Sony FX30 + ProRes RAW | Worth It?

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Sony FX30 + ProRes RAW ... Worth It?
Meh ... probably not for most people in most scenarios, but still pretty cool. Hey Atomos, Blackmagic, Apple, and RED; can't we work together for the common good?
**I said that Final Cut Pro does NOT have built in Noise Reduction. Apparently, it does. My mistake**
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Chapter Markers
00:00 Intro
01:18 Con 1: Crop
02:47 Con 2: Less sharp?
03:26 Con 3: Ergonomics ...
04:30 Con 4: NLE incompatibilities & inconsistencies
07:42 Pro 1: Most control, highest quality
09:38 Pro 2: Cheap recording media

[@KeshenMac]

5:20 it seems like FPC *does* have built-in noise reduction, it's under the effects tab

[@PhillipRPeck]

Yes, I put a note in the description correcting this mistake. I should pin a comment about it, too. Thank you for the correction

[@jaywbus]

nobody noticed the dogs "doing it" in the background? woof!

[@AngelSanchez-ge9og]

I was like??? 😂

[@idkanymore3382]

this guy is sick. He probably does this to the poor things

[@bunkertons]

​@@idkanymore3382dude, i think it's just a joke.

[@idkanymore3382]

@@bunkertons nope

[@johngotsit]

7:23😂

[@arnisbrown5848]

Came for the fantastic straightforward presentation, stayed for DogHub. Subbed!

[@PhillipRPeck]

lol

[@markwiemels]

Man, you covered this so well. I have said it before, this is your sweat spot type of video, you do them so well. You have just saved viewers of this video so many hours of research and testing.

[@PhillipRPeck]

Thanks! I’m blushing

[@OlimpiuVuia]

Thank you for the very informative review... and the end scene, too!

[@MeilikPepper]

Ive watched tons of vids about the Ninja V and never heard about it being loud. Which means for run n gun documentary filming, if used with the FX30 and the XLR handle unit, it will most likely affect the audio. Thats very new info to me… Thanks for highlighting its noisy aspect.

[@CheeseTurbulence]

Thank you so much for this video, just got my 2nd FX30 and wanted to know if I should look into ProRes recording but will skip that for now 🙂

[@WalterTheBalter]

Informative stufff here. The ProRes raw video at 8:37 is waaay better than the HS so I’ll be paying attention to this more. Thanks for contributing. You are appreciated. I haven’t found time to do this stuff yet but will soon

[@souljaboi81]

Simply Amazing! Thanks for such a thorough explanation!

[@PhillipRPeck]

Thanks! No problem

[@soymezus4637]

First video that I see that covers the crop, that’s a no go for sure for the fx30, thank you! I will go for Linux s5x or Fuji hx2s 🤟

[@FelmanVega]

Good RAW of the dogs banging at min 1:11 definitely a must test when testing RAW capabilities lol 😂. PS : your image quality is stunning! I do like the difference and I think is better!

[@PhillipRPeck]

Dirty dogs. Thank you!

[@wkmpellucid]

I did a fairly extensive testing of shooting ProRes Raw with my FX30 recording to a Ninja V and pretty much agree with all of your points. I also edit and grade in DaVinci Resolve Studio 18 and those extra steps to get media to work in it are a pain. Since there is no chance that I will go back to editing with Adobe Premiere or Final Cut the cons you mention are real barriers. I do find your remarks about the Ninja V interesting. Mine gets warm but never hot, and the fan is barely audible. Shooting in S Log3 Cine EI has given me more control than I deserve.

[@PhillipRPeck]

More than you deserve!? Lol. I guess the volume of the fan is subjective and I could have taken the time to record some audio samples to justify my comments

[@wkmpellucid]

@@PhillipRPeck I do double system sound recording with a Sound Devices MixPre 3 II with timecode sync. The mics are not mounted on the camera, either on a boom pole or wireless so a little amount of fan noise is not an issue. In any case "Dialogue Isolate" in DaVinci Resolve Studio 18 or Isotope RX10 will take care of it.

[@jacksp8de]

Almost bought a fx30 but happy I bought an A7iv to go with my Pocket 6K. The BRaw workflow is still unmatched at this price point.

[@rsike06]

Thanks for this video. You just saved me a lot of money

[@randall-lbc]

Great video, thanks for this. I'd just like to add to the conversation -- a lot of filmmakers prefer a 1:1 pixel readout on a sensor. Subjectively, it gives a more organic feel to your image because it there is no down sampling going on (which why some people prefer the look of the FX3 rather than FX30). Add on top of that; cinema glass and a 12-16bit color, you tend to have a more "cinema" look. I have an FX30 and do shoot RAW over HDMI, but I also use a PL > Sony E metabones speed booster with Tokina cinema glass attached to it. I enjoy the look I get out of this camera very much.

[@PhillipRPeck]

Thanks! Excellent points. I quite like the image as well and I cut out a longer section where I talked about the sort of small format cinematic look of the footage that I really liked. Sometimes I cut out sections where I talk more subjectively for the sake of brevity and keeping it to the facts

[@martinedwards6625]

This is a great, very useful video, and applause to you for making this! Funky cats too! I have a Blackmagic 6K Pro and an FX30, and a Ninja V. Raw is superb on the 6K Pro, with full integration into Resolve and the Blackmagic film LUTs. I agree however with your comments about the Ninja V running hot. It does this with any camera and the fan is definitely audible. The crop factor for Prores RAW on the FX30 with the Ninja V, lack of NLE compatibility and the lack of in-camera processing are deal breakers for using ProRes RAW on the FX30 for me. The XAVC Intra codec on the FX30, with the SLog3 and Cinetone produces very high quality footage when recording internally, with the benefit of in-camera processing on the FX30. An added plus, finally, is that Sony's Catalyst software can use the gyro data in the Sony-recorded files to stabilise the files without the dreaded warping you can get in NLEs. This isn't available for ProRes RAW footage. So Raw for me on the 6K Pro but definitely not on the FX30! Applause again to you!

[@PhillipRPeck]

Thank you. That was pretty much my conclusion. Not enough benefit, too many downsides, internal recording is good enough. If only it recorded the full sensor readout...

[@MANGO-FILM]

Thanks Phillip, Now I know I don´t need ProRes RAW. I can focus on more important things.

[@snaprifice]

I think raw is more of a future proofing aquisition format. If you're doing SDR web content it hardly seems worth it. However, as HDR starts to become more common I could see more advantages there, since more color information and dynamic range is retained, bumping up the data in acquisition could be quite useful.

[@PhillipRPeck]

That's a good point although, technically, 10-bit 422 is enough for HDR content. But I agree, Raw would give you a lot more information to play with

[@lorisfiasconi]

So clean, ur video so usefull! thanks

[@SamNeeMusic]

Thank you! This cinched it for me. I already have a ninja v, but I couldn't decide if I was going to do all my shooting in raw or not, but I had no idea it was ditching the 6k downsample AND adding an additional crop. That + the insane file size makes it no longer worth it for me

[@SamNeeMusic]

And just a note on the Ninja, it is clunky, but not having to squint looking at the tiny fx30 screen, and the fact that I can slide a 4tb SSD in there and have 11hrs of record time for relatively cheap makes it totally worth the practicality cost

[@PhillipRPeck]

Yeah, I mean, it does have a lot of value. Recording regular ProRes is a lot more practical than ProRes RAW for most shoots I would think

[@GlobalShutterNY]

I am sure Sony could unlock true open gate 6K full sensor RAW recording- but that might be too much of a ‘threat’ to their higher end cameras!

[@chaptersev7enstudios]

Lmboooooooo Your dogs were getting busy at 1:30

[@alex_montoya]

Nice video. Subscribed!

[@DrHansBrewery]

I bought the Lumix S5 for it's RAW capabilities. BRAW 6K(5.9). I bought the FX30 for the auto focus and focus breathing comp (focus breathing comp isn't really needed on my S5). I can't believe why Sony don't put out a 6K RAW. That and that is won't put out BRAW makes me not thinking of using the FX30 for RAW. Yes, I'm using Davinci Resolve. I have now preordered the S5mkII-X, we will see if it replaces them both.

[@PhillipRPeck]

I could see using the S5II and IIX as an A and B cam setup. If it were me, I'd keep those two and sell the FX30. I think it's a good idea if you have multiple cameras to have the same camera system so you can focus on lenses that can be used interchangeably. That said, Panasonic has a ways to go before its autofocus is as good as Sony so I understand wanting to have a Sony for that reason. Tough call!

[@jasontaycs7195]

The Fujifilm X-H2S does 6k 3:2 BRAW... though AF is not as reliable as Sony.

[@barisdemiray]

Finally have a better idea of it all, thanks!

[@michaelcroff7097]

Nothing new in this video, but I liked your opinion at the end. For me, the FX30 + Ninja can be compared to Blackmagic. The FX30 + Ninja basically becomes a very expensive and cumbersome Pocket 4k. But the FX30 alone is a Pocket 6k with autofocus, built-in oversampling, smaller file sizes and better lens options. I’d get the Ninja for monitoring, but only because I want the Atom Cast combo. Otherwise I’d use a regular monitor for false color / waveforms.

[@MrVh78]

I pretty much only shoot Prores raw on the FX3 now and to my eyes internal codec just doesn't cut it anymore. The color depth, detail and a more filmic image just make it a no brainer.

[@PhillipRPeck]

Just curious, how do you find the images more "filmic"? Is it the color depth? Or some other quality?

[@MrVh78]

@@PhillipRPeck oops I just replied a wrong comment to this one so deleting/rewriting lol. More filmic coz 1) color depth 12 bit vs 10 bit is ALOT more color. The image saturation and "thickness" of colors is apparent. 2 internal codecs has that sharpened noiseReduction look which i hate. None there in prores raw so the edges of the image are softer and so is the overall cadence. Last but not least, color grading is so much better, I just cant get that pro looking image with 10 bit ( I do lots of color grading along with dehancer/filmconvert)

[@Tugela60]

​@Phillip R Peck He doesn't lol. He just tells himself that whatever he does is "filmic" so he can feel superior compared to "scrubs" who do things differently 😂

[@MrVh78]

@@Tugela60 Typical amateur KZbinr. I shoot/Have shot on Film Arriflex 435/Kodakvision 3, I shoot on Arri's/Red ( dont think they're that great except for Alexa 35 which is the closest to film from a digital camera) and I shoot for the largest AD agency in the world BBDO google them. I don't go to my backyard and shoot ducks on a Sony 50mm 1.4 and think its "cinematic" and then regurge that shit on the comments section like you.

[@arnisbrown5848]

Is there any crop with Prores RAW on the FX3 vs internal recording?

[@focuspulling]

BRAW or bust! Big fan of Blackmagic's efficiency and speed; S-Log3 integrates reasonably alright with Blackmagic Film log, so I just mix the cameras on shoots but default to my BMPCC's when the dynamic range of an environment calls for it -- better than the expense and bulk of an external recorder, and no crop.

[@PhillipRPeck]

I didn't touch on BRAW in the video for the sake of time but it would be nice if that were an option on Sony. ProRes RAW is great and all, but being limited to FCP and Premiere makes it so much less desirable. Internal RAW recording is the ideal, but who knows if or when that will be a realistic option in more cameras

[@focuspulling]

@@PhillipRPeck Yeah, R3D is the evil emperor (i.e., scared little boy) forestalling the industry from internal RAW. Sony is in cahoot$ with Apple ProRes RAW so there's no chance they'll play game with indie Blackmagic down under who refuse pay-to-play tactics, and whose best-in-class codec requires direct collaboration for sensor readout/bayering.

[@KnifeGuy_]

BMCC has no crop?

[@thirun779]

​@@KnifeGuy_no crop over the existing apsc crop.

[@JacksonJoJ]

Great channel and vid. I bought the Ninja V cause it was a 100 off and I wanted a monitor. Seems like the Raw is not really worth it for the fx30. Maybe if I upgrade in the future.

[@PhillipRPeck]

You still get a really great image with a ton of color information despite the crop. Maybe you’ll find a project for it. But definitely something to hold onto for future cameras

[@johnzuluetafilms5226]

bought a 2ndhand ursa mini 4.6k braw and powerful sensor, never look back

[@PhillipRPeck]

I used to have that camera. Loved it!

[@CoryShubert]

I agree, the. crop kills the RAW output value. I want to shoot stock video and in my testing the PreRes RAW, besides the crop, was way too noisy.. I am leaning towards 4k/60p via HDMI to the Ninja V as that is still a better quality file than internal without many of the RAW hurdles. Curious if anyone else is doing stock with this setup and their finds.

[@PhillipRPeck]

The ProRes RAW bypasses internal noise reduction so you'd definitely need to use NR in post. What is it about ProRes via the Atomos that you find better than the internal codecs? Just curious

[@CoryShubert]

@@PhillipRPeck for stock I want the largest file that is the most flexible... but also factor in time to edit for hundreds of clips. MOV files would always win over MP4s due to compression and the "idea" that it is not as full of detail as possible. I am also testing out my FX30s vs my A7CII due to its 7k sensor and HDMI output the same as the FX30, 4k60p

[@d.g1598]

Great video. I have FX30 myself and I wonder about the monitor but the crop when recording in ProRes raw scares me a little. Do You know if I can recording with Ninja v in ProRes HQ codec and if there is a crop?

[@PhillipRPeck]

I honestly didn’t try it but I’m like 90-95% sure that they’re won’t be a crop in regular ProRes. I bet the Atomos website could tell you for sure. They have pretty detailed breakdowns of each camera’s compatibility with the recorder

[@d.g1598]

@@PhillipRPeck thanks man. I’ll check it out

[@acpirola]

Well… after this I’ll probably give up recording externally with the FX30. But I still would like to use a good (and affordable 😊) external monitor for the FX30 (and A7IV) for better expose and stuff… Which one would you recommend?

[@PhillipRPeck]

Feel world and Andycine make pretty good, affordable, and feature-packed monitors. The F5 Pro is a good one. Also, Osee is another good brand to check out

[@acpirola]

@@PhillipRPeck Have some word about the Feelworld F6 Plus?

[@PhillipRPeck]

Don't know, but I'm sure it's fine. All these monitors work perfectly well

[@CraigKovatch]

Sony really needs to add X-OCN LT to these cameras. It's a lightweight format that is amazing to work with. And it's 16-bit to boot.

[@PhillipRPeck]

Never heard of that! I’ll have to check it out. Thanks for the comment

[@PhillipRPeck]

Ah, it’s a high end Sony codec. That would be super dope but not holding my breath!

[@iamdetour]

the background shot on 7:22 is wild 😂

[@PhillipRPeck]

😇

[@AndreasSippus]

The dogs ensuring this video is a banger😅

[@jaywbus]

oh good you saw this too. ha

[@davemorphling7432]

what is the color space of the ProRes RAW?

[@PhillipRPeck]

I don't think there is a color space--it's a linear RAW file--so it needs to have a color space and gamma applied to it. You can try color correcting and grading it as it is (using whatever gamma and color space your project is already in and exporting to), but it doesn't look great. I just converted it to S-Log 3, S-gamut3.cine

[@AMomentInTimeProductions]

Yes With the Sonly Fx 30 shooting Prores RAW, is not really ideal, if you have your heart set on shooting RAW for video i would say go with the Blackmagic 6kpro camera that shoots true RAW with no setbacks, at all, you just gain the all the good reasons to shoot RAW.. With the Sony Fx30 just shoot with the Ninja V+ in prores HQ you will get a much better quality image.. The only real benefits to shooting RAW weather it's video or Still pictures, is that it's more forgiving for exposure and white balance, meaning if your white balance is off a bit or your exposure is off you can change the ISO and settings you would on your camera in post without the video image falling apart because all the information is there.. So my advise is just don' screw up when shooting with the Sony Fx30 and make sure your white balance and exposure is good and you won't need to shoot Raw.. And you will get a much better image, what good is it to shoot RAW with the sony fx30 to fix white balance or exposure when the rest of the quality of the image is degraded, makes no sense... I never bother with Prores Raw with the Sony Fx30 because it's just not good, you get a huge crop , no 6k to 4k down sample and your image is less sharp and your video files are 3 times the size and it takes up more space and makes your Atomos Ninja work harder, this is totally useless in my opinion they should have left that feature out and gave you something else that you can use such as built in ND filter or shutter angle or even used CFexpress type B rather then the old shitty outdated CFexpress type A system... CFexpress type A sucks, it's old technology, it's more expensive for the media cards, and the larges CFexpress type A card you can get is 160 GB which is useless, and it cost $500.00 where you can get a 500 GB CFexpress type B card for $500.00 or a 1.2 TB CFexpress type B card for around $800.00 and CFexpress type B is much faster and more reliable.. Why Sony Insist on using the old CFexpress type A is beyond me, oh wait i know because Sony Owns CFexpress type A technology and so when some company who manufactures a CFexpress type A card Sony Gets paid < yeah that's it... So in truth, Sony would rather get the money and in turn cripple it's customers, they don't care.. LOL That is one of the things Sony needs to do is knock that crap off and get rid of that CFexpress type A crap out of their camera's it's out dated no one wants it it's useless.. What they need to do is start building camera's that can use SSD Drive Technology like Panasonic does, that is more affordable media to record video to you can by a 2 TB M.2 SSD drive For around $250.00 rather the 1.2 TB CFexpress type B for Over $800.00 all camera media cards are over priced which is why i shoot with the atomos Ninja V+ so i can record all my Video to An SS D Drive, the same media companies who make the SD cards Make the SSD drives and charge less then half the price in storage size , a V90 SD card with 1.2 TB cost close to $800.00 to $1,000.00 where a 2TB SSD drive only runs you $250.00 and they are more reliable they have top of the line error correcting because it's a Computer Drive where you install windows and it needs to write page files and do tons of error corrections so your windows operating system doesn't get corrupt, Your windows system files don't get messed, why? because Hard drives and SSD drives has tons of error corrections, if you use a SD card as a hard drive you would be re-installing windows every month LOL.. Lose the SD cards use SSD drives that is the way to go..

[@parodyverse]

how is the highlight recovery vs log?

[@PhillipRPeck]

Didn’t notice any difference

[@PhillipRPeck]

That’s something I was looking for specifically

[@solarion33]

should have checked the regular ProRes recording when setting the camera to all intra in the highest bit rate , which is the way to go I believe in terms of quality , space and price relative to cf express type A cards recording , then you you would still get the camera downsampling 6k to 4k. but Its only based on information I gathered and still needs confirmation.

[@PhillipRPeck]

Yeah, I totally spaced on recording other ProRes options. I do believe that you will get the 6K down sample, so no crop. I also suspect ProRes would be a less processed signal from the camera versus the internal XAVC S-I, so less noise reduction for instance. But, I obviously can't confirm that. However, if it were me, the added price, bulk and rigging hassle of using an external recorder isn't justified just to do ProRes HQ versus XAVC S-I (or even XAVC HS which is what I typically use)

[@solarion33]

@@PhillipRPeck It depends on what you are shooting for events sports and animals I think it’s the way to go and way more affordable then buying bunch of cf express cards or having to Cary a computer I believe you will get the same processing and internal noise reduction too , as you won’t output raw from the hdmi but the all intra.

[@PhillipRPeck]

You don’t need CF Express cards to record XAVC S-I. V90 SD cards will do

[@solarion33]

@@PhillipRPeck They will fill up very fast .. and they are not as affordable as ssd drives

[@solarion33]

@@PhillipRPeck I can get 2 tb ssd in about 2/3 of 128 gb v90 card and

[@colonnellobag6236]

If I buy the ninja V+ can I record with the fx30 without the crop?

[@PhillipRPeck]

No. The V+ allows you to shoot up to 60fps I think. But the crop remains

[@colonnellobag6236]

@@PhillipRPeck With the crop I have the same vision as a micro 4/3?

[@PhillipRPeck]

It's pretty close. I think the FX30 remains a little bit wider overall

[@colonnellobag6236]

@@PhillipRPeck Thank you for answering my questions, I'll ask you one last question, does the crop show up on the recorded file right ?, or is it just on the monitor?

[@PhillipRPeck]

Yes. The recorded image is cropped. It records a 4672 x 2628 portion of the sensor

[@ddespair]

How the hell can the fx30 shoot 4.7k ProRes raw and my A1 can only do 4.3?

[@PhillipRPeck]

I think whether there is a crop and how it's getting rid of the extra pixels are more important questions than overall resolution. The difference between 4.3 and 4.7 isn't that much

[@summarity]

Of course Final Cut has noise reduction. It's not great, but it's been there forever.

[@PhillipRPeck]

My mistake. I did not know that. Thanks for the heads up

[@Peterwfowler]

@1:07 lol

[@JeffBourke]

No interna sharpening is a good thing.

[@PhillipRPeck]

Yeah, can be. I was just trying to present it as something for people to be aware of but I probably made it seem like a negative with my presentation

[@JeffBourke]

I still don’t understand what FX30 RAW is because 6k sensor. Is it cropped 4K RAW or full sensor 6k RAW?

[@JeffBourke]

Well, you are the ONLY person to actually explain it. All the shill channels just skip the crop part 😂

[@jasontaycs7195]

@@JeffBourke RAW is always 1:1 readout regardless of camera. It's like back when Olympus announced 4k ProresRaw for their EM1 series I just rolled my eyes cos that would be the equivalent of shooting RAW on a smartphone.

[@Jthe5th]

​@@jasontaycs7195 Have you shot RAW on a smartphone?

[@jasontaycs7195]

@@Jthe5th RAW for stills and video is a different thing, but yes. I sometimes do it on my phone. What's the link?

[@Jthe5th]

@@jasontaycs7195 I was curious since there are these apps shooting RAW video on smartphones, albeit integration can't be excellent as each phone has different hardware.

[@jasontaycs7195]

The crop instantly makes a BMPCC4k a better RAW camera than the FX30 sadly.

[@PhillipRPeck]

How so? The field of view is similar and the FX30 has a lot of advantages in terms of usability IMO

[@jasontaycs7195]

@@PhillipRPeck Only in terms of autofocus. The bmpcc ui is still better if we're talking about usability. The FX30 may require less rigging, but you will not have any wide angle lenses that are sufficiently wide for the crop factor (2.4x). Whereas on the dedicated mft mount there are wide angle options.

[@zanemckinney7677]

7:22 What is happening behind u lol

[@ReignsworldTv]

Am I the only one that peep 😂 🐶