Sonos Ace HONEST Review and Comparison to AirPods Max!

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@Natak222
@Natak222 3 ай бұрын
Man, appreciate you just saying which you prefer straight off the bat. Im'a watch the full video anyway to see how you got to that conclusion but really appreciate that
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
You’re welcome and thank you for watching! 👊
@WeDontWantYourWar
@WeDontWantYourWar 3 ай бұрын
100% - its a review, not a mystery novel - just saves us from flying to the end of the video first, and then going back. Love it.
@BerryStraw15
@BerryStraw15 3 ай бұрын
Just to add that the AirPods Max have 4 years old technology… Mine work as good as day 1 and I love them.
@kiosh
@kiosh 3 ай бұрын
"be honest"
@strangebaaza
@strangebaaza 3 ай бұрын
Yeah but the damn things hurt my head so bad that I returned them lol. I love my Xm5s. Easily the best pair but I'm very curious about the ace
@Josh-Tech-Reviews
@Josh-Tech-Reviews 3 ай бұрын
What's the quality?
@BerryStraw15
@BerryStraw15 3 ай бұрын
@@Josh-Tech-Reviews the audio quality is superb. High and mids are great, bass is amazing. I wear them 4-5 hours every single day, the battery life is also great.
@jexxy1806
@jexxy1806 12 күн бұрын
Apple Fan boys can't help themselves.
@Johnnyhaag79
@Johnnyhaag79 3 ай бұрын
I'll just wait for the airpods max 2..... been waiting awhile already anyways..
@KingKikikoi
@KingKikikoi 3 ай бұрын
Yeah if you really like AirPod design then wait for it. According to the leaks don’t expect much or any upgrades at all other than usbc more Colors and little price decrease.
@Johnnyhaag79
@Johnnyhaag79 3 ай бұрын
@@KingKikikoi it should have usbc, u2 chip, precision finding find my, Bluetooth 5.3, new colors, price cut, better battery life, better case!, and all the features the AirPods Pro have… It’s a good update, not design update, but a serious upgrade. The first ones just weren’t worth the price. The next one will be.
@AndrewC89
@AndrewC89 3 ай бұрын
@@Johnnyhaag79 All I want is a power button.
@robertgarvansnyder4665
@robertgarvansnyder4665 3 ай бұрын
@@KingKikikoi There've also been rumors of wireless lossless audio, which would make sense given the integration of lossless into Apple Music.
@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568
@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568 3 ай бұрын
I have the AirPods Max, the heavy clamps make these headphones so uncomfortable. I literally get headaches and sore ears. I have also wanted something as an alternative. Don’t get me wrong here, the AirPods Max is awesome, but the fit sucks. They also keep running out of battery and that case is just unacceptable for a product at this price.
@lucafrancis5572
@lucafrancis5572 3 ай бұрын
I won’t lie, if you have an Apple phone it changes everything. The ease of use is much better with the AirPods Max and the transparency mode is far far better along with better noise cancelling. I personally prefer the feel of the AirPods Max but each to their own
@j.p9155
@j.p9155 23 күн бұрын
Hmm… Besides the AirPods Max, what other headphones have you used before?
@cdavidhord
@cdavidhord Ай бұрын
If you are flying, you can connect your Sonos to the display in front of you with the included usb c to 3.5 mm connector and enjoy a long flight with their entertainment. I don't think the Apple can do this and there would be no other way to connect it to the inflight TV system.
@user-dh6kg3kg7f
@user-dh6kg3kg7f 3 ай бұрын
The Sonos Ace seems like a good product but it's still being compared with older headphones. We'll have to wait and see how they stack up with upcoming ones. Also, products evolve these days with new software updates and Sonos Ace seems like it could get some pretty decent ones. WIth that said there is a reason why the Sonos Ace is high in my list versus the upcoming Airpods Max 2. Compatibility. The Airpods Max are great....when they are connected to other Apple products. And we all know the Airpods Max 2 will be great as long as they are connected to other Apple products. Even if many of us here have Apple products, we also have decent number of non-Apple products. We may have an iPhone but decided to get a Samsung Galaxy Tab. Perhaps we have a Mac but also an office PC laptop. We might have a PS5 or Xbox and set-top box from our TV provider that runs on some other random system. Or a Google TV connected to a bedroom tv. As cool as the quality-of-life features in the Airpods Max are, it sucks that when I connect to an Android device, spatial audio and headtracking are gone. Watch a movie on an Android tablet while on holidays? No Spatial audio. Count the number of devices you have and see how many you can't fully take advantage because Apple doesn't do much to support other products. I like Sonos solution because it removes the barrier. Whatever is connected to the Arc gets the same spatial audio + headtracking treatment. Be it iOS or Android they take advantage of all the features. I can even use a BT 5.4 usb dongle lke the FMA120 connected to my iPad or PC/Mac and get Aptx Lossless. Apple will never release a USB dongle to support their audio technology in a 3rd party product. And their products work well with Apple as well. They have Airplay 2. Sonos has apps for most systems. iOS, Google, Windows , Mac.
@FPSWizard
@FPSWizard 3 ай бұрын
Torn here. I have Apple TV’s on every TV with some form of Sonos sound bar lol. Decisions decisions. Been holding out for the Max 2’s. Just no telling how long. Great review!
@mbs7994
@mbs7994 3 ай бұрын
What about comparing them to Bose Quietcomfort ultra headphones?
@JefeMaestro-qd6sb
@JefeMaestro-qd6sb 3 ай бұрын
Bosé is for casuals
@cstrx11
@cstrx11 3 ай бұрын
Sorry. But bose is baaaad compared to these. Just tried in media markt.
@holdenforlife2011
@holdenforlife2011 Ай бұрын
Bose is average compared to these
@MrDexterSr
@MrDexterSr 3 ай бұрын
As someone who is invested in both ecosystems, I’m torn. I will wait to see the next iteration of AirPods Max before making a decision 👍🏾.
@TacoXL
@TacoXL 3 ай бұрын
AirPods use a lightning port still. That makes them a no for me.
@blakephotographytexas
@blakephotographytexas 3 ай бұрын
There is zero reason to buy the AirPods Max right now unless they come down in price. They were released four years ago and are still the same price they were the day they released. Supposedly they are releasing AirPods Max 2 later this year, so if you are wanting the Apple ecosystem, just wait.
@stevenstutz2482
@stevenstutz2482 3 ай бұрын
Hello Dan, thank you for another wonderful video, I always enjoy your balanced and realistic perspective on Apple’s products. I appreciate that you do not pressure your viewers/listeners (MacRumors Show) to purchase every new iteration of products Apple releases. As far as Headphones go I definitely would like to give the Sonos Ace a listen but, the fact that you need to have other Sonos gear is a dealbreaker for me since I do not have a Sonos Soundbar. There are three reasons for that: 1. None of Sonos’s current Soundbars have an HDMI Input, this means that they do not support Dolby Vision nor Dolby Atmos pass-through. Although my TV does support Dolby Vision, it does not support Dolby Atmos pass-through since the Generation M-Series TV that I purchased does not have a compatible HDMI connection. This means that I cannot plug my Apple TV 4K through a Sonos Arc where I could get Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos at the same time. Maybe Sonos will update the Arc to have an HDMI Input but at the moment, Sonos is not an option for me. 2. I know that most manufacturers have all switched to having metal grills on their Soundbars but to me, metal grills give any speaker a more shrill, artificial and tinny sound which I personally do not particularly care for. The last Soundbar Samsung made that had a fabric grill/cover, the HW-Q950A sounded absolutely amazing! But when Samsung switched to having a metal grill with the HW-Q960 ”?” things went down hill. The Samsung HW-Q990C last year finally improved upon that to some extent and hopefully this year’s Samsung HW-Q990D will improve on that even further. The Samsung Soundbars do in fact support Dolby Vision + Dolby Atmos pass-through since they have HDMI Inputs. The current iteration of the Sonos Arc sounds shrill, tinny and artificial to me and I don’t really care for it. Again, that’s just my personal feeling and I’m not trying to hate on Sonos or on anyone who has a Sonos Arc and absolutely loves it. 3. I already own AirPods Max and an Apple TV which means not only do can I enjoy Spatial/Dolby Atmos Audio with supported content when I use my AirPods Max, but I also enjoy Dolby Vision on my TV. The entry price to get the Sonos Ace would be cheaper for the headphones, but the overall cost would be way more expensive since I’d have to get a Sonos Soundbar to get all of the benefits from Sonos’s ecosystem. The entry price as you mentioned to get into Apple’s ecosystem is a $129 Apple TV, and a pair of AirPods Max which you can get for $449 brand new very often, and sometimes cheaper than that if you get a pair from Best Buy in Open-Box Excellent Condition. I will say this, the Sonos Five, the Sonos Move (Generations 1 & 2), are all very good sounding speakers! The Era 300’s, which do support Dolby Atmos, and the Era 100’s, which do not support Dolby Atmos, sound pretty good as well. Not as good as the Sonos Five or Move speakers but good nonetheless. If someone wants a Soundbar system because that’s all they have room for or they prefer the esthetics of having a streamlined sound system, I would definitely recommend giving the Samsung HW-Q990D a listen. Best Buy currently has it for $1,699.99 on sale and with it you get two Atmos capable surround speakers, the soundbar, and a subwoofer. To get the same kind of setup with Sonos you’re looking at having to spend $2,076 on sale which is $376 more. Thanks again for your video and I hope this comment is helpful to you and your viewers. 😊
@michaelrenfro8656
@michaelrenfro8656 Ай бұрын
Great and concise comparison video of probably 2 best headphones on the market. I am a Sonos user with about 9 speakers and an Arc in my house. But I am also an Apple user with 3 Apple computers and 3 Apple TV boxes. So, I decided to pop for the AirPods Max on Prime Day at $394 to work with my broad Apple ecosystem including iPad and Phones. I may still buy the Sonos Ace as I love their products and have an Arc but am disappointed that they did not choose to define the headphones as a separate speaker to be used within the ecosystem. It can only be used with the Arc (which I have) and then everything else is bluetooth. Doesn't make sense for a wifi based system. Depending on my experience with the Max, I may not even buy the Ace, but we'll see and I'll try to update my post with my decision in the near future.
@Ezeani
@Ezeani 3 ай бұрын
Insane how a 2024 device is still neck to neck with one that was released in 2020
@Josh-Tech-Reviews
@Josh-Tech-Reviews 3 ай бұрын
Yeah bro, some devices are undefeated!
@ianvanessen9356
@ianvanessen9356 3 ай бұрын
AirPods pale in comparison to ace for sound quality. There is no competition.
@slurples149
@slurples149 2 ай бұрын
it only compares because the price of the product is significantly higher than it's local competitors and also my sony xm4s still hold up well to this day
@jonshearer88
@jonshearer88 3 ай бұрын
How does the Sonos Ace work with Dolby Atmos from iOS Apple Music app?
@jackstephan1183
@jackstephan1183 3 ай бұрын
Very good review. What is the transparency feature you mentioned?
@SwatBeatsOfficial
@SwatBeatsOfficial 3 ай бұрын
The plastic build and bulky case make the Sonos a no go for me. I’m heavily invested in the Sonos ecosystem, but these headphones don’t seem travel friendly. I also prefer the ear-cup fabric and general design on the AirPods Max.
@thebrycerodgers
@thebrycerodgers 3 ай бұрын
This may be obvious - can I use my Sonos Ace with an Apple TV and still get Atmos, Spatial, and head tracking? Or can I only get those features with an Arc?
@Josh-Tech-Reviews
@Josh-Tech-Reviews 3 ай бұрын
Good question.
@MiguelAngelLopezP
@MiguelAngelLopezP 3 ай бұрын
I’m wondering the same thing, they should not work with head tracking but they should work with atmos
@erpatt
@erpatt 3 ай бұрын
This is my main question as well. He does mention that Atmos works when connected to an iPhone or iPad, so I would hope it would work with an Apple TV.
@davidb9531
@davidb9531 3 ай бұрын
Yes you can
@kuemagecollector
@kuemagecollector 27 күн бұрын
Ill try this later.
@KerryBuchanan
@KerryBuchanan 2 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for giving your ultimate decision right at the start, but I'm still watching the whole things because I want to here your thoughts
@victorcontreras5703
@victorcontreras5703 3 ай бұрын
Which one gets louder???
@TAELSDOLL
@TAELSDOLL 3 ай бұрын
get wired headphones and a high power bluetooth dac bro... trust me
@Josh-Tech-Reviews
@Josh-Tech-Reviews 3 ай бұрын
HAHAHA probably the BEST question here.
@Josh-Tech-Reviews
@Josh-Tech-Reviews 3 ай бұрын
@@TAELSDOLL Thanks for the heads up!
@ChipDizard
@ChipDizard 3 ай бұрын
Just got Sonos Ace and I am glad with my purchase.
@Drothen-
@Drothen- 2 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for your review
@jtjdt
@jtjdt 3 ай бұрын
8:03 what makes you think a refresh is coming for AirPods Max? I think they're going the way of the iPod-Hi-Fi and this will be the last pair we see imo.
@yerobisleal204
@yerobisleal204 3 ай бұрын
i have both and the airpods max still sound a lot better by a long shot in my opinion, but the sonos are a lot more comfortable.
@drewksidetour
@drewksidetour 3 ай бұрын
Can you connect the ace to Apple TV?
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
Im guessing yes via Bluetooth but it’s a much better integration with a soundbar. I’m not sure but my guess would be no Dolby atmos and Spatial Audio this way
@SALisRad
@SALisRad 3 ай бұрын
@@macrumors You haven’t tried?
@Josh-Tech-Reviews
@Josh-Tech-Reviews 3 ай бұрын
@@macrumors $450 is steep for a guess my friend! Do you have any experience?
@rajendrabiswas
@rajendrabiswas 3 ай бұрын
after my AirPods max failed after a year use..I hope apple is held accountable for this..I might get a sonos or a AirPods max 2..but can sonos have dolby atmos without the soundbar ..
@kennethmacdonald404
@kennethmacdonald404 3 ай бұрын
How is the bluetooth multiport? If I connect Sonos Ace to both IPhone and Macbook Pro will it automatically switch audio based on which is playing like Airpods?
@AaAaSRB
@AaAaSRB Ай бұрын
It works surprisingly well. You will need to pause audio on one device and it will automatically switch to other device
@kamchinwong
@kamchinwong 3 ай бұрын
White or black color better?
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
White
@TechSergey
@TechSergey 3 ай бұрын
Great video, still waiting for that AirPods Max 2 announcement from Apple this fall
@Josh-Tech-Reviews
@Josh-Tech-Reviews 3 ай бұрын
Great intro dude, nice and smooth! Thanks for showing me a great way to introduce a product! Do you edit ur own videos?
@samirshah5411
@samirshah5411 3 ай бұрын
Curious to see when the sony wh-1000xm6 come out & how they compare.
@user-kg7qy9rz4u
@user-kg7qy9rz4u Ай бұрын
Love the breakdown. I will be buying a Sonos Ace due to my whole house is Sonos and I will be waiting for the AirPod Max 2 to come out soon.
@sajizzle2680
@sajizzle2680 3 ай бұрын
I’ve worn the AirPods Max for like 6-8 hours a day for three and a half years and never felt uncomfortable except for on hot days, and the battery life on AirPods Max or lack of a power button have literally never been a problem. Sonos Ace look cheap as hell for the price point.
@freecornamenta23
@freecornamenta23 3 ай бұрын
looking to buy a new option because I had a horrible experience with the airpods max, they only lasted 1 year and a month and had to get them replaced 3 times in that timeframe and every single time it was because of the same issue, the connectivity connector would no longer pair with the phone or ipad and it would randomly happen, they would work in the morning and 2 hours later they would just be a dead pair of metal , it happened again last week and warranty no longer covers it and they want me to pay 837 dollars to get them fixed, it's ridiculous honestly, it's supposed to be a premium headset but personally it's a badly made product if it only lasted 1 year with regular usage
@shafqatullah5032
@shafqatullah5032 3 ай бұрын
I have the same experience. The first one had failed, then repair failed, now on third one. Same issue as you’re referring to - random connectivity issues and becoming inactive even though there’s full charge.
@freecornamenta23
@freecornamenta23 3 ай бұрын
@@shafqatullah5032 yep same issue on my end, and now out of warranty they want me to pay twice what the headphones cost to replace that part, it’s angering really
@flatsixrules
@flatsixrules 3 ай бұрын
Deep in both ecosystems. Going with Sonos Ace this time. Sonos doesn't disappoint and are more committed to home audio innovation. The Max still don't don't come in USB C and my Apple TVs are basically the same for years despite TVOS updates.
@TAELSDOLL
@TAELSDOLL 3 ай бұрын
how sore is your throat
@toldenfr
@toldenfr 2 ай бұрын
how long do you wear it? to feel if it is a good confort headphone, you should wear it 8h, like someone working with it in a remote work. I have a Bose quiet confort QC35 II since it's introduction on the market, ans as of today none, even from Bose, none is as good as the QC35-II. Hope this one will do.
@tumbleweed1976
@tumbleweed1976 3 ай бұрын
Bose Ultra Comfort for me. Costco sale $200 is great value.
@Caesar.X
@Caesar.X 3 ай бұрын
til mac rumors has a yt channel and its really good, and thank you for being viewer friendly and answering the question in the beginning, still watched the whole video but im just saying
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!!
@attilab.2818
@attilab.2818 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand...why woukd this be more seamless and convinient than connecting my headphones directly with my tv via bluetooth? After the initial pairing process, it only takes 1 and a half clicks to switch the audio with my Bose QuiteComfort Ultra or Sennheiser Momemtum 4. So whats the big deal? Or is the audio that switched from the Arc soundbar a better quality audio? I honestly don't get it.
@solerider12
@solerider12 3 ай бұрын
Lightening port is a show stopper for me and makes for an easy decision. Life will be better when I never have to use another lightning cable again, and I am a huge apple fan.
@AndrewC89
@AndrewC89 3 ай бұрын
Bold of you to assume my cash was hard-earned.
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@robertgarvansnyder4665
@robertgarvansnyder4665 3 ай бұрын
One other factor to consider: since the AirPods Max are like 4 years old, you can definitely find pairs secondhand for as low as $250. Couple questions: - How is the mic quality for calls on the Sonos? Love it on the AirPods Max. - What is device connectivity like? Is it standard bluetooth? As someone deep into the Apple ecosystem, the Max seems tough to beat in this regard. I do own a Sonos Arc already, but no Apple TV, so oddly the one device that my AirPods don't smoothly work with is my TV. Generally, my only two strikes against the Max are 1) the connectivity issues, which forced me to do a hard reset every few days until I finally solved the issue (need to use a SIM key to remove the headband from the cups, and then clean the band contact points with isopropyl alcohol. has worked flawlessly since I did this), and 2) the clamping discomfort. It's not a dealbreaker, but it's not the best.
@davidb9531
@davidb9531 3 ай бұрын
So many fakes on eBay wouldn’t recommend buying used unfortunately
@robertgarvansnyder4665
@robertgarvansnyder4665 3 ай бұрын
@@davidb9531 guess I lucked out. I got mine used off Amazon, could always return if it turns out to be a fake.
@ashwinrajani
@ashwinrajani 3 ай бұрын
If you care about lossless audio: Sonos says the Ace can be connected to an iPhone with a USB-C to USB-C cable, but the AirPods Max can’t be connected to an iPhone with a Lightning to USB-C cable.
@pac7025
@pac7025 3 ай бұрын
I must say that if the AirPod Max, a 4 year old device, is still being compared to newly released products, I can't wait to see what Apple releases with version two with all the latest chips and advancements.
@Rob_1010
@Rob_1010 3 ай бұрын
With the AirPods Max, can you listen to regular TV with an Apple TV box connected, or is it just media you’re playing through the Apple TV box?
@sundeeprao7869
@sundeeprao7869 3 ай бұрын
With the Appple TV box connected, you can listen any thing you play from Apple TV apps.
@PaulFritzsche
@PaulFritzsche Ай бұрын
when walking outside, how are these with wind noise? airpods max is terrible and you can hear the wind alot! BOSE QC35-II is almost dead quiet Also, in the office environment, when in a call, and you have people around you talking, will this be cancelled out? Questions I have asked so many other reviewers and never gotten a answer... Will you be able to answer??
@moshnroll507
@moshnroll507 3 ай бұрын
Comparing these to almost 3yr old headphones is crazy…that’s very telling
@Jeannemarre
@Jeannemarre 3 ай бұрын
Well, if you can hold on, perhaps wait until they announce the revised AirPods Max by end of year (It has to be updated because of lightning connectir)
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
Rumors suggest nothing crazy to the update though.
@Jeannemarre
@Jeannemarre 3 ай бұрын
@@macrumors indeed that’s a fair point, although an upgraded chip with perhaps a better noise cancellation and battery management with Bluetooth 5.3 could be enough to hold for many people including me.
@Petrivyaroslav
@Petrivyaroslav 3 ай бұрын
You can connect both to your somewhere modern tv with just a build-in Bluetooth connectivity. Also connecting APM with Samsung tv 2022 has no issues whatsoever in a call of duty (multiplayer or warzone)
@Kivancli79
@Kivancli79 2 ай бұрын
How is the sound quality when connecting the headphone by bluetooth to your tv ... any latency or lag compared to Wifi 🤔
@Petrivyaroslav
@Petrivyaroslav 2 ай бұрын
@@Kivancli79 absolutely fine, no problems whatsoever. The sound is surround as well
@2A4ever
@2A4ever 3 ай бұрын
For being known as the "Apple guy" Dan did a really good job here assessing both products objectively and fairly.
@Max_Holton
@Max_Holton 3 ай бұрын
In Australia the Sonos Ace are cheaper then the AirPods Max, but I hate the idea of having an app
@AttilaPatakiJr
@AttilaPatakiJr 3 ай бұрын
What do you think about the new app update?
@CochiTravels
@CochiTravels 3 ай бұрын
they removed the sleep timer which was a truly amazing feature
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
I’ll be quite honest with you, most of my app use was to set up the products in my house. Once everything was set up I rarely ever used it. If I ever play music on my system it’s mostly through airplay.
@cadenchurchill4296
@cadenchurchill4296 3 ай бұрын
I wish my Sony XM5s had magnetic ear cups. I replaced the original ones with Wicked Cushions as I wasn't a huge fan of the originals and the clips weren't fun to deal with.
@KerryBuchanan
@KerryBuchanan 2 ай бұрын
They Airpods Max are sexy, but I'm so deep in the Sonos ecosystem that it'd be hard to pass on the Ace
@YetAYou
@YetAYou 3 ай бұрын
Listening to this in my new Ace in white. Just received, so far interesting thoughts.
@chrisstroesser6563
@chrisstroesser6563 2 ай бұрын
Holy Shit! Sonos put a power button on their headphones?!?! Now they just gotta do the same for all their other products!
@Aslam_Aliyu
@Aslam_Aliyu 3 ай бұрын
Honestly I’d say get a best buy membership buy the AirPod max and return it after 60 days and then buy the next gen AirPod max
@Mr_Mitchelll
@Mr_Mitchelll 3 ай бұрын
I have both an Apple TV and Sonos arc I’m leaning more towards the Sonos based on the price and carrying case alone
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
I think you’ll be happy with that choice
@jazenka99
@jazenka99 3 ай бұрын
AirPods Max 2 with USB C is my vote
@boltcc
@boltcc 3 ай бұрын
I've had the AirPods Max since they came out, Love them. But I have a house full of Sonos, I'm tired of waiting for Apple to maybe do a plug update. The Ace's come Weds in white., I want the Ace because I want the EQ you get in the Sonos app and there is no EQ in iTunes on an iPhone. I have the Arc soundbar in living room and a beam in the bedroom. Hope it won't take long for the update for the beam.
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
Let me know what you think!
@boltcc
@boltcc 3 ай бұрын
@@macrumorsI ordered it on the 1st day. They lost the order and I had to re-order and my date got pushed back. I called and let them have it after the software debacle. They bumped me back up and they come tomorrow
@boiserunner
@boiserunner 3 ай бұрын
How was sound quality one of the shortest sections of this headphone review?
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
To be honest, there’s only so much I can say about sound quality. You have to hear for yourself. All of the major players in this price range sound good to me. These are at the top and can be slightly tuned to your liking. Enough said 🤷‍♂️
@boiserunner
@boiserunner 3 ай бұрын
@@macrumors Not persuaded. Your audience doesn’t have the luxury of trying all the major players. Your role as the reviewer is to describe the sound quality in the context of all those options. As a reference point, MKBHD went into quite a bit more detail. I say this as encouragement not shaming: You can do better!
@Natak222
@Natak222 3 ай бұрын
@@boiserunner Lol.. MKBHD didn’t specify which sound quality is best either, only that Sonos’ EQ offers a tiny bit more flexibility. In the end he concluded that it depends which eco system you prefer. In other words, at this price range, it’s really about about the features because sound quality wise, they’re all on par with each other ($300+)
@g.s.7383
@g.s.7383 3 ай бұрын
He is not a professional sound maker or an audiophile so don't expect from a radnom youtuber to say things like the sound is really good. IT's just to his liking that's all.
@Scott.Landau.Realtor
@Scott.Landau.Realtor 3 ай бұрын
You can always purchase a bluetooth transmitter rather than a soundbar or AppleTV
@AcchatPrajapati-yi5qu
@AcchatPrajapati-yi5qu 3 ай бұрын
A wired set of reasonably priced over ear headphones along with a USB-C Hi Res dac would easily blow both these headphones out of the water for a fraction of their cost.
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
You’re missing the one click home theater connection though. That’s a major part of these
@jtjdt
@jtjdt 3 ай бұрын
The Auto-EQ on the AirPods Max is so damn good.
@Studio8Worx
@Studio8Worx 2 ай бұрын
For me Apple shouldn’t change the look of the Airpodsmax, its perfect already, headband is perfect it last in a period of time compared to leather. they only need to change are the sound , volume bass etc or adding apps eq to control the preferred sound
@marinoguiducci6248
@marinoguiducci6248 3 ай бұрын
Con la pessima qualità della attuale app Sonos come si fa a comprare altri prodotti Sonos?
@Aslam_Aliyu
@Aslam_Aliyu 3 ай бұрын
Also the most slept on headphones and my favorite after owning literally all of them from the Bose ultra, AirPod max, XM5 definitely has to be sennheiser momentum 5s they definitely sound much better than all of these
@andreadelgado3191
@andreadelgado3191 3 ай бұрын
Momentum 5??? Those are not even released yet
@Swanky587
@Swanky587 Ай бұрын
Sonos are 100% more comfortable
@RYN988
@RYN988 3 ай бұрын
I'm sticking with the max. I don't see any real advantage that differentiates between the two. Besides, to pay yet another 450 dollars to a company that fucked up its app and made all of my other Sonos products virtually useless gets a no from me.
@damifash758
@damifash758 3 ай бұрын
Even if the app was great Anyone who has any of the Bose Qc ultra..xm5..bowers and Wilkins px7 s2e or AirPods Max should not care about getting any new headphone for at least the next 2 years Everything in the 400-550 price point gives similar performance If you have any of them Anything else is waste of money
@Josh-Tech-Reviews
@Josh-Tech-Reviews 3 ай бұрын
What the f bro, Sonos done f'ed up.
@Josh-Tech-Reviews
@Josh-Tech-Reviews 3 ай бұрын
@@damifash758 LOL
@Drothen-
@Drothen- 2 ай бұрын
@@Josh-Tech-Reviewsmad cuz bad?
@AD-oy8nm
@AD-oy8nm 3 ай бұрын
when is sony coming out with XM6.
@Wagmiman
@Wagmiman 3 ай бұрын
All my airpods, gen 1, 2, pros, 3 and max, have had serious issues. Been waiting for a decent competitor to ditch the apple train.
@iggynor5007
@iggynor5007 3 ай бұрын
Please compare the Sonos to the Sony
@andrewcarfax-foster5046
@andrewcarfax-foster5046 3 ай бұрын
What Hi-Fi, who seem to be pretty rational about this type of thing and were not very flattering of the Ace sound quality at all.
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
🤷‍♂️ seen and talked to plenty of people who seemed to really like the sound quality
@andrewcarfax-foster5046
@andrewcarfax-foster5046 3 ай бұрын
@@macrumors Perhaps it's the What Hi-Fi fella's who are the outlier. Thanks for the review and response too.
@SOBRANTE409
@SOBRANTE409 Ай бұрын
I prefer the Sonos Ace personally
@jeffreyjoseph559
@jeffreyjoseph559 2 ай бұрын
Only thing holding me back from buying the AirPods Max is Apple. If the Max 2 only new feature is usb-c I’m ordering the minute orders go live.
@brentsmithline3423
@brentsmithline3423 3 ай бұрын
Look great. Thing is I am not an over the head headset user
@kuemagecollector
@kuemagecollector 27 күн бұрын
Got the sonos ace for 300$ open box best buy.
@nigelsmith721
@nigelsmith721 3 ай бұрын
If you have a Sonos Upgrade Credit available you can get £70 off the Ace.
@elliekim6666
@elliekim6666 3 ай бұрын
If you're buying one now the Sonos ACE.... I wouldn't spend over $300 for the Airpods because of it's age tbh
@glenf4115
@glenf4115 3 ай бұрын
Everything playing on your TV plays on the Arc/Ace vs Everything playing from your Apple TV can play on the AirPods Max
@djhonda355
@djhonda355 3 ай бұрын
Oh wow guys, he’s HONEST again!
@BenDMitchell
@BenDMitchell 3 ай бұрын
Can I wear these outside?
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
Sure
@ianvanessen9356
@ianvanessen9356 3 ай бұрын
Imagine paying $600 for a pair of headphones that will “get you by”
@simon737
@simon737 3 ай бұрын
I’ve got Sonos speakers around the house and they’re not the best in terms of connectivity/alexa etc the app is clunky and not intuitive. I have the AirPods Max and won’t be changing to the Ace
@nathanielwilson1899
@nathanielwilson1899 3 ай бұрын
If you have apple products the AirPod max are the best choice period. They integrate and work perfectly with all Apple devices.
@Heyjadid
@Heyjadid 3 ай бұрын
The word "premium" has been greatly overstated as the best choice. Most luxury cars are essentially plastic. Most luxurious homes are not made of "premium metals." The whole idea of "premium" is insane and overly used to describe the best, which isn't necessarily true.
@schurmannfotografie8283
@schurmannfotografie8283 3 ай бұрын
I wait for the Max 2 with usb c
@Mooooooof
@Mooooooof 3 ай бұрын
WH-1000XM5 in comparison? Better value? Must be due AirPods Max 2 at some point soon as well, lighter and a bit cheaper would be a nice upgrade
@damifash758
@damifash758 3 ай бұрын
Xm6 is also in the works and is rumored for next year
@Johnnyhaag79
@Johnnyhaag79 3 ай бұрын
2 will be cheaper than 1. Apple always prices version 1 higher of a brand new product,and version 2 the price can come down. They did this with the m2 MacBook Air, iPad 10… etc Max airpods 2 I predict 499, or hopefully 449.
@mohamedahmed1023
@mohamedahmed1023 3 ай бұрын
The sound profile is NOT neutral. There is bass emphasis but the treble in particular is wayyyyy too lifted. These headphones have a horrible frequency response and the app is crap. Not to mention a largely plastic design is off-putting at this price point.
@tonygorham
@tonygorham 2 ай бұрын
If you are on Android and want to use these for tv from the arc just save your money. It's iphone only and you'll water 40 mins to get to that conclusion
@thomasshi7717
@thomasshi7717 3 ай бұрын
comparing any new headphones to airpods max just feels like insult.
@susieroberts8175
@susieroberts8175 Ай бұрын
Just received and tried the Sonos Ace. Absolute rubbish. Going straight back.
@johnryan1386
@johnryan1386 2 ай бұрын
The Ace looks better and is lighter and sounds good
@katekozuch6957
@katekozuch6957 3 ай бұрын
Awesome comparison Dan!
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Kate 😊
@antoniogomez8585
@antoniogomez8585 3 ай бұрын
I’ll just wait for Max 2 feels Like Apple Is due for update and hopefully they’ll less heavy and USB-C
@UttRConcrete
@UttRConcrete 3 ай бұрын
"SONOS Aces, Airpods Max...Which ones worth your hard earned cash, Well I wont make you wait to the end of this video but I will say I highly recommend watching the whole thing just because etc." LOL sounded like a good poem for the headphones.
@macrumors
@macrumors 3 ай бұрын
😂
@jimmyscott7414
@jimmyscott7414 3 ай бұрын
The recent Sonos app update has slowed down the whole experience. I just did a quick test and it took 39 seconds from opening the Sonos app to hearing music come from one of my speakers. I would go bonkers if I had the same issue with a pair of headphones.
@jimmyscott7414
@jimmyscott7414 3 ай бұрын
As a comparison I just tested the same thing with my air pods. Was 18 seconds to get them out of the case, open Apple Music and have music playing. I searched for the same album in both instances so it would be a fair test. So takes twice as long with Sonos and I imagine the Ace headphones will be the same.
@TAELSDOLL
@TAELSDOLL 3 ай бұрын
watch it get a death update in 5 yrs lmao
@NAG3
@NAG3 3 ай бұрын
Airpodmax are very good but if you don't have an iPhone or apple product it's not worth it
@pizzashaman
@pizzashaman 3 ай бұрын
Apple please give us APM 2
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