Sonoff Zigbee Mini Switch | In Wall and No Flashing ZHA

[@moneypitvan6378]

Any idea when this will be available?

[@digiblurDIY]

Says Note: SONOFF ZBMINI will be restocked about Nov 25, you can order now but the delivery is delayed to about Nov 26.

[@moneypitvan6378]

@@digiblurDIY Ok, that's manageable. Thanks.

[@TheHellis]

5:35 Yes! Thank you! Most of the time I watch on my four year old phone, and that is tiny when someone shows their whole screen. Thank you so much for that!!!

[@PaulineMiddelink]

Can it do groups? Both input and output? Can the switch be bound to a different device so I can control different lights directly from the switch?

[@jarig]

Just recently connected it to openhab without any soldering. So if you want zigbee control of existing switches, take it. The only thing range is only ~10m, maybe it's just my case as zbmini is inside of socket behind aluminium cover of the socket.

[@digiblurDIY]

That sounds pretty small in range. But it could be many other factors as you suggest. Grounded metal objects don't play well with RF especially not 2.4ghz. You might need to put another mains powered device in between for a healthier mesh.

[@Angelus1981]

Hi. I use a Tasmota flashed Sonoff Zigbee Switch. I connected a ZBMINI to it and as well a sonoff motion sensor. The issue is now that the motion sensor is not longer sending his battery state and occupancy value via the ZBMINI. I only get the "ZoneStatusChange" "EndPoint" and "LinkQuality". I thought 230V components will route every information to the Zigbee gateway. Any advice on that? Thanks in advance.

[@digiblurDIY]

Using what coordinator/software?

[@Angelus1981]

@@digiblurDIY hi and thanks for your reply. In the meanwhile I could solve the issue by repairing the devide / doing factory reset. I checked the information directly in the Tasmota console of the Sonoff Zigbee Bridge. Not sure why this happened but as said after repairing it worked. The repaired sensor changed its device ID but interestingly kept his friendly name. Quite strange

[@colinmccormick1750]

Love that these can be added so easly in HA with ZHA. I have a couple wifi minis around the house. In the eWeLink app, I can change things like the switch behavior (edge mode, follow, etc) and the power recovery state (power on, off, last state). Is there any way to change these when you add it directly to HA with ZHA?

[@digiblurDIY]

According to iTead switch behavior changes aren't supported.

[@souk-tv]

I like Sonoff products, they work great with Google Home, I just wish they were rated for 13 amp for the mains stuff (UK).

[@steffenfrost995]

Ah... I just bought a ZBMin with great anticipation. Will it not work in UK? What is alternative?

[@felixgarcia7878]

Great explanation. I was just dealing with exactly this now, but I was waiting to see how to act the switch from HA. That’s where I am blocked now…

[@digiblurDIY]

It shouid work the same as with any relay.

[@BlaLuk]

Great vid- random question, how do you get integrations on your sidebar in Hassio? Love the channel

[@digiblurDIY]

Using the panel frame I think is what it is called. It was some code I got from someone else then modified to get the integrations of each in there. I'd post it here but the formatting would chew it up. Hit me up on discord or email me at the channel name on the gmail domain.

[@seth2389]

Not a switch...the Button 😃 He he! Good stuff, as always!

[@digiblurDIY]

Thanks! 👍

[@OscarHanzely]

One note that I found out so far, the ZBMINI does act as a router but is incompatible with Aqara end network devices. Meaning my in-wall switches were dropping Aqara sensor after couple of hours of working fine.

[@digiblurDIY]

That would be due to Aqara not following the Zigbee spec. See here community.hubitat.com/t/xiaomi-aqara-devices-pairing-keeping-them-connected/623

[@Paw_Low]

I don’t see Sonoff routers under the section of “Zigbee repeaters reported NOT to work with Xiaomi devices” on that post. Let’s hope the problem is the battery replacement or something else because the solution “replace all your incompatible routers” is very expensive.

[@simoneatough6391]

Sonoff, we need a smart plug with power monitoring please! There are so few ZigBee options

[@seanyao4784]

Great videos. I got 4 Sonoff Mini ZB. Two of them works great with ZHA. The other 2 can only be controlled in HA, with the external switches not working. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[@Alex-os5co]

Thanks :)) When you close a switch (I.e turn it on) doesn't the full 230V go through the circuit to power the light? So when it states weak current allowed for safety, does that mean it's just the current from the light and not from main current? Do I understand that correctly haha?

[@digiblurDIY]

Mains AC goes through for the light as it is a simple relay. But the switch pins are low voltage.

[@kyriakoskarpontinis6207]

Hello and thanks for the video! May I adk you two things? My first question is whether I can connect miniZB to smartthings out of the box and the second one if it is possible to connect miniZB to a double switch and how? Thanks and best regards, Kyriakos

[@digiblurDIY]

Yes. They state it works with Smartthings. You can only connect it to one switch.

[@MeauxTarabein]

is there anyway to connect it to a momentary switch ? or is there any hack to do it ?

[@digiblurDIY]

Not that I know of. You would have to use a momentary latching switch.

[@maximilianpriebe]

Great video. My switch is also connected via zha to my home assistant with a sonoff 3.0 usb dongle with flashed firmware. Do you know how to change the switch type/behavior of the physical switch attached to the zbmini? I could do it over the ewelink app but i dont know how to acess the switch itself because there is no connection from the app to the zbmini.

[@digiblurDIY]

Not sure myself on it as they have said it didn't have this feature. If it is doable in the Ewelink someone might be able to sniff the command.

[@saninnsalas]

Can I ask **exactly** which kind of cables are you using between the light switch and the MiniZb? (to the grey right connectors). Thanks!

[@digiblurDIY]

it is low voltage and testing on the desk so I just used some dupont jumpers I had. Not recommended for perm installs.

[@saninnsalas]

@@digiblurDIY understood! I am just not sure which voltage does it uses.

[@lcarter194]

The question ? Can I use Sonoff Zigbee devices on Alexa four that has a Sonoff Zigbee bridge?

[@bertr0nic]

Hi, I frequently lost connexion with the ZB Mini using Philips Hue bridge and Niko FoH .. Is it possible to change the ZB Mini channel ? I alreday try to use another zigbee channel on the bridge.

[@digiblurDIY]

You would need to change your zigbee coordinator channel

[@FelixTheCatCore]

Hi, I have a question, when I open my lightswitch wall socket I see only 2 wires (this is for one lightbulb in my hallway) do I need to connect this ZBmini in Neutral IN and Live IN and 2 additional wires from S1 and S2 to lightswitch like in your video? Is this gonna work? Thanks alot in advance.

[@digiblurDIY]

The s1 and S2 wires go to the switch to see the state of things change

[@FelixTheCatCore]

@@digiblurDIY I know that. The problem is that i connected the device but when i turn it on, the light bulb flickers. Same happening for both physical and digital switch.

[@scerio]

I know it says it does not support "momentary rocker switch", but is that really true? was planning to put this inside my apartment door bell switch and capture the event when someone rigs...

[@digiblurDIY]

It would capture that on off then.

[@JaydenLitolff]

How does the switching behaviour work when changing it from home assistant? Say If I turn the light off from home assistant while the wall switch is in the on position what happens when I turn the wall switch off? Does it toggle on each state change of the switch or do I have to go off then back on in my situation. Would love to know as I don't have fixtures I can put smart bulbs in and zigbee in wall switches are rare, I was considering buying some of the large zb1 from sonoff and making them fit somehow

[@oldcrazyeye6482]

If you toggle it off via HA while the physical switch is on. On becomes off and off becomes on and vice versa if you toggle it on while the physical switch is off.

[@oldcrazyeye6482]

Question for you. I'm trying to use zb mini as a switch with no direct load. I have it wired with line in and neutral in. zha discovered it but now when I turn it on via HA the toggle goes to on and a second later goes to off. The red light on the device changes when I physically toggle the switch but the green light still flashes constantly. Any ideas?

[@oldcrazyeye6482]

OK figured it out. I had to remove it from ZHA then find it again. Worked as desired...almost, until I put it back in the wall. Yea cramming that in a two gang box stuffed with 12awg kept hard pressing the pairing /reset button causing it to drop connection. Third time was a charm. I'm now using it to control Hyperion from a toggle switch in my living room

[@digiblurDIY]

Glad you were able to get it going!

[@michaelroxin348]

How good is sonoff zigbee bridge? I see that there are som other once (conbee II, CC2652R etc) I run Ikea, Philips Aqara Bridges today but thinking of getting rid with them. But I want a stable solution. I run home assistant and want to run ZHA. Thanks.

[@digiblurDIY]

I've only run this bridge as others I had were USB sticks I had to keep attached to my HA server.

[@stevephipps9305]

ITEAD website in ordering states ( Seller is responsible for making a safe delivery of goods to a named destination, paying all transportation expenses and assuming all risks during transportation; once the goods arrive at the agreed-upon location, the buyer becomes responsible for paying import duties as well as further transport costs.) what have these cost been I can't find any info. Thanks

[@digiblurDIY]

You would need to check your country laws and such.

[@jefflambert4243]

I’d like to see more on integrating using MQTT.

[@digiblurDIY]

I plan to cover some of this in a NodeRed video.

[@markszymura]

Great stuff, ordered thanks, also had the Reolink 5mp poe cam in my basket from yr last video on this and Amazon are applying 25% vouchers on top , so £37 in uk

[@digiblurDIY]

Not sure if you saw it, but speaking of Reolink, they released a bunch of new firmware updates for cameras, removing the Flash requirement! WOOT!

[@JesseG2573]

another great presentation

[@digiblurDIY]

Glad you think so!

[@christopherozale4937]

Hi, any idea on what to do if I want to use a pushbutton instead of classic switch ? Is there a way to modify the behaviour of ZBMINI by sending some magic commands ?

[@digiblurDIY]

It doesn't show supported - itead.cc/product/sonoff-zbmini-zigbee-smart-switch/

[@nikolayvvasilev]

Does anyone hear a subtle high pitched noise on their ZBMini when it is powered on? I hear such a noise on mine but am not sure if it is supposed to do that...

[@kameraadcoenraad]

Great video! Do you have plans to dive into zigbee2mqtt?

[@digiblurDIY]

Once they support the Sonoff Zigbee Bridge I definitely will. Removing the dependency on HA is always a plus.

[@kameraadcoenraad]

@@digiblurDIY the zbmini itself is already supported: github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/4752. Is there an advantage to keeping the bridge?

[@digiblurDIY]

For my setup, yes. It allows me to put it in the middle of home for better signal to my battery powered sensors, it's not tied to my server on one side of the house, and I don't have to deal with serial port/USB port passthrough mess to a container.

[@WizardsWoW]

Can this thing be added straight to the eWeLink app via the quick pairing or do I need to have a Zigbee bridge also for it to work? Mine zb mini is blinking green but I can not add it via quick pairing. I do not have a zigbee bridge or anything else still. I am new to this, am I doing it wrong? Do I need to buy a zigbee bridge to be able to add it to the app?

[@digiblurDIY]

If you have a zigbee device then you need a zigbee Bridge to control it.

[@WizardsWoW]

@@digiblurDIY ok, so my thinking was all wrong, I thought since it was wifi, it does not need a bridge to add to app. Thanks

[@ubeaut]

Finally got one of these. One question is if it is in the wall how can I get it into pairing mode without having to pull all the electrics back out to press the button? Thanks

[@digiblurDIY]

Pair it before the install or you close up the wall.

[@ubeaut]

@@digiblurDIY yes I would pair it before putting it in the wall but sometimes ZigBee devices just stop working and your have to pair them again. That will be an issue if it's in the wall.

[@digiblurDIY]

What are you using? ZHA?

[@ubeaut]

@@digiblurDIY zigbee2mqtt

[@digiblurDIY]

Weird. I haven't seen devices just falling off. You using a CC2652 based coordinator?

[@tinachan9333]

Thanks for sharing. Good job.

[@digiblurDIY]

Thanks for watching!

[@rudyhar]

Zbmini zigbee can be pair on aqara m2 hub? Thx.

[@digiblurDIY]

That I do not know. I might have one next week to try out.

[@rudyhar]

@@digiblurDIY Thx bro, please let me know if it works. Or have to buy zb bridge hub.

[@markvreeken]

It is best practice to have the relay, breaker and wiring rated at a load greater than actually required . 16 amp is a good size breaker for a 10 amp circuit as generally used in lighting applications . That 16 amp relay is correctly sized

[@digiblurDIY]

Correct. The whole weakest link is supposed to be the breaker. Luckily we are in the LED world but you never know what people could connect if you aren't around in some situations. You could use a 10a inline fuse if needed.

[@MrSquirrelpancake]

Great video as usual! Can of offer some advice on how the MQTT can communicate with HA from the Sonoff Zigbee bridge? It appears to use the same message, just with the device name in in the payload, rather than a device specific message. This makes it difficult to read in HA without doing some complex scripting!

[@digiblurDIY]

You could do some rules like I did on the RF bridge, but I'd probably do the JSON breakdowns via NodeRed to make it easier.

[@ivlis32]

Cool video as always. The Tasmota ZBBridge is pain when it comes to HA integration. For this one is probably ok, bc it's just a single channel switch.

[@charlescc1000]

Does anyone have recommendation for a HA compatible light-switch that is designed for a room without any overhead lighting? The ideal light switch would be stick-on to wall (or small nails/screws), battery operated, and HA compatible with a few buttons on it instead of just a single toggle. I assume a product like this would not be 100% flush in wall and I am okay with that as I do not want a permanent install product. This is ideal for apartment renters who want to stick on a light switch for their 1 year lease and plan to remove it when they leave. Thanks!

[@MrBlackpanther87]

Can't get it to work as a router in the Z2Tasmota mode for whatever reason. In ZHA mode it does work as a router but range is very poor. I tried installing this plug in the same place i put my Bridge previously hoping that it would build that mesh network from my Motion sensor but it doesn't seem to work. And the sensor is not very far either. should be about 5 mtrs away but no line of sight. Looking for a router device with better range or will just have to buy another bridge.

[@digiblurDIY]

I use it in z2m as a router. I haven't tried z2t with it though.

[@MrBlackpanther87]

Should I be able to add an external antenna to the zbmini to improve mesh range. For some reason it is able to talk to the coordinator well but is having trouble serving as a router for end devices that are 6-7 meters away outside of line of sight.

[@andrewm1967]

so this will pair with home assistant without that hub or do you need the hub ? I am a little confused ?

[@digiblurDIY]

It is Zigbee, you would need one of the many Zigbee radio solutions that Home Assistant supports.

[@andrewm1967]

@@digiblurDIY thanks still learning about all this . was going to do it all with arduino mini and bluetooth but was just getting too much to figure out all the coding and wiring and what not.

[@dmitryterentiev918]

Opposite. Hope for the next guide video to flush and add features to this relay.

[@WizardsWoW]

Anybody knows if this acts as router to extend network in ZHA addon in home assistant?

[@digiblurDIY]

Yes this is a mains powered device and acts as a router in any zigbee network.

[@WizardsWoW]

@@digiblurDIY great 👌 thank you for the information 🙏

[@electroinstal6167]

Its necesary to put a bridge?

[@digiblurDIY]

No, you can use a USB coordinator.

[@cheyou]

Does they have also version for 2 buttons switch?

[@digiblurDIY]

There's only one relay and one button input on this, you'd need to add two for 2 switches.

[@JohnSmith-yg7og]

Does it works with apple home kit ?

[@digiblurDIY]

Depends on the hub you connect it to.

[@ronm6585]

Thanks Travis.

[@bbubarker]

Do I need to flash Tasmota to the mini switch

[@digiblurDIY]

You don't need to as it is Zigbee already and works great.

[@bbubarker]

Does Tasmota Sonoff zigbee work with Alexa?

[@digiblurDIY]

According to their page Compatible with SONOFF ZBBridge, Amazon Hub, Samsung SmartThings Hub and Philips Hue Hub

[@bbubarker]

@@digiblurDIY thanks

[@dacito4500]

Does anyone know the standby power consumption of this device? As far as I know WIFI devices like this have a much higher standby power consumption so I would like to switch to Zigbee devices.

[@digiblurDIY]

I can check. I have checked an ESP device before and it was around 0.3w.

[@johnraahauge4552]

Too bad the wifi version is not that great because its super cheap right now. Like $2 on Ali.

[@digiblurDIY]

They missed a big opportunity of many projects with the mini wifi version.

[@TheHellis]

0:16 Psst... It's Itead, not sonoff. Sonoff is the product ;-)

[@TheHellis]

Flipping autocorrect!!! 😤 I was supposed to say "Itead" not "it was".

[@digiblurDIY]

Their Sonoff line will always be Sonoff to me. Sonoff Basic made it stick.

[@TheHellis]

@@digiblurDIY to some degree I believe saying Sonoff is better for Itead than saying Itead since Sonoff is so much more known

[@digiblurDIY]

Indeed. And when I have been correct on names. 😎

[@russelldye5506]

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