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Sony WF-1000XM4 (vs. Apple AirPods Pro) - an AUDIOPHILE's perspective

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@DarkoAudio
@DarkoAudio 2 жыл бұрын
**PLEASE READ CAREFULLY** 1) Want more info? The show notes are here: darko.audio/2021/09/a-short-film-about-the-sony-wf-1000xm4/ 2) Polite comments that advance the conversation are most welcome (but no URLs, please) 3) All comments are moderated by a third party
@dennislouis6069
@dennislouis6069 2 жыл бұрын
What most miss about the xm4s is that once you insert it into your ear, you got to twist it backward up to get the right fit in. I wear them for atleast 3 hours everyday and sometimes I even forget I have them on with ambient noise on. I wish everybody discovers this crucial info about wearing them right
@PammalRaaja
@PammalRaaja 2 жыл бұрын
Welldone Dennis!!!! for sharing the tips.
@tommyjongen
@tommyjongen 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, my English is kind of bad, what do you mean with twisting them backwards up?
@Elfin4
@Elfin4 2 жыл бұрын
Don't believe that mate. I had these Sony buds in for half an hour and my ears were sore. When removing the right earbud it would leave the foam tip lodged right in my ear and difficult to remove. Also, what is the point of being able to connect to 8 devices if you cant use it with two devices? Ended up taking them back for a refund.
@dennislouis6069
@dennislouis6069 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elfin4 Hey.. Just give my method a try. I hated them the first two days. My ears turned red and sore and regretted getting them. But then I realised I got to wear them right by turning it a little away from where it was touching the ears where the gold accent is. It needs to point a little more downward than straight ahead. Not only is it comfortable now, it also doesn't have an awkward look. Used to jutt out earlier. I absolutely love them now. Not sure how you got the foam tip lodged in there as they're quite a tight fit on the ear buds and don't come off easy
@darshitkoladiya
@darshitkoladiya 2 жыл бұрын
@@dennislouis6069 The golden accent should lie between Tragus and Antitragus, in the Intertragal notch but not touch them. Is that what you mean? P.S. - Right above the ear lobe (lobule) is a small U shaped, downward facing empty space called Intertragal notch. On the side of the notch that is adjacent to your face is a small C shaped protrusion called Tragus. Opposite to it is a similar bit less defined protrusion called Antitragus. Sorry for getting a bit technical but I Iike the Sony buds way more than Bose and I have read a lot of people saying they are uncomfortable, just want to be sure before purchasing.
@SiekerMusic
@SiekerMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I was scared that my new Xm4's wouldn't work out for me cause of the pain at the beginning. But after 1 week of usage my ears got used to them and now I barely feel them when having them in my ear... And the quality on the ambient and ANC is just redicilously good!
@XtianApi
@XtianApi 2 жыл бұрын
I have had many iem's and yes I can get used to memory foam plugs, but despite wanting the best of the best, I still love silicone tips. That's awesome you are enjoying yours, but I have some oval silicone tips I use with the mk 4's that are just magic for me. Give some silly's a shot if you feel like playing with your setup
@mistervanderveer
@mistervanderveer 2 жыл бұрын
My pain from the XM4's did not come from the foam plugs at all. It came from the physical case. It touched my earbone thingy on my left ear and it caused physical, overwhelming pain even after only a short time. I hate this so much becaus the quality is out of this world. Had to order the Airpods Pro just because they seem more comfortable, expecting them soon.
@resurrex2826
@resurrex2826 2 жыл бұрын
@@mistervanderveer have you gotten your airpods yet? I have small ears as well so was wondering if i need to get the airpods instead of the xm4s
@vladikoroliov4348
@vladikoroliov4348 Жыл бұрын
@@resurrex2826 I have a small ears and I used the m4 for like 3 weeks and still feeling so much pain in my earbons so I ordered AirPods Pro and they better for my ears
@mbizozo6271
@mbizozo6271 2 жыл бұрын
I really loved this review. I have seen a lot of these reviews. This still kept me hooked until the end.
@scottbaylor6215
@scottbaylor6215 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed seeing you out and about. I know that there has to be more work to do that but it makes the video much more interesting to watch, especially coming from the US. Keep up the good work, all of you. Now out on some AC/DC and rock out. 🤘🏼🎸🤘🏼
@thenullco
@thenullco 2 жыл бұрын
Big shoutout to Olaf on this one. The production value of these videos is going up and up. Not so bad yourself either, John.
@DarkoAudio
@DarkoAudio 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Olaf does indeed do a great job and I was super-excited to edit this one (and spent much longer on the edit as a result) because I thought it looked so damn good. Our first in 4K!
@JAOB1968
@JAOB1968 2 жыл бұрын
I never know with these reviews to what extent they are bought advertising by the brands giving the goods away or even paying for positive reviews. But you, somehow, feel completely honest. And knowledgeable. And your musical knowledge (going into Johnny Marr’s guitar playing and Michael Stipes’ vocals in, by far, Billy Bragg’s best album) just did it for me. And congrats on the sound and image quality. You have a new subscriber
@zetacrucis681
@zetacrucis681 Жыл бұрын
The colour grading on this video is superb. The camera work is real nice too.
@julianfp1952
@julianfp1952 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. For this XM4 owner there's a nugget of gold very early on in your review. Although I love the sound quality, and I agree that the bass is particularly special, I just can't get on with my XM4s because of the Sony tips. The small doesn't seal properly and the medium takes me forever to get in and out of my ears as I have to roll the tips between my fingers to compress the foam as much as I can before getting them in my ear as quickly as possible and even then they have started uncompressing enough that I have to spend ages twisting and pushing to try and get them secure. It just kills the convenience for me. Frankly I watched in awe and envy every time you so effortlessly put your XM4s into your ears. The nugget of gold you included in your video for me was your mention very early on that you had replaced the tips with Final Audio tips. A bit of research makes me pretty confident that it is the "Type E" that is compatible with the XM4s so I have just ordered the mixed pack of all 5 sizes from Amazon UK (although I think they actually ship from the USA). I'm really hoping that will fix my fit & convenience issue and allow me to use these without the frustration that frankly has relegated them to sitting in a drawer unused at the moment. That's the trouble with in-ears, however good the audio quality if you can't find a tip that works for you it kills the whole product stone dead for individuals unlucky enough to have the wrong sized ears for a particular set of tips.
@severnsea
@severnsea 2 жыл бұрын
Any update on how the Final Audio tips worked for you?
@jensenlopez2944
@jensenlopez2944 2 жыл бұрын
Also interested in the update
@ArdaBabacan
@ArdaBabacan 2 жыл бұрын
How are the new tips treating you?
@photoipster
@photoipster 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved your channel. And adore Jana. But your end of video comment on getting a dog really did it for me. I’ve been married 37 years,but in year 2 we got our first dog, and have had many since. My 80lb black English lab is my companion, walking, hiking, errands, listening to music, cooking, whatever. They are the best. I appreciate you now more than ever! Thanks for the great approach to music, and for thinking about dogs!
@thirdkey9
@thirdkey9 2 жыл бұрын
So appreciate you leaning into aligned & essential audio utility as well. The Rai Solos and Master and Dynamics IEMs you recommended in the past are still my all around’r go to travel favs.
@mr.dikkens
@mr.dikkens 2 жыл бұрын
I used the XM4 for a week, after using the Airpods Pro for about 6 months. The XM4 has great ANC, lots of bass, maybe too. much, but i just couldnt get used to the fit. So eventually returned them and went back to the Airpods Pro, to each is own, but all round i find they perform better and the sound is more natural to my ears.
@mbah14
@mbah14 2 жыл бұрын
Reconsidering the Sony's and reminiscing on the Tiergarten. Perfectly timed and wonderful review!
@pushslice
@pushslice 2 жыл бұрын
John , my dogster is deaf, But when I’m listening to hifi she seems to just calm down and be happy to sit next to me on the chair without fussing too much like she normally does. I do think that dogs can sense when their parent is content & enjoying music. You will absolutely love having a dog.
@davebroadbent7229
@davebroadbent7229 2 жыл бұрын
Great review John, I own both the AirPods Pro and just recently the XM4’s, love them both for different reasons, the Sony’s for their musical reproduction and ANC, and the AirPods do a fantastic job with phone calls and I’m now a convert on the Spacial and Dolby Atmos reproduction of the audio, another great review and came at the right time for me👍 🎧
@BillyKueekSG
@BillyKueekSG 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the Spatial and Dolby Atmos music please?
@minishyam1992
@minishyam1992 2 жыл бұрын
@@BillyKueekSG Apple Music app
@helenalovelock1030
@helenalovelock1030 2 жыл бұрын
Are the Sony’s comfortable to wear over night?
@LovelyKittenMusic
@LovelyKittenMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@helenalovelock1030 If you fully sleep face up or face down, you won't have a problem at all. But, if you sleep on your side, it can be a little bit uncomfortable and might hurt your ear, you gotta find a sweet spot to fully sleep on your side properly.
@hypnotyz147
@hypnotyz147 2 жыл бұрын
@@LovelyKittenMusic that’s what she said 🤣
@bshah4831
@bshah4831 2 жыл бұрын
I found the Xm4s were fine on calls. If you set Android Developers settings for LDAC for quality then the reproduction with FLAC is great.
@marco47079
@marco47079 2 жыл бұрын
Are you using Tidal Master?
@EternalDestiny48
@EternalDestiny48 2 жыл бұрын
How do you enable LDAC on the Sony xm4? Or is it through the phone? I can't enable either
@YISTECH
@YISTECH 2 жыл бұрын
@@EternalDestiny48 through the phone. Only on android and Linux. Not iOS
@neilbryson
@neilbryson 2 жыл бұрын
On most modern Android phones, LDAC should be enabled automatically once you connect the Sony headphones
@3dus
@3dus 2 жыл бұрын
You can turn on and off the DSP on the AirPod pro. Transparency and ANC have DSP, and the difference is staggering. Also, I heard it does some sort of measurement (several times per second) of our ear canal to adapt to our music.
@jakefoxx7978
@jakefoxx7978 2 жыл бұрын
It's rather unfortunate that I can't wear the XM4s for exstensive periods and I've never had that kind of setback before. Funny thing is that they look ergonomic but the tips are a pain when it comes to fiddling with the fit or simply having them in your ears. That said, the CX400BT earbuds are much more comfortable and have a massive soundstage that I believe the Sonys could truly benefit from. Both of these buds are the best I've tried but both have something artificial about their interpretations of sound. Out of the box they're both friendly to the low end while leaving much of the high end behind for a "puffier" sound. Nothing that can't be fixed in the EQ on their respective apps, but I guess both Sony and Sennheiser have decided for you that cymbals, hi-hats, snare, acoustic/electric guitar, piano/keyboards, high-end synths/sound fx will permanently sound duller or less natural than to be expected. I think the raw texture of all those things is better represented via the XM4s as well as the bass (asuming you EQ it to be as close to the default as possible). Alternatively, I think the Sennheisers push everything out more to let the sizzles, snaps, and claps breathe better but it can be hard to well whether or not brighter toned music makes the most of it. Maybe if a push towards making even old music sound breath-takingly stronger was made, modern songs would sound that much better- everything would sound much better. That's my nitpick so far after less than a week oof. I'm no audiophile but I couldn't get by with actual over-ear headphones as big and obvious as they are (my parents would tell me to take them off in a heartbeat)
@darreng279
@darreng279 2 жыл бұрын
When outdoors, an over ear headphone like the Sony WH-1000X M3 works great to keep strong gusts of wind from blowing your cap off.
@nieledwardmckeeable
@nieledwardmckeeable 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. Every one likes the earphones they own but it's good to hear your thoughts on the mx4's. I find the fit and audio a big improvement from the mx3's. When you hear new details in old favourites and it puts a smile on your face there's something good happening.
@mr_sea_turtle
@mr_sea_turtle 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent gear and comparison review! You should do more reviews outdoors 🤟🏾 it is very refreshing to watch, when we are indoors 🤪
@dietrichwagner
@dietrichwagner 2 жыл бұрын
Great perspective John and an a true advocate for music first. I do a lot of running and bike commuting. I have been using multiple iems Bose QC 20, Bose soundsport, Sony XM3, AirPods and the Pro. But I must say the aerodynamic shape of the AirPods Pro with the passiv isolation is far the best performer for fast cycling, sports etc. It creates the lowest windnoise of all iems and enables me to listen to music at lower level and deliver a better overall sound experience. I always deselect noise cancellation as I find the that feature not functioning properly with wind on any iems so far.
@harry3344
@harry3344 2 жыл бұрын
i have to say i frickin loved this, i'm not really an audiophile but i've been trying to decide what wireless earphones to get for a while now and this review was perfect, it didn't just say omg get these they're so good, you just summed up the pros nd cons in a really understandable way, especially for someone who's never had a nice pair of wireless earphones before. :)
@neovincci
@neovincci 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks! Quite unexpected, but right on time. I recently got the Xperia 1III and was thinking of also grabbing a pair of these. This would be my first foray into wireless, but if I can find a way of putting triple flange tips on them, I think they'd work well.
@BishieBishie
@BishieBishie 2 жыл бұрын
The speaking to pause and drop ANC is so good. Someone stops you to ask something you speak and it just does everything for you. I don't even take them out in shops etc, which wearing a mask makes life easier.
@direng
@direng 2 жыл бұрын
I've not had an issue with long wearing times. I use it for work 8-10 hours a day. Perhaps the memory foam air tips it comes with help distribute the weight better than your replacement tips? I've used foam tips with Sony XBA 4s in the past so perhaps I'm used to them (I loved those xba 4s!). The foam tips form a tight seal and block a lot of sound even on my old non noise cancelling XBA4s. I also often wear fitted ear plugs to block noise, which are the best, for reference of what experience I've had in this area. The Xm4s have been great. I use it with Tidal and the sound is good. Agreed that it suits modern music. Doja Cat with 360 audio sounds excellent, and I don't even like hip hop. Agreed that some acoustic sounds a bit artificial. I listen to a lot of Beethoven and movie soundtracks and enjoy them a lot. But I agree that I've had better wired headphones especially for detail and classical (Sony's XBA 4s were excellent, especially after a few hours of wear in, although I know many who disagree). But the XM4s are the best wireless headphones I've heard.
@RealYethal
@RealYethal 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic dog. Video was okay too
@DarkoAudio
@DarkoAudio 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same.
@Isaac_L..
@Isaac_L.. 2 жыл бұрын
You should review the Fiio btr5.
@DemonDaytonaTriple
@DemonDaytonaTriple 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend giving the Bowers & Wilkins PI7 a shot. I never had TWS IEMs sounding this close to an over ear headphone they are ridiculously good. Although the ANC may not be as effective as the Sony's and my major gripe is the runtime of these but apart from that? Stellar.
@severnsea
@severnsea 2 жыл бұрын
How about the high end clarity and detail? That's where Sony don't quite get it right for me, but I think part of it is because they're pandering to those who want strong, heavy bass as the main feature.
@shhmasood
@shhmasood Жыл бұрын
Shifted from airpods to the SONY XM4.. Huge difference in sound quality, ANC and battery life.. The charging case supports wireless charging as well. Loving the Sony!
@TheDreadwolfMetal
@TheDreadwolfMetal 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review. I think I might be getting these earphones. They are beautiful, I like that they support 5.2 Bluetooth and the LDAC codec which is currently the best codec we as consumers can get at a discrete price.
@WillShrop
@WillShrop 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a review on the B&W PI or Sennheiser Momentum 2
@LASoundCrafter
@LASoundCrafter 2 жыл бұрын
You hit on one of my main uses for EarPod pros - I turn on noise-cancelling at the gym without music to cancel out clattering weights and the insipid music gyms always seem to play.
@glennwith2ns
@glennwith2ns 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your thoughts on the Jabra Elite 85t's next now that you've had time with the XM4's.
@dmitry2691
@dmitry2691 2 жыл бұрын
And new Jabra Elite 7 pro, Elite 3
@JonathonDoig
@JonathonDoig 2 жыл бұрын
I have had a pair of 85t's as well. I regularly cut grass with my petrol lawnmower and they just cut all that noise out. Not quite so good with a chainsaw but still very impressive. As to sound quality I use an iPhone and reckon they sound very good. I wonder if you can hear the difference between LDAC and AAC in normal use?
@quentingoldfinch
@quentingoldfinch 2 жыл бұрын
Noise cancellation for the person at the other end of a phone call is as important as that for the wearer of the monitors, be they in-ear or over-ear. But it's harder to assess than the noise you hear yourself as the wearer. My AirPods Pro appear to pass through quite a bit of noise to the caller, judging by complaints from my family when I'm calling them. My son has a pair of Sony WH-CH510 and likes to call me while he's walking home or making a meal. The noise I get in either case is atrocious. Basically intolerable. So... I'd love to hear some comparisons of the effectiveness of noise cancellation in the audio sent to the other end of a phone call.
@ToddCaldwell1
@ToddCaldwell1 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! I have these and could not agree with you more. Also love at 15:28 when your phone has a notification for Steve Guttenberg. I love it when the top reviewers support each other! Our love for audio makes.us all family 😁
@bobcat6653
@bobcat6653 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Sony WF-1000XM4's and I tried and tried and tried and couldn't get them to fit and seal, not even marginally well. I was so disappointed and though sure I was doing something wrong. After 24 hrs of trying I returned them and bought the AirPod Pro, which fit so, so much better, connected seamlessly and sound perfectly good as wireless IEM.s go. Your milage obviously DID vary! I love your channel!
@VladimirLadev
@VladimirLadev 8 ай бұрын
I love these! Bought them recently and love them to bits. I use GRADO labs sr80e headphones on my desk at home and am used to a ballanced natural sound and these are just a dream with some base as well. ANC is amazing to me, just how quiet it can get in a crowded room or hallway or even on the road. It completely eliminates lowend rumbles. The controls are super intuitive and operate semingly, I love having my ANC controll and Ambient HOLD on the left and playback controlls with Google assistant on the right. Reads your messahes the time etc. Adding reminders, notes and getting information, requesting songs or asking whatever without saying " OK Google" all the time or grabing my phone is super practical and makes me feel less of a dork.
@ZeBubba
@ZeBubba 2 жыл бұрын
I've kind of given up on actually getting good SQ from wireless IEMs, for now at least. My solution right now is Airpods Pro for podcasts etc and (wired) Blessing 2 Dusk for actual music enjoyment. Quite happy with the duo. Cheers!
@renatinhodelperu
@renatinhodelperu 2 жыл бұрын
amazingly detailed review, everything I wanted to know and more. Thank you!
@mahamuni321
@mahamuni321 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you set the context and explain the stuff with so much of energy and details. Hats off to your efforts in making these videos and sharing such a great knowledge with us. Thanks a lot and looking forward for many more such interesting videos to learn more from you!
@FireMunki63
@FireMunki63 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully recorded, superb analysis, top-notch review as always
@borismarkus5960
@borismarkus5960 Жыл бұрын
omg man....what a review! Profesionalism,passion,knowledge....big big respect! From an owner of WF-1000XM4
@hyedefinition1080
@hyedefinition1080 2 жыл бұрын
On my 2nd pair of XM4s...returned the first pair after 3 weeks due to the ear fatigue in my smaller ears. Then as is the case with personalized ads on social media, I saw a certified refurbed set for $180 and decided to give them another chance. I changed the tips to Complys dedicated ones for the Sony TWS...night and day difference in comfort and even sound quality....these rock when I am out and about. Calls do suck though, ppl complain that I am talking in a tunnel.
@peterholland5427
@peterholland5427 8 ай бұрын
Bought these a couple years ago in part because of this review. I have had fitting issues but the sound is very good, my only issue is after a couple years the battery life is pretty poor. You pay a premium price for this and expect the battery to last a little longer than it actually has! Have read about various issues elsewhere with this & its disappointing that Sony don't care if its out of warranty - the customer has to pay to fix thiis 😞
@Hush99
@Hush99 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the future Darko doggo :)
@joemorgan164
@joemorgan164 2 жыл бұрын
Would recommend having a read of people’s issues with these before buying. I saw all the comments about quality control and assumed I wouldn’t have an issue, but am returning my second pair after running into the same issues as with my first pair - namely high pitched whines, metallic echos, and connection dropouts. Real shame because they really do sound fantastic but I’m not going to waste anymore time trying to find a pair that work properly
@blueridge8992
@blueridge8992 2 жыл бұрын
I consider Comply tips a necessary addition to the AirPods Pro. They give a truly perfect seal (if you pick the right size) and that’s when the drivers in the Pros finally shine. You still have to boost the low end a bit to get a balanced sound but not like 50% as I was doing with the included tips. Actually, with the Comply tips I consider the bass to be fuller and warmer than my XM3s. Give them a try.
@szabolcserdesz9159
@szabolcserdesz9159 2 жыл бұрын
Am using my airpod pro with comply foam tips made for this apple’s specific type of buds. Worth to try cos much better sealing than the originals and to my taste it sounds better 👌
@hermanvisser4034
@hermanvisser4034 2 жыл бұрын
I use these Sony's on long trips in the car. Completely takes the noise fatigue out of rough country roads. Very happy with them on the open road, even with noise cancellation off.
@vivekshivdasani9521
@vivekshivdasani9521 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent camera work. I am a cafe type of person. I can guarantee you that with your level of skills you could do a video of cafes in Berlin and it would get viewed by hundreds of thousands of people if not millions. PS I have a pair of huge tannoy speakers built in 1969 which give me super sound quality to this day.
@aualdrich
@aualdrich 2 жыл бұрын
You always have such lovely shoot locations! Thanks!
@atrain5197
@atrain5197 2 жыл бұрын
It's a rare moment when an in-ear headphone of any brand is comfortable and effective out of the box. I replaced the Airpod pro's tips immediately with some aftermarket silicone tips- much better! Seal and sound (and also not falling out of your ears) immediately way better... Wouldn't it be nice if Apple actually listened to complaints? As for the wired version, I still like Etymotics- but I'm not addicted to bass thud...
@trethompson333
@trethompson333 2 жыл бұрын
Why would after market tips be better and do you know which ones to buy?
@JamesSarkarX
@JamesSarkarX 2 жыл бұрын
Your video are so pleasing to watch. Subbed.
@thisispw
@thisispw 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, really like all your link music, would love some playlists. Good work John by you and your team. Thank you.
@DarkoAudio
@DarkoAudio 2 жыл бұрын
Did you look in the description box?
@Drackleyrva
@Drackleyrva 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Good taste in music as always---New Order, Substance.
@StellarStreak
@StellarStreak 2 жыл бұрын
Love this guys's voice and pacing. It's so comforting, calming and easy to follow. Somewhat of a 'Veritasium' vibe. Very pleasant. Kudos to the honesty with which he talks about consumer grade bluetooth earphones. It resonated with what I personally experienced a few weeks ago. I had never listened to audio on a set of wired IEM(don't know the brand) before let alone know what they are and later fortunately happened to listen to the Sony WF1000XM3(have listened on other bluetooth headphones before). The bass and low frequency response that I was so used to was non-existent on the wired IEMs. It felt so flat and unnatural that I didn't like the experience. P.S.: I have never used an external DAC or amplifier in combination with a high grade audiophile IEM. Full disclosure, I do not anything about audiophile setups or equipment. While I was trying to learn more about such topic, I came across this channel. And, I must say I love this channel's content and especially the narrator, Mr. darko. Cheers!
@FliskerX
@FliskerX 2 жыл бұрын
Sennheiser True Wireless is amazing for wireless ones. All the rest I tried were just horrible back then when the Senns released.
@gorillapancake
@gorillapancake 2 жыл бұрын
Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless 2 are better than Sony XM4 for both music and phonecalls.
@ernaldo1848
@ernaldo1848 2 жыл бұрын
@@gorillapancake Sennheiser momentum true wireless 2 are worse than my 50 dollars wired in ear headphones, jesus christ, these Sony are terrible then :/. I don't know if I can't trust the word of this audiophile or yours tho.
@svenschwingel8632
@svenschwingel8632 2 жыл бұрын
I recently got my XM4s and have somewhat mixed feelings about them. They have a great bass response and a really nice midrange. Which make them great for listening to a wide variety of music. But if you're someone who prefers a more analytical style with a really detailed treble, you might find yourself using the DSP to give them a slight treble boost. In that regard, I prefer my Sennheiser Momentum Wireless (I only have the older ones with the wireless neckband and the wired plugs). But the XM4s definitely have their qualities.
@severnsea
@severnsea 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I have to agree. I'm a big Sony fan and I'm no expert, but I bought the same Sennheiser set for exactly the same reason. Seems to be the case with many headphones, the manufacturers often place more emphasis on heavy bass and lose some of the high end clarity and detail in the process. I have to say that Sony do a better job than most, but I think their sound stage is better suited to speakers than headphones.
@MenniePlay
@MenniePlay 2 жыл бұрын
For me, If I need anything beyond and better than this XM4, I will prefer wired headphone and I still do it.
@deltaxsingh
@deltaxsingh Жыл бұрын
Along with the tip provided below about how to position them. Open your mouth when inserting them. Your jaw bone spaces out further and allows the ear canal to expand, allowing you to get a tighter seal.
@andrewwong9769
@andrewwong9769 Жыл бұрын
I got the Sony XM5 for almost six months. But it starts to have problem for recharging the earphones 😢
@Nearest_Neighbor
@Nearest_Neighbor 2 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on foam tips, did you tried some? Thanks for your work.
@mickeytollison
@mickeytollison 2 жыл бұрын
Just a note. The people that complain about paper usage honestly don't understand that we will never be able to use paper at a rate that we can't easily replace the trees that are needed to produce the paper. You can not give away pine. The stuff is dirt cheap. People are letting their pine grow for years longer because they can't afford to take the loss on the prices. Use paper. Use lots and lots of paper.
@mrfrosty3
@mrfrosty3 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the wf1000xm3 for several months and love how they sound, maybe it is just my pair and some weird synergy with my ears but, I prefer them to some of my IEMs. With a wireless DAC/amp like a BTR5 using LDAC my better IEMs do sound better. Tempted to get the new Sony or the IFI Go Blu.
@itsameraiden
@itsameraiden 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the video. Would like to ask a couple of questions. 1) How long were the XM4 used before the review? Any significant difference has been appreciated? Any "burn-in" to be had? 2) About the 360 spatial audio. Is it a feature that makes it worth the buy? Does it make or break this product? does it justify - if any - somewhat lesser audio quality when compared with wired IEMs? 3) DXEE Extreme. Does it serve any signficant feature? - as in, does it work as advertised? Thanks, have a nice day.
@itsameraiden
@itsameraiden 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to add that I was able to find a XM4 during this Black Friday in a local electronics store where I live at 190€. I was asking these questions as they may be of use for me to understand if I could pull the trigger on these, or seek something different like the B&O PI7. Thanks
@brinthanragulan5267
@brinthanragulan5267 2 жыл бұрын
Mr.Darko Audio, can you please review Soundcore Liberty 3 Pro?🥺🙏🏾
@allansh828
@allansh828 2 жыл бұрын
The previous gen sound very dynamically compressed. Do you find the same issue on XM4?
@i0001w
@i0001w 2 жыл бұрын
No, I have both. The new one is waaaay more dynamic and tight sounding
@reece3134
@reece3134 2 жыл бұрын
@@i0001w dynamic and tight sounding is that better ?
@Varocka
@Varocka 2 жыл бұрын
@@reece3134 yes
@JogieGlenMait16
@JogieGlenMait16 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I got the xm3's at a discount last month. A new version has arrived.
@SgtBotBot
@SgtBotBot 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video, thanks for putting it out John. Can you recommend any other audio reviewers who listen to rock or metal and use this sort of music when reviewing gear?
@senior_ranger
@senior_ranger 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're here with us, John!
@squidwerd1981
@squidwerd1981 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect exposure on the subject and background. Great camera work
@jalabeanos9311
@jalabeanos9311 2 жыл бұрын
I wish i could test earbuds before buying a pair. For me comfort is high priority. Could anyone tell me how either of these fit compared to the original galaxy buds.
@Thanosdidtherighthing
@Thanosdidtherighthing 2 жыл бұрын
Very well. The app will detect which size ear tips you need for a secure fit. While it is in your ears, it will tell you if you need to reposition them by rotating them for optimal fit.
@funcionyforma
@funcionyforma 5 ай бұрын
I found a used pair of this for around 80usd. I remember this video and came to see if they were any good, but i'm leaving it buzzing with this Billy Bragg guy. No longer want to spend money, thanks Darko!
@user-cx5ni7me6l
@user-cx5ni7me6l 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review. I have been doubting between these two for a few months now. My wired earbuds always get destroyed within 2 to 6 months, and therefore i'm looking for wireless earbuds to listen to music almost all day while i'm working and chilling. thanks and all the best wishes for 2022
@ericdutt3582
@ericdutt3582 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my first pair of ANC Sony earbuds (wired) in 1990. Great PNC (sealed very well) with super light earbuds and superb ANC They were 10 hour earbuds without a doubt. They were a godsend on planes and worked flawlessly until 2016 = quality. I never fly without ANC... which I leave on during the flight even if I am not listening to anything. While listening, I can keep the level very low because I don't have to drown out the ambient noise. Traveling on bus or train would have the same advantage. I forgot them one trip and arrived completely fatigued. I still think it is worth it to get custom moulded tips to use with any and all IEMs. Please be careful in traffic with earbuds/headphones. Our ears give us important cues which shave seconds off of reaction times.
@akshayjagadishrao9594
@akshayjagadishrao9594 2 жыл бұрын
@darkoaudio Great video. Please review the Soundcore Liberty 3 Pro . Would love to hear your opinion on the dual driver TWS as compared to the sony xm4
@AndyP-London
@AndyP-London 7 ай бұрын
I'm having serious doubts about 'Future-fi' products. Almost two years to the day the left-hand bud battery does not last fifteen minutes. I have contacted Sony who have advised that as it's out of warranty I will have to send them for repair at my cost. It seems that in the USA they have been replacing these foc. Sony knows there is a problem but is not addressing it at least not in the UK. They cost me £200. I like other reviews for expensive active speakers but I'm now thinking what if you have to rely on updates from manufacturers and the same type of issue happens? Analogue systems are 'safe' from these types of issues. Maybe that's why vinyl is making a comeback? I think there needs to be a follow-up on this review reflecting the battery drain issue.
@luisperez-ii8lf
@luisperez-ii8lf Жыл бұрын
The music on this video sounds better than many lossless tracks😂😂
@jsloan5216
@jsloan5216 Жыл бұрын
I have been using the XM3 iem's for a few years now. Looking to upgrade to a schiit magni heresy, modi + and loki + stack paired with my laptop and a pair of HiFiMan Sundara, H400se and Emotiva GR1 phones.
@Dawar55
@Dawar55 Жыл бұрын
I love these kinds of reviews.
@rondegoey
@rondegoey 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the AirPods with the sound settings you can find under Accessibility settings on your iPhone? (Accessibility -> Audio/Visual -> Headphone Accomodations). I’d love to know your opinion compared to the XM4’s after playing around with the clarity settings. I’m about to make a choice between the two this week and I can’t stand the way Sony and Apple make this choice so hard 😠😂
@emptywallet1684
@emptywallet1684 Жыл бұрын
so which one did you choose cause im also stuck with this choice
@sauravshanbhogue7202
@sauravshanbhogue7202 Жыл бұрын
@@emptywallet1684 .
@qstorm76
@qstorm76 2 жыл бұрын
The 3D sound watching Witcher season 2 on the apple tv with AirPods Pro blew my mind. Decided to try it one night when I didn’t want to wake the kids. That got me thinking about the AirPods Pro.
@ericharrelson2045
@ericharrelson2045 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review, especially the video and sound quality. I have the Jabra Elite 64T, they only lasted for about a year before flaking out, and the sound was not that good. Based on this review, I'm going to give the Sony WF-1000XM4 a try. Thanks.
@CaptHotah
@CaptHotah 2 жыл бұрын
I wear them at work for 4-5 hours straight and i don't feel them so i guess comfort depends on ear shape or something 🤔
@Akstergrind
@Akstergrind 2 жыл бұрын
You seeing lots of dogs makes you want a dog...me watching this video makes me want some noise-cancelling IEMs. Lovely to see a bit of Berlin, too. Great video!
@JohnDoe-dn9yo
@JohnDoe-dn9yo Жыл бұрын
They're alright to be honest.. A few gripes i personally have in the sound quality area: 1) Sound levels are low for the cost (yes I have used the EQ and volume on the connected device is all the way up) 2) I can't stress it enough...for the price point the sound levels and overall sound quality leaves you wanting more from these earbuds and possibly having you searching elsewhere if you're an audiophile type like myself
@yowandbm
@yowandbm 2 жыл бұрын
I bought Sennheiser Momentum 2, similar pricing. They were compared to MX-3 and sounded better. I wonder if these sound better than momentum 2.
@ciejaygear
@ciejaygear Жыл бұрын
You've got to remember how 'Blue Monday' era was recorded mate in the 80's. Was an idealized experiment. . Uber compressed. We mustn't expect miracles. I think I'll get the sonys for Mt. Biking. They sound ideal.
@DC-sp5ds
@DC-sp5ds 2 жыл бұрын
I cycle with mine, and wind noise reduction is excellent. (I worried about this before buying the xm4).
@QoraxAudio
@QoraxAudio 2 жыл бұрын
The picture of the Albrecht von Roon statue really cracked me up! 😂
@hixyhicks
@hixyhicks 2 жыл бұрын
Nearly fell over when you mentioned KZ .Id love your honest opinion on some KZ earphones .
@macusermdm
@macusermdm 2 жыл бұрын
Returning mine this weekend. They hurt my right ear the buds are really big. Sound is really good though.
@sachinparihar8582
@sachinparihar8582 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a review on galaxy bud pro.
@TeslaDo
@TeslaDo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for fantastic true review. Just subs’d
@whatmust8146
@whatmust8146 Жыл бұрын
I have both the WF1000xm4 and WH1000xm4. earbud and headphone respectively. Fantastic products and awesome sound and so is the ANC. They are expensive for a reason because they are above the rest in nearly everything. I go a different route to buy these. I bought used with issue because i know how to fix them. Sure beats paying retail price.
@erpino68
@erpino68 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John, great video as always. You are the n.1 person I trust and follow on KZbin when it comes to audio. Greetings from Milan Enrico
@nivektek2681
@nivektek2681 Жыл бұрын
nice video.. I like very much your earphones/headphones/speakers reviews ..what is the brand and model name of your edc bag please while riding a bike and walking please? How many liters of the bag please? How much the bag please? Where you bought the bag please?
@jeffp0rn
@jeffp0rn 6 ай бұрын
Have you done a comparison between the Sony WF-1000XM4 and Sony WF-1000XM5 yet?
@professorcalculus5315
@professorcalculus5315 2 жыл бұрын
Strong intermission
@SizzlingStu
@SizzlingStu 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to know what you think of the Bose Quietcomfort Earbuds compared to both of these
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