Sony a7R II Hands-on Review

[@reyc6687]

4 years later. Finally I can afford one. A used one ofc

[@MrPicquic]

RinZler me too!!

[@cjchannel1322]

i am considering this and canon eos m6 markii

[@dj_coldshower]

Haha straight up, just got one used as well. Maybe I'll get the Mark IV in 2050!

[@robburgundy9539]

DJ ColdShower ikr lmaooooo

[@pejamane]

bruh same lol

[@SubliminalGenius]

Bought one of these new back in 2017 and it's bloody brilliant, I've not even considered upgrading! Images are crisp and dynamic range is fantastic! it's a 10/10 camera!

[@brown55061]

The Sony engineers are lucky. Sony lets them do pretty much whatever they want and out match any other manufacturer in virtually all facets. How often does your boss say build and design the best of something, spare no expense? Sony is a major player now!

[@tungstenwhizard4361]

brown55061 Yeah, as a Canon user, I can tell you, it's unsatisfying to deal with their slowness.

[@aaronjun32]

@@tungstenwhizard4361 Canon comeback though

[@DigitalrevTV]

The Full-Frame Tiger Uppercut of mirrorless cameras!

[@seoirse777]

DigitalRev TV " not as accurate too" ... you mean, EITHER

[@CaptainMcSmoky]

DigitalRev TV What were you doing in Bury St Edmunds?

[@1MSTV]

Interesting...

[@jkbordoloi]

DigitalRev TV Kai is turning into a A7 fan boy.

[@antoinebernard8]

You forgot the "K" of 4k in the description!!!!!!

[@AutoFOCUSED.]

As a Canon 5D3 shooter - kudos Sony. Doing what Canon users have wanted forever.

[@crazyRyoga]

SincerelyAND Canon and Nikon will release a FF mirrorless sooner or later, they have to. More products equal more quality for customers. I can't wait XD.

[@MrZombs123]

SincerelyAND yeah.. :--/ its true.. Im very tempted by this.. not to abandon my canon stuff bc DSLR is still better for me for event shooting. but for portrait sessions, esp. outdoors, this camera would rock! still waiting for a dang canon 5D mark IV announcement.. id love to get one of these but the $3100 price tag, plus id have to get into at least one or two native lenses means a lot of cash.. **sigh**

[@smaakjeks]

+crazyRyoga The benefits of market competition! Hurray for Sony (speaking as Canon guy)!

[@ShiroKage009]

Robert Stofa If you're using it mainly for portrait sessions then I imagine that the adapters will serve you very well, won't they?

[@MrZombs123]

ShiroiKage009 not sure. Haven't tried them, but I guess they probably would.

[@saeedmatar2291]

"omg best camera ever " ! * sees the price * nevermind i have my phone .

[@GrowingDownUnder]

+Said Matar for the price not worth it over other brands

[@saeedmatar2291]

GrowingDownUnder actually its really good for the price , but i cant afford it .

[@saeedmatar2291]

***** haha indeed

[@GrowingDownUnder]

I think it's still got some work it needs improving on, but it's a decent dslr. The price is too high for the body alone without a lens kit, plus it doesn't have reversible flip touch screen. Auto focus needs improving, bright light colour saturation is off, sharpness issues, etc...i'd rather the 70d even though the video quality isn't as good it's got everything I want in a dslr. It's just outdated now so i'm waiting or the 80d, it's apparently got features from the 7d mk2

[@saeedmatar2291]

GrowingDownUnder but its not a dslr ... its a mirror-less there is a difference , and how do you expect a full frame camera to come with a kit lens ?!!!!! and the reversible flip touch screen is just a gimmick , the autofucos is excellent in this camera , bright light colour saturation and sharpness are the best right now , and also consider the new 500d if you want a beast to kill both the 80d and 7dmk2 .

[@eclipsegfxable]

Man Sony are killing it right now!

[@TheNewAlexProject]

Young Sandwich with the help of the zeiss system, this collaboration is genius, makes me want to throw away my canon gear!

[@eclipsegfxable]

TheNewAlexProject Like wise!

[@smaakjeks]

+TheNewAlexProject I'll take that canon gear, don't even worry about it :D

[@triggerfingerstudios]

Young Sandwich indeed, sony are.

[@BadMouse101]

Young Sandwich errr, Hi guys, my names... Canon, and I have ummm, a Cool colour combination, and lots of lenses! And you can have it all for just twice the price and half the content.

[@sepantafard5845]

tanks mate . it was so possitive interview . wow i still enjoye with this bloody olsen 7rii in 2023 with great price👌🏻

[@ianmilne655]

Finally got one of these. It's bloody brilliant! I use vintage manual Takumar lenses and this camera with the focus peaking function makes it a dream to use.

[@MooreRiku]

I couldn't be happier. The A7R mkII has replaced both my EOS 6D (Full frame sensor) and EOS 60D (ASP-C size sensor). Both Bodies are for sale now. I have a collection of Sigma lenses 35mm f1,4. 50mm f1,4. 10-20mm f3,5 (ASP-C). 85mm F1,4. 70-200mm f2,8. 120-300mm f2,8. 180mm f2.8. All of these lenses work with a number of the Sony focusing methods. So happy. What is just so unreal is that the viewfinder shows you what shot will be taken (you can see the effect of stopping up/down). I have waaay more in-focus shots than ever before. This is a dream of a camera. Just be prepared to carry extra batteries!!!

[@alluviapictures4692]

Glad you're having a positive experience with the A7RII, but here was my experience... The auto focus system isn't all that great. I have an a7 ii which out performs it when it shouldn't. The IBIS is terrible in crop mode on this camera... it causes lag when you move around... sorta a slight catch up to your motion ... at least that's what I"m getting. Normal on close and medium shots... but when you start doing large objects like trees that are about 15 or more feet away, it shows up and any hand shake really shows up badly. The rolling shutter is the worst I've seen in S35 Mode... worse than the A6300. Getting back to the auto focusing... I was photographing birds, fast action flying, and the a7r ii had a heck of time getting sharp focus on the subject, where as the a7 ii was right on! I went through the AF settings A-Z, and there were just too many misses and not enough hits one might say... I just had to send the A7r II back, and keep my A7 II. Sure the video is sharper than the A7 II 1080p... should be that it's 4K FF or 4K Crop 1 to 1 readout no pixel skipping, but the rolling shutter is terrible... 4K FF is better, but it's too soft... more like 2 or 2.5K, and has more artifacts in it because it's not a 1 to 1 read (well it wouldn't be on a 42MP sensor...). I like to do a lot of movement in my shots... not still or locked down (which is funny cause most of the a7r ii video is all still type shots...) and I know there are ways to avoid it, but that puts a clamp on me and the RL is horrendous! I'd rather have 1080p video that usable, then UHD Video that's no (unless i do still shots or extremely slow moves). My RX10 III has much better UHD video in terms of usability... The A6300 def. had better video since it does a 1 to 1 read s35 mode 24P.. 6K down sampled to 4K... although the RL was bad as well... but not as bad as the A7R II crop mode. Maybe I had a bad copy.. it wasn't a grey market version... US model with warranty... but not for me.

[@21upbowls]

wow this camera must be good if kai finally likes a sony, great review

[@ryanalden1689]

To be honest, I don't really want to know about A7R II, it is just so entertaining to watch you guys.

[@teemohnay]

I just bought one of these. Huge upgrade from my a7i! Love it! Especially with Zeiss and G glass!

[@PaceyPimp]

Please make a video LG G4 vs a basic DSLR to see if LG's claim that the G4 can replace a DSLR is true or not

[@austinecrow]

TechPimp a phone will never replace a DSLR lol

[@Tigermoto]

TechPimp Hahahahahahahaha

[@PaceyPimp]

+Austin Crow tarta obvious but if you look art other channels that did this challenge it comes close. the only big difference is the lenses but the quality seams to be there. I'd love to see this channels take on this challenge.

[@kabiluddin9204]

+TechPimp Ha ha ha. Dude, are you serious? Smartphone maker can say whatever they want but don't fall for marketing stunt.

[@andros527]

+TechPimp dude, never believe marketing or advertising,smartphones sensor is too small, it can't even beat dslr or mirrorless sensor

[@gamerN77]

Except for the video at the beach, this is the first time I've seen Kai in nature

[@carjac820]

Waited long enough to 2021. This thing is now as cheap as mid-range APS-C camera.

[@Anewevisual]

Period

[@nsoufiani]

Another amazing review. Keep it up! All of my camera education comes from you guys :)

[@crazyRyoga]

nima Please don't. This channel is funny and everything but if you want detailed reviews look for something else mate.

[@nsoufiani]

+crazyRyoga haha sorry, I wasn't actually 100% serious but I do like their camera reviews. I perhaps went a bit overboard with my comment

[@crazyRyoga]

nima Hahah no need to be sorry mate, mine was just an advice ;) cheers.

[@smaakjeks]

+nima Check out the Tony Northrup channel. It's awesome.

[@kalidesu]

***** That guy is a twit, he think f-stop changes if you put a full frame lens on a crop camera body, and believes "P-Mpix" a made up metric by Dxomark is good way to judge the quality of a lens.

[@tyrant_academy]

Asian guy with British accent is blood awesome! Isn't it?

[@notpebbles310]

this is my dream camera

[@lorrainebezone8124]

same here

[@lorrainebezone8124]

same here

[@NedFlanders612]

Save your money for the Camera & the lens. It's worth it.

[@beraatylmaz3855]

Fr0mDark2Light in my country (Turkey) this camera is 11.000 Turkish liras. That's means If I am a waiter I Have to work and save my money 8 month without any expenses. If I save half of my money it will take 16 months to buy that camera. I am talking about just the body If I would buy a lens GMaster or Batis series I gotta work 3 months without any expenses. Damn life is so hard bro.

[@ferryunterwegs858]

Einfach heftig wie viel Videos du drehst. Ich glaube da geht ne Menge Zeit drauf. Ist aber sehr spannend zuzusehen und man kann wirklich von überall deine Videos schauen.

[@hb0x]

Kai is still in England???

[@daleykun]

+hb0x Yeah that's Bury St Edmunds

[@toocoolforu]

hb0x That's HK neigborhoods

[@tronkel1]

hb0x This looks like Newark-on-Trent Notts

[@Mamo878]

Daley Indeed, Arc Shopping Centre and environs.

[@krishnadoshi7442]

***** hello! how awesome is the A7rii? canon and nikon really need to step their game up...in some aspects

[@iglooo102videos]

Looks like a camera packed with tons of features...the pictures also are beyond great

[@LMMxFTW]

Holy crap. That is an insane camera.

[@barryspiers7022]

Met Kai on the sea front in Hunstanton Norfolk (UK), he was with Lok and Alamby (I think), really nice guy, said he was enjoying the fish & chips!! Keep the vids coming Kai we love them......

[@taefhayabusa]

"this is better than real life " Lmfao

[@taefhayabusa]

Move_I_Got_This lol i know sir i own this camera

[@nicolascueto]

finally a camera that has Kai's seal of approval!!!

[@MaksimYuryev]

Great review. Awesome camera for still but not for 4K. 4k detail is worse then less expensive cameras like GH4/G7 and NX1/NX500 and it overheats in 4K mode with LCD closed or open, even in freezing temps.

[@riogrande100]

Max Yuryev Waiting for your 5 good thing review :) Love your vids tho

[@MaksimYuryev]

Yusuf Moraby Basically for photos its a killer camera minus the battery life but thats to be expected. :)

[@riogrande100]

Max Yuryev thanks Mark. So tempted

[@photorectoby]

Max Yuryev in freezing temps?!?- come on man- I recorded 4k for 35 minutes in a very warm room the other day and it was fine- the camera was very warm but no issues. On my Iceland trip I recorded tons of 8-10 minute clips at 4k with no issues.

[@MaksimYuryev]

+PhotoRec Toby this is not my observation just a comment from a youtuber on my video. The Camera overheated on me when I was shooting in 73F temps inside apartment during wedding prep. This was shooting clips that average about 1 min long with about 1min average between shots with LCD open switching between super 35 and FF modes. I wonder if this is more of a build quality issue more than design? I've had 2 people comment and say they don't have overheating issues (you and one other guy) and about 15 say they do.

[@RickMentore]

This was entertaining, informative and overall engaging as it gets! You are among the best on the web at this kind of review.

[@jetlag1488]

Sony haters are still going to hate lol.

[@carlycruise]

They bitch because they know they're stuck with now inferior dinosaur equipment from brands that are falling faster then RIM blackberry

[@gamer-y8m9o]

+Jet Lag they hate us cause they anus

[@gotDesign]

+MrKdr500 The Sony A7Rii with its range price and features is not for hobbyist as you pointed out... A lot of professional Photographer are throwing away their Canon and Nikon cameras in the garbage and buying/switching to Sony Gears, from Jason Lanier to Gary Fong... Of course if theres Nikon and Canon fanboys, you will expect the bashing from this kids

[@AshBashVids]

+Max Name them. Not just two. I'm pretty sure most professionals are still sticking with their DSLRs. The tech for mirrorless still isn't up to scratch yet.

[@peterfuto621]

+Max Lol.. all the best top landscape and portrait photographers for example still use DSLR cameras... Just look on 500px for example, how many good photos been make with a7r and how many with 5d3 for example...

[@IbrahimSidibay]

I’m enjoying my new Sony A 7R2 right now and thank you so much for this video it makes me have more hands on the camera, since I now understand how to work this camera! Thank you so much for this video! Keep it up!

[@AlbertoRestifo]

I miss Kay abusing a Sony camera, it almost feels wrong for him to treat it well.

[@CoconutWaterfalls]

the current UsED price of that lens is about $600. surprised he never mentioned that part.

[@themondoshow]

Ingenious Productions this video is 4 years old

[@sosoishero]

Kai missed one thing, the real uppercut is that with the use of a third party electronic adapter for Canon, it focuses just as fast as native Sony ones, making Canon bodies virtually irrelevant as you can switch to A7Rii with all your Canon lens, functioning just as well as ever.

[@calvinchann1996]

Not all.

[@DerSystematiker]

+sosoishero I don't know how fast native Sony lenses focus on an A7RII but many native Canon Lenses focus lightning fast on Canon bodies. The A7RII with adapter doesn't come even close. Depending on which adapter you use and which lens it will work okay, unreliable or not at all. The A7RII AF with adapter is good for "slow" photos - but with focus peaking you really don't need AF at all for that. Where AF and tracking is most important - when it comes to sports and action - the A7 as well as basically every mirrorless I've tried stand no chance against a decent DSLR. I wish I could make the transition to mirrorless - I really like 'em - but I can't. Besides the AF performance there are still some issues with the handling - apart from the weird weight distribution when using heavy lenses. Especially with the Sony. You have to press too many buttons and scroll through too many stuff even for elementary settings. Yes, there's a learning steeper curve for Nikon or Canon DSLR bodies (the better ones) but once you got used to it you can do everything so fast. The camera is more like an extension of the photographer. Whereas the Sony feels more like a computer.

[@sosoishero]

DerSystematiker Everything you've said is just pure fanboyism. I am no Sony fanboy and that I own GH4, A7s, A7R II and a 5D Mark III. In fact, most of my lens are Canon lens. -Steeper learning curve for Canon: No, learning curve for Canon is virtually non-existent because Canon just cripple their camera so much and option aren't their in the first place. Without options and features, how can that be "learning curve"?Do you even understand the word "learning curve"? - Using non native lens to compare AF. You are using Canon lens on Canon body comparing against Canon lens on Sony bodies. Try using native Sony lens on Sony bodies then we'll talk. -Weight Distribution: Bullshit excuse for comparison, especially A7R II isn't that lightweight due to IBIS and the redesigned body. Hell ,low level Canon bodies such as 750D and 760D are so lightweight you can make that argument go anywhere. You can even make a 1DX bad weight distribution by using a 1000mm f 5 Sigma. Invalid point here. -"The camera is more like an extension of the photographer. Whereas the Sony feels more like a computer." One of the most bullshit excuse I ever heard in my entire career. People go to bodies that have more features and are most cost efficient. How can you even distinguish between "extension of photographer". My fellow photographers and cinematographer are leaving Canon bodies (except buying a 5DSR because of that monstrous 50MP beast) and that's a fact. -Unreliable AF : again if you want "reliable", go with native lens, I just have no idea why you use this point to convince me. It is just plain invalid "Where AF and tracking is most important - when it comes to sports and action" If you are a sport photographer, you'll be getting a Canon 7D system anyways as there are no competition on that field right now. Using a body feature against another bodies is just irrelevant. I could say that to you your 7D only have 20.2MP but my A7Rii have 42MP. Does A7Rii now became a better camera? No. It is better because of more options, just like you've said A7Rii have peaking and Canon doesn't. Everything you said is now is like comparing a 2015 - 5 seater Luxurious Mercedes for comfort against a 1995 - 2 seater Ferrari for speed. And state that the old Ferrari is superior because it has more speed. Don't be a keyboard warrior, go out and take more pictures. Also, I don't hate Canon, I only hate ignorant people like you.

[@DerSystematiker]

+sosoishero Fanboyism? Fan of what? Quick to use pro DSLRs with fast telephoto lenses no matter who makes them? Then I'm guilty as charged. BTW, you threw in the Canon brand in the first place - and you know why. You're saying - since there's no learning curve for Nikon and Canon DSLR - every human being is born with the knowledge of what the button with the asterisk on it does, what CF3-4 means and how to enable back button focus and stuff like that etc.? If not, it's obviously you who hasn't a clue what a learning curve is. There are more buttons and they are highly customizable. All I'm saying is that the handling is meant to be as quick as possible once you know how it works and you configured as you like it. With the current Sony cameras it's different. Many things I have change a lot, have to be changed through menus - requiring lot more button actions. The Sony is kind of more intuitive - you will never need a manual - but it's slower to operate. Weight Distribution: You can't say mirrorless cameras are much small and lightweight but ignoring the disadvantages that come with that. Weight distribution is worse than a pro DSLR with when using the same heavy glass. Period. I tried it and it does not work that well. Even a 70-200 2.8 - which is a very common lens - was notably cumbersome on a A7R when resting the lens on my left hand while turning the zoom ring. To make it comfortable I had to move my hand more towards the front of the lens making it harder to operate the zoom ring. Back the AF topic. You wrote: >>Try using native Sony lens on Sony bodies then we'll talk.> with the use of a third party electronic adapter for Canon, it focuses just as fast as native Sony ones>making Canon bodies virtually irrelevant as you can switch to A7Rii with all your Canon lens, functioning just as well as ever>If you are a sport photographer, you'll be getting a Canon 7D system anyways as there are no competition on that field right now.>I could say that to you your 7D only have 20.2MP but my A7Rii have 42MP. Does A7Rii now became a better camera? No.>Everything you said is now is like comparing a 2015 - 5 seater Luxurious Mercedes for comfort against a 1995 - 2 seater Ferrari for speed. And state that the old Ferrari is superior because it has more speed.>Don't be a keyboard warrior, go out and take more pictures

[@sosoishero]

DerSystematiker Ok lets keep this civil. You've got a point at "rendering Canon obsolete" because 7D is so much quicker then A7Rii , Sorry on contradicting myself, I don't expect people to have evenry single Canon lens in the world to test but... "Learning curve problem". You are now just picking bones in an egg. If you can't understand exaggeration I don't know what. You've said Canon and Nikon have "steeper" learning curve, and said now the Canon is easier to use. If Sony had more options to learn from than Canon, I would say Sony has a more steeper learning curve. The problem is, everything in those "overwhelming menus" have their purpose, while Canon doesn't even have them. You ,to me ,are justifying the lack of features are good thing. Lack of features means it is not good. "A7R on 80-200" You sure it is a A7R not A7Rii? A7rii is way heavier and bulkier, more resemblance a traditional DSLR. More over, you could just add extra weight( like external battery compartment) to balance it all out. On the other hand you cannot remove weight from Canon Pro DSLR if you are using not too heavy lens like Primes lens. I won't make you like a lightweight camera, period, but again, it is the choice of customization. I could add weight if I like, If i want to use it as travel camera, it can be light. Canon on the hand always heavy. You again to me is justifying a heavy camera. Heavy camera is not a good thing. P.S. A7Rii 625g vs 860g 5DIII body only >>How's that different? I'd say it's subjective again. Does a sports photographer care about focus peaking?

[@-freespirit-3314]

This Sony camera is the wed'dream tool from heaven. Here begins, the new revolution of photography. - Thanks Sony - excellent job - well done - thanks a lot -

[@strategy_photos1382]

I picked one up for 700 with 10 batteries. It’s a great camera 😄

[@Kref3]

And the best about this camera: Now that its successor A7R III is out on the market for some months, price of the A7R II has dropped so considerably, that I finally decided to buy one. Waiting for the best is stupid, buying the top of the line model is usually wasted money, going for last years model is economically a reasonable thing. I am so eager to buy an A7R III. In three years or so, when the A7R IV gets released.

[@Borderlands808]

Still worth getting in 2019?? I can’t afford the iii.

[@joenachef5300]

Worth it, bought it used a couple of weeks ago, with kit lens for $1700 Canadian and opted to spend money on a few Batis lenses

[@70mjc]

Borderlands808 ........... it’s an incredible camera. Why would a year make a difference? Stick with your phone....

[@themondoshow]

70mjc hahahah

[@shahlegno5890]

Absolutely this is the the ultimate camera i will buy!

[@xolracke]

By the time this video was release the a7RIII was announced 😂

[@Xzefreeman]

This feels so old school Kai Wong, I'm glad this whole England thing got him back on his roots haha. cheers!

[@daanstam6697]

a7r vs a7rII vs 5dsr PLEASE BATTLE OF THE RRRRRR's (maybe pirate theme?)

[@dorfschmidt4833]

daan stam Tony Northrup did.

[@TheCheBaBa]

+Dorf Schmidt But it sucks. After the A6000 review from Tony, my believe in him low at -1.

[@laurentoutang8273]

Q Hm Tony runs for Nikon and Olympus not for Sony and Canon

[@JaxsonNZ]

+Q Hm Tony Who?!

[@laurentoutang8273]

Richand Fleur Jackson Northrup... A seller who pretend to be a mentor of camera gears not a very important guy but very convincing he has got his channel on youtube. It's quite borring compare to Kai's show

[@paleviolent]

wow.... first sony that kai didnt really nit-picking about! seems like a legit reason to buy this.

[@TheProphegy]

Any chance this camera goes on sale soon? A new A7RII and a decent lense is almost $5000. Too much for me right now.

[@dog666]

christmas sales / new version of existing camera (price drop) / or five finger discount.

[@BladeAutoCenter]

Excellent video. If our intent is for both video and photo, is the low light capability of the Sony a7s2 worth giving up on the good AF? we intend to use Auto all the time when we shoot videos. Is a7r2 a better choice if we intend to use AUTO all the time?

[@jetlag1488]

Sigma better announce their FE lenses soon. I want more good and affordable lenses for my A6000.

[@ArrKayCee]

The is the most positive review you've ever done. Wish I had the money for this, it looks great! Got the D610 instead though, still awesome.

[@PaulHojda]

Dacias in the background at 2:03

[@laurentoutang8273]

Paul Hojda WOW... Misty Mountain music at 5:20

[@traianima]

Paul Hojda First thing i did when i saw the Duster and Sandero in the background was to scroll down and check for any comments about them. Cineva trebuia sa o spuna LOL

[@PaulHojda]

Traian Constantin Pai nu? ;)

[@osbertintanu]

Paul Hojda Great News the Dacia Sandero is here. GREAT!

[@niklaspilot]

It's the DACIA SANDERO... :D

[@DonDaDonn]

This review is amazing! Thank you 🙏🏾

[@thomasleerriem6872]

The footage was shot in Hong Kong? At the time when this beautiful please wasn't "chinanized" yet, and there's was still freedom of speech and respect for basic human rights. Things can change in a snap...

[@aleksandrnestrato]

Sony is showing off for several decades here! In every aspect of industry they are involved in they invented something new. And several times it costed a lot to them. They were one of the first to launch massive production of amplifiers with field-effect transistors, one of the inventors of "laser disc" (CDs and DVDs), first to make portable players, they invented the MiniDisc system (unsuccessful one), memory cards, three sensors in the digital video- and telecameras, first who put an EVF on a photo camera, they are one of the companies which invented the SACD and the BlueRay. Sony is a freak on the market. They try to do everything in a different way. Many of their inventions made modern world and many costed billions of dollars to the company. They are the only company in the world that makes so pricy mistakes continuing to make them! Look at the photo cameras Sony were producing before acquiring Konica-Minolta: fracturing all the traditions of the that time market.

[@lawlerzwtf]

I miss Alamby

[@paulhills1967]

Excellent review Kai - thanks

[@UberDurable]

Sony is operating more like Apple, dropping a new model every 6 months. But somehow lagging in the field of lenses.

[@xboxseriesboy1834]

Those photos looked amazing!

[@matthew0410hwang]

I mean it's only $3200. Let me just check my empty pockets.

[@bohnstube]

Matthew Hwang Sony's price for this camera's actually more than pretty competitive when you're comparing what you get for what you're spending, considering the selling points for the other cameras in its class like the D810 and the 5DS and the 5DS R.

[@GrowingDownUnder]

+Matthew Hwang (Oooas) just for the body alone without the lens kit haha, such a rip off ain't nobody paying that price if they do they got played big time

[@bohnstube]

GrowingDownUnder Is the price out of most people's budgets? Obviously. But for those whose jobs or pocketbooks demand the best tools, the reason why Sony can charge the prices that it does on cameras such its A7 lineup, its RX100 and RX10 lineup of pocket point and shoots and "bridge-style" cameras, and its RX1 lineup of *full frame* sensor pocket cameras, is simply because no other manufacturer makes anything like them, or makes similar items which perform *across the board* as well as they do. Look at which company has grabbed "Best Camera of the Year" honors in more camera categories from more trusted and reputable camera review sites since 2012, and there'll be only one name at the top of that list: Sony. Customers are obviously paying the price for what they want, and because dealers can't keep in stock the amount of cameras in the A7 lineup (most notably the A7R II) they're not about to start cutting prices anytime soon because they simply don't need to, as the cameras simply have no competition.

[@GrowingDownUnder]

Yeah I guess that's true i'll look more into sony you make good points, I'm not hating on sony just so far canon has had what i'm looking for. I can understand for some cinematic film makers & documentary/wildlife movie makers the sony would what they're looking for. All good just difference of opinion and what audience the camera is aimed towards

[@GrowingDownUnder]

If only they weren't out of my price range though

[@jlosinski]

"... there's lots of trolley action going on!" Haven't watched one of these since last year- glad to see nothing's changed :)~

[@TheRyDesigns]

This is camera porn. I love it!

[@CNekFR]

Great review, as always !

[@TheMightyKinkle]

6:53 Demi Levato in 20 years

[@julianwortham9763]

TheMightyKinkle LMFAOOOOO

[@Lastman10101]

Hey digital rev thanks for the video you guys do a great job!

[@funfunfun536]

Just can't believe it!! DRTV praised Sony!! No way! Am I sleeping? )))

[@carlycruise]

He basically blew a load on the loxias and batis

[@andrewrafferty1194]

I'd really like to see camera swap come back. I was really enjoying it before it so abruptly ended.

[@dyingelectron4392]

When he said 'It's just a disappointment', I was literally about to close video and cancel my order of A7 rii.

[@yourfavoritecousing8096]

same, best camera I've ever had now though lol

[@dyingelectron4392]

@@yourfavoritecousing8096 What lenses are you using with it?

[@yourfavoritecousing8096]

@@dyingelectron4392 I have the kit 28-70mm, sony 85mm f1.8 (my favorite), sony 24-70mm gmaster, and the sony 70-200mm gmaster

[@JA-zy8lv]

Did you get it? How is it? I heard the batterie life sucks and i really want to get it

[@Indignepourdeux]

@@JA-zy8lv the battery life is absolutely terrible. Get a grip first thing, no puns intended

[@Paullebbon]

Bury.St.Edmunds, so nice to see my old hometown.

[@ERP_Klim]

I own this camera, and I must say that it is A BLOODY AMAZING CAMERA THAT DESTRYES ANY CANONS AND NIKONS! Check out a review on my channel :)

[@manbolomo]

Extreme Remake Production nah..

[@ERP_Klim]

+Andreas Breslawski no prob with that

[@visker81]

+Extreme Remake Production Sandwich Bought mine on Amazon has the best price at the moment www.amazon.com/Sony-zFezgull-Frame-Mirrorless-Interchangeable-ILCE7RMf2/dp/B00ZDWGFR2/?tag=ref10-20

[@ammralhalabi7363]

this camera is wow!!! can u do a video about the video quality of this, specially with the XLR audio plugin, a lot of videographers is thinking about this because of that and 4k internally and the cropping factor, we need that review man =D love u folks

[@bentyreman5769]

I might have to sell my old canon 5d mk1 for this

[@JOJOROB55]

Nice to see you back in England Kai Sony A7rmk2 I would love one Sony on A roll.

[@ramonite]

No more Sony bashing? I'm disappoint.

[@scorpion199227]

ramonite why bash something that is amazing?

[@Tomasz_Piekarski]

scorpion199227 Welcome to the internet network. I guess you have never seen Kai's Sony reviews ever before. ;-P

[@ramonite]

scorpion199227 you must be new here...

[@scorpion199227]

I've seen his Sony reviews when he used to bash on there DSLT's and NEX cameras but as I was saying why would he want to bash on something that is a game changer in camera industry

[@robburgundy9539]

MY biggest problem is lens. I really want this camera, though it requires a sharp lens to take advantage of it. I use this rule of thumb, the lens should cost around the same as the camera....

[@EbrahimSaadawii]

Let's expand on the technical advantages/disadvantages of mirrorless VS. DSLRs and the ''but'' system. It's key. The first sentence is going to be an advantage for mirrorless and the second sentence after but it going to be anadvantage for DSLRs -Mirrorless cameras are smallerand ligher BUT many like bigger heavier camera for balance and feel and stability, bigger buttons/dials -Mirrorless caneras EVFs show WB/Peaking BUT OVF has no lag and in a real-world view through the optical lens. -Mirroless cameras have smaller lenses, BUT they have slower apertures, significantly less line-up and more cost. -Mirroless cameras have smaller/easier to carry power BUT draw more power and don't last as long as DSLRs at all -Mirrorless cameras have large AF coverage BUT not even nearly as reliable and fast as high-end DSLRs (7DII/1Dx) for focus tracking. -Mirroless cameras can use all lenses with adapters and cheap manual glassnBUT they can't use cheap and huge line-ups of SLR lenses with full native support (AF/IS/VR/EXIF/IRIS) even with the latest most advanced adapters there are lots of failures, plus need an adapter which us extra cost and a potential point of failure. -Mirrorless cameras are easier to travel with BUT they're nowhere near as rugged and environment resistant as DSLRs, not even close to the bricks that survive fire (7D/1Dx/D7100 etc) -Mirroless cameras have small affordable one slot media BUT no dual set-up for internal backup which is essential for most professional photographers. -Mirrorless cameras are stealthier, BUT DSLRs look more impressive for clients. Don't under-estimate this point if you're a marketing aware person. Mirrorless cameras are much more modern electronic devices with the advantages that come with that (apps/peaking/wifi/silence) BUT DSLRs are more mechanical and MUCH cheaper to repair if something fails. Mirrorless cameras have an absolutely gorgeous option for a small FF, BUT DSLRs have an option for a 12fps FF Metal brick with higher end AF and dual media and OVF so the only choice for FF sports/journalism/news/heavy environments Mirrorless cameras have higher resolution video 4K BUT DSLRs are agreed upon having better colours of skin/easier gradeability in video mode. Now there are advatnages at both systems that have not ''buts'', they simply exist in one and not the other and are clear advantages. Mirrorless cameras have manual focus assist, Mirroless cameras have Silent E-shutter modes, Mirroless cameras have a viewfinder for video shooting, Mirroless cameras have higher video frame rates for slo-mo, Mirroless cameras have LOG video gammas Mirrorless cameras have modern apps ability for buying features (even for future) Mirroless cameras have more articulated screens in general while ''most'' DSLRs are fixed DSLRs have more native selection of lenses at low cost and speed DSLRs have faster AF tracking/framerates/buffers for shooting sports DSLRs have much longer battery lifes/rates DSLRs have much more rugged and environment resistent bodies/lenses DSLRs have the only usable video AF solution in the world (Canon) DSLRs have higher conectivity and software compatability for high-end studio tethetred shooting, DSLRs have an enormous number for Flashes/speedlights DSLRs have a gigantic number of thrid party accessories like battery grips, batteries, flashes, DSLRs are virtually the only format ''available'' in mass amounts and cheap prices in third-world countries with absolute lack of any mirrorless penetration around the globe aside for UK/USA Now let's make some ''generalization'' comparisons, meaning features/qualities that are ''more'' available on one system while only available on a very limited scale on the other system offerings: -Mirrorless cameras mostly have m43s size sensors, with minimum of 1" sensors and maximum of FF sensors on one model, while DSLR have mostly APS-C sensors as minimum and medium format as maximum in various models, much much more larger sensor models (FF and APS-C and MF) -DSLRs have uncompressed 14bit raw files vs compressed on many mirroless cameras (which alone can diqualify FF mirroless at all for most professional shooters resulting in the fact that there are no FF options at all that are viable) -DSLRs mostly have two LCDs, while most Mirroless have one on the back. -Mirroless cameras mostly have better connectivity to web/wifi/smartphones while DSLRs are mostly isolated Even in the video field where Mirrorless seems to be the ultimate better options, there are benefits both ways, mirroless having EVF, LOG, 4K resolution, BUT DSLRs having the only video autofocus system in the world and agreed on upon having better skin tones/colours and easier gradeability. So if you specifically need AF, specifically want great colours out of the card, a DSLR is a better option EVEN for video! While if you want higher resolution, LOG gamma, EVF, then mirrorless is a better option for video. You choose the system and the model that offers the advantages you need and has the disadvantges you don't care about. That's all it is. It's easy to understand. If we compare specific cameras like these, there is absolutely no ultimate better solution for everybody, not even close, benefits both ways -T6s/D5500 vs A6000/a5100/M4s XT-1, G7, -6D/D610 vs A7 and A7II -D810/5Ds vs A7r and a7rII -1Dx vs what? GH4 as the fastest maybe. -MF SLR vs what, A7rII maybe as highest res, and sen. size -1DC/5DIIIRaw vs A7s Conclusion, benefits both ways, if you think one of these comparisons is ultimately better for everyone and everything than the other, you have NO understanding or experience in ANY way about cameras and users of the market. And that's not something you as a photographer should be ashamed of, you don't need to be a camera market expert, that's for people like us who recommend camera for many different buyers every day and are deep into the market aspect of it rather than a creative photographer shooting a specific genre where you'll have a limited system you're using that's best for you. This is the best sum up I can give about mirroless vs DSLRs subjectively.

[@mshrg]

At last, an unbiased review, that is funny, but not nearl silly territory, and kudos for not having any kinky jokes, we had enough of them for 12 years.

[@ShiroKage009]

Just a side note, it might be worth adding a little caption saying that there is a lossless raw option now. If you buy the camera now it comes with firmware version 3.0.0 which has that option, and if you bought it on release you can upgrade the firmware and get the option.

[@13druid13]

Not lossless, uncompressed actually. Lossless is compressed RAW while Sony now offers uncompressed RAW.

[@ShiroKage009]

13druid13 They compression was lossy, which is why it's lossless now.

[@13druid13]

ShiroiKage009 Both lossy and lossless are compressed formats. While technically, yes, uncompressed RAW is lossless, lossless RAW usually refers to a compressed format that supposedly retains all of the original RAW data but in a smaller compressed form, like a zip file. Companies like Canon, Nikon even Adobe DNG use lossless compressed formats. Sony's compression was always lossy which is why people complained about it and one of the reasons they now offer uncompressed RAW. Here's a couple of articles that go into more depth en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lossless_compression . www.dpreview.com/forums/post/41033995

[@ShiroKage009]

13druid13 Oh yeah, I understand. That's why I said it's lossy compression. It's kind of like FLAC vs MP3, where the first is lossless compression while the second other is lossy compression. Sony's old thing, with the 12+2 or whatever it was, was lossy. Now it's lossless, compressed or not.

[@13druid13]

I think I understand what you mean, but unless I'm reading what you wrote wrong, I don't think you understand what Sony is actually offering, no offense meant. When you say, "Now it's lossless, compressed or not", that's not true. Sony still offers lossy compression and does not offer a lossless compressed format like Canon, etc. does. Sony has two RAW formats now, one is compressed (11+7 bit lossy not lossless) and the other is uncompressed (lossless is a given as there is no compression). Now if you're saying lossless can refer to both compressed and uncompressed then yes, I agree with you. Although 90% of the time when you hear the term lossless it refers to a compression method. Which is why what you wrote in the beginning was confusing to me when you just said lossless.

[@ZachDames]

I've never heard him be so positive about a camera before. I'm buying it.

[@ianmilne655]

Still use my A7RII, fantastic camera even now👍

[@Schxndr]

1:28 internet drops to 360p me: damn… that’s beautiful 🥲

i've been waiting for this review so long! and i'm extremely satisfied! :D

[@dubsteppwarrior]

That looks like a slick camera I'd have no problem getting a high end Sony

[@drewgardner8326]

I love when the girl enters the frame at 3:47 to brag about her ice cream.

[@lynneftw]

I held off on the A7R for the A7R II. I'm also interested in how the a7000 specs will look. I want a camera I can shoot beautifully in low light...and one that does well with concert photography & "adequately-lit" fast indoor action. Recommendations? I prefer to keep it in the Sony family.

[@mr.oppenthunder2527]

The autofocus points are pretty awesome.

[@subkha1007]

And 5 years later, here i am.

[@Thezenitway]

after a week with this bad boy, i am in completely in love. With metabone 4, I found my canon 16-35 f2.8, 85 f1.2, 24-70 f2.8, 35 f1.4, 70-200 f2.8, and sigma 24 1.4, sigma 50 1.4 work extremely well with a7rii (outdoor and in lowlight). However my canon macro 100 f2.8L and the 135mm f2 won't focus.

[@OneUpdateataTime]

I'm really impressed at the update speed of Sony cameras which is why I will be holding out for the A7s II. I don't need 40+ megapixels, I just really want that low light capability. Problem is I hear the focus speeds on the A7s are slow and the A7r II really improved them so hopefully the A7s II will bring all the things we love about A7r II minus the massive megapixels to it's new and improved body... plus maybe a decent e mount zoom lens. *There are no f/2.8 e mount zooms and this disappoints me so much*

[@KurniaLim]

OneUpdateataTime IMHO, when someone want to be at the top position they will keep pushing just like Sony. The problem come when they're on top and thinking no one can take them down, I hope sony become only 2nd not the 1st so they keep pushing technology..

[@JoseMatutina1964]

You called my camera "The A7ii, the five axis stabilized mirrorless meh." No regrets and actually thrilled with my camera. Love your review just the same! :-)

[@RobertNES816]

Damn this camera must be good! Kai didn't have anything negative to say about it. I've been eyeing up the Sony RX100 mark 4 as a new high end point and shoot camera. Might just get one and sell my Nikon P340.

[@farhadfadayi7389]

I've A7Riii and very happy with her.

[@nsoufiani]

You're in the UK and I didn't get an invite?!??!?! Looks like I will have to randomly walk along the streets of Hong Kong to hopefully catch you guys in action :)

[@lacikollar64]

It need the reversible flip touch screen .You can better shoot and your screen is better protected against some damage.Sony should truly think about it. It is awesome camera overall without doubt

[@spielundzeug]

I'd love to see the RX100 MK4. Now that it seems like my future might be with Sony :)

[@ropersix]

Was an A7Rii used to film this? Because it looks different and better than some of the other review videos.

[@mshrg]

The review is amazing but it could've been better. the rolling shutter for pictures is avoidable with full mechanical shutter mode. Sharpness of the 4K video could be a product of the lens, but it should've been highlighted that it's an achievement that it is recorded internally, unlike the a7S. Moreover, in body steady-shot has the amazing advantage of being active with fast lenses (f1.8 and faster) which don't usually come with stabilization + it can be activated with adapted prime/manual lenses, like leica lenses!

[@maheshg212]

Kai, if you are still in London, I want to take you out for a drink... That was a good review. Unfortunately there is lot of difference in price between A7ii and A7rii, hence got the A7ii now. Might get A7sii later when it is released and the price comes down. Might as well get a damn good lens for the money saved!

[@giutubospatubo1546]

I did not buy the A7RII because of the lack of aspect ratios alternatives (only 16:9 and 3:2). I use 1:1 and 4:3 a lot!, as well as 16:9. And it's not a matter of just cropping in post, but rather of composing while shooting using the ratio you want. It make a big difference. I wonder why Sony omitted this in such an expensive camera. It would be so simple to add.

[@Toki1908]

Great narration, by the way.

[@leierlord]

i waited so loooong for it

[@thb5505]

Great review, thank you! Would you still consider this camera relevant five years later, and would you still recommend it? The current price point is very (very) interesting and in paper it seems it holds it's ground quiet well! Thanks again.

[@anthonycorlisatra4105]

I had spent months looking over reviews, figuring out which review site was sponsored and effectively biased, wading through the marketing and reading forum post upon forum post to ultimately wind up with this camera. I'm not even remotely rich. There's a mortgage, bills, debts to the eyeballs and deeply rooted issues with financing priorities - but alas. I've always been a DSLR man and shrugged at the mirror-less options until fairly recently. Let me tell any prospective buyers out there that this camera is a keeper, likely for life. It's worth every bloody penny and you will not be disappointed. The minor set backs are utterly dwarfed by it's pros.

[@svenbrode260]

OMG, what got you to Bury St Edmunds for this review? We could have met up for coffee and cake !

[@undefinablereasoning]

Btw guys if you haven't heard already: 14 Bit Raw Uncompressed stills are official for this camera. Unofficially there is a hack in the works that lets you run android on the camera to output 10 bit 422 via the hdmi port.