Sony A80J OLED TV Review - 80% to 90% of A90J's Picture Quality

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@Kingepticon
@Kingepticon 3 жыл бұрын
I went back and forth for a month deciding whether to get the C1, G1 or A80J. I decided that picture quality was by far the most important criteria for me. Everything else was a distant second. I wanted the best picture out of the box because I wasn't going to pay someone to calibrate my set. Despite being a heavy gamer who owns all the consoles, I decided to go with the A80J because of Sony's superior XR processor. I've had the TV for a few weeks now and I still get a big ass grin on my face every time I turn it own.
@stergiovalente
@stergiovalente 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! Exactly why I chose it. Games look phenomenal on it
@retrogiant3382
@retrogiant3382 3 жыл бұрын
How has image retention been? Was a little let down to see, at least in his review, that it held it longer than the C1. Netflix and regular 1080p updscaling look really good? I’m coming from a TCL R635 in the living room and will be replacing a 2017 TCL P607 in the bedroom with possibly the A80J. Hoping to be a drastic difference in quality than even the R635. Will easily be better than the P607 but hoping to get that “this is what I’ve been missing” feeling from all content.
@TotallyJoel
@TotallyJoel 3 жыл бұрын
@@stergiovalente My series x looks great.
@stergiovalente
@stergiovalente 3 жыл бұрын
@@retrogiant3382 I notice it once in awhile but it's not very often. Depends on the circumstances. Definitely got that wow moment when upgrading and it hasn't left. Probably comparable to when I got my first lcd coming from crt. Also the upscaling is superb.
@ernestohernandez9370
@ernestohernandez9370 3 жыл бұрын
the picture quality is very similar on both the lg c1 and sony a80j.
@WARDofLORE
@WARDofLORE 2 жыл бұрын
Broke the screen on my 55" Panasonic Plasma during a move. I was devastated. Picked the A80 as one of the finalists as a replacement. Informative Videos like these reaffirmed my decision to buy it. The A80K is out but the A80J is currently $400cdn less. What an incredible TV.
@mr_ion
@mr_ion 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Vincent! After 2 years of watching your videos, I'm finally decided to buy the A80J :)
@sparx2391
@sparx2391 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of getting this TV, have you got your one yet?
@mr_ion
@mr_ion 3 жыл бұрын
@@sparx2391 Nope. Waiting on the next price decrease and availability. Currently they are out of stock everywhere in the NL
@socratese5
@socratese5 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great TV guys you’re going to really enjoy it 👍🏽
@michaelgreenbaum3257
@michaelgreenbaum3257 3 жыл бұрын
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@milanklco
@milanklco 2 жыл бұрын
me too after years watching of videos feel safe with A80J 65" for 1600Euro 😋 without VAT from other seller was even 1450 Euro, hard to resist great TV for great price 😉😁
@mgaming7
@mgaming7 2 жыл бұрын
after calibration, this is the best Value on the market. The A90J is too expensive (imo) and the A80J picture is stunning. I smile every single time I watch anything on my A80J. Love it.
@wesley-q6n
@wesley-q6n 2 жыл бұрын
What size of the A80J do you have? Does it have the semi gloss finish and how does t perform
@DoubleO7-11
@DoubleO7-11 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! Been waiting for this review. Thank you Vincent!
@Matthewjk23
@Matthewjk23 3 жыл бұрын
Me to. Vincent reviews are the best.
@thundersprint2965
@thundersprint2965 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I was looking for this review and you just uploaded it! I clicked very close you uploaded. Excellent job as always!
@joeychm
@joeychm 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have seen many in my research to find the right TV for a room that gets a fair amount of light. The A80CJ (Costco) leaves me amazed every time I see high definition, especially HDR, content. Thanks for the review with a tremendous amount of useful information.
@TheLfp09
@TheLfp09 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for the review. Picked the A80J and really happy with it. Would be great if you can upload a PS5 optimised settings video later down the line. Great content as usual. Keep up the good work.
@ronnie9891
@ronnie9891 3 жыл бұрын
Does the A80J auto dim when watching sports because of the static logo?? Becoz Vincent said that’s what happens on the A90J
@jeromepinto9879
@jeromepinto9879 3 жыл бұрын
I have the A80J for 1 month.... And I really love it! 😍
@wking8
@wking8 3 жыл бұрын
Bought the 77 inch a month ago. Had the LG C8 prior and it's no contest. Sonys processing is unbelievable. So happy with the purchase.
@amvlover272
@amvlover272 3 жыл бұрын
The c1 motion is just as good ur comparing a like 4yr old tv to a new one.
@wking8
@wking8 3 жыл бұрын
@@amvlover272 when was I taking about motion? The picture processing is better. Also, the motion is fine. Someone's been watching the dipshit quantum tv I see..
@NightmareonAnyStreet_
@NightmareonAnyStreet_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@wking8 but you're still comparing a 4 year old tv to a new model regardless though. With that being said I too think Sony picture quality is better than even the G1 I have now but as Vincent said it seems the Sony has some type of undefeatable edge enhancements going on under the hood wit these sonys. I love the Sony picture regardless though 😆
@stergiovalente
@stergiovalente 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightmareonAnyStreet_ it's a nice effect most of the time tho. Not on all content. I like to think of it as fake 8k lol. But Sony is good at that kind of thing.
@wking8
@wking8 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightmareonAnyStreet_ The a80j is this year's model. Am I missing something? I have both the c8 and a80j. I compared the C1 to the a80j extensively before buying. I am more concerned with PQ watching movies than games, that's why I went with Sony.
@josephsciortino1404
@josephsciortino1404 3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! I always know where to go to find honest and solid technical feedback on TV's.....Thanks as always.....Great Review!! A+++++
@dominictomasino5198
@dominictomasino5198 2 жыл бұрын
Sciortino from Cattolica Eraclea?
@josephsciortino1404
@josephsciortino1404 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominictomasino5198 no. NY.
@josephsciortino1404
@josephsciortino1404 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominictomasino5198 My family tree comes from Sicily/Palermo......
@dominictomasino5198
@dominictomasino5198 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephsciortino1404 me too from Cattolica Eraclea my town is full of Sciortino's. And in Montreal Canada there s alot of Sciortino"s
@josephsciortino1404
@josephsciortino1404 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominictomasino5198 wow. I didn’t know.
@b0ober
@b0ober 3 жыл бұрын
getting mine in on wed, i'm super excited !
@arnabbanik2515
@arnabbanik2515 3 жыл бұрын
What size
@tracer073
@tracer073 3 жыл бұрын
Got mine a week ago haven’t pulled it out the box and set it up yet
@arnabbanik2515
@arnabbanik2515 3 жыл бұрын
@tracer073 why
@b0ober
@b0ober 3 жыл бұрын
@@arnabbanik2515 65''!
@arnabbanik2515
@arnabbanik2515 3 жыл бұрын
@@b0ober congrats
@Sup3riorr
@Sup3riorr 3 жыл бұрын
A tutorial of somewhat calibrated settings would be nice
@lonniefarmer7067
@lonniefarmer7067 3 жыл бұрын
His format is calibration being done upon unboxing. Find that and take good notes!
@Jordanfiend361
@Jordanfiend361 3 жыл бұрын
This tv is almost perfect otb. The one that needs calibration immediately is the LG C1 as the colors are way off otb
@bh69videa
@bh69videa 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jordanfiend361 not perfect - it is too cold
@milanklco
@milanklco 2 жыл бұрын
@@bh69videa that's right I own one 😉😃
@stevenrodriguez9655
@stevenrodriguez9655 2 жыл бұрын
@@bh69videa yes and I also bumped the color up to 55 from 50 to give flesh tones a little more life.
@jaybyrdcybertruck1082
@jaybyrdcybertruck1082 2 жыл бұрын
we just bought the a80j 77 inch Oled and it arrives on Wed! cant wait! will be using your reviews to calibrate it ourselves :)
@Kung_Fu_Kenny
@Kung_Fu_Kenny 3 жыл бұрын
I only game on PS5, so A80J was an easy choice. Sony’s accuracy out of the box is legendary. 4K60 and 4K120 both look great. Input lag is solid. Picture quality is best in class.
@ernestohernandez9370
@ernestohernandez9370 3 жыл бұрын
yeah that is awesome 👌. I went with the c1 77 because I have the ps5,Xbox series x and a sonos arc setup so I needed for then 2 hdmi2.1 ports. If sony had 4 hdmi2.1 ports I would of got the a80j.
@Kung_Fu_Kenny
@Kung_Fu_Kenny 3 жыл бұрын
@@ernestohernandez9370 You absolutely made the correct choice, given your need for the 2.1 ports. All four of the Sony and LG OLEDs this year are phenomenal. Enjoy your C1!
@ernestohernandez9370
@ernestohernandez9370 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kung_Fu_Kenny both are great tvs you can't go wrong with either tv. what hdmi cables do you use with your set up?
@ManuelMedellin.
@ManuelMedellin. 3 жыл бұрын
@@ernestohernandez9370 why is that a buying decider? Just unplugg and plug and switch, you don't play PS5 and Xbox at the same time, do you? Its not that much of a hassle to just unplugg the cables from TV.
@ManuelMedellin.
@ManuelMedellin. 3 жыл бұрын
and maybe there exists a adapter thingy where you can just plug 4 cables into it.
@TRADINGARMOR
@TRADINGARMOR 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Been watching for years. You made me dream of an OLED. I now have the A80J and it's a great display. The one thing I have a hard time deciding on is the peak luminance setting. Coming from Pioneer Elites and Sony HD CRTs, every setting but off seems kind of obnoxious to me. I can tell the display was meant to have it on though. Is there a reference to calibrate it with or is it something you just set by preference? Where did you set it during SDR calibration? I have the S&M UHD disc but I don't think there's any material to set peak luminance by. Any help would be appreciated greatly! Keep up the great work Vincent!
@gleam6370
@gleam6370 2 жыл бұрын
How is it 8 months later? And no burn in yet?
@TRADINGARMOR
@TRADINGARMOR 2 жыл бұрын
@@gleam6370 so far so good. No burn in. Still looks great.
@sjsphotog
@sjsphotog 2 жыл бұрын
check out the Keep it Classy Tech channel videos part 1 and 2 for the a90j/a80j he goes into all the detailed settings for all inputs and sources and modes
@rkgsd
@rkgsd Жыл бұрын
I'm not much of a game player, but I went with the LG C1 due to it being VRR ready BEFORE release, the completely glossy screen and having 4 HDMI 2.1 ports. I have no complaints about the video quality of KZbin, Netflix and Amazon Prime Video. I did make sure color temp was set to warm up 50.
@milanklco
@milanklco 2 жыл бұрын
thanks Vincent just ordered for 1600 Euro -45% off Black Friday deal - 65" A80J and I wrote Maciej to check possible calibration date in my house in Slovakia 🙂 to change mine plasma calibrated as well by Maciej. Thanks a lot for admirable job; that XR processor is this year doing wonders, in 3days TV will be delivered, feeling hyped 😁😉 greetings from Slovakia
@gbej1
@gbej1 3 жыл бұрын
So glad Sony has made it so I can "stuff my unit in between the legs”, thanks for pointing that out Vincent lol
@greeneye5977
@greeneye5977 3 жыл бұрын
My 2020 Sony A8H ethernet port recently stopped working after a bad storm. The wifi still worked though. I put in a warranty service repair and they ended up breaking the tv completely. Sony is now sending me a 2021 A80J as a replacement. I wasn’t entirely sure how I felt about it until watching this video. Thank you for putting my fears to rest.
@greeneye5977
@greeneye5977 2 жыл бұрын
@@skyform 65”. It’s not day and night in terms of picture quality but I do feel there’s a slight improvement in picture with the A80J. And I will also say that I am glad I received the 2021 because it’s fantastic.
@beantown1112
@beantown1112 3 жыл бұрын
Vincent - thanks for review. Debating between 77in A80J and 77 in LG G1. While G1 is more expensive, 5 year warranty helps a bit. Love to see you do a comparison of picture.
@tracer073
@tracer073 3 жыл бұрын
A80j it’s all you need
@a2.Milk85
@a2.Milk85 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vincent. Great review on the a80J.
@Sup3riorr
@Sup3riorr 3 жыл бұрын
Ive ordered this tv 77 inch 😁
@alexanderulv3886
@alexanderulv3886 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, in my country that TV is 75% more expensive than 77 CX, is it worth the extra money?
@Sup3riorr
@Sup3riorr 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderulv3886 i would never have bought it for the retailed price. I gave 3500$
@alexanderulv3886
@alexanderulv3886 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sup3riorr fair enough ;)
@ernestohernandez9370
@ernestohernandez9370 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderulv3886 wow 75% more to be honest no way it's worth that much more. the sony a80j us absolutely better than the cx no doubt it's a Good upgrade but 75% better no way.
@Gtcos
@Gtcos 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderulv3886 No.its not worth.
@kizamitsuki72
@kizamitsuki72 3 жыл бұрын
Seen 77 inch live yesterday, amazing TV
@Dallas-GTR-86
@Dallas-GTR-86 Жыл бұрын
I bought the A80J and the display and speakers blow my mind away I bought it last year and I just opened it up and wowsers I will keep this beast up and running as long possible 😅
@charlesmyers8150
@charlesmyers8150 3 жыл бұрын
"Stuff your unit between the legs" Vincent 's reviews are the most detailed and informative of them all. Great review even though I don't understand most of it , if he says it's a good tv, it is.
@YaMomsOyster
@YaMomsOyster 2 жыл бұрын
He is good….and most of it’s over my head too!
@gandalffantom9613
@gandalffantom9613 3 жыл бұрын
Vinnie! When you review the Panasonic Jz2000 would you consider doing a separate sound test with an external subwoofer connected!? 🙏🏼 Think it’s going to be a real dealbreaker for those who may want the Jz1500 if they own a sound bar or separates system already. This would be the cherry on the top of a very eagerly awaited review🤞🏼
@julienl4686
@julienl4686 3 жыл бұрын
With a Sub the JZ2000 is surprising. I have it from yesterday morning and the the audio system is very good.
@gandalffantom9613
@gandalffantom9613 3 жыл бұрын
You have it already?!? This is an option that really interests me. You should do a review👍🏼
@julienl4686
@julienl4686 3 жыл бұрын
@@gandalffantom9613 Yes, I have it! WI'm really happy because the near black is perfect, no vertical banding at all. For the audio, I have connected it to a KEF T2, impressive sound for a TV! For the review, I should, but it takes a lot of time to do it well, I'm too perfectionist.
@jennifergala
@jennifergala 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I will get the C1 is a more complete package.
@ernestohernandez9370
@ernestohernandez9370 3 жыл бұрын
yeah I went with the c1 77 and it's great my main use is gaming and casual movies, streaming,sports. for gaming its the best tv.
@NightmareonAnyStreet_
@NightmareonAnyStreet_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickmar u smoking crack
@reviewforthetube6485
@reviewforthetube6485 3 жыл бұрын
Completely disagree the lg has gaming Sony has everything else these are televisions at the end of the day and Sony is more concerned with what produces that image there processing and I'll always go with a company that priorities there image over gaming features what's funny is I'm a damn gamer but I can grt a gaming monitor I can still use an a90j to game also vrr isn't here yet it should come and then what happens then it's got everything besides 120fps dolby vizioon which isn't even close to actually needed for gaming lol
@NightmareonAnyStreet_
@NightmareonAnyStreet_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@reviewforthetube6485 the lg is the more complete package no matter how u try to spin it. It produces a great picture and has everything for gaming at an affordable price (for alot not all) How can u sit there wit a str8 face and disagree is beyond me 😂 if u want the best image of course sony is king but if we talm bout complete package it ain't no way lg doesn't have that crown
@reviewforthetube6485
@reviewforthetube6485 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightmareonAnyStreet_ my point is you can look at it both ways. Yes lg is a very complete package. It still doesn't best it in image quality so that's part of Sony package sony still has hdmi 2.1 you can still game. I was just saying for enthusiasts the soby will still be the more complete package. Since it does best it out in that area. As ee say the gaming features are lacking on the sony do to vrr missing in comparison to lg that is. Well in image quality the lg is lacking in comparison to the sony. I get where you are coming from man. I just feel for some the sony is the better move and could eb seen as the better package. I will say this the lg c1 and g1 are outstanding tvs and so are the a80j and a90j I think they are all incredible. I also feel yoy can't go wrong with either.
@sheshechic
@sheshechic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vincent. It seems that the time has finally come for me to switch to OLED, but still I'm anxiously awaiting your review of the X90J. My next panel will be replacing a ST60 and I know it's expected for people to move to OLED from plasma, but there are issues I needed resolved first. I currently have a Sony 900E in my office and it is wonderful. So... I'm left waiting on you, since I'm not a huge Rtings fan. lol
@Mind_of_MATT
@Mind_of_MATT 3 жыл бұрын
I went from a 55" ST30 to a 75" X900F. I've been happy with it though I knew what I was getting into. I went for the 75" size I could afford & at the time the 75" OLEDs where just out of my price range. I wanted the size for those letterbox films.
@internetuser-os5hw
@internetuser-os5hw 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought this bad boy on Black Friday I can NOT wait to see it the first time.
@RawWrath
@RawWrath 2 жыл бұрын
Me too I'm stupid excited
@833evad
@833evad 3 жыл бұрын
Hi again Vincent. I'm in the group of people that doesn't like the matte coating on this TV (looking for 55"). How would you compare this TV and the G1?? For me G1 is even cheaper than a80j.
@jeffreytsao
@jeffreytsao 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently every EU-based A80J reviews I’ve seen shows Sony for some reason use the old panel for A80J, however in other markets like US & China, A80J actually has the newer EVO panel with much higher HDR10 peak brightness (my D65 calibrated 77A80J can reach 780+ Nits on 5% window, 740+ Nits on 10% window and 170+ Nits full screen), personally I think 77A80J with conventional anti-glare coating is infinitely close to A90J while being the best large-sized premium OLED TV on the market in terms of price-performance ratio.
@hdtvtest
@hdtvtest 3 жыл бұрын
Just like the 77C1, all 77A80J have the latest, more efficient OLED panel from Guangzhou.
@Jackp2003
@Jackp2003 2 жыл бұрын
So does this mean the HDR peak brightness can reach LG G1 levels?
@milanklco
@milanklco 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jackp2003 probably not; its rumour 🙂 more likelly a littttttle but yes 😉 it has more clear vigneting and vertical banding in near blacks though, reported as well in practice by many users, thanks to EVO
@Obscurus41
@Obscurus41 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for your review to make up my mind about my next purchase. You confirmed that this is the better buy over the c1 for me. Many thanks.
@tracer073
@tracer073 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of other Chanel confirms that but only if you are a big gamer you might want to consider c1
@Obscurus41
@Obscurus41 3 жыл бұрын
@@tracer073 I game a lot on PlayStation consoles. I still prefer the a80j for its superior picture and sound.
@McobraR
@McobraR 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, your videos helped me to go with the 77 A80J!
@markman090
@markman090 Ай бұрын
I love my a80J. Sure it might not be the most punchy HDR experience but it's great value and they made them for years, mine has a manufacture date of Februrary 2023 for a 2021 model.
@vlcheish
@vlcheish 3 жыл бұрын
*going on hunger strike until A90J vs JZ2000 video comes out* 🍕 😮
@stugtodd2778
@stugtodd2778 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly I think we all already know that the Panasonic is going to win with it’s eyes closed. I think a lot of people had higher hopes for this A90J.
@LEMON48
@LEMON48 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah , maybe in october.
@vlcheish
@vlcheish 3 жыл бұрын
@@stugtodd2778 Maybe but one publication(I think from Norway) ranked the A90J over the JZ2000 in their review
@stugtodd2778
@stugtodd2778 3 жыл бұрын
@@vlcheish Oh wow really. What publication I’d like to read it bro ? Well if it’s true then Panasonic must have seriously dropped the ball from their last generation top of the line OLED I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
@vlcheish
@vlcheish 3 жыл бұрын
​@@stugtodd2778 m3.idg.se/2.1022/1.752915/panasonbic-tx-jz2000e "No longer superior image" "This feels like a middle year for Panasonic in the TV race. The lead in image quality they had in 2020 has become more or less eaten up. Of the two top-class TVs we have tested so far, we prefer the Sony A90J, with its smoother, nicer scaling and the best motion handling on the market. There is plenty of quality on those points here too, but not enough to maintain the leading position. The main news in JZ2000 is about quality of life improvements for users who just want a good TV without unnecessary fuss."
@Kishoreuvoyt
@Kishoreuvoyt 3 жыл бұрын
Great summary of A 80J! Thanks. Despite all the progress, these high end TVs do not support the gigabit ethernet port. The ethernet speed (not the wi-fi speed) that these TVs support, is limited to 100Mbps only. Since the ethernet connection is more reliable and stable than the wi-fi connection, it is always preferable to stream 4k and above content through the ethernet connection. When do you think we will see TV manufacturers implementing gigabit ethernet ports?
@lonniefarmer7067
@lonniefarmer7067 3 жыл бұрын
It was my impression that an adapted Ethernet/USB connection is the work around for that. It is an under $20 solution.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 2 жыл бұрын
WiFi faster than Gigabit ethernet port now this TV and A90J use Wi-fi ax aka WiFi 6 and Bluetooth 5.2
@ricardodiaz6187
@ricardodiaz6187 2 жыл бұрын
I got a usb Ethernet adapter. Averaging 300/300.
@ЕвгенийиОльгаЛебединец
@ЕвгенийиОльгаЛебединец 3 жыл бұрын
After checking your content include this, stop my choise at 77a80j. Awesome tv
@roccobruno8027
@roccobruno8027 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome review and good to know that the A80J is a great alternative. It's curious that the A80J has better "out of black" gradation compared to the A90J?
@majestic7768
@majestic7768 3 жыл бұрын
That is a marketing scheme.
@6SpeedTA95
@6SpeedTA95 3 жыл бұрын
Another superb video. This channel is FTW
@johnlopez2150
@johnlopez2150 3 жыл бұрын
Not bad, Vince. If you need a little help with innuendos in the future, let me know. I've gotten pretty good with those over the years 😏
@PowerNapMan
@PowerNapMan 3 жыл бұрын
Can not wait for the X90J and especially the X95J - keep up the good work and have a nice rest of the weekend :)
@miked8157
@miked8157 3 жыл бұрын
With the decrease in price would you still recommend the A80j over the C1 for picture quality? Is it that drastic?
@AFlyingCookieLOL
@AFlyingCookieLOL 3 жыл бұрын
Took the A80J for picture quality and also use it for light gaming
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 2 жыл бұрын
@@AFlyingCookieLOL A80J cab do everything C2 does in gaming November 2021 VRR ALLM 4K 120HZ Dolby Vision but not G and FreeSynch
@TheoriginalChuckJ
@TheoriginalChuckJ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video, very informative. I just bought this TV "listed as brand new" on the weekend here in Toronto Canada. But I would like to ask somethings that I am confused about. First, after watching yours and other unboxing videos on You-tube I noticed that Sony TV boxes mostly had 2 nylon straps around the cardboard box that needed to be off. My TV box did not have these two nylon straps. Second, in the unboxing videos I watched including yours I noticed 2 cardboard releases at the bottom of the box that are designed to allow you to pull the box straight up and off the TV. My A80J box did not have these releases at the bottom of the box. I had to cut away the box and lift the TV itself out of the bottom of the box. Lastly, I noticed that in some videos there were two label stickers on the TV screen to peel off. My TV only had one sticker label, the yellow energy guide sticker. As you have likely figured out now, I am concerned that I got tricked into buying a refurbished TV. If this were true, it would be shocking as the retailer I bought this TV from has been in business for 65 years and has been an official certified Sony dealer for most of that time. My question is, since these TV's are built in different regions is it possible that my issues are simply a variation in packaging standards. The TV does look great and seems to work fine, but I would still feel cheated if I have been sold a refurbished TV rather than a new one. If you can shine any light on my issue that would be great. Thanks..........
@peterwilson5082
@peterwilson5082 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent Screen burn worrys me with the OLED, which would you recommend the X90j or theQN95 or the A80J all in 55". Regards Peter.
@amriksandhu7146
@amriksandhu7146 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent. I wanted to ask you about the 77 inch Sony A80J and A84J. The only picture difference between the two models is that the Rich Colour Enhancer feature being added to the A84J. I've heard that this feature only actually works in the Vivid picture mode (which I won't use). I wanted to ask you opinion as to which model is better or is the picture quality exactly the same on both?
@d17mop
@d17mop 2 жыл бұрын
Get the jz1500. Same spec as jz2000 without the speaker upgrade.
@richd5422
@richd5422 3 жыл бұрын
Hi ,I'm getting confused now with this TV,some reviewers are saying motion stutter is awful and this reviews says it's one of the best.im ready to buy and just want to ask people who have this TV.Thanks Vincent you are one of the best.
@ahmadijaz2919
@ahmadijaz2919 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 77 inch a80j and I feel the stutter when all motion interpolation features are off. I'm not sure what LG C1 is like but seems like they give the user more control over the level of interpolation. Sony only gives you 3 different settings under motion interpolation & black frame insertion. As I said, I haven't compared but I have a hard time finding a happy medium between Stutter & SOE on the A80J. Maybe Im just more sensitive to stutter.
@richd5422
@richd5422 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadijaz2919 cheers for reply ,I purchased the a80j now but not yet received it,I think it's more to do with oled as all of them have trouble due to their instant response time.i was a toss up between the x90j full array or the a80j,I've never had an oled before so went for that and hope I'veade right decision
@ahmadijaz2919
@ahmadijaz2919 3 жыл бұрын
@@richd5422 the A80j is my first OLED too and im loving the picture quality so far. Maybe ill just get used to the motion as I also think I'm noticing it more because this is my first OLED. Not to mention the biggest tv I've ever bought.
@richd5422
@richd5422 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadijaz2919 I wished I could fit a 77 inch in lol,as I said Stutter is an oled problem and Sony is one of the best for motion etc...are you only seeing it on low frame rate content.?
@ahmadijaz2919
@ahmadijaz2919 3 жыл бұрын
@@richd5422 I don't have cable tv so I just use various tv apps. The worst one so far has been Netflix. Just a change from 1 to 2 for smoothness and it goes from stutter to SOE. For whatever reason for HBO Max & Prime video I have found the sweet spot for motion. As for content i would say anything fast moving or panning shots.
@gowfan357
@gowfan357 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent. Would you mind reviewing the new Qled lineup from TCL? I believe it's the C728? I am interested in their 2.1 functionality. They say they work better than last years Sony so I would be happy if you could confirm that. Thank you :)
@jhirn2957
@jhirn2957 2 жыл бұрын
Just pulled the trigger on this for $1350 on a bargain at amazon. $250 less than the C1 which made it kind of a no brainer. Excited for delivery.
@touch_the_sky
@touch_the_sky 3 жыл бұрын
@HDTVTest Vincent, if you had to do this comparison by percentage, how much % would be X90J LED to the A80J OLED in image quality? I'm trying to decide between the two, and I'm leaning towards the X90J because I will use it a lot with my computer and want to avoid image retention. Thank you.
@xbone8950
@xbone8950 2 жыл бұрын
Literally says in the title.
@touch_the_sky
@touch_the_sky 2 жыл бұрын
@@xbone8950 X90J is a different model 🙄
@XiLock_Alotx
@XiLock_Alotx 3 жыл бұрын
I am in LOVE with my LG C1 OLED, but do have to say this a very beautiful picture from Sony.
@ernestohernandez9370
@ernestohernandez9370 3 жыл бұрын
I have the c1 77 and it's been great love it looks amazing. I tried the upgraded doom eternal for next gen and wow the colors really pop nice with ray tracing and 60 fps.
@AFlyingCookieLOL
@AFlyingCookieLOL 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Sony - best choice ever made! Video and graphics work on PC with some gaming. And still climbing the ladder on league as a Diamond rank.
@Goenie2005
@Goenie2005 3 жыл бұрын
Epic info and review as always. Purchased the A80J. Can someone tell me the definition of a hardcore gamer though? I game a fair bit, but what is a hardcore gamer that needs crazy low input lag?
@fabrisony7729
@fabrisony7729 3 жыл бұрын
It's a nonsense speaking of hardcore gamers in relation to tvs, as they will always choose a monitor for several reasons. That said, Sony tvs behave excellently with games and have the best picture quality bar none. You made an excellent choice.
@TomlinsonHolman52583
@TomlinsonHolman52583 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently people care less about the fact that 2021 Sony TVs cannot properly display HDR @120Hz, than they care about the fact that 2020 Sony TVs cannot properly display resolution @120Hz? Vincent is the only one shedding light on the limitations of the MediaTek 5895 SoC.
@luispineda7464
@luispineda7464 3 жыл бұрын
I could care less about that. I don’t game at all… get an LG for that and call it a day.
@kamrhd
@kamrhd 3 жыл бұрын
@@luispineda7464 exactly lmao
@444chroma
@444chroma 3 жыл бұрын
@@luispineda7464 What will it take to get you to care less then?
@QuackEasy
@QuackEasy 3 жыл бұрын
Sony XR uses a newer chip, the MT 9950, hence the proper 4k 120 right out of the box compared to x900h. This new chip is the same one used in the new 2021 8k Samsung which run 4k 120hz hdr vrr just fine. It's definitely not the chip that's the problem. Sony is just lazy.
@TomlinsonHolman52583
@TomlinsonHolman52583 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuackEasy - That's incorrect. Vincent demonstrates in numerous videos (including this video @08:20) that Sony is still using the inferior MT5895 chip. The Sony XR processor helps to achieve proper native resolution @120Hz, however due to the limitations of the MT5895, no HDMI 2.1 Sony TV to date can properly resolve HDR @4K120Hz.
@juanmm9297
@juanmm9297 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting on the 950j
@aleksanderkozak5204
@aleksanderkozak5204 3 жыл бұрын
Vincent, what do you think about the picture quality of this model in comparison with Panasonic HZ 1000?
@its1me1cal
@its1me1cal 3 жыл бұрын
Great review thanks. So the A80J doesn’t have the new so called EVO panel like the A90J, in the US many reviews say it does? Is this going to be like the LG C1 where some have it and others don’t?
@swa99a10
@swa99a10 3 жыл бұрын
In the 77 inch it does I believe
@its1me1cal
@its1me1cal 3 жыл бұрын
@@swa99a10 Thanks hope that’s true as it’s the 77 inch I’m looking to buy
@ernestohernandez9370
@ernestohernandez9370 3 жыл бұрын
@@its1me1cal from what I understand seems like all the 77 inch a80j and c1 have them.
@busterboy7507
@busterboy7507 3 жыл бұрын
In another video in the comment section Vincent said it doesn't.
@xsvforce3335
@xsvforce3335 3 жыл бұрын
I am happy to see that A80J has better near black handling as I can not tolerate the A8H's terrible near black artifacts and gamma. Once I saw the terrible near black performance of the A90J, I ordered C1 as a replacement. Good to see the A80J might be an option.
@milanklco
@milanklco 2 жыл бұрын
a80j 65" has non Evo version stronger pink vigneting starting from 4% and down to 1% near blacks as well apearing vertical banding lines quite few , I consider Evo panel versions better in near blacks vigneting & vertical banding, mostly truth is like that . I have 1 month a80j 65" all is clean fabulous just sometimes near blacks pink tint in left upper corner appear, regarding vertical bands its rare and visible split second on panning near black shot and also rarelly :) whites are clean and bright colours too no DSE so better I keep panel, that little stronger tint left upper corner in near blacks is unfortunate , I wish it to be at least 50% lesser, its not strongest but above mild appearance rarelly of course 😃 next year all panels will start to be EVO I think great for near blacks
@milanklco
@milanklco 2 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Bennett it's pretty epic TV need to give Sony credit for A80J 🙂
@JoelsterG4k
@JoelsterG4k 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Vincent 😎
@michaelpalermo9278
@michaelpalermo9278 3 жыл бұрын
I’m interested in purchasing this TV. I was wondering if I would need a separate streaming device or if the TV operating system itself handles that just fine? Thank you.
@nikmani3448
@nikmani3448 2 жыл бұрын
I really want A90J and wondering when it will stop being sold at Best Buy? I cant afford it just yet. Will the price drop any further? Thank you!
@edyson22
@edyson22 2 жыл бұрын
Placing a unit between the legs, classic. As always fantastic content for TV nerds like me.
@elitesquad8139
@elitesquad8139 Жыл бұрын
Please help me!! A 65” oled a80j or a 75” x95j? Both for the same price. Mainly watching sports.
@F1R3EMBLEM
@F1R3EMBLEM 2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently deciding between 1. Sony A80j OLED 77 inch 2. LG C1 OLED 77 inch 3. Samsung S95B 65 inch QD OLED 4. Sony A95k 65 inch QD OLED 3 and 4 are lower down in my list as they're a lot more expensive. Very very tempted to go for the A80j 77 inch because of the size, motion, colours, price. Would have liked to have seen the S95B and A95k in person first but don't think I should be paying so much more for 12 inches less
@owner20071
@owner20071 Жыл бұрын
Which one you went with? It comes to what you watch and in what room the TV will be in (dark or bright). They are more advantages with going with QLED than OLED. OLED is always known for their blacks but QLED mini LCD are right there so no major difference. Also with OLED it don't get that bright and there is always a chance of burn in and it degrades over time (by how much it's hard to say since OLED only came out in 2013 where as LCD are out over 20 years with a very long track record of being reliable). However every manufacturer is getting cheaper, trying to get cheaper parts and they are cutting back on everything to make more profit.
@kojak99100
@kojak99100 3 жыл бұрын
Vincent, in choosing a 4K player to go with the Sony A80/A90, I have heard that the Sony 4K players (x700, 800M/2) are “locked” in player led Dolby Vision and thus do not work well with the new A80/A90 which use TV led DV. Do you know if this is true ?
@jmacd4027
@jmacd4027 3 жыл бұрын
Assuming the Sonys are "locked", what 4K BR players wouldn't be? Panasonic UB9000 or UB820?
@kojak99100
@kojak99100 3 жыл бұрын
@@jmacd4027 The Panny’s use TV led (apparently they switch based on info from the TV?). The old oppo 203 you could choose between the two. I have 3 4K players , the two Sony’s and the Panasonic 820. I noticed that the Sony 800M/2 DV seemed darker vs the Panny 820 when used with my new 83A90J, which started me on this quest to find out why… so I’m trying to confirm what I have heard from various sources…
@jmacd4027
@jmacd4027 3 жыл бұрын
@@kojak99100 Thanks very much for your reply. I'm upgrading right now & I'll go with the Panasonics.
@kojak99100
@kojak99100 3 жыл бұрын
@@jmacd4027 The UB820 has more features than the Sony’s to help justify its higher price… plus it’s a safer bet for DV until we can get the real story on player vs TV led.
@jmacd4027
@jmacd4027 3 жыл бұрын
@@kojak99100 Thanks! Same as UB9000?
@ericadams7834
@ericadams7834 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, thanks Vincent for the review. Amazon ran a 10% money back deal for the 77in with the price at $3500. Made it a no-brainer for me (US).
@tootall1681
@tootall1681 3 жыл бұрын
Feeling better and better with my A80J purchase.
@matheusfpilar
@matheusfpilar 3 жыл бұрын
Lol you have buyers remorse
@tootall1681
@tootall1681 3 жыл бұрын
@@matheusfpilar only regret is not waiting till Prime Day and getting the 65 inch for 200 more than I paid for the 55.
@swa99a10
@swa99a10 3 жыл бұрын
You should have no regrets
@swa99a10
@swa99a10 3 жыл бұрын
@@tootall1681 sony oled a80j / swa99a10 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqTXoZ6onMymjKc
@piensluc7444
@piensluc7444 3 жыл бұрын
not if you are gamer....
@donnyhightops3474
@donnyhightops3474 3 жыл бұрын
When can we expect your calibration picture settings video for the A80J ?
@thomasconway95
@thomasconway95 3 жыл бұрын
Vincent, I appreciate the purpose of your TV reviews is from a technical standpoint, but do you do any off-screen real world viewing to incorporate into your comments? The reason why I ask is because all reviews have exactly the same test patterns and sample clips, etc.
@hdtvtest
@hdtvtest 3 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Conway: We do watch other real-world content, but using the same test patterns and clips rather than a movie du jour allows us to compare across different TVs and generations, especially since these clips were specifically selected to highlight certain issues. We're 100% certain no other reviewer - on or off KZbin - has spotted and demonstrated more shortcomings on TVs than we do.
@polizeit
@polizeit 2 жыл бұрын
hi vincent, great review. i got myself this TV after seeing this review a few months ago. my living room is pretty bright, so “dolby vision bright” seems to compete the best with daylight. all other picture modes on the TV look way too dark. the trouble is, this mode adds an additional frame or two of latency, which is bad for my eARC Stereo Homepod setup. any advice on if there is a way to get the brightness of dolby vision bright without the latency?
@18yearsoldnot
@18yearsoldnot 2 жыл бұрын
Draw the curtains. Can’t you add an audio delay in the settings?
@rootcao1360
@rootcao1360 4 ай бұрын
I'm looking for a 4k eye-friendly TV. Can you adjust the Sony A80J to be eye-friendly? I read that OLED TVs can get really bright, to the extent that it hurts your eyes.
@FonzoCapone
@FonzoCapone 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the A80j different on the 77 inch? Would image retention be better on the 77 inch?
@jasononey
@jasononey 2 жыл бұрын
ISSUE RESOLVED: 100% on Sony A80J 77inch In March Sony released a new TV update that allows the VRR on Sony A80J. Today I installed the TV update and reinstalled the latest Nvidia Drivers. As I expected this was never a driver issue. it was an issue with the Sony A80J software. My issues resolved themselves after the TV update. to get VRR enabled I had to reinstall the Nvidia driver. Now Sony A80J has VRR enabled as does Asus Strix 3090 in Win10. I am a happy man. the issue was screen smear and tear and flicker.
@TwinbeeUK
@TwinbeeUK 2 жыл бұрын
How do you not mention the peak and full-screen white window nits? In your other videos, you had a growing white window and ABL is one of the remaining weaknesses of OLED panels, so it makes extreme sense to include this metric.
@PaulPhillipsUK
@PaulPhillipsUK 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful review
@skeptical_Inquirer200
@skeptical_Inquirer200 3 жыл бұрын
I downloaded the manuals for both the a80j and a90j and was surprised that the 65" a80j can the stand be put in narrow mode (27.25" apart) but 65" a90j can't. I keep my TVs for a long time so to presently I plan to buy either the 65" Sony x95j or Samsung QN90A on Black Friday and not an OLED, not because of price but burn-in concerns. I am worried about my playing a lot of material with black bars either at the top and bottom or right and left and from what I have read online, this over time can cause the pixels on the sides to be brighter than those in the middle because they are turned on less. From the a80j manual pg 6: The following are examples of images that may cause image retention: • Content with black bars either on the top and bottom and/or the left and right sides of the screen. (for example, Letterboxed, 4:3 screen, Standard definition)................To reduce the risk of image retention: • Fill the screen by changing [Wide mode] to eliminate the black bars. Select [Wide mode] other than [Normal]. I am not going to distort the picture by watching material in wide mode. So I am looking to purchase a non OLED that has an ATSC 3.0 tuner. I have a minus infinity interest in gaming and in the real world, nothing is perfectly black.
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 3 жыл бұрын
Soundbars vibrate a bit to make the sounds - so I guess it's stuffing a vibrating unit between the legs to give the most pleasurable outcome with the input source stimulating that area for maximum aural effect..
@TheShutang
@TheShutang 2 жыл бұрын
How big of an issue is the aggressive and none customizable asbl ? I have heard both that it's a deal breaker and that it's not noticeable. What is your opinion?
@otravaandi
@otravaandi 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Can you help me? I wana buy a Sony XRA83J and i dont know if XRA80J is better or are the same? Tnx have a nice day
@sparx2391
@sparx2391 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I did buy a Samsung Q95t, but sent it back, the front came away from the back after one day, and it was way too bright on most things I watched, and sd content looked worse than the 10 year old led Toshiba I have at the monent. I was thinking about the A90j, but I have seen good reviews for the A80 j, considering the price difference, is it worth the extra over the already great A80 j ? I am not into gaming at all, so those features are irrelevant. Richer sounds, in the uk, give a 6 year warrenty with all their tv's
@sparx2391
@sparx2391 3 жыл бұрын
I went for the 65 inch A90J, no regrets, brilliant picture and sound to match.
@XiLock_Alotx
@XiLock_Alotx 3 жыл бұрын
LG still the only OLED on market that can game at 120hz w/Dolby vision on?
@sanchezramirez4280
@sanchezramirez4280 3 жыл бұрын
Before winter 2021 there will be no upgrade for Sony.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 3 жыл бұрын
Not properly LG has huge problems with HDMI 2.1 gaming features and fact Sony hasn't implement them shows want to get them right.
@leonfrancis3418
@leonfrancis3418 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. Sony has no incentive to offer it or a game mode in Dolby Vision for obvious reasons.. DV is gamechanger, even for games not mastered in the format. Once DV mastered games start dropping its going to be ridiculous.
@stanrock8015
@stanrock8015 3 жыл бұрын
I had an A90J. Tons of issues. Love my G1
@chrise.400
@chrise.400 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertK1993 huge problems? Like what!? lol I have a C1 and the gaming features work flawlessly. Sony fan boy much!? 😂
@philjones4995
@philjones4995 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a A80J, I love it... is there any way to add a small subwoofer and use the TV speakers? I cannot figure a way.
@ShaneC2788
@ShaneC2788 2 жыл бұрын
Great review I'm getting this TV
@Donkens
@Donkens 2 жыл бұрын
whats your opinion on semi gloss finish regarding picture quality?
@INDUSonline
@INDUSonline 3 жыл бұрын
was thinking of buying an A80J 65inch, how is it picture quality compared to Philips oled 806. i cant find any comparison videos on youtube.
@claude3990
@claude3990 2 жыл бұрын
Im a little confused here, so I gotta ask this question...on the A80J, are all the HDMI ports 120HZ or just ports 3&4 and 1&2 ports are 60hz? Thanx In Advance
@danitapia2078
@danitapia2078 3 жыл бұрын
Great Tv and great video, thanks
@sidchugh8371
@sidchugh8371 2 жыл бұрын
Hi all, can we cycle through our own photos and art on the a80j? Does it have an art/gallery mode? Also will doing this increase risk of burn in or is this not an issue given that the photos/art will cycle through every few seconds? Tks!
@JAYHAWKER-88
@JAYHAWKER-88 3 жыл бұрын
So … the A80J is better than LG C1?
@michaelcibula9552
@michaelcibula9552 3 жыл бұрын
When you discussed the limitation of the MediaTech (sp?) chip and need to be in either 4k/120 or DV, is that something that might get fixed via firmware later?
@simoSLJ89
@simoSLJ89 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so, I think it's a chipset limitation.
@mrwalker6026
@mrwalker6026 3 жыл бұрын
The Panasonic JZ2000 has the same chipset.. LG's for gaming
@supermadkid
@supermadkid 3 жыл бұрын
The hisense u8g has the same processor and allows you to have 4k120, vrr and dolby vision on all at the same time.
@mrwalker6026
@mrwalker6026 3 жыл бұрын
@@supermadkid yeah the problem with Panasonic and Sony is even with VRR they still have more than twice the input lag than the LG Oled's
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 3 жыл бұрын
Do you really need 120HZ with Dolby Vision will most games use it doubtful 2022 Bravia might support it but if they don't that sign it won't be used much.
@4fus1on
@4fus1on 3 жыл бұрын
Which is a better all around TV for movies, Netflix? If I was to trade my 65" Sony A9G for a 65" Sony A80J instead of the 55" would it be worth the extra cost?
@C--A
@C--A 3 жыл бұрын
11:47 timestamp Vincent goes over all the improvements over last year's A9G. Yes it's worth selling the A9G and getting the A80J if you have the money available.
@jbacmafi
@jbacmafi 3 жыл бұрын
Greatest review
@4fus1on
@4fus1on 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 65" A9G that I got at a clearance price. I was thinking of trading it in for the Sony A80J 55", downsizing because of price. Can anyone tell me is the A80J really that much better than the A9G?
@bakman65
@bakman65 3 жыл бұрын
dont do that mate not worth it especially with downsizing:) maybe if You are watching a lot of sdr in daily conditions in bright room then A80j would be better tv but only if you watch mainly in such conditions
@guillaumeSONY
@guillaumeSONY 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a good idea, keep the 65"
@jdog8701
@jdog8701 3 жыл бұрын
why would anyone downsize? if you cant keep the same size or go up in size its not worth it
@444chroma
@444chroma 3 жыл бұрын
Nah you're caught up in some fomo. Keep the A9G
@Richbroth
@Richbroth 3 жыл бұрын
Smaller size is a no Bueno
@devilac69
@devilac69 3 жыл бұрын
What is your thoughts on the Netflix calibrated mode does it work as they claimed?
@orfeas2335
@orfeas2335 Жыл бұрын
Hello can someone help me with something please. 2 questions 1) Why setting HDMI range to limited instead of full makes the picture look sharper and overall better 2) Why you can turn HDR off and on both at Ps5 settings and the TV options as well? i find myself playing with both of them and i get various results . Should both be on? One off and one on? I dont get it
@gazzyp
@gazzyp 2 жыл бұрын
Finally took the plunge after watching your videos for years. My Sony 65" A80J arrived yesterday, and I have no regrets not opting for the far more expensive A90J. A great deal from John Lewis in the UK and stock was not a problem. Its a huge step up from my previous washed out Samsung QLED fog-fest! One question: how do you get the TV to display what resolution and video format the TV is receiving and displaying. I just cant work it out! how else can I be sure its getting Dolby Vision etc???
@Neal_Schier
@Neal_Schier 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same question. Not sure what it is receiving and displaying. It looks good though.
@ownerr8441
@ownerr8441 2 жыл бұрын
It's automatic meaning if for example you are watching a Dolby Vision movie the picture mode will change to Dolby and you will get I think 2 or 3 options to choose from like Dark or Light Dolby. For HDR there is no indicator but it will show in HDR you will see it get brighter. Samsung Tv on the other hand shows "HDR" in Settings - Picture Settings. Just make sure you go to Picture Settings - Video Signal then make sure HDR mode is set to Auto and HDMI video range is set to auto, with that it will auto detect HDR (whether it's HDR10, HLG or Dolby Vision)
@jamesgillis8990
@jamesgillis8990 3 жыл бұрын
Great Sony A80J review plus a subtle dirty joke! Thanks Vincent.
@busterboy7507
@busterboy7507 3 жыл бұрын
How's the picture quality on the Sony's compared to the Panasonic?
@matthewmcgraw3281
@matthewmcgraw3281 3 жыл бұрын
Solid content as always. Would love to see how the mini LED iPad Pro compares to current model TVs. At least with my device, blooming seems to be fairly well controlled in most circumstances and is a definite step up from my Sony x900f. Curious how they compare with more modern sets especially now that we’re starting to see TV manufacturers warm up to mini LED.
@michaelgordon1343
@michaelgordon1343 3 жыл бұрын
comparing to the A8 if not interested in gaming is the only real big difference the dolby vision? if so is it worth the extra expense?
@Kung_Fu_Kenny
@Kung_Fu_Kenny 3 жыл бұрын
The big difference is the XR processor.
@MrPopo-bd1ix
@MrPopo-bd1ix Жыл бұрын
You forgot about the G1, how does it compare to it?
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