Sony ZV E1...Slog 3 not as easy as you think!

[@aquinoj99]

If you're going to shoot in SLog3, it's best to stick to the 2 Base ISO's. 680 for well lit and 12800 for low light to dark. It doesn't get simpler than that. Adjust everything else to expose properly (aperture/shutter/ND filter). The FX30 uses the same principle of getting the best out of the Slog3 by sticking to its 2 ISO's (800 and 2500). The best Picture Profile for beginners is S Cinetone IMO.

[@Ggg123-q3b]

If I load lut into the camera, anyone has any idea do I still need to over exposing it to1.7 stops to 2 stops?

[@aquinoj99]

@@Ggg123-q3b Yes, you still do.

[@Ggg123-q3b]

@@aquinoj99 🙏 thanks, how about gamma assist, I believe I shouldn’t use gamma assist if I were to use LUT in the first place right?

[@aquinoj99]

@@Ggg123-q3b Mine is grayed out in my FX30 so I assume you don’t need it to be on.

[@maximecaron3133]

@@Ggg123-q3b depend if it’s baked lut or display lut.

[@jcav764]

Thanks for the heads up. I'm not sure if a beginner would use slog 3 unless they were wanting to get into color grading. There are other options for them that will look better than the competition in similar lighting conditions straight out of camera.

[@wakeywarrior]

You are correct, whilst KZbinrs and experts may say use Slog 3 it looks awful and grainy unless you are one of the base ISO, spend ages setting it up, and use ND filters outside. For the rest of us I am just using S Cinetone on my ZVE1 and it looks fantastic (picture profile 11 no effort needed!). That also has a much more sensible (for most) second base ISO but you will lose some quality in yen very dark environments compared to a properly set up 12800 Slog 3.

[@MTKnockOut]

purchased this for infamous slog

[@BrianGJohnsonPhotography]

I’ve preordered and I am a Sony A7S iii user. Is the ZV E1 beginner, for me, not sure it matters. People will buy what they wanna buy. Some people will spend a bit more to have a quality camera. SLOG … I’ve never shot with it. However, I have shot a ton of videos and have driven over 14 million views (Brian G Johnson TV). When I started with the A7S iii … I had about two years experience. However, I stuck with no picture profile for a while and that was ok. About a year ago, I started filming in SCinetone and I like that profile. One of the features I am looking forward to with the ZVE1 is that I can preview SLOG with a lut. That will make life a bit easier … shooting great videos / photos takes a lot of time and practice. There are no short cuts …. but, cameras are becoming more powerful and the ZV E1 looks great. It’s gonna over heat on me … I am sure. But, I will make it work and I have a ton of cameras. Will be interesting to see how popular the camera becomes …. cheers … good luck on your decision to keep the ZV or not.

[@hasenmyer]

Previewing with a LUT is a game changer for sure. At this point I'm keeping my pre-order and I'm going to test the ZVE1 out as much as I can and make a decision at that point.

[@vinhsanity]

yep shoot in either 640 or 12800 and use a ND or VND to get the right exposure

[@TamilTab1]

the grip near the battery gets warm to the touch pretty soon. its not unberable, but i can feel it and that too just shooting in HD and not in 4K

[@hasenmyer]

I'm interested to see if overheating is going to be a major problem for me while using this camera.

[@greinalexandra]

Have you tried LOG shooting mode with flexible ISO instead of a Slog3 picture profile? It’s way more intuitive.

[@AprilClayton]

I was also using auto ISO in slog 3. Then I started manually setting ISO for better results. I mainly se S cinnetone though, because it’s so much easier to

[@hasenmyer]

S cinnerone is much easier and looks good too, although I like the flexibility of slog3 and use it when convenient. Being able to add luts into camera has been helpful

[@InventorAndCurious]

Are the auto exposure functions (iA, A, S,….) that work with SLOG in cameras with this sensor; or does auto always force SCinetone or non SLog?

[@hasenmyer]

@@InventorAndCurious you can use auto modes with slog3, just make sure you are manually setting in the iso to one of the bases and exposure comp to at least +.7…let you camera figure out the rest

[@InventorAndCurious]

@@hasenmyer Just got the ZVE1 and at first glance it seemed to revert back to SCinetone with auto function. I’m on it. BTW, thanks for the quick response. Nice to have you “on it”!

[@z352kdaf8324]

It sounds like the 1 thing you are missing - If you are shooting in 12,800 and you need "4,000 iso" to maintain the 180 shutter rule, you need to use NDs. But yes, this takes more work, and some thought. But like you mentioned, you might just bring the f/stop down as well if you don't need the bokeh. Plus proper exposing for the "low light" - goes along way getting less noisy footage.

[@hasenmyer]

Yes, Sony invited top level KZbin talent to showcase this camera..some may be disappointed to learn that shooting in the standard profile won't yield the same results as was shown by the initial launch videos. Same with my insta 360 one x2. My video looks like junk, while the initial creators looked great, little did I know what length they were going to get good looking footage. I mean who shoots manual mode/log profile with an action cam and grades the footage?

[@truthseeker6804]

if you use ndfilter in low light to keep your iso at 12800, your image quality would be worse than the camera that doesnt use ndfilter and can stays at 3200 iso.

[@wakeywarrior]

@@hasenmyeruse picture profile 11 mate, it looks fantastic.

[@hasenmyer]

@@wakeywarrior everyone seems to like s-cinetone, wish I could say the same. I stay in standard when not shooting in slog 3

[@IdrisB]

Usefful video! My white balance is always off (kind of warm). How do you manage your white balance when shooting slog 3?

[@hasenmyer]

If shooting locked off I do custom with gray card..if on the go just pick sunny cloudy or whatever and leave it there..being able to download luts in camera has helped a bunch

[@enolamns]

Yeah its crazy, after all the Footage looks super grainy and noisy as soon as there is not enough light, no matter what you set the camera at. My experience without any hassle is just to leave it in intelligent auto with PP11 S Cinetone Profile. All in all the hype and marketing is much bigger than what the camera actually delivers.

[@MTKnockOut]

facts over priced

[@debashishsaha5751]

So whats the idea here, we should shoot slog3 at night but during day use normal mode (like S-Cinetone), (sorry I am a beginner, I dont know the correct terms)

[@hasenmyer]

You can shoot Slog3 anytime during the day. In general it is a great profile, but it takes practice to get good results. just make sure you are staying near the base ISOs of your camera and you should be fine

[@debashishsaha5751]

@@hasenmyer got it, basically when setting flexible ISO. Don’t set it to auto but set it manually. I am buying the ZV-E1 next week. So trying to learn as much as possible 😁

[@trevorwild195]

I just got it last week. No way it's a beginner's camera!

[@hasenmyer]

are you enjoying it? I think its great!

[@trevorwild195]

@@hasenmyer Coming from an A7c user, I have lots to learn, especially the Slog3 and that Log shooting thingy. It's quite confusing.

[@minaproduction7163]

Everybody knows that for several years already man ))

[@mdrock8787]

❤

[@truthseeker6804]

this sensor isnt useful for most use cases, as most people wouldnt be at 12800 iso. its an overrated sensor.

[@MTKnockOut]

facts

[@jundar73]

It is a fantastic camera with very good sensor. Just learn to use it properly.

[@MTKnockOut]

@@jundar73 i, not to sure, green is morphed into a blue tone, super high price, not weather sealed if anything i would have rather got the fx3 but reports are this is better, and I highly dislike the sony. I can tell the megapixel count from the image. its easy with distant items. Sony zv-e1 just doesnt have good sensor crop zooming auto framing is random and weak Better to do in post, with a 6kopen gate clip Sony isn't it I can factually see the results against my lumix g9

[@jundar73]

@@MTKnockOut The main reason I got it is filming in the low/very low light and a second 12800 iso is a God sent for me.

[@MTKnockOut]

@@jundar73 its too grainy for me ive tested everything and got two videos with decent grain but for the price this is a headache, Id almost trade it and loose the money for a cheaper camera its so bad I could have bought 3 drones and a 360 camera

[@MTKnockOut]

Yeah i bought this hoping to get no grain and its the biggest gimmick scam. Wish I got the S9 instead may just trade and give up the couple hundred dollars on the deal this is so pointless such a gotcha world the thing is title Gen Z