Sony a7RII Review - Hands-on, Iceland Landscapes, Weddings

[@crazyZayZay]

After hours of watching reviews, you finally help me decide Toby! Will be getting this tomorrow.

[@aubreyjk97]

Easily the most comprehensive A7R II review out there. Great job Toby!

[@kevincucci8788]

Toby, this is one of the best, if not the best video reviews of a camera I have watched in years. The information, quality, and effort put into this is amazing! I love your work, keep it up! Loyal fan here.

[@jimsaunders8222]

Great review. I've purchased a preowned A7Rii. Will receive it soon. Watching your review convinces me I made a good choice.

[@Txwhitacre]

In a nut shell your review is fair and spot on. I have both the A6000 and the A7rII and you did a fantastic job talking about the good and the bad. Me, I'm satisfied with mine for what it does for me.

[@studio213films8]

Toby. Just wanted to send you a quick note to tell you thank you for this review. Perfect balance of good with the bad with just enough information.

[@parikshitmadhukar1216]

Watching this in 2020, as I'm getting this now at 900$. This camera is still relevant now as image quality is awesome.

[@RickMentore]

The most in dept review of the R M2 so far! Very well done Toby. In the future consider doing you reviews out of the studio. You flow was proficient and you seemed relaxed when dispensing your know how.

[@KiranRaszka]

Can't believe you've dropped it already! +PhotoRec Toby

[@sevenine9195]

@12:28 Fn key, you can put 12 favs settings. Hover and use dial to adjust etc. Quick way to things you use most. Maybe not customize the entire menu system, maybe it's not perfect, but it's there to help your workflow.

[@rraul31]

oh man!The quality of your videos has improved remarkably. I have been watching your videos for 2 years now. Cheers!

[@brucejones6552]

Toby, your reviews are right on...just subscribed after following you for some time now...

[@photorectoby]

Thanks Bruce, I really appreciate that! are you a Sony owner?

[@mohammadrabiee7189]

A fair and nice review of the A7RII . Not seen like this before . Thanks Toby .

[@narasimhasujyoth]

Awesome review Toby! Answered all my questions.

[@fredgarvin316]

This should be the gold standard on how to do a youtube video review about anything! Straight to the points with clear detail about the subject. I can't really understand why there are any down votes.

[@photorectoby]

+Fred Garvin Thanks- I really appreciate that comment.

[@MDMiller60]

Just watched A7RII review and while heavily invested in Nikon equipment, wanted to follow the mirrorless stories. I found your overview and reviews extremely will organized and presented, more than any other of my popular youtube subscriptions, by a mile. I was impressed with your impartial experiences even though you had already bought the camera. So, I subscribed to your channel and look forward to seeing your other presentations. Michael, West Hartford, CT

[@photorectoby]

Thanks Michael! I really appreciate your comment.

[@leaningtower73]

Excellent review Toby!

[@EMB386]

Great review Toby, Sony is making great strides with the A7R II

[@ersway]

Fantastic no nonsense review! 👍

[@chadbarnierdesign7879]

This video looks ridiculously good! Love your videos, Toby :)

[@EmoEmu]

Looking forward to the battery tips video. I ran one wedding with my A7II alongside my 5DMII and it ran through 3 batteries and was on number 4 when I headed home.

[@photorectoby]

+The Emo Emu First easy tip is Airplane mode- Turn that on. really helps. More coming.

[@EmoEmu]

Thanks. :) I guess that's a catch-all for turning off anything like WiFi and such with one menu item.

[@nbj1485]

I bit the bullet and purchased an a7rii to replace my a7ii because of your videos! Thanks so much for your excellent reviews

[@Zwiesel66]

Thank you Toby for this very objective review.

[@ReneBeaudoin]

Great review Toby.

[@photorectoby]

+Rene Beaudoin Thanks!

[@jayteepics]

PhotoRec TV

[@djhogg901]

I have been using Sony Broadcast cameras since 1980 and the Betacam days, Sony makes great cameras.

[@stevey500]

They do make great cameras but it doesn't mean they are all good, lol. Of all camera system I have shot with in this form factor, their mirrorless series of cameras are the cheapest feeling, terrible buttons, lack of button, lack of proper design, etc... but, I deal with it as the overall internal abilities win me over.

[@smartwarden]

About the overheating, there are 2 modes to record 4k, Full frame mode and Super35 mode, there is also the bitrate, which is very important, 60mbps and 100mbps. The difference between the full frame mode and the super35 mode, besides the crop factor, is the line skipping when reading from the sensor otherwise known as pixel binning, in full frame mode the camera skips lines when it's recording 4k video, which is understandable considering this is a very big sensor with a massive resolution, if no pixel binning was allowed on full frame mode the camera would probably give up after 2 or 3 minutes of recording, people need to understand the huge amount of processing required for this. Now in super35 mode the camera doesn't skip lines when it's recording 4k which means the camera is processing so much more data than in full frame mode, add to that the 100mbps bitrate and push it even further with the ibis and the camera will simply not be able to handle all that for a long amount of time. Now, if dynamic range and low light are crucial then one should record in super35, otherwise full frame mode is more than enough and you will probably avoid overheating. If you must shoot in super35 INTERNALLY then you might consider shooting at 60mbps, again you'll probably avoid overheating. Many professional videographers are using this camera with external recorders shooting super35 4k at the highest bitrate, they get ProRes and they bypass that 29 minutes limit, and obviously no overheating while shooting a back up mp4 internally that they use for editing instead, it makes work in post a breeze. I hope this helps :)

[@photorectoby]

+Valère I knew some of that but your comment is the most in depth I have seen yet- thanks for sharing. I have now managed to make it over heat twice. once while trying(left screen closed, super 35 and held in hand to make sure IBIS was working hard. Took about 35 minutes.) Today I was not in super35 but IBIS was on and AF-C - only went about 16 minutes in a 75F degree room not in any direct sunlight. So that was a little more surprising/disappointing. Overall it should still work fine for me but I don't like the randomness of it. I should have lots more to say after travel later this month - I will be in Greece- current forecast is sunny and 90F each day.

[@Geebax2]

Thank your for the review, can you please say which lens you use most with the camera?

[@zackjohnson94]

Great review!

[@germandohrmann7893]

Great review, thanks.

[@annamcg928]

I love mine! I bought it for wedding low light capabilities. The ISO handling is amazing. I've always love Sony. I switched to Nikon a few years ago and everytime I used it I would miss my Sony alpha. I agree with the 1300 pics and 2 1/2 battery for a 12 hr wedding lol. For the reviews I don't know if I've heard anyone mention how huge of a memory card you will need and a faster one also. But if all I have to complain about is the 42 MP then that's really not much to complain about lol. Thanks for your wonderful review!!

[@BillyInnes]

great review toby. probably the best a7r11 review out there. sony should be all ears.

[@PrabhuSukumaran1967]

Great review as usual. I am really conflicted between Sony A7 R II and Canon 5D Mark IV after deciding to move from entry level SLR (760D) to PRO. I do have 3 Canon lenses already. However, I see from your review that the autofocus is fantastic in Sony but still confused. Suggestions are welcome to help me decide.

[@morshednassertito5547]

The Review is Awesome and Usefull...

[@mtbmike9866]

Nice review. Love the camera but i really hate the idea of using adaptors for my 24-70/70-200 2.8 zooms. Makes it look/handle terribly awkward. I'll pick one up in 6 months or so when the price drops a bit

[@T-Slider]

A very solid, straight to the point review! Fair and evenhanded. And like all your reports, this one too bristles with sincerity and honesty. Keep up the good work. Thanks.

[@T-Slider]

+Joe A7Rii Toby, one area you didn't mention was the awesome and blisteringly fast manual focus abilities with focus peaking and magnification features. I believe these features would be of significant interest to people using adapters. Just to put it in perspective, I suggest you head out with your adapters and spend an entire day using only manual focus so you really get into it and fully appreciate how fast and easy it is. And this does work with any old lens you throw on it.

[@ekphotography]

+Joe A7Rii I am a Canon user, but agree with you 100%. I have the A7sII for video and focus peaking with manual lens is awesome!!! Makes me want to go old school and use the loxia lens for full manual focusing!! It is very accurate and fun!!! Just wish Sony would put usb 3.0 so I could shoot tethered in studio and I would dump my Canon's in a heart beat!!! Hopefully they put it in the next A7r series!!!!

[@chntan]

This review was exactly what I was looking for! Great job! // Swedish subscriber

[@OLPCreative]

Great review.

[@photorectoby]

+Orange Line Project Thank you!

[@MaximumDiver]

Awesome review and it even include a drop test! hehe Hope your camera still works fine! :) Thanks again for sharing the info!

[@photorectoby]

+MaximumDiver It still works a few months later :) Thanks!

[@Vikingdescendent]

SmallRig cages are best for avoiding damage such as the dropping of a camera. A small investment that can save the day.

[@donovanclarke3826]

what's your vlogging setup please?

[@philipcunio4089]

You can push the fn button to lock the wheel so you won't change iso

[@markwang77]

so does this mean the sony a7r II is your primary 'goto' camera for your photography or are you still evaluating a possible transition? btw, great review - you're one of the best speakers on youtube. you articulate your points in a clear and concise manner.

[@joelcleare]

At what print size can you see the difference between 5diii and Sony A7rii ?? Print quality should be the primary reason buying a pro camera.

[@ivanovichbiggenden8996]

Great Review, I will probably get a second hand one in the future when they drop in price, I had the A7r pig of a camera, looks like they have addressed most of the problems it had Thanks for your time.... Always Informative with no BS

[@LeClark]

Well done and your pictures are great! =)

[@audreygoforth2892]

just bought a A7r11 .thank you for the review! would love to see the battery saving u tube. one suggestion: say your name a few more times throw out the video so its easy to find you and get to know your name. I still don't know it with out spending time looking for it.

[@scottjohnson3385]

I really enjoyed your thoughts on the camera and was impressed with your video. Please check in every now and then to let us know how you continue to work with your camera and what your experiences are.

[@photorectoby]

+Scott Johnson I am still VERY happy with this camera for travel, landscape photography!

[@gardnerhamilton]

good solid review i had this and it got stolen last week nice to see what im missing

[@mexxian007]

the look of your video is really great. it would be interesting to see if you mention which camera the video is shot with. did you use any reflector to get that extra illumination on your face.

[@photorectoby]

+mexxian007 filmed with the Gh4 - No reflectors used. Profile shot was filmed with 5D Mark III. You can see we were really starting to lose the light at the end of the video and I am not great at grading/color matching between the two cameras.

[@theluckylott]

thanks man! this was really helpful! are the ISO's for video really as good as people say?

[@SMolurus]

Great review! Thanks for sharing! Here's something for your upcoming videos. I was wondering if you heard of Petzval lenses? They remade the Petzval 85mm f/2.2. Comes in Nikon and Canon mount. Would you kindly please consider a review ? Thanks and sorry for my english.

[@photorectoby]

+Cat Chewer The guy that cuts my hair has the 50mm version (I think) it's a pretty lens. Not sure if I will review - maybe. Thanks.

[@nagol5178]

I know part of the camera is having a smaller camera. However, I would buy the battery grip for weddings and not use it when you want the camera to be small. The battery grip with it in airplane mode, you should be able to get through a wedding without changing the battery. If you do have to change it, you won't have to worry about thinking about it as much. The Sony glass is a different experience on the A7R. As much as I love Canon glass, I know if I went Sony again I'd get Sony glass. The Zeiss glass is just so good. It was the best glass I ever used. You don't really need to spend too much. All you really need is a 16-35, 55mm 1.8, and then the Zeiss batis 85mm. I personally like a 135 for portraits, and I'm sure that's coming. Besides the wide angle, you do have to use primes instead of zooms unless you're okay with F/4. I believe I'd be happy with just those 3 lenses, and then 4 if they come out with a 135. When I'm away from Sony, I'm not a huge 50mm shooter, but the Sony 55mm Zeiss is so sharp, it's just too hard to not shoot with it. And considering there isn't a 24-70 2.8 zoom, you get the whole range with the 16-35, 55, and 85.

[@nankee8406]

+nagol5178 well i'm still using my canon 60d and take many fantasy photos and movies by it bu

[@elvis_chen]

Wow I don't see the 900% speed wording for the video recording part at the first glance...

[@PieterBreda]

Nice balanced review. I have always used Sony cameras and I really like them but I still can't find any logic in the menu. It is really due to an overhaul. After all the years using Sonys, I still can't figure out why did they did it the way they did. Confusing. What I missed was how you liked it with Sony native lenses.

[@photorectoby]

+Pieter Batenburg It was short and sweet - I said focus with sony native lenses is fantastic - matches or beats my 5D Mark III. Beyond that I will be sharing more soon but the upside- sony has a selection of SHARP lenses - REALLY sharp and well made. Downside - they are not cheap. I wouldn't say overpriced but certainly not cheap and when you look at competitors selection you see all these cheaper lenses and you get grumpy BUT what people aren't realising - This camera is comparable to the Canon 5DS/SR and those cameras come with a list of recommended lenses - the lenses on that list are limited and expensive.

[@PieterBreda]

True, I heard that. But what I meant was how you liked the Sony lenses. You know what bugs me about some reviews about this camera, (and it is not directed at you because you seem to be very balanced in everthing you say and besides you said it litterraly) is that it is too often about the camera in combination with an adapter and non native glass and not really about the camera itself. I surely can understand why this is important for pros who have tons of non native lenses. But there isn't a single reviewers who has criticism about how a Canon works with a Nikon lens and adapter (or the other way around). That being said. I completely agree with most of your criticism about Sony. The menu sucks, and the batterylife is sometimes depressing. I own both the A77 and the A6000 and I really like them.

[@T-Slider]

+Pieter Batenburg Yeah, I'm with you Pieter. Toby, how does the Canon 5DS/SR work with Sonly lenses? How fast is the focus with non-native lenses? LOL

[@MagnumoftheMountains]

+PhotoRec Toby , I love that a talented photographer from New England is making a splash in the camera world on KZbin! Your videos continue to impress. Out of curiosity, which cameras did you use to shoot this review?

[@photorectoby]

+Benjamin Gadberry Thanks Man! Direct shot of me talking and the brighter clips used in intro filmed with GH4. Darker, second angle was a 5D Mark III

[@prasanth2816]

i am planning to shoot a advertisement in sony a7r2.. is tat ok to display tat in theatre?

[@DisorderedUniverse]

can sony fix the messy menus with a firmware update?

[@photorectoby]

+Awaken They could....

[@CannabisTechLife]

Small snippit to people watching. While Toby probably goes through a LOT of Sony batteries, charging your device while using it puts a lot of stress on batteries and will kill them faster. Use when needed only. Great review by the way. Thank you for answering my questions about the adapters. Love the channel.

[@jordancruz9843]

The battery life is the only thing holding me back in getting this for 2023...is this still relevant for 2023? Will be using it for photography only. The latest Sony Cameras are out of budget.haha

[@dalibormrkic7808]

Great hands-on review, looking forward to more tech/how to add-ons For AF point selection, did you try to set C1/C2 button for AF selection and use it in combination with front and rear dial. Like in your sketch

[@photorectoby]

+Dalibor Mrkic I have not and I was back on my A7 review tonight and saw you had suggested that back then - I need to train myself but man I miss that little joystick.

[@AdamafEkenstam]

Really really great review! You answered all my questions in this video! Now I maybe have to sell both of my 5DMK3 ;)

[@MichaelMichael-og6th]

excellent video....

[@CalvinCai_Frisbee]

dat dust on the sensor on that b roll!!! nooooo

[@a1exsand]

2 years later and it's Sony with the recent amazing trackrecord. Innovating while Canon and Nikon fall even farther behind in mirrorless technology. Sony Alpha ftw

[@WeNeedRealMusic2]

Tobias, great video! Here we are a couple years later... would you still buy this same camera today? I am looking at it versus the A9. I have an A7II which does a fantastic job, but would like that extra density from that sensor.

[@DigitalSamTV]

nice review toby. is there any other camera out there that rivals this in terms of photo and video (i do both)

[@Metyletylhexanoat]

Great video! If i would by a new full frame camera today it would probably be a Sony A7 II/R. But i still want a better and cheaper adaptor so i can use my canon lenses on it. Metabones seems good but very expensive atm.

[@CGphotoOp]

Wait, so silent shutter photos don't look good?

[@aalmuhairi]

thx, you made me for sure not by sony yet. was thinking of xpro2 or sony.

[@DukeGledhill]

Great review as always... quick question, did you ever nail those AF point selection woes?

[@photorectoby]

No, they still give me trouble. Love the output of this camera but AF point selection is a weakness. You might want to watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH3VeZaVadSgeNk

[@DukeGledhill]

+PhotoRec Toby Thank you. I love the camera (switched from 5dmkiii) but the AF point selection does drive me a bit nuts. Mostly rely on the camera figuring out things for itself but sometimes it just gets it wrong.... maybe the a7riv will have a joystick or touchscreen :) for now, i shall keep playing :D thanks for the reply (and the videos).

[@dwilliamhood]

I couldn't see... which adapter are you using to incorporate Canon lenses into your workflow and how was the quality? Any drawbacks?

[@smartwarden]

This is some serious videography Toby, congratulations. Did you manually grade or did you use a LUT ?

[@photorectoby]

+Valère my better 1/2, Christina did most of the grading and she did it manually. We are noobs at this.

[@smartwarden]

+PhotoRec Toby Wow ! She did an amazing job, may I suggest using a LUT so that you get the same colors from both angles, it won't look like you were using 2 cameras. You're both very talented :)

[@braydenconaghan6762]

Whats the song called. Sounds familiar but just cant put my finger on it? Cheers

[@togitom]

Great Review!! Just watch your music level and the speaking voice level. They are way off!! :)

[@EnnTomi1]

and powerbank should be compatibale with all dslrs and mirrerless cameras ...

[@anilv1822]

Hi, your videos are very helpful for learning photography. I like to ask you a favour, is it possible you can help to get a post session on KZbin on sun glare photography. I know it is possible with softwares,but I like to know if same can be done without editing in softwares. Sorry as my question is not related to this video. Thanks for your valuable camera tips.

[@WonderlandUnited]

So many reviewers out there. Especially when it comes to photography. All I can say is that 90% of it garbage! Having said that I am happily subscribed to your channel! Short, sweet and to the point. Great balance of subjective and objective, pleasant editing etc... Great job! Thank you.

[@BJJandBS]

Gotta have a joystick for focus point selection. Do the newer sonys have that?

[@photorectoby]

Yes they do.

[@garystephenarias3825]

great video

[@jamestarry4814]

Agree with this completly Toby. This has been surprising to me. I wasnt expecting to like this camera as much as I have, but after a week of using for work-its been superb. Been super happy with the menu's-although theres a few weird placings- the tilt screen, in built IS... so many pluses. The RAW files are fine (not noticed any horrid issues as theres been suggested) and using it with the Canon lenses has been ace-16-35 is very fast, even my 70-200 has been fine (top end is slower-as you say). Couple of niggles, battery (obviously).... it would take a lot now for me to go back to Canon in forseeable future

[@photorectoby]

+James Tarry Nice! Is it good enough to start selling your canon gear? And start buying Sony lenses?

[@jamestarry4814]

PhotoRec Toby Hmmm. Maybe a prime in the future... theres still something about the L's that I like too much, that and the cost of the Zeiss'!

[@ErmisAnargyrosAvgoustidis]

nice review..thanks, i need your opinion for adapter, cause im coming from Canon 5dsr and i want to use my lenses and sigma 20mm 1.4 for Canon. also your recomendetion for Sony landscape lenses.. Do u believe that i have to wait for another model in future? or to go now for a7rii?

[@fjstange.]

Hello +Toby, you do a very good job with your tutorials . I need a advice , I have the sony a7s, and i need to bay a photo camera , have in mind the mark II canon 1DX , sony a7rii, the Nikon d5 or if the rumor is true the nikon d850. (or perhaps some other ?) Has used the camera to fashion photography , Studio photography , portraits , weddings , landscapes photography , sports , cars , etc. I get the question , whether the 1DX 20mp or d5 be enough. and i want to have the alternative to make crops without losing much quality. Beforehand thank you very much.

[@JonniArmani]

Great tutorials ,)

[@SagunManandhar]

Awesome !!! Thanks so much for this video. BTW, can you also do a review on GH5 from photography perspective by any chance ? Cause I'm more inclined toward gh5 and I want to do some photography as well. Any suggestions would also be a great help. :)

[@kahyyamdavis7783]

I just bought this camera now in 2021 next GEN was the Fuji 50 S

[@stephenpartridge686]

What adaptor is that? Is it good for wide angle lenses such as the 16-35 f4L?

[@JasonChambersPhoto]

Great review, tempted to make the Canon - Sony Change…..

[@thorrensmart]

Is there any way to adjust the exposure while the (back button) focus is pressed? I can't seem to find a way to scroll the shutter wheel or anything while in focus. This is helpful in continuous focus for moving subjects changing from a dark scene to a bright one or vice versa. Apparently you can't do this with the a7rii and you can only dial your exposure without focusing. I hope I'm wrong.

[@photorectoby]

Set your ISO to auto - let it adjust for you, it does a great job.

[@CatherineNueraRosario]

i wondering to know which 70-200mm lens IS THE BEST and have better performance in general with the A7RII ,canon 70-200 f2.8 ii or sony 70-200 ssm ii?, is there anybody knew about it please ??

[@jonagoldd]

Hi Toby,Today i went to shoot for the first time in RAW. I want to open the files now but windows 10 won't let me. Do you know how i can open the pictures i took? Thanks :)

[@xeo2f]

great review thanks for the informational videos, i'm new to Sony gear and i keep reading mix reviews for comparable lenses, wondering if you can recommend one, I'm mostly shooting rocky landscapes mostly cloudy and wet, so i need a wide angle sharp lens i'm currently using Vario-Tessar TE 16-70 mm F4 ZA OSS not too happy with it for what i'm doing.

[@photorectoby]

+Fernando Gonzalez Shooting with a6000 or? The 16-70 is a crop lens. The 24-70 f/4 is FE (full frame) but honestly it isn't that different from your 16-70 quality wise. Why aren't you happy with current lens?

[@xeo2f]

my focus range is not quite accurate or i feel like i'm compromising to what it is not getting the sharpness i'm looking for in my DOF

[@Elmercuaton]

do u think this is worth of your money? i have sony A6000 but am not really really like it.

[@CodeTravelwithRizwan]

Is this a knock out punch to canon and nikon? I think refree is counting 1, 2 , 3 , 4 . . .

[@photorectoby]

+MOHD Rizz Canon and Nikon are big, BIG giants - this is certainly painful, maybe knocked down but don't count them out... yet.

[@davidhunternyc1]

Just discovered your videos. I want to purchase the Sony A7Sll but I'm totally in love with the Profoto B1's TTL features and Profoto does not yet support Sony. I am curious to hear your thoughts of the A7Rll as a primary wedding camera and how you made it work with off-camera lighting. Wanting to move up from my Fuji X100S I'm still stuck, Sony or Nikon?

[@photorectoby]

+davidhunternyc I am talking to Phottix about their offereings for off camera flash systems with this camera, you are right - options are limited which make this camera challenging for full wedding photography. SO far I have only been using mine without flash though we hardly use flashes at weddings. Nikon is still at this time a more complete system and the Nikon D750 is fantastic value.

[@davidhunternyc1]

+PhotoRec Toby Thank you so much Toby. Yes, I may just have to pull the trigger on the D750. Love this camera and really want to use it with Profoto TTL. I still have time to wait and see if Profoto will support Sony.

[@whoeverwhoever400]

A full frame lens-interchangeable camera that fits into my laptop bag. O yeah....

[@himalayan_stroller]

Dear Toby Sir, I am about to purchase this camera. Can you please recommend a flash compatible with Sony A7R II. I have to shoot a wedding at night. What shall one buy? An External flash or off camera flash if one is going to shoot a wedding??

[@photorectoby]

+Saun Wild The only system I know that is really compatible with Sony right now is Phottix

[@TerryHenson]

Good review, but I would have liked to see a whole lot more photo samples.

[@photorectoby]

+TerryHenson It's always a little funny to me when people make a big deal about seeing photos in a KZbin review - this is a 42mp camera KZbin doesn't do a great job of showing you what's possible. I have sample photos linked under the video and here tobiasgelston.com/iceland2015

[@TerryHenson]

+PhotoRec Toby it's just my two cents man. I do like you and your reviews but I do feel seeing beats talking. but either way...please keep up the good work :)

[@TerryHenson]

PhotoRec Toby Dan Watson has a great review up (not comparing), he shot in 4k and watching the pictures in 4k gives you somewhat an idea of the awesomeness of this camera. Was just wanting to help you brother :)

[@TheDarkKnight03]

what about the overheating issue ?

[@photorectoby]

+Ahmad Younis I guess you didn't watch the whole video?

[@TheDarkKnight03]

yeah sorry i still didn't have time to watch i should have commented later

[@Joshua-th4vn]

I could get this and some cheap glass or a D750 with amazing glass, a Billingham Bag, and probably some other accessories while still having money left over. I shoot landscapes primarily so I can't decide.

[@photorectoby]

+Reach If you don't mind the slightly larger size of the D750. . . I think that plus amazing glass is the way to go.

[@Joshua-th4vn]

PhotoRec Toby But now the 80D is announced and is also an appetizing camera for me.

[@floex831]

Sounds like the Sony does everything my Nikon does the way I use it. I don't do video and I can shoot a wedding in well under 1000 images meaning that I can and usually do shoot a wedding with one battery. I am only interested in IQ and my Nikon does amazing. One day I will go with mirrorless but with all those drawbacks, Sony still has a lot of evolving to do IMO.

[@photorectoby]

+floex831 Yep, If I was shooting Nikon I would likely be less tempted by mirorrless, The D750 is a near perfect DSLR in my opinion with Wifi, articulating screen, decent size and capabilities. I don't love how it feels in the hand but still overall excellent.