Sorts of INFJs (and what you can learn from them) (INTP)

They're hard to dislike. My closest friends usually end up being INFJs.
I'll make a video more positive on INFJs at some point. They're good at keeping your arrogance in check without needing to say anything. But self-preservation comes first.
Also: Discussing types' negative or concerning traits helps people type themselves. Anyone will relate with something positive. Spooky negatives make people go "no way, that isn't me" or "yikes, that's me."

[@Skimmerlit]

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[@yeniyeni7325]

Im scared what should i do

[@zeigfrydcat3097]

Well this was dark

[@ayyappanngr777]

He does this deliberately.. one thing i know from his video is his lack of understanding in his own motivation.. he doesn't like Ni.. he thinks he is the No 1 inteligent.. in MBTI Also he insecured about how good people are we (INFJs) he wants Fe like us

[@yepitsme7237]

Lol

[@waffensuperninja]

​@@ayyappanngr777an intp never wants higher functioning Fe. Its a nuisance if anything.

[@caleblechler8929]

Haha

[@caleblechler8929]

To me this looked more like he is using a type of Ti that Neglects Fe for maybe several reasons like this is the internet or he is just built diff. This type of Ti just spits fire, like truth it’s the sword. He is stating his observations which are likely biased just like everyone’s. He makes it clear though this is from his INTP perspective. If he was an ENFP he would have a different view point.

[@mariannenapisa5017]

As an Infj myself, ppl kinda talk about how infjs are kinda like control freaks or love the feeling of being control and I myself have also realized it. I like to be the leader in school projects so that I can organize and give people roles on they should do or not do. In general, I want everything to be in order and organized as what I've pictured in my mind and wherever something disrupts this order, I think my way to control this disruption. For an example a group member who didn't pass his/her part on time, I would decide to do it myself instead of waiting for that person to pass and grade his contribution on the task as 0-9. Another is, if that disruption is not within my control or I unable to control it, I kinda throw a tantrum or blame myself for not anticipating this situation. Of course, I would get mad for the one who disrupted my plan but I mostly like blame myself for not seeing that coming. I want to map out the possible events that might happen. So I try to think of this like "If this happens, we go with this and if it isn't we continue". I become strategic when it comes to handling people. I also have this INTP friend who loathes group projects because of how passive are his/her members on the project. So I asked if who were his/her group members and I privately chatted one of his members and gave him notes and etc. just to help out my friend about the project. And thanks goodness they followed all my instructions and finished the project. So In general, I'd say that I'm quite a control freak and become manipulative with good intentions or for the sake of helping a friend or someone who is very special to me. Those are the things that I've become aware of as an INFJ Sorry for the very long message again :'> I hope this info helps. Nice video and God Bless

[@valdaniels4078]

INFJ here. I normally don't comment on typology related videos, but I have to say this is one of the best descriptions/explainers of INFJ's dark side I've yet encountered. I relate to all three modes the author pointed out, with 2nd and especially 3rd being the modes I've been in consistently throughout my life, and the 1st mode also taking place every now and then. The detail work on the type and the explanations to each detail are brilliant, and I'm not gonna go into pointing out and explaining why, because I have very little to criticize. Perhaps, with the exception of the part where the author says INFJs don't seek opportunities. They actually do, but only within the frame of INFJ's integrity. This latter is hugely important to an INFJ. But the author alluded to this too, when he said INFJs desire a rigid frame of thinking, or something like this. This rigid frame is a strive for integrity, which INFJs unfortunately lack in this society, and as a result succumb to corruption in ways very well articulated by the author. Most INFJs don't actually study to perform well and persevere to understand life deep enough in order to have real integrity, instead of rigid non-sense based on their personal sense of inferiority coming from Fi critic. Great work. Bravo! P. S. Joseph Seed, a "satan" INFJ. Ahahaha Man I was always afraid to become this guy

[@Matchsticks96]

Great comment

[@Ashley-yy3de]

As an INFP, all of this social gymnastics sounds exhausting and kinda insane. It’s hard to believe that people actually live this way

[@sendukumeperla]

They dont! I am an INFJ and I have no idea what he's talking about! Nothing he's saying relates to me.

[@user-ok2kc6pi4d]

@@sendukumeperlaComing from a INFJ lol… you guys function like this without trying. The satan infj is real ✊🏻

[@kimngandong]

Nah. What he said is true. All the INFJ I've met were very dangerous but they just hide it well.​@@sendukumeperla

[@vera_nika2]

Infp here and my mom was an INFJ who helped the group dynamics, but NOONE ever lookedndown on her.

[@BlakeTran-ei3cl]

@@sendukumeperla Im an INFJ and I behave like this. You must not be a true INFJ - or 1 with low social skills. No disrepect here

[@MFrancis]

Still waiting for that 'positive' INFJ video😀That said, while you miss the actual point of INFJ-ness, you have some valuable insights into the INFJ darkside here. Keep INTP'ing Skimmerlit...

[@Subtleflashbang]

Fuck that noise. Positive INFJ almost is an oxymoron. You only exist to BE “loved”. Which is just code for absolute control over another person. INFJ: Insidious Narcissistic Fucked-up Jokers

[@eltris4478]

I think all mbti types have a dark side. He just described infj's dark side well. I'm an infj. I'm aware that I'm capable of manipulating people (that's why some call unhealthy infjs puppet masters) but refuse to act on it. Healthy infjs know other people's hidden insecurities & weaknesses but refuse to use these to their advantage because of strong Fe. Healthy infjs love to help people reach their potential.

[@taiwoidowu6635]

I've read some personal infj takes from this video. Here's mine. It felt to me that this video stemmed from a place of pain/hurt somewhat. I identify the most with the second and third 'sorts'. I was born wealthy but it in no way influenced my relationship with people growing up. My parents didn't spoil me and I was a good kid. I only realised we were slightly more well off when I started visiting friends and that's it. I didn't dress flamboyantly. My status didn't cross my mind as important. I feel, well to me, not as understood as I would have expected by someone who spent time seriously interacting with infjs. You talked about them playing a game of chess, to me it seemed you were playing by yourself thinking the infj was consciously participating in some mind game. My core as an infj was not even addressed in this video (this can make an infj withdraw because they remain misunderstood especially after the amount of effort it took you to make this) and it seemed like a reaction to a heartbreak rather than an actual intellectual deduction (for the most part). The attention given by an infj is for anyone and everyone they feel needs it. This is mostly from the goodness of their hearts. At least for me. My purpose is in fact to serve others. it was different seeing this particular take that I hadn't even considered or thought of. I was hoping you would have SEEN them instead of seeing what you THOUGHT they were. I am not the kind of person you deduced. I am only a few of those things. I resonate with the deep thinker infj and the 'satan infj'. You attributed our attention to being like a drug as though we're intentional about having some kind of control over you (some might be, there are evil versions of each personality type but not all of us are like this. I bet only a few are). Since I care for people and sometimes forget their faces since it was in the spur of the moment/reflex even, I can see how it may seem like it was not genuine and you're right I do care for anyone who needs it in the moment. Your video made me realise that those seemingly small acts of care may mean more than I had initially thought and might make them feel a type of way if it isn't consistent. I am guilty of this sometimes. But it is not intentional, not in the slightest. I wish you would have acknowledged our passions and desires as people and what we love and why we do the things we do. None of the things you mentioned ever provided an insight into the things that meant the most to us. We are focused and future-driven, everything we do is for an ultimate goal and purpose, one that is much bigger than us. Our ideals involve helping others. I cannot even define who I am without it involving the needs of others. I hope you heal from the hurt this infj gave you. but I suspect that a majority of your conclusions are self-deduced and not necessarily the truth you think it is. I have no ill will towards anyone. I only want to do what's right. One thing I know for sure is an infj will door slam you once you've emotionally drained them and they have done all they can to mend the relationship. A door slam is to prevent further hurt. You painted us infj as monsters but did you hurt this person before they closed the door? You said they were like a drug you kept getting high off, you kept getting, but did you ever give anything in return?

[@kalinadesseaux8011]

Second. "Healing come," and "door slam is only ever initiated to prevent further hurt, a last resort, when we have been drained completely and consitantly for far too long; and have seen that no other option will help.

[@pingu7471]

If you think about it, "Satan-INFJ" is kind of a cool title. I can kinda agree with the "emotional pain" part, however I don't think it's romantical heartbreak per se.

[@taiwoidowu6635]

@@pingu7471 He got hurt. I personally think it was a strong infatuation he had for this person probably because of how he felt with his interaction with them-all of which was probably new to him. He tried hard to connect the dots but it's nearly impossible to when these things we do come naturally to us, there's no instruction manual for our actions or the way we think. It's just the way it is. I can be kind to one person and be cold to the next, quiet one second and talkative the next. I can be as fierce as a warrior or as gentle as a dove, it all depends on the person. This dude got shocked by the inconsistencies. To him, it just wasn't adding up. Are you also an infj?

[@pingu7471]

@@taiwoidowu6635 Would be funny if you'd try to guess first

[@taiwoidowu6635]

@@pingu7471 Are you an xNTP?

[@tamir8501]

sounds like you've met all sorts of unhealthy infjs. i liked your points on blindspot Te. it's the the function i struggle with the most. im a very all or nothing person and the more i perfect something the more im revealed to see how much i dont know, making it hard to find something im good at in this world. something i can tribute to the world. i suffocate myself with doubts

[@pingu7471]

Me: Knows a nice INFJ Me: *waiting for the "nice" INFJ* Skimmerlit: So anyway, moving on to the Satan-INFJ...

[@pingu7471]

@@aladdout9454 Well, what a coincidence. Where are you living?

[@sendukumeperla]

Right? 😂 I am an INFJ and was waiting for nice things too! Got SHOCKED at what I was hearing...and cannot relate to any of it too😇

[@pentaq]

this film made me realise that each personality type only cares about satisfying its ego according to its definition of happiness, which is determined by its cognitive functions. The only thing I have encountered in my life that goes beyond this view of reality are the various traditions of spiritual teachings that say "there is more to life than the shit you experience as a personality type".and I am more and more inclined to believe it. our personality types are just a clue to realize that there is another level on which we are equal as humans. i don't know what the author's sources are for this video, very insightful by the way and different from most MBTI videos, but you are doing a good job for people on the path to self-discovery. congratulations.

[@lewomewo3480]

I guess in a way, everyone is uniquely different yet find themselves similar to most people on some levels. I usually treat these personality tests as somewhat of a general understanding of a person then explore more from there.

[@notMexican-cl9cr]

Wow sounds like I’m a shit🤔 3 sorts INFJ: 1. Obvious control freaks. 2. Inadequate control freaks. 3. Master control freaks.

[@imadeyoureadthis1]

Watched this twice. Eye opening experience. I'm an infj, depending on the people i am with i will behave differently. Especially the third category, I've done that and really well. Until this point i didn't even realize how dangerous it can be. How dangerous i can be. I truly believe i use evil in the service of good. Maybe that shouldn't be the case. I am my worst enemy. I want to be better but i feel like whatever road i take, there's positives and negatives. It's damm annoying.

[@tutu3909]

Meanwhile I am an INFJ who likes INTJs, and I cannot relate to any of these XD. I think these are your experiences or hunches at least ?!

[@tutu3909]

@@infinitelogicmachine8587 what do you mean ?

[@ArlichVomalites]

That's understandable, not all INFJs will relate to the things he said or they'll at least will relate to describing themselves with some of these traits at some point in the past, but I think these traits are just bad instances of his interactions with some INFJs, so it's kind of a biased rant/opinion.

[@thebooksofmbti4559]

We are so TE blind

[@Julioti]

Yeah I think the guy is full of shit.

[@tomdagger7507]

In my opinion, being understood comes from actually understanding people. Have you ever heard of a change of perspective? I can do it. One more thing about this weird video: The guy is hurt, he probably screwed an INFJ and the INFJ did his thing, that's my guess. In that sense, that's right. Second: INFJs are not liars and we strive for justice.

[@clomyst]

Those core concepts that you described is what you think are the core concepts. I hate how you have made so many infjs believe this is true about them. In reality, infjs are selfless in my opinion, if we shred all the layers, but of course many (lonely) intps will rarely understand this, cause they base their observations in analysis and disregard important components related to empathy, heart, humanity(some nurturing elements on which the world works and strives). I used to think i am this ego core when i believed that's how humans work. But i think now, what you described for cores are of the immature manipulative infjs. Humans try to take control when they don't understand universal give and take. Infjs as a base concept don't try to take control. Rather they give and not take from it to a point of exhaustion, that's when they realize being selfless is not ideal for survival and have no choice but to take too, or not give at all(doorslam when necessary). Selflessness is the infjs ideal goal and ideal world. And that comes from a place of love, not ego. Love is related to survical of all beings. So, even in evolutionary sense, love is the core of injs, not ego. I find people living in ego path to be immature and that they have a lot to learn before trying to analyze people based on those shallow understandings. It's so common for people misunderstanding infjs core intentions, cause people can't easily believe in good lol. This video is so unhealthy intp, and sadly also manipulative enough(unintentionally, cause intps think they know and tell that but it's just harmful advice) for so many infjs struggling with hard times rn. I hope they understand what you mentioned is not true and keep doing the positives. You abandoned entp/intp should either make an infj best friend. Being with them for decades will make you realize it's not ego(selfish human instincts). Cause it's not possible to not be truthful for too long, then you'll finally gain some actual insight on real infj core 😁

[@kalinadesseaux8011]

Thank you "Selflessness is the ideal world"

[@kalinadesseaux8011]

Yeah I'm sorry but I have to say I feel like this comes from a hurt or like information is missing-?. Core concept? Our top priority is deep connection. *That's it.* We don't swim in shallows. That's all there is to any infj. Shallow is boring, useless, and life is short. Also, reading ppl is an *unconscious* thing we do. It's more a akin to breathing. It's like 'I *see* 'dead' ppl.' we're human, not dolphin: we don't think about it. Which is y it's laughablly unreliable. We know it's unreliable, and spend the first half of our lives like: am I breathing right? Am I Ni-ing right? Show me anyone else who does this XD si users aren't like: 'am I smelling right?' I don't care about controling ppl hah, what an impossible endeavor. I don't want to 'get in' with ppl. Ppl are unpredictable, irrational, selfish and exhausting. If I look to control, it's just to avoid harassment. Even children try to get candy more effectively. *Mostly? I think we just want to be left alone.* If we don't tell you much it's not to hide or 'play poker.' We just have the experience and training that has shown us the sheer impossibly that anyone will actually understand us. So y bother? We are exhausted. We learn to protect ourselves- and who doesnt? We want to be moral and sincere, real and deep. and don't understand this world that tends not to be. We won't follow this world's trends towards immorality, not to look down on others but because we are literally sick of it. Maybe if this world was a little less *cough* we wouldnt have to be so eternally exhausted. 😅 Maybe if dreams could be achieved by talent alone and not by having to play the fame game, simultaneously, we'd get somewhere. *Like anyone, we try our best to do what we feel is right. And like anyone, we can make mistakes.* It's like we're not allowed to be -human.- we can't tell or control how ppl perceive us, we accept this. We're not masterminds, and are prone to being manipulated ourselves. This trend towards misconception is exactly y we are so careful. I've literally said things like 'i think they shouldn't kick puppies' and ppl have interpreted me to mean 'i think they should kick kittens'. Like no, that-? that's not what I said- ....😵‍💫??? *I look forward to your other videos* ;)

[@jaredharris1427]

I think it’s more about boundaries so that people don’t take up all of your energy. The only time I find myself trying to control outcomes is when the other people involved are too draining.

[@FranciscoSanchez-jk7ct]

This sounds like dark empaths with a high narcissistic trait🤔

[@drafer.s9494]

I think that too ...

[@ABC-jq7ve]

I don’t know, this all just sounds slimy and manipulative to me.

[@oracle__21]

This is a pretty interesting video. I learned quite a lot, I also learned quite a lot about the person making this assessment. But I will say, as humbly as I can possibly muster, your analogies are extremely flawed. Regardless of personality type every individual is fundamentally different. The core concepts on which you based the three forms of infjs are just inaccurate and extremely biased, they're literally based on your personal experiences, it doesn't mean it rings true, fundamentally, for every infj. In this video you literally made every Infj seem disingenuous, as if they all have ulterior motives for why they make the slightest bit of interaction with people. I'm not saying some things are not true, for example, in the case of the deep thinker infj, I can actually see that scenario happening with the intj, still, it doesn't ring true for every infj in this category you created. In my opinion, the third form of infjs you explained; the Satan Infj, is probably the closest to how most infjs really are...but here's where you got things wrong. As I observed throughout this video you tend to overanalyze things and try to find meaning where there's probably none to be found. Most Infjs, naturally, are in tune with their external environment. This includes people. They tend to pick up on cues, body languages, facial expressions, people's eyes, subtle gestures; things most people won't even notice. Because they tend to analyze and study people a lot, mostly unconsciously, they can easily pick up on how people are feeling. And since they can understand it, empathy can erupt from those evaluations which may prompt them to approach people depending on the situation and talk kindly to them, basically, they'll relate with you depending on what they think you need at that time. In that moment, the person in question might feel perplexed as to why this individual approached them out of nowhere, because infjs tend to be very perceptive they can make you feel better about yourself, say words they know might comfort you. This is the part it gets tricky. Similarly to how you described the feelings infjs can erupt in others as a result of them being able to understand them and make them feel good about themselves, it may indeed be likened to a drug. Let's be realistic, most people want to feel loved, want to feel understood, want to feel like they're the center of someone else's universe. An infj's ability to empathize and understand people with unreal accuracy may cause such feelings. Now this is where I'm going, I think the problem here might be INCONSISTENCY in the part of the Infj to continue to show interest in the individual or give as much attention. You have to understand, infjs don't have Fi, the emotions you are experiencing they do not feel it personally, because it was never their own to begin with, it was yours. So essentially in this video you were playing a game of chess in a system created by the Infj, but here's the problem, the Infj isn't even playing the game, you're playing it by yourself. The infj does not even realise there's a system to begin with, he's aloof and completely oblivious to it. The Infj experiences those things on a surface level, they just happen to understand your own emotions pretty well. And while you may be on cloud nine, all that is in the infj's mind is just to make you feel better in that moment. And once you are better, the attention may reduce or completely stop because they are detached emotionally. While you may think it's more than it actually is, to the Infj, it's just them being compassionate and selfless, no ulterior motive, no emotional attachment, remember, they're not feeling what you're feeling, they just understand it. That said, this is not to say that some Infjs will not use this knowledge to manipulate people's emotions, but the core concepts you mentioned in this video are just not true for a lot of infjs. It's not even that deep. Just like you said, they may be hard to dislike cause they come across as caring but don't invest your emotions and trick yourself into thinking the compassion is more than just that... compassion, for the most part. Remember, for an infj, they take in external stimulus (cues, behaviors, gestures, facial expressions), process it, analyze it, it is by virtue of them understanding it that empathy may erupt. If you've been hurt by an infj or infjs in the past, I'm sorry for that. But do not overgeneralise and brand off an entire subset of people based on your personal experience and your attempt to rationalize the motive behind their actions.

[@mokari9268]

Why are INFJ responses always so long…

[@oracle__21]

@@mokari9268 😂😂😂 Are you sure it's peculiar only to people with the infj personality type?

[@mokari9268]

@@oracle__21 no but every time I want to read an INFJ reply I just stop because they are usually so long. It happens so often, that’s why I said that.

[@oracle__21]

@@mokari9268 lol, alright.

[@ninal309]

I respect this view, but I didn't relate to the motivation in any of the categories. I need a lot of alone time, and if someone "needs" me, I feel uncomfortable and guilty. The attachment you described happened (mostly with Fi types), but these people targeted me in the first place. I tried to give them what I thought they needed (attention), but it got exhausting very quickly. What makes me happy is seeing people I like thrive, but not give attention all the time. I really don't see how that is a problem. My core motivation, I think, is to understand how things work and learn about life as much as I can. Life is too short for pettiness.. I have a few INTPs in my family, and the relations are very easy, live and let live attitude, hours of (interesting) talking on any subject, they are very funny. I think it always depends on particular people, not just MBTI type.

[@kswr2778]

this is 3tiers of very unhealthy infjs. infjs purpose here is to healing and helping people change the world a better place. not being manipulative and dark like evils hide beside.

[@zangoooz1]

This is why we love INTPs, they can understand us so well and read us as well, happy tears in my eyes atleast god made INTPs who can understand us upto this level. Thank you for existing INTPs. If one of the most intelligent types , that is INTPs, have something to say about INFJs, I bet there is some truth to it right. All of it which has been said in this video is so true to a fault, but I think since INTPs logic is so strong but Feeling function is weak, they can understand what we are doing, but maybe at some points be inaccurate to understand why we are doing these things, or like what is the intention behind the things we do. You're absolutely correct about the things we do, but I think it is also important to know why do we do what we do. Well I am not saying that INTPs should learn more about us or they are wrong if they are not pointing out the intentions behind our action, its absolutely fine, to whatever extent you understand us, for an INFJ, it is so much admirable, like you guys can understand us on deep level and it really brings happy tears in my eyes being an INFJ who has been misunderstood all his life. But, I am just putting up a point of view, I understand what you have said is absolutely correct, but suppose, if we are investing time in somebody, our intention is not that one day I will make them deprive of my presence and when they will want to need me more, it will make me happy, (although we know we have that superpower of that sort), but we actually invest time in people because we love them to their core, we want to know people to their core, we want to love from our core till their core and we love that connection, and that is our intention, to have that special connection with as many people as we can so that they will remember us as someone that came into their life and impacted their life in a good way, what I feel like our need for connection and need love people, these are our real intentions. This is true that we are aware of our powers and we know what powers we have over someone, that can make us feel happy and powerful, but that is not our intention, the intention is always good atleast for healthy INFJs. Also, if we treating someone badly, its not because we intended to treat them that way, this is our side which comes when someone breaks our heart or breaks our trust, we give our all, and in return if we get backstab and loss of trust, we lose it, and we apologize for it, this is one of the reasons we doorslam to maintain peace and harmony without me having to show them my dark side, and problems comes when people constantly cross those boundaries of door slam, we tend to lash out, we are really, we are really learning to hide our pain and not to lash out at people, but our intention is not hurt them or control them, the lash out comes naturally, rather our intention is to just keep them out of our lives and maintain peace. On the other hand, I completely agree that an unhealthy version of INFJ might do these things to hurt people purposefully to boost their ego and make them happy, but healthy INFJs, I believe they have good intentions all the way through, yes there can be times where they might enjoy that power over people, but that is not our intention, its just the power that we possess. I hope no one gets offended by this comment, the INTP that made this video as well, I hope this comment doesnt offend you, its just a point of view, and I apologise in advance I someone uncomfortable or offended someone by this comment.

[@lavendersunpool]

@PranayJha Thank you for this. I could not relate to most of this video, but to this comment I could relate. I believe the INTP lacks the empathetic side to their rational side and thus cannot fully understand the INFJ.

[@savvageorge]

​@@lavendersunpool I think INTPs who are more mature with a well developed Fe side can appreciate INFJs. We're both big-picture thinkers who use intuition with the goal of bettering ourselves and ultimately the community. INTPs manipulate ideas to improve communities, INFJs manipulate people.

[@brandytoupard1682]

I'm also an INFJ and completely agree with you.

[@candicehamilton2770]

Aw we love you guys too at least I really do

[@anniw.4737]

This is both terrifying and heart warming to read but us nfp’s are crazy in love with you infj’s regardless in fact as an infp I find this information fascinating

[@aangeldussst2120]

The creation of this video is backed by something. I can understand where a lot of this comes from to a certain extent, but the way this entire video comes off as “a matter of fact” kinda dulls out the video. It just makes it feel less believable. Kinda like those “5 signs you are a sigma male” videos on tik tok or something.

[@brianhales1416]

This here is more along the lines of a personal prejudice as having been crossed than to have any real sense of an honest analogy of a type in which incidentally is mistaken. This comes from a place of fixated contempt. I am an INFJ and none of these characteristics are nowhere near who I am in which you've stereotypically expressed passionately with hate. And as far as INTJ's go, my sister is INTJ and we have a balanced connection. Your heart must've been broken too feel this so strongly as to stereotype a class of people; which has proven to be humanity's flaw, rather than those who crossed you... or is there something missing from your life? We're flawed as humans with none excluded from this fact and yours is clearly evident. Do your self a favor and broaden your horizens for factual information as opposed to a rant of a biased nature and passing it off for insightful knowledge.

[@ArlichVomalites]

I very much agree with you, I mentioned in my other comment how some of his bias shows up in an INTP fashion, I'm familiar with it because I had similar interactions with some INTPs.

[@brianhales1416]

@@ArlichVomalites most be of a darkened nature as from what I've gathered of this type is that although their analytical views comes across as tactles; just as being frankly blunt, doesn't come across with this much emotional baggage. Perhaps I am wrong in this assumption based off of what is presented as a INTP. Personally, I just stumbled on MBTI personality test last. My sister known of it for years. These days I'm inclined to stay on my self made island away from people without needing anything from them. I've not lived a charmed life of a masquerade ball. I live a life whereas if anything given isn't took for granted. Of what I own was earned through my unwavering will not to give into a world dead set on devouring hearts. Blessings I've received along my travels were wonderful moments exchanged and although I may not encounter those wise souls again, their wisdom lives in me as they are honored throughout my life. Before cellphones people were more about the travel. At age 16 hiked from Ohio to Florida and from there, flown a jet to California and after a bit went to live in AZ. Things I thought I knew before traveling wasn't nothing compared to what I've learned from from the people I've encountered. Was a time I had a biased view and it was based off of personal issues eating at me with so much hate. I live by this "Don't allow this world to eat you inside out until there is only a shell of your formal self." "Every gear in a grandfather clock accounts for something." "How else would the hands keep time?"

[@Julioti]

Agreed, they're full of shit

[@Matchsticks96]

You’re not infj

[@almam.6880]

I'm not sure if you are describing a personality type or a personality disorder. A question: How did you reach a level of certainty to say something like " This is what ALL infjs do....", "Every Infj will.." ?

[@kryten09]

Thank you!! I've seen so many people think we're these perfect angels. We're not! We're human lol. We have bad days... We can judge, we feel lust.. we're not infallible. We do have some "powers" that many of us don't even know how we do it, it just "is". Intelligence agencies love people like us because we can "be anyone" and "no one". (I think it might be that "Satan" INFJ thing, grew up poor and in a mentally abusive household, always had to protect myself) I think a lot of who we are (just like for others) has to do with our age/maturity. It's only in my thirties where I feel I have a healthy balance of who I am, what I can do naturally and what my weakness are (that's why I say I'm a life long learner) Can definitely recognize the part of me that "pulls people in" and that's been tricky with relationships with women because I can see it's my paternalism that brings some women in. I also see the "Hitler" part of me that can get groups to follow me based on my morals, charisma and conviction and that's truly scared me to the point of....🤔 Actively holding that side of me back (cause it scares me). I know I can get people to "do my bidding" and that scares me. As I age, I just want to be considered "a good, well rounded man" when all is said and done. Always good at seeing people's potential and in subtitle ways direct them towards it. It's not "saving the world!" But it's "small ripples" of change. Oh and this is just a funny extra, I was in a relationship with an ISTP woman for many many years 😂 Even though we're just friends now, it was a worthwhile learning experience for us both.

[@tiaomaddicted2548]

why do i feel like you're talking about a personality disorders and not really infj.

[@frogfernforest]

This video made me laugh a lot. I spent most of the video thinking: well darn, maybe I'm not actually an INFJ, or at least none of these kinds of INFJs. One of my closest friends is an INTJ, and my husband is an INTP (8 year long relationship, still going strong). However, there was one nail you hit maybe halfway on the head. The 'rarely ever letting people see/know the inner you' thing we do. I do this a lot, and I've spent lots of time wondering why I do this... and I've realized it's a fear of being misunderstood and rejected. It's really hard for non INFJs to understand INFJs that's why, unlike with any other type, (with the exception of my husband), I've been able to click with INFJs instantly. We only let people in that we know will truly understand us, and if we don't think you can, we won't let you in. However, you saying this is a useful skill is probably only true If you are someone who can turn it on and off... Most of us can't though, which results in a great deal of self inflicted loneliness and self-loathing. I will say that loneliness stings way less than opening up fully to the wrong person and facing rejection as a result (this is why we are so selective). The fact that we are so misunderstood, helps us understand others, and drives us to want to give 'being understood' to others. Most of my arguments with friends, family, and my husband have stemmed from them misunderstanding me, it's an incredibly painful feeling for us and it's made even worse when we've gone through such great effort to understand you. Most of my argumenta with friends, family, and the husband have stemmed from me being misunderstood by them (we don' t mind being misunderstood on minor things, only when we are misunderstood in terms of giant core pieces of who we are that are so integral, we cannot change them). You can't force or chess work your way into an INFJ opening up to you, either they sense you'll get them, or they don't sense you'll get them. Tips? Perhaps just be kind and open, and don't come in with preconceived notions. We can tell when you're shocked by what you find when we let you in a bit, and when we see that we shut right back down again. There's me fully opening up under the guise of anonymity 😉 I do this with everyone.

[@SS-bu8ez]

INFJs aren't the most misunderstood type. I'd say INFPs are because Fi in general isn't understood or accepted. Yet they are more optimistic and easy going than INFJs.

[@frogfernforest]

@@SS-bu8ez I don't recall claiming that "INFJs are the most misunderstood type", if I gave that impression I'd like to let you know that wasn't really my intention. I was mainly giving descriptions of how I act and how I perceive things based on my interactions with other types and fellow INFJs, from my personal experience the only type that instantly "gets" me for lack of better word, are INFJs. I've watched lots of videos on INFJs and no one really ever gets it right. I do agree with you that INFPs certainly are very unique, but I'd argue that the more optimistic and easygoing qualities of INFPs make it much easier for them to make friends, and makes them much more likeable and able to bond quickly with various types, at least if they can get over their own self doubt and self created awkwardness. Nothing wrong with awkward though, and when they lean into it they are very funny and charming.

[@SS-bu8ez]

@@frogfernforest I don't know I think INFJs are better at knowing what people want to hear and so are able to tell people exactly that. While INFPs not so much so people can get offended.

[@frogfernforest]

@@SS-bu8ez yeah but telling people what they want to hear does not help to form a true bond or friendship with someone because you are never being yourself. In a way, not saying what people want to hear helps you weed out the people who aren't likely to be your friend, so it's kind of a good thing.

[@peytonhawkins1244]

@@SS-bu8ez I agree that INFPs are more commonly misunderstood, but INFJs suffer the most from this misunderstanding. Because INFJs are so naturally inclined to help and understand other people, they are heartbroken when they feel the people they open up to are unable to understand them. INFPs are in the constant state of being misunderstood, and adapt to living in this way. They are not concerned with understanding other people (for the most part), and so they do not feel the injustice that INFJs experience when they are misunderstood because of how much INFJs do this for other people. INFPs and INFJs learn to not expect people to understand them, but INFPs can find ease knowing that they are not understood, and in fact feel validated in this way. Their emotions and identity are for them to have - not for other people to explain their emotions/identity for them. This may be why INFPs seem to be more optimistic and easy going than INFJs.

[@theultimatedisciple7974]

Pretty accurate but yeah this is definitely a bad picture of us 😂 please understand that everyone else ultimately getting their cake and eating it is part of our cake...we’re just highly selfish about it at times 😅

[@VisualFeast7557]

Level 1: Shirley Temple Level 2: Arthur Schopenhauer Level 3: Adolf Hitler

[@SS-bu8ez]

Hitler wasn’t an Infj. He could plan for possibilities.

[@VisualFeast7557]

@@SS-bu8ez That's why Germany fought in Africa, the Balkans, and Russia (1941-1945), at the same time, and had to capitulate in the ruins in the end, right?!

[@sash8099]

@@VisualFeast7557 Still doesn't make him an Infj man. Without a miracle I don't think an Infj has that kind of power to brainwash and command an entire nation especially with such a dogmatic regime. He was NT not NF.

[@VisualFeast7557]

@@sash8099 He let his feelings loos, even though his speeches were rehearsed. His feelings towards other groups resonate with others, he captured the emotional state of society, and push his anger using this state. And he had lots of helpers besides him to help him come into power. He didn't care for himself, had mental problems that pushed him and Germany into the abyss.

[@sash8099]

@@VisualFeast7557 NTs have feelings too, they are not all emotionless zombies. I mean look at Napolean an Entj and how his emotions clouded his judgement and lead to his defeat.

[@Thilosophocl3s]

This feels like an origin story... of a Satan INFJ... seriously is this some kind of satirical attempt at humor? I was never given anything in this life. Nor do I have any instinct to "get in" with anyone. Controlling people is exhausting, actually impossible, and frankly immoral. What's the fucking motivation behind any of this? Break? I'm a fucking fixer by nature...

[@grazynawolska8160]

INTJ- INFJ relationship is tricky. Because the Ni of one keeps peering into the other in circles and vice versa. It takes a lot of trust and forgiveness on both ends. Infj needs to forgive my bluntness and I need to let go their inefficiency in action and not doing things like they're suppose to. Normally I don't care but it hurts when I rely on them to Te take action and for the both of us, and they don't. It can be wonderful friendship if both can accept the uneasy feeling we create by Ni reading and being on the receptive end of it for once. INTJ-INFJ when it doesn't work is very close to how you described but not exactly. The infj with Ti will get 1000 degrees so that they can say they are smart, all because they are insecure in their Ti. Weak Ti makes them get those degrees. They make a terrible boss because they never share what is Te expected or what the Te plan of action is. You're just expected to know out of thin air. They also don't give constructive feedback because Fe don't want to upset people. Never work for an infj is the lesson here. Intellectually insecure without a plan is how I'd call it. It feels disorienting when your boss doesn't share expectations or goals or anything... yet an unspoken expectation is there but they won't say what it is. This type of infj doesn't give a crap about you, they just wanna make themselves look good. So what they do is take work from other departments and keep piling it onto you so thst they can take the credit for the work and looking good to other managers. They hope to advance by incuring favors but only on the backs of their already overworked workers. And they will take anything like you could be working in IT and suddenly now youre also expected to do payroll and accounting, and stay hours late without pay to do all that, because the infj needs another ass to lick to incure favours. It's abusive and exploitative of their employees. Like I said, never work for an infj. It's true... the infj can be arrogant in their sharp Ti ideas (that they never share) and when they try to share them they can feel and be ridiculed or feel stupid because their ideas are weak and lack development. 1000 degrees on the wall doesn't mean anything if you can't present 1 functional idea. I think this is because they never test an idea. It's amazing to me how they don't plan an idea out like they don't think like "oh I'm going to demand this set of actions" but won't write down a simple chart of logistics of where these steps will take them and evaluate the plan before presenting. INTJs do this step mentally before presenting so it may look like we are doing it on the fly but we aren't. I so agree the infj will turn the group against the intj but only after they tried to manipulate with Fe and intj resisting this manipulation, if we resist, they Fe manipulate the group instead. And you're right the way the intj fights back is logistics, because we're masters of systems not people, but it's more finesse than your analysis. The intj will make the system the group depends on so efficient and dependent on intj that the system falls appart without them. The intj will also speed up the system so when it crashes without them it crashes deep and bad. I guess how you described going nuclear. INTJs just instinctively know systems and patterns and how systems depend on themselves and actions and they can be wondeful for you organization or they csn destroy from within. All i really wanted as intj, to make a more efficient system so thst the other workers (and me) would have an easier time at work with less stress. INTJs can care deeply about people and help them by imporving the system or finding loopholes to get you through but youll never know it because we dont seek Fe validation for this action. We just want to help via system. But because we know every detail, we can also break the system if you make us angry. The intj will also highlight what role they played in running the functionality of a system so that the infj knows when all hell breaks lose and everything fell appart is because the infj did it to themselves via getting rid of the intj who was the one running things all along while the infj was busy licking those butts. It's not that intj wants to cut off opportunities, but more like highlight infj incompetence as a leader that accomplishes nothing. Does thus have any effect? Well the infj ends up looking more of a Ti fool which is what the intj wanted. I disagree that infj doesn't want opportunities they absolutely do, at least the Ti types... they want to be seen as smart. Remember this is their insecurity, and ultimately, their weakness.

[@jcharlie6466]

INTJ here. Found this very relatable

[@grazynawolska8160]

@@mrityunjayagahlot6085 yes, is why I often say that infjs have a far deeper capacity to be emotionally manipulative and frankly cruel than intj.

[@imadeyoureadthis1]

@@grazynawolska8160 I'll talk mainly for myself not for other infj's. I mature slowly. I have a big capacity for evil. I recreate possible outcomes hundreds and thousands of times and in most cases it's disasters that i think about. I almost never find others like me, so i have to learn how to be happy while i am alone. I spent so much time alone and inside my head that i lose track of reality. Many times i see others as animals. I tell people what will happen. Bad thing happens, they run around like headless chickens because they never learned how to face the darkness. They forget what i told them, they just give in to panic. When they see me not panicking like them, they think i am evil or have no idea what is happening. I am a people's watcher. I learned how to keep my composure because i overcame my anxiety and fear. When people get anxious, their sympathetic system activates. Their wide vision stops, the narrow vision starts and they focus on one task like a robot. I can essentially delay my anxiety because when the bad thing happens, i need to control the disaster so i change mode. More often than not i am disappointed in them. My capacity for evil is smaller than my capacity for good. I am a babysitter. That's how i see things. I am awkward, weird, look out of place, i mature way slower than the people around me and have made many mistakes. But when i learn something, i learn it to a point of almost perfection. No room for error. Everything becomes as efficient as it can be after all the simulations i conducted in my head. I won't explain my plans because it drains my energy. When i don't explain my plan, people freak out. When they freak out, their sympathetic system activates. Fear. And then they associate this fear with me. So they end up not liking me not because i am evil, but because i sacrifice their feelings for the greater good. I prefer to upset 1 person than 10. In most cases it's me, but sometimes someone else. My actions speak louder than my words. People at work have a hard time comprehending how i work. I do more work than other people in ways that don't make sense for them. The manager even told me this month that he doesn't understand how i do so much work and in such an ordered manner. It really feels like i have a mask on. There's no textbook how to get it off and there's none helping me because in order to help me, they have to understand me. They don't do the effort because they have to go deep. People generally don't want to connect and instead prefer superficial connections. I also think that maturity accelerates when there's someone evil around me. Like sucking all the evil from them and then finding ways to counter it. I made a lot of mistakes but i believe i am a better human being than what i was. I prefer to be alone because people are predictable. If i want to help, sometimes i have to damage someone first. The end goal is for their own benefit. As time goes by i am getting better at existing. I communicate with others a lot better. I don't manipulate as much and i am trying to express myself and my version of truth. I take into account other people's feelings a lot more than i used to. My worst aspect is how invisible i am which i try to correct. People will pay attention to me when i do something bad or crazy. When i was younger they could never see the good i did because i was so bad at showing it. I felt guilty if i showed my love for the world because it felt disgusting. I did good for good, not to show it. But the thing is, you need to show it otherwise it goes into a void. You want to understand an infj? Ask them to give you their heart. But do it in a relaxed environment when there's only you and them. Because if there's more people involved, they have to predict how their words will affect each individual. Damage their heart enough and you'll see evil incarnate. But if you don't damage it and instead accept it, we'd die for you. I want to help but what i come to realize as time goes by is that i can't help anyone, all i can do is hold up a mirror. People don't want to get better, they want long lasting safety even if it's a detriment to their health and being. I really have no idea what to do in my life. I desire purpose but it's hard to get satisfied. I don't understand any of it but i really really want to. Growing up i felt like a broken toy. Things are better now and i am grateful for it. I know there's more to it, I'll never stop searching. My willpower in that aspect is immeasurable. I see the evil in other people's hearts and it makes me want to escape this planet. I am still unbalanced. I don't understand how other people can just overlook evil so easily. I know they see it i just wish it wasn't that way. Pretty sure i overlook my own evil too and i manipulate more than i think i do. And my comment probably has that manipulation too. I have a desire to get better, it's just confusing/hard/idk.

[@valdaniels4078]

Very mixed comment. Some things are accurate like INFJs are very bad in management, which can only be amended if they have read 50 books on management or actually studied it to be a manager of people. Expecting Te from INFJs is unwise and overall doesn't make sense, because INFJs are about improving other people's character and leading them with the integrity an INFJ possesses. But unfortunately in this society many INFJs cannot find integrity and therefore cannot stick to it in order to be useful to society in this way. "The infj with Ti will get 1000 degrees so that they can say they are smart, all because they are insecure in their Ti. Weak Ti makes them get those degrees." -- That is inaccurate. INFJs actually don't care about credentials, and if you've seen those that do, they only do that, because they've seen certain people not willing to heed their message, because they don't have a "standing" or evidence of their competence, aka credentials. And because INFJs very often have inferiority complex due to Fi critic telling them that they are worthless, they start to pursue credentials so that all/most people would choose to listen to them. Such INFJs need to check their attachment issues and fix them, but good luck finding an INFJ in this society that accepts themself, with that Si demon neglecting their needs and Fi critic telling them every day they wake up that they are worthless people. Getting degrees because of inferiority of their ideas is actually Te parent - Ti critic dynamic. That Ti critic tells ITJs they are incompetent and don't know what they're talking about, and so they go get that necessary knowledge with Te parent, get those degrees. So it's a nice INTJ projection there. Ti child is actually quite secure (unlike Ti inferior), but Ne nemesis worries INFJs to no end that that Te trickster is ignorant. This is a worry about the consequences the lack of input may bring, not INFJ's ability to think for themselves. Ti child is actually confident (often more than it should), and with the right input actually ends up being more accurate than Ti parent. Never tell an INFJ that they are stupid or that they have weak thinking, unless you want them to stop being friends with you.

[@onimusha13]

What a great video. Really, great great video. I fit the most the deep thinker archetype and what you've described about all INFJ types is true to its uttermost core. It's just amusing seeing that some types will amiably own up their badness, freakiness and just being a stuck up fool or a control freak - even in a sassy way. But no, in the INFJ videos it's always about - "who hurt you?". Which really proves your point. But your train thoughts are fascinating, some of the most honest, realistic takes and the reason why I need INTPs in my life.

[@a1r1ny3]

As an INFJ I do not agree with these core concepts you talked about in the first 6 minutes, at least I'm not like that at all... I can relate to the fact that ppl reach me to listen to their problems but otherwise, it sounds very evil and manipulative. I do not play like that with reading ppl easily, I do it unconsciously and helps me to help others and try to understand them better, just with good intentions. Maybe you should not stereotype...

[@CC-nm9jy]

Learned new things about infj and myself, so thanks. You explained in a measured and careful way that I could easily follow. Also liked the black screen and stormy aesthetic in the background 👌

[@safe957]

Wait till you see an ENTP with well developed demon functions

[@starkydaniel]

The rain really makes me feel more inclined to listen along because I can also space and listen. INFJ

[@Just-99me]

I’m an infj who uses a lot of Ti but also relates to the satan description I have 2 other INFJ friends but we disagree on many things. I don’t feel fully understood by them they can be clingy while I can be detached and prefer my alone time , also When we discuss topics I see that they’re so judging while I can see things from different point of views. Here is a description of myself hope someone can relate because I this point I’m starting to believe I’m not an INFJ (even tho I did a lot of cognitive function tests resulted intp intj INFJ ) I would describe myself as self aware from a younger age I always wanted to discover more about myself , always wanted to be free from any expectations or responsibilities that included other’s emotions, I’m nice and find it hard to set boundaries with people than I regret it, I respect other’s boundaries so I always think they will respect mine but unfortunately they don’t. I’m never demanding in friendships or relationships I don’t like people depending on me and I don’t like depending on others . I can be lazy but when I set a goal I will reach it no matter what I have sharp focus , never compared myself to others never jealous never in a competition with no one(only if they wanted me to compete with them) I don’t like to show of or brag or make people feel stupid, i can be manipulative sometimes , talking too much drain me (I feel tired just writing this comment ) I can’t understand myself most of the times. I think What I love most in life is freedom because I change my mind frequently so I need the freedom of choice. I don’t feel like I belong to a place or a person and I feel trapped if I do so .

[@jeffs_r_us7166]

Man you just described me too. (Also an infj). I literally have nothing to add.

[@Just-99me]

@@jeffs_r_us7166 i related to your comment on this video too , i think I’m just like you , I help my loved ones but keep them at arms length specially romantic relationships when someone gets too close it overwhelms me,I have avoidant attachment style 😞

[@jeffs_r_us7166]

@@Just-99me yeaah, it’s such a strange and annoying feeling ://. Well at least we can struggle together 🥲

[@Reu8enofleon]

20:00 onwards describes pretty much the entire conflict between Xavier and Magneto in the Xmen saga

[@thoarnejones6805]

Magneto is more ENTJ than INTJ. But basically yeah. I had a similar experience with an INFJ. Crazy enough we still ended up having a very cordial relationship after he stabbed me in the back. I was just able to anticipate what to expect from him.

[@eliotsfm]

I have recently made contact with an INFJ after years of not talking to them. I originally GTFO of that situation because my intuition was just screaming this person is fucking manipulating and egotistical under that visage. Years have now passed and compounding that with the gaslighting/veil memories I thought reinstating contact would be a good idea. This video has come at the exact moment of the discarding/put down phase, I am so fucking grateful for this video as you have basically prevented utter disaster for me becoming too attached again and I can’t wait to flaunt my indifference to their measured help 😂Thank you dude 🙏

[@lxf9914]

The commonality and crucial detail to the INFJ personality is the objective x. Whatever that vision is (which takes time to hash out creating years of wandering/idle time) is what their legacy will be. Whether to save the world (Jesus) or to redeem Germany and cast out the Jews (Hitler), that defining x-factor is pivotal. If the INFJ never defines for themselves their x objective, they will forever be wanderers. The INFJ is both king and vagabond depending on when in their trajectory you meet them.

[@kookimonstai576]

Very one dimensional and biased “analysis”. Seems irresponsible to be describing a type like this - I guess your type isn’t compatible with INFJs. I wonder if it’s an eneatype thing. There is a much different tone when you describe ENTJs though. So I’m guessing you prefer Te over Fe by a long shot and are probably more familiar and trusting of it in comparison. Which honestly shows laziness and lack of effort to understand something that you may be a little more uncomfortable with.

[@thinkinghippie4549]

Great video. I'm an INFJ, i can find myself in all 3 in different stages of development. You did paint a really bad picture about us, but not going to lie, i admire your honesty on this topic. I gotta say, I just don't agree that we are not capable of generating ideas. Dominant Ni can very well delve into the subconscious and extract ideas from there. It might not be completely original ideas, but it might be something really personal, probably unlike anything else. You are right that we create ideas by external sources but Ni still can work in isolation in my experience. The only thing is that those ideas, if they're in isolation, will be incomprehensible and delusional to an average person and even other intuitives. I don't know, i think that Ni can generate really wild ideas, that's all i'm saying. If i can say anything, that is that i'm an original thinker. I have schizoid PD so i tend to isolate myself on purpose, since i get absolutely tired of people and despise them most of the time as i'm completely incompatible with them. Maybe that is the reason why my ideas are completely original, because i might not be utilizing Fe. But oh boy, my Ti is the most r/imverysmart thing ever. Everything else in the vid is kinda on point.

[@Skimmerlit]

Yes. I've wanted to discuss the strange ideas in INJs' cores for a while, but I have zero idea how. There's nowhere to begin, and I couldn't make the discussion valuable outside "these are confusing curiosities." One INFJ woman I spoke with a couple years ago was obsessed with marrying an INTJ and creating the "ultimate intuitive" via eugenics. She was deadly serious about it. What confused me was she was 100% coherent, thoughtful, and reflective, too. An INFJ I dated revealed once (once) the places her mind went during serious discussions. I thought I was beginning to understand her, and that revelation set me back to square one with zero idea what, why, or how that image worked or what it meant. Those revelations are unsettling. I don't understand them. I stopped trying. What would the point be? Easier to say "this is something that happens; prepare" than "this is why it happens; learn." I'd *like* to understand, but no INFJ I've ever studied would *ever* open up to that level without complete anonymity or something approaching "absolute" trust. The effort isn't worth the payoff.

[@jessenceq3250]

@@Skimmerlit Hi, long time listener here. I consider myself open and courageous (taking a step despite lotsa fear), moreso as times goes on. I'ma E6. Even if sometimes it paints me in a bad light or I will be met with disdain or misunderstanding or worse, a feeling of helplessness. Especially with my INTP friend, as I have come to understand that having an accurate picture is important. As to not trick. Plus I don't really get to decide what someone likes or doesn't like... And he is a breadcrumb riddle labrynth himself but I love every minute of it, except for when a direct conversation would create better mental cohesion or acceptance. If I may ask, how do you know the payoff isn't worth the investment? How can you know how valuable the fragrance is if you've not given the allotted time for the flower to open up organically in its own time? What is your reason, your "why" to understand INFJs? Perhaps you can utilize a better reason to withstand the perceived pointlessness. I'm not sure what new piece of information you'd need to overcome any Si limitations. Or if you even want to. I have observed that when we as humans short cut the process, we short circuit the product. I am socially motivated. If someone genuinely believes in me, I will do my best to return their investment multifold. I will work on myself -- vulnerability, being disagreeable, or cultivating more realistic expectations, to name a few. I also strongly hope to support another to be who they truly are, which is not something I get to decide. And ultimately, the more honest and pure part of me doesn't believe it's "all me" that makes me or learning about me worthwhile. We all are puzzle pieces and have our purpose. Ivy is often underestimated, just like shouting for seven days straight around and around a building was. lol It's nice for people to not cut us down before we've finished our work. Time, lots of it, is vital. I'm not even going to look back on this to edit it 😅

[@marissag.Vs_winterbear]

@@Skimmerlit I did feel like I got read to filth when you stated your observations. I am most likely the mid tier INFJ. You are very correct with the need for trust that some of us have. I have very close friends, but I don't open up as much as I'd like to. My ability to read is okay and so is my introverted Thinking. The ego part...is true, but it's the give give give (even if we don't really want to) and noone to give back the energy we invested in others for it, which can be our own doing ( causing the doorslam).

[@jeffs_r_us7166]

Infj here. Damn, “satan” infj… are you saying these are the only three types of infj? I did relate a lot to the second and third tier, I felt your honest thoughts were genuinely not only interesting but maybe eye opening (I think I still need to properly reflect on everything you said though), because, maybe it’s due to Ni, but I really can’t tell how other people truly perceive me. There’s always doubt in my mind, so it’s cool to get your opinion. And with that, there’s something I feel like I could add to what you’ve said. In my life I’ve experienced getting close with people, I guess how you described “having” someone, but then I want to control the power I have over them, how much they need me (if they even do). But it’s not out of convenience to me. I had one friend, she was pretty cool, we weren’t super close. But there came a point when it felt like we finally clicked, and then all of a sudden I was super uncomfortable. I wanted to do the whole “pick up and drop off”, I didn’t want her to… need me? Want me? it’s not because I was trying to get something out of it and I finally did, if you can even say I had a goal, it was the level of closeness we finally achieved, so I was frustrated and confused with myself for being uncomfortable with it, and backing away. I think, rather than a tactic of manipulation for the sake of self-gain, we infjs enjoy being that shoulder to cry on and making people feel better. But, we like to do it at arms length. But we also, like you said, appreciate the gratification, and unless we’re fine with hurting people out of the lack of regard for the effect we have on others, if we want to achieve our goals of bringing people happiness, we need to forego the self esteem boost from having people need you, and just be happy helping when we can. I think “satan” is a bit harsh, but pretty funny. One thing for sure is that with our strategy being “constant improvement”, I’m not in it to keep making the same mistakes and always get the same rewards and consequences. We understand pretty deeply how other people feel, what makes them tick. But I think that comes at the cost of not really knowing that about ourselves, or at least how to articulate it to others. Thanks for the video! Definitely food for thought. I’d really love to discuss this, too. Also. If you want to get us back. We’re pretty easily manipulated, if you use our desire to, like, make you feel better. Just say please and thank you and you can get infjs to do random favors for you lol. Also also, maybe a reason, besides everything else, that infjs don’t really open up is that we set our own reactions up to be the standard we want from others. We know others feel understood by us, but a lot of the time they don’t or can’t give that understanding back when we do explain ourselves. So then we open up less because we expect disappointment, so then people understand less, so on. Maybe. Maybe not 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@waffensuperninja]

I am a satan infj. I didnt know that until listening to this video. Thank you for that. I went toe to toe with an intp at my workplace...there was a lot of fallout. Consider it an unstoppable force v an immovable object. We are now best friends. 15+years of good friendship. Thanks skimmerlit.

[@djpon392]

As an INTP once having an INFJ "satan" type in my life this is pretty spot on. Started off great, they quickly became one of my closest friends, I felt comfortable being around them, and for once, not drained from hanging out constantly. This became the norm for a while, roughly spanning I'd say a few months. I had a driver's license, they did not. I spent my time driving them wherever they wanted to go, doing what they wanted, basically a personal driver and "fun time" friend. Which I didn't mind, I don't go out much so it was a change in pace especially just coming out of high school. The cockiness was the fall truly, they wanted to go hiking on a rainy day, I said it was dangerous and I didn't want to but we could still hang out, I come over and the passive aggressiveness was unbearable. This was the start of me unravelling the web, but was truly amplified when they began to date my best friend of all time (ENTP) who lived in Texas at the time, right after they told me they don't do long distance, nor date men. They hid this information from me and my friend was the one who initially told me about their relationship. I was inevitably forced into a third wheel position that was a terribly awkward place to be in. The rigidness and lack of consistency/transparency gnawed away at me and eventually I stopped caving into demands and they stopped reaching out once they noted I was no longer useful.

[@pobodysnerfect2635]

I haven't been able to stop thinking about this video. Initially I had a very emotional reaction and I cried in the shower the next day (still thinking about it). It sounds crazy but it really freaked me out because I thought this must be a very small amount of INFJs but then the comments had people saying it described them. I guess I've calmed down now but it's so much to process. I thought that I should avoid NFJs because of stuff like this, but maybe I was overreacting? I mean obviously I don't want to deal with someone who is like the "Satan" INFJ but that's a given. I just don't want to go around living in fear that people on the street or the bus are twisted or transmitting evil energies at me or something 😭🧿 🙈🙉🙊

[@Skimmerlit]

Feelers are wild. Most people are awful, but good people are out there. Don’t think about it, and don’t trust an internet know-nothing’s opinion on anything.

[@jessenceq3250]

I agree. This was so dark, a vexed spiritual vibe, and painted INFJs with such a broad brush. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater from what I could tell. And possibly being carelessly damaging of Ti child. This flared up CPTSD in me and for a time, entertained the idea of what if I'm just an illogistical idiot, useless, possible unconscious monster who deserves to rot alone. Super empowering stuff, making me want to be a better person. (Not...) :/

[@jessenceq3250]

Skimmerlit, while you reason to share this may have been to protect your brethren from pains you yourself know, or to perhaps help INFJs see themselves more honestly or understand the impact they have, your Ti deconstruction destruction and Ne observation/chaos was not balanced. How does this perceived truth build up from the deconstruction? Truth without grace and tact is ineffective, and sometimes cruel. People need to be able to hear and receive your words. I'm not asking you to not share your truth, but to share it responsibly. I don't know everything, maybe you had some strategy, maybe this is leading somewhere, maybe I missed something painfully obvious to others, but I see it like this: people are here, who maybe you would care for if you truly knew them. And you may have caused some damage that you may not have the opportunity to repair. I know this may not fall on your understanding as I hope it to, but I trust the truth is strong enough to arise in the end (whether in favor of my perspective or not). I'm trying to formulate ways to logically explain why it was unhelpful and creative solutions to consider to make it more helpful. May message you later, contingent on if you actually have good intentions. I don't want people to hurt unnecessarily. It's true humans are more awful than they dare imagine (not just INFJs), but they are also LOVED more than they can imagine. Human brains are wired for love, not an abyss of fear.

[@whatno.6007]

Don't worry, skittish types like you bore us to even compel us to start scheming your demise let alone get us to initiate knowing *you.

[@Whimsy3692]

It depends on the intent of the INFJ. If you are trying to broaden your circle of friends and _(honestly)_ are trying to get a unique opinion from an INTJ, I don't see why INFJs would be labelled as "Satan INFJs." Unfortunately, it looks like this person has had a very bad experience with an INFJ with underdeveloped thinking. Who was nuts and threw a fit whenever they found out they couldn't use their thinking to combat INTJs. But to be honest, like that one episode of FRIENDS, where Joey said to Phoebe, "it is _impossible_ to do a selfless good deed." Why do people fall in love and marry? Well. You apparently want something from this person. You want to feel loved and important. No matter how selfless you are/seem to be, no relationship or person will ever be entirely selfless. Phoebe goes ahead and gets stung by a bee on purpose. Then she calls up Joey and says she deliberately got herself stung to prove him wrong. Joey then informs her that bees die once they sting you. That's a sloppy example, but it's the only one coming to mind at the moment. So what exactly earns the insidious title, if we haven't done anything wrong yet? I'm just genuinely curious. It looks like the "Satan INFJ" just enjoys fucking with people. This looks like any sort of manipulative psychopath, and it doesn't have to be an INFJ. If the INFJ "wants something" from the INTJ, why pull up the curtain in the first place? Read that last sentence again. If the INFJ is continuously getting something good, or if it's what he/she wanted, then why bother revealing their plans in the first place? I used to be very "possibility blind," but until spending lots of time with a TJ type, and having it pounded into my head of every feasible thing that could go wrong that I've overlooked, I've learned to be more observant with concrete fact, rather than guessing and relying on my "mystical psychic powers," so to speak. Is this when the INFJ perceives that the INTJ has said something so upsetting, that they try to combat them? Because it seems like the only thing I can think of that will make them raise the curtain in the first place. *A lot* of INFJs will immediately resort to doing that. That's because they have no better argument to combat facts and logic. So they. That's probably why he labelled them the "Satan INFJ." But that's dirty and stupid, not to mention impractical and not helpful. However, up until that point... the INFJ isn't doing anything wrong. So they got 'into the club.' Big deal. What if it was with good intentions, not bad ones? And even if it was for bad intentions, I come back to the question, "why reveal yourself to be a villain if this person is giving you what you want?" After spending a lot of time with a narcissistic person, and ambushes everything with the thinking function, your feelings become numb, and you actually enjoy taking in new perspectives and ideas. It's a blessing and a curse. It's one of the reasons why I enjoy BBC's _Sherlock_ a lot, lol. He comes off as an asshole, but over time, you get to see why he thinks the way he does. I enjoy learning about how the INTJ thinks and they do have their place in the world. But it looks like this is describing when an INFJ with underdeveloped thinking gets offended by the INTJ, and it turns insidious. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. (John Watson does this a lot with Sherlock). But once you learn not to get offended, you can have some really good conversations with the INTJ.

[@yepitsme7237]

Lol It’s like you want us to relate to the “satan-infj”

[@yeontaniee1568]

oh, intro took me aback, not relatable to me, I have to say I do feel better than the average person, but I don't stick around with people that I don't consider around my level. As mean as it sounds, I despite being surrounded with idiots, that's why I personally don't relate to that intro. 1. Gummy INFJs, related to the part which says I got alot landed to me forever however I'm like the least entitled person ever, I feel bad when I ask for any service 2. Logical INFJ, pretty relatable except the INTJ part, I get along well with my INTJ but I do am manipulative with everyone, I like opening up to strangers/online and share deep conversations, it feels really great, I want to do the same with friends but somehow never really happened of rarely. Also I feel like I used to use Fe so much more 2 years ago but since a traumatic event, I've been calculating my every step, I fear that thing happening again and I've been using Ti so much I think I'm lost alot of my Fe capacities or wtv u call it 3. Satan INFJ, man if only I had control over all my functions lol

[@kurtrosenthal6313]

I’m an intp and watching your videos on INFJs has showed me that my new boss is one and I had not been understanding their actions until now.

[@RachelL421]

Wow, this is alien to me as an INFJ. Sounds a bit bitter to me, like you’ve had some bad experience and extrapolated to a whole type.

[@beep954]

as an intp loved your logical pov. keep making vids dude ur so good at it one intp to another lol

[@Elven.]

ok idk I have play the "poker game" because everyone else is playing their stupid poker game and trying to screw me over. I share myself with people who get closer to me not strangers I don't precisely like control, I despise stupid people gatekeeping my way though. I doorslam only when people refuse to have meaningful and real connections, or when they are irrevocably toxic. and "Gimmes INFJs"???? I had to teach myself how to recieve from others for years and it still feels a bit difficult at times. However, know when I put in the effort and I should see a result. Fake deep thinkers?? I ha..... who did you meet dude? we hate INTJs? I have an INTJ friend who's the only reasonable one and I love her

[@rikki_hwang]

So, I'm not sure how it works. But I guess I "leveled up to the Deep Thinker infj from the Give me infj" recently. Now I'm interested in how I become a healthy infj with a good way to go

[@hakuu4644]

Can I ask why you're not a fan of Ni? I'm not judging you, I'm just curious

[@vigialuis1882]

From someone who's not yet sure if INFJ or INTJ, this is conforting if I'm to be an INFJ for I hate how soft and weak INFJs are.

[@heratheteaspiller7681]

Strange ?! Do you like INFJs or do you not ?!

[@Cuteemogirl94]

Read the description XD

[@heratheteaspiller7681]

@@Cuteemogirl94 He changed it, it wasn't this title.

[@Violet_Odorata]

INTP knows their likes and dislikes?

[@amystery9028]

I can't believe this was posted today. I just came across this video and I've never related to and been called out so accurately from a video. This is the side of me that I've refuse to accept - I feel like I've had to hide this as in my 22 years of life I've never felt like anyone thinks this way, and I feel embarrassingly understood by this video lol. Hearing it in words and by someone else that's obviously researched every little dark corner in such detail makes me feel validated and it's definitely highlighted what I need to work on. I'd say I'm the type 2 infj but scaringly going onto type 3, I only try this hard because all I want are some genuine friends :( my strategy is (definitely a 'works on paper not irl' thing) that I become 'close' with people, then actually open myself up later (or try to, I really struggle with this) to selected people. I think I only do this because this is the only way I know how to. Do you have any advice on how I can approach this differently? I definitely needed to hear everything in this video and I really appreciate it! Thank you for posting :D

[@Skimmerlit]

I'm hard on INFJs and ENTJs because I love them. I wrote an essay, but here's the summary instead: 1.Take risks. You'll get hurt, but take them anyway. 2. Don't obsess. 2a. Immersing yourself in a hobby or skill will keep you occupied and less fixated on individuals. You'll become a better, more rounded person, too. 3. Show others kindness but stand up for yourself--maintaining independence prevents resentment from setting in. You don't want to let yourself resent others. 4. Halfway is okay. You'll create impossible standards for people. If someone lives up to even half of those things and continues supporting you, they're better than most humans. 5. Uncomfortable is okay. Confrontations are how you weed out worthwhile friends/SOs from wastes. Have the argument or blowup and stick around. Sometimes, people will surprise you and want to work things out for the better. 6. Before you do anything, *thoroughly* consider things from the other person's perspective. Trust the golden rule. If your actions would hurt you, it would hurt them. 6a. If *they* continue ignoring the golden rule, trash them, but enduring that skin-burning negative-feeling sensation sometimes pays off. Most people stink, but vulnerability and suffering are the keys to becoming your best self and meeting the best people.

@@Skimmerlit Hi, this is great, you have the entire essay? Thank you for your research, I felt truly scared and vulnerable.

[@sashinova8189]

I agree. This was dark. I enjoyed it though lmao.

[@schlaubischlumpf211]

Is this also the reason you took down the 'frank james is an infj' video? Is it because you aren't so sure about that anymore, or because the direction he's currently taking is tending more towards creating a new persona, with which you can't really identify or find yourself in, like in his older videos (so basically from type 2 to type 3)? I thought it's probably the latter but I just kinda wanted to know what's going on and why u r taking it down.

[@Skimmerlit]

1. Making videos too positive on anyone is never a good idea. I like him, and his ideas are useful, but I don’t want to attract his acolytes or his opponents. 2. Getting comments from obsessive INFJs was getting creepy and annoying. 3. I don’t want my traffic coming too heavily from any one source. This isn’t an MBTI channel, so I want to be careful about attracting “only MBTI” viewers. Edit: Dude’s living his best life. With an audience that broad, focusing on appealing videos only makes sense. That isn’t a direction I ever want to take, but I’m happy the king’s succeeding.

[@sentienttrash2179]

@@Skimmerlit awww. The edit was wholesome

[@schlaubischlumpf211]

@@Skimmerlit Thank you. I was having a way too cynical approach on this. But you're right, the King's on the right track

[@shadowjsk]

Thank you, i think I understand myself better because of you video

[@Ace-cz4ot]

I think the sample of INFJ's that you encountered has narcissistic trait; specifically covert narcissism (a more specific term for those so called "Has a victim mentality but higher than thou individuals'') or even social narcissist (that person with a Messiah complex that turns into Satan if you refuse to be helped). I'm an INFJ myself and have experienced quite contrasting experiences of my own types; the normal or normal high functioning INFJ (INFJ with actual emotional empathy as other normal person does), the unhealthy (bad without Dark Tetrad traits) and the toxic variant's (narcissistic/has dark tetrad traits). I'd say if an unhealthy but non narcissistic INFJ were to exit a relationship without notice (this does not include cheating/any means of consciously hurting people *just pure doorslam) it could be because; 1. because the INFJ are so insecure that they don't think they deserve your love at your prime and them leaving you would not affect you greatly or they think that they are doing you a favor by exiting themself from your life (they feel like they have failed thus can't be "perfect" and provide you with happiness/experience and now they feel so insignificant and unworthy that it would not really bother people if they are not there). That is why I think an INFJ can get attached to a single person in a group of friends and help that person when the person is at a low point: cause the INFJ wants to be loved and cared back the way they do to that person (if they do actually have emotional empathy and not just cognitive empathy). But when that person got back up on their feet suddenly the INFJ didn't see the reason/fathom as to why the other person has any TI reason to have the INFJ around (unhealthy ones only feel like they can only be accepted/loved if they are needed for help cause they feel like a bad/inherently defect person (FI critic) and SE inferior (fear of performance issues). I have felt this way before and am trying to heal myself, and have seen several info about this while I also got similar insight as to what their deepest insecurity and fear is from observing other INFJs and it’s usually this. 2. The individual is toxic or the INFJ didn't see any possibility or hope for this person to change and therefore cannot have any productive conflict with said person (I'd argue that this is also wrong to some extent on the INFJ part cause you're not giving people any chance to explain themselves *NI being to overconfident in it's own assumption without enough SE fact checks, plus INFJ being conflict averse. I’d advise that you check out Dark Tetrad theory and narcissism if you haven't: it really helps you dichotomize people so you can act accordingly. Because we might fall into the bias that everyone is kind and has good in them, or we might get too cynical that we think everyone is just inherently evil. There’s antagonistic/exploitative people and there are normal people regardless of their types. Choose where and how you spend your energy wisely. Also for an unhealthy normal INFJ (or INFJ in general) reading this: please be responsible: being insecure does not justify your action of leaving people, it just hinders you from having human connections, especially after you helped them it just made them feel like shit. You are a horrible and useless human being not because you are inherently defective and a piece of trash; however YOU ARE a horrible human being if you leave people who loved you because you couldn't accept and love yourself. That’s your problem not theirs, and please reach out to the proper means for help. You need help. People who actually care and love you, do want to help you. They do not think you're a nuisance and TRUST THEM when they say so and please do not feel guilty. *Pardon if there's some grammatical error in my text, english isn't my first language

[@eliotsfm]

Dude you know when you have just absolutely nailed INFJs when you have created a comments section that is just a proverbial vending machine for INFJ damage control and copium😂

[@FluffyEmmy1116]

I mean, I can be all three depending on the context. But I tend to rate my INFJ-ness on a scale from Jesus to Hitler. [INFJ]

[@annap-g2184]

This is a video about sorts of SERIOUSLY dysfunctional people. INFJs are drained by groups of people and unless they have been born in a dysfunctional group, they are typically not looking to play such a role in a group. May be some “mistyped INFJs”.

[@coffeefrog]

Well, I think my friend is an INFJ, but he’s just a humble space cadet who wants everyone to happy and struggles to achieve that, instead becoming the group’s yes man. Not privileged, not controlling, not a super villain... hardly even high minded, really.

[@annajackard4121]

I have been an INFJ for over eight years and have used the Myers Briggs Personality information to raise people's awareness's about what is right with them in a therapeutic setting for many years. It has also been professionally helpful to know where the blind spot challenges will likely surface. A blind spot is something you don't see with clear vision; however, you will experience a reactive response when it is triggered. Your presentation felt like a well thought out mind personality type picture of the INFJ; however, distortion happen when the heart and soul components are not part of the whole picture. Interrogative heart and mind balance helps feed the love.

[@sentienttrash2179]

My question is how do you know all these things about infjs? And how are you so confident about it? I have never seen one. Are they too common with you?

[@Skimmerlit]

I studied them for a few years. They're unique among the types I've focused on in that they're cooperative. They aren't too rare, and their body language is some of the most pronounced. Male ENTJs are a close second in that respect. If you're looking for videos positive on INFJs, I have them. I try to cover types' positives and negatives, especially ones I don't see discussed. Typology isn't everything, but you'd be surprised how clockwork some types be.

[@sentienttrash2179]

@@Skimmerlit so was this a particularly negative segment for infjs, I presume? 😅 I got really worried for a sec about your what seemed like a complete/an honest opinion on infjs.. I liked the Satan type's description tho, ironically the closest to something I could relate to, minus the egotistical and gimmicky nature.

[@theultimatedisciple7974]

@@Skimmerlit What do you think order of types rarest to non-rarest is? Obviously we have all seen INFJ as #1 and ego allows us INFjs to believe that easily, but I’m very much open to the idea of that not being the truth. Its not even possible to get accurate data on it due to the variables of what type operates in what part of society (for example, the probability of finding an ESFP in a bar is way higher than finding an INTJ) and the validity of mass scale type testing. The best we can do right now is use our intuition. In our society at large I think it’s pretty clear to see that Ni and Ti in #1/2 are the rarest functions to come across, and Ni is definitely #1, I’ve had jobs where I’ve had to speak to a lot of different people at length, and my experience confirms this also but I am aware that this could be contextually true not universally true. Ti is NICE but it’s even rarer I find a fellow high Ni user that can literally read my mind or retranslate my words like I do to everyone else. I could see how INFJs would be the rarest given these 2 points, but we wont be able to know for sure in the concrete world, unless brain scans/tests can be 100% correlated with type.

[@violet18]

​@@SkimmerlitHow would you describe the body language of an INFJ?

[@RayVitoles-h2t]

I have actually met the 3rd kind of infj, and you hit the nail because he had the exterior of exactly the nerdy carefree type ( even though he was very diligent in his life and was grinding)and I am an intp so naturally i had no idea what he was doing ( Se blind). I as an intp was always the weird and even though i camouflage it very well, one day he came up to me and said " You are actually normal, not the weird guy you think you are" . To this day this gave me the creeps, because that point was a source of my insecurities.It turned out he was playing everyone, and even though he didn't do anything drastic bad ,he spread bad rumours of excoworkers to his new job( fun fact i was excluded from the bad rumours i don't know why)

[@RayVitoles-h2t]

To be fair,the other coworkers were kind of scammy, so i still don't think he was a bad person,but he was loved by them, so he was kind of a hypocrite secretly judging them and reading them

[@Nerdylady]

They seem too emotional and pointless. I’ll stick with my ENTJs.

[@Matchsticks96]

Entjs are pointless too, they strike me as fast food restaurants of America, efficient but no quality

[@MR.HANDS-]

imagine a satan infj harem protagonist... do u think infjs are good at dating sims?

[@Skimmerlit]

This man’s asking the real questions. The first 37 minutes of this are relevant, shocking, and wonderful. Pay attention to his eyes as he turns the tables: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH-Un31qataEnNE

[@caeliamoonshadow]

I'm the third type. I stay to myself for the most part because I am still learning how to keep myself in check. We have a lot to offer but its not what most people are looking for.

[@nimrarashid552]

i think limiting about learning isnt such a good idea. if u do limit yourself you wont understand y is the person the way they are.

[@magorzatafdz505]

Hi, I kinda feel pity for you because of people you met in your life. I wish you meet some good ones. Another thing that comes to my mind is that your exGF was messed up, narcissistic infj and now you hate all of those who has this mbti-theory label.

[@LittleMew133]

Same thought 😂

[@RayVitoles-h2t]

Infj vs intj duking it out.Entj is watching silently -smiling,Enfj and Esfj freak out,Intp goes like "hmm interesting". Entp and ENFP are instigating the fight.Infp is like " both of you are wrong", trying to start a 3 way fight,but was ignored .Isfj is like " does anyone want pizza?" hopping to stop the fight. Istp/ Estp get jealous and start boxing each other. Istj is like " if you need help with the fighting ask for me" .Estj is like " Guys you are both doing it wrong, this is the correct way to fight" , totally ignoring the reasons they are fighting. Isfp/ Esfp got bored of the fight early on , put some music and started dancing

[@tigranstepanyan4009]

trust I don't need no control I want someone to love me for who I am that's it, never manipulated people in a way that they feel attached to me so I have control.

[@cymbol73]

You are right. People get addicted to the INFJ giving meaning to their thoughts. They've never felt so heard, because it is only them saying exactly what you've been trying to say, but couldn't articulate. And they want to have the magic trick done again. I have to know - how did you see this? I find Type most fascinating when people can truly see inside the mind like this commentary does. You deserve an award for this. I once came across another INFJ. And it was then I realized how invisible we are. It's like noticing a spider that has been sitting there the entire time. I knew enough to find it frightening. That is the true gift of the INFJ. To be unseen.

[@thebooksofmbti4559]

Omg. U just put ALL my internal business out there.

[@punkbunnee9558]

Who hurt you, baby boo? 😢😅 the motivations for the behaviors are really off here, for most. Seems like you had some bad experiences or some fake INFJs. Which sucks... but be a little more objective please. The motivations are really important. These aren't the common thought patterns, at all.

[@littleshoeshopper]

I'm still not getting some of these terms. I so wish a real-world example could be paired with the term. although that is some of this in here, I would love to see a full almost scene or scenario from beginning to end to see these things playing out.

[@shavindikarunarathna8534]

I'm an infj. Yet I didn't reciprocated with the core values you had said. I was almost shocked when such traits were listed down. Yes, I do like discipline, but I hate manipulating people. One of my core values is accepting people as who they are and let them be. I'm a free spirit, and if I were to door slam, it's because I'm in a toxic relationship or being manipulated, or when someone is trying to control me by making me depend on them. All I value is peace, genuine love and freedom. But I wouldn't say all the infj's are like what I described. There are people who are like what you have mentioned, mostly they are T type or unhealthy immature infjs. They tend to be kind to attract people and expects rewards for their good deeds, well just according to my experience. But I'm lacking in that aspect as well. But I wouldn't say generally every infj is like that, just to make it clearer that there are healthy infj's too. And from personal life, all of my friends are equally or more talented than me and is such sweet loving people with independent free spirits, whom inspires me to do better everyday. I think, whether you are a healthy or an unhealthy infj, we still have that power to attract people and influence even if we don't want to. I guess the main difference would be healthy infj's have strong long lasting relationships while the unhealthy infj attracts people but can't keep them in a relationship. I guess when I was a child I was an unhealthy infj becauseof childhood trauma. And I used to attract people with first impressions, but as time goes by people see that it was not as genuine as they thought. Usually now, it's the other way around 😅 people assumes I must be cold and uncaring but with time learns I truly love loving people. And each year with any of my relationships we reciprocate feelings of mutual love and understanding. If you are an infj. Please heal yourself first, that will make all the difference. I guarantee you, that you will find unconditional love from soo many people. And your overall life will improve. Meditate, orient yourself towards a religion; that helped me a lot. And to our dear INTP's excuse their behaviour, and I hope you will get to meet and see more of healthier infj's.

[@kimngandong]

I'm an INTJ woman who was abused by my satan INFJ ex, what you said was totally true.

[@12000khawla]

15:37 if you don't mind me asking, how did you come up with this? did you figure it out by observing them?

[@Thilosophocl3s]

He observed one INFJ steal his prom date that he didn't even ask to prom in the first place. So after that he got all super obsessed, hiding out in bushes, under the car, peeking through the window, and boom, origin story

[@Matchsticks96]

Everything he said is true

[@Matchsticks96]

@@Thilosophocl3slol all the defensive comments are gross. And if you don’t think it’s accurate it cuz you’re not infj or you don’t understand typology at all. Don’t waste your breath commenting

[@Thilosophocl3s]

I wouldn't waste a single breath on this thread, nor would I let anything here have any effect on me other than the possibility for humor. From what I could find, it appears that I had off-handedly quipped a smart-ass comment last year in which I wasn't really commenting on type, so much as using conjecture to construct the makings of someone who blames the world for their inability to be a well adjusted human, and shows little, if any, ability to take accountability for his own actions or inactions. This all seems as if the INFJ was holding someone else accountable for breach of a covert social contract that was actually only known to the INFJ. This angry person was likely dealt a shitty hand of cards and regardless of type, doesn't trust anyone but himself [Ti child] to help him understand the way the world actually works. [Ni] hero at the wheel of someone who's pissed off is not a good combination. So this NiTi loop completely disallows or blinds him to outside opinions, or perspectives [Te trickster.] And, if he's in a cognitive loop then he's locked out Fe parent and is intellectualizing his emotional pain [Ti child] rather than allowing emotion to work through him. That's like eating a garden salad with a teaspoon. He actually never asked the girl to go... 1. In his [Ni hero] inner world prom was already a done deal. Now he just needed everything to go the way it did in his head. The problem with that is Se inferior has a hard time reconciling fantasy from reality, so to compensate and save processing power and since the date was already a success, he had expectations for success. Of course Te trickster, again, blinded him to what she or anyone else thought about him. There's a reason it's a called a blindspot. If something I need to consider is not right in front of my face, I'll completely forget about it's existence until it randomly comes around to hit me on the back of my head. Te trickster means we need a trusted NeTe user in our life to help us gain perspective and to entertain us with their ridiculous sense of rationale [Te] that they mistake for [Ti logic] But what do I know, I'm just a smart-ass entertaining himself with his own observations, perspectives, and opinions. 😂

[@celiacresswell6909]

@@Thilosophocl3sdon’t listen to the critics: you funny😂

[@SS-bu8ez]

Can you make one about Estps and Entps? Especially how not to get conned by their Fe child? How to know when they are not being honest or sincere?

[@Skimmerlit]

I haven't studied either type enough to say anything useful about them. I've noticed some clash with ENTJs. If I ever absorb enough info or pick up on some trends, I'll make something.

[@SS-bu8ez]

@@Skimmerlit will be a video worth watching because these types are slippery

[@AmeliaVorshiva-sx2fx]

Lmfaoooo this is SOOO opinionated. This dude is... Interesting😅 Holy shit dude who hurt you?? 🥺😭 I'm an inch and very very sad for you. I hope you meet someone who isn't like this, all weird and shit. Saddens me that someone effected you to this particular measure.. you've clearly lost a lot of heart to whoever it was. Keep pushing on and I really wish better, the best for you! 3: Take care

[@Clover501]

Dude, I had an encounter with an INFJ like how this video described and now I'm terrified. I think I'm just lucky that I'm basically useless to her because I stay at home all day and never go out, and honesty, yeah, their kinda like spiders trying too fool you into getting in their web... I guess I'm lucky that I'm not in it. Let me get into detail about how head over heels I was about her... wait... no.. I didn't like her, I liked the idea of her, and I constantly tried to pull away her mask and I think it worked for me (though I think I accidentally made her a better manipulator by accident, but I don't see her anymore, so who cares?). I hope she changed, but destiny thinks overwise, not that I've seen her...I hate the deception. It could burn and rot for all I care. You forgot to mention how they are master gaslighters as well. I've never seen a better gaslighter than an INFJ except for ESTPs.

[@basedvillager]

I’d like these videos to have some example stories. Would complement the content greatly

[@lloydtxw]

All of this nefarious, calculating behavior to what end? It sounds like the antagonistic busywork of someone with APD. Conniving for the sake of it. Why bother? No one is that important. It also sounds like someone is dismissive of their own feelings and suspicious of the feelings of others and has created an imposing boogeyman who must have logical motivation and a strategy for everything they do. They’ve made the mistake of thinking everything has a reason or desired outcome and that both of them are amoral and contrived.

[@mokari9268]

Tell that to the INTP who put all this together. It’s a cute and funny angle, made for a good villainous plot I suppose if your writing a novel.

[@Matchsticks96]

It’s cuz they’re paranoid as hell

[@Matchsticks96]

@@mokari9268that’s cuz you don’t “know” infjs

[@mokari9268]

@@Matchsticks96 seemed too bias and over generalized - also it makes it seem like that cognitive function stack is inherently wrong, so like if you have Ni as your dominant perceiving function and God forbid Fe following after it then you’re just evil… then what about ESFJs and ENFJs what does that make them- and what exactly makes an INFJ evil is it the Ni and Fe pairing or is it because they are a reflection of whatever is going on in the subconscious mind of society? I wish the know-it-all Skimmerit could’ve explained further or at least clarified but I guess INFJs are just evil at best and yet he said he still loves/likes them… so does that mean he loves all of what he just described. Only Skimmerit knows.

[@mokari9268]

@@Matchsticks96 just say you don’t know, and stop pretending like Skimmerit has authority over anything other than himself… although I’m sure he wishes he had some over a pretty ENTJ lady too.

[@johnbell7579]

I do what the "satan" type does but for entirely different reasons... My motivations are completely innocent.

[@swancoven759]

someone got hurt by an infj..

[@Matchsticks96]

No you’re just used to fairytale stories of infjs, this here is somebody telling the truth

[@chiefbeef5590]

11:57 a hidden knife? Dont call us out like that lol 😂

[@saahthereforever]

Bro satan?? Really?

[@elenab8296]

Thank you for your videos.

[@charlesmonroy2183]

Lol I think you really need to get to know a real infj-A we aren't that dark or play games that way unless you did something bad and before you go you might get a parting gift but I dont agree with u at all try again

[@infj-tguy6275]

1:30 yes... dance moneys dance, entertain me..

[@TreasureSeasons]

wow - how ironic - we're judgmental from a 39-minute thinking stream - i like your voice -

[@mosephfistergoodntave]

Such a beautiful assortment of verbage. Dont quit life its bad for your health. Trying to quit is also a great reason for high cortisol levels. Quit trying to quit. Just save your health and live! Thank you for not quiting

[@remediosgarcia2519]

hello skimmerlit! how interesting!! How INFJ gets your attention !?? for you to know this matter meaning you study well about them,putting some effort about this topic was not just a content it really mean to you.