SOS Bros React - Yuu Yuu Hakusho Episode 64 - Toguro Gets What He Wants

[@SemblanceofSanity]

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[@razkable]

Botan saying we can start hoping always gets to me...everyone feels like we have no chance since the match began so she finally can relax for a moment

[@razkable]

Hiei smiles cause he saw yusuke get up and botan was crying cause she thought he died

[@fettel1988]

@@razkable I'm so happy the fans loved Hiei enough to make Tog keep him around. Because he gets the second highest growth of any character in the whole show

[@razkable]

If toguro had won he would of been content being right cause him winning would mean he was right to choose his path...but he wanted to be wrong and knew yusuke with genkai power could probably might do it...he may have wanted to see test out if he could live and that means he's not just suicidal and a psychic predicting his fate or content being wrong he wanted to test it out see if the result would give him peace...which it did...his death meant he was wrong and he was happy knowing that for a moment before dying

[@razkable]

@@fettel1988 his backstory episode is one of the best character driven episodes of a kids anime ever made cause it doesn't have cliche outright expressed feelings or desires fulfilled like it would for yusuke aka the mc so kids can grasp onto what he feels...hiei doesn't get revenge he doesn't let us know how he really feels but we can assume like when he leaves saying his people were already dead he doesn't want to show he is the bigger man and he was surprised and also hurting inside choosing to live through yukina not his revenge..it's so bitter sweet sad kinda uplifting inspiring but dark unsatisfying hard to tell read as well...hiei's voice being so cold in the dub is amazing in that episode cause it just doesn't allow us to get a true answer just like hiei didn't

[@ryanbagley3293]

Yusuke’s “I respected you” speech is so fucking powerful and heart breaking, god I love this ark

[@razkable]

When you rewatch the show outside of him slapping yukina killing genkai and maybe killing helen everything toguro did was respectful good and nice kinda...yusuke had no reason to hate him

[@fettel1988]

I mean who even is Yusuke's dad?

[@transientanus]

@@fettel1988 A yakuza member. You learn about him in the manga.

[@feliperisseto9113]

A demon king.​@@fettel1988

[@truepotential206]

Yusuke 8:10 "I dont care if I dont fire another shot or lose my life, I just want to make this shot with everything I have" . The birth of contract with conditions gentlemen. Improved upon this scene we get Gon's final transformation

[@justinrivera1618]

You could definitely see the groundwork for nen when they talk about feeling his emotions

[@DXDragon38]

One of the most iconic Anime villains of the 90's. What a fantastic arc!

[@egeorgiades93]

One of the Most Iconic Villains. It’s amazing how some of the most Iconic Villains out there were made by Togashi.

[@GauravKumar-vu9td]

As great and epic Toguro really is, sensui is even a greater villain atleast for me.

[@fettel1988]

@@GauravKumar-vu9td Sensui is like the best form I've seen of "I've seen the dark side of myself... and I cannot abide"

[@memelord7643]

I liked this arc but from what ive seen people didnt like this arc cause of the paseing

[@razkable]

Toguro is a villian with nuisance but he was never redeemed fully or ran from his fate what he wanted inside..aka death...he's so badass because he wanted it to end that way...shaping yusuke was just part of his redemption..it wasn't all he wanted

[@nikolab.4065]

Meanwhile, All Might's in the audience taking notes "Huh, they're going a 100% and then even further beyond. I think I'll call it *Plus Ultra"*

[@brightidiot6020]

I love how when Toguro says he killed genkai but there was one left It sounds like he was talking about Yusuke but he was talking about himself

[@DXDragon38]

Quite possibly the Greatest Tournament Arc in Anime

[@detectivemarkseven]

Its one of the original ones as well.

[@razkable]

Best ending fight for sure...toguro vs yusuke from eps 62-64 is storytelling 101

[@Mike.325]

Facts

[@alexanderhayward8505]

Any commentary on some animes that might rival this one's Tourney arc?

[@detectivemarkseven]

@@alexanderhayward8505 sports anime have a lot of good tourney arcs (slam dunk for example)

[@MegaRay220]

Always liked that Botan gets the last reaction shot for Yusuke getting up. Keiko’s out of commission so she’s the best option

[@razkable]

She been through it with him since the start and she took genkai to spirit world

[@razkable]

Kuwa too...also the reactors both talk over botan but not rinku smdh...really caleb

[@KaizerHiwatari]

"I've learned the value of what you threw away." Damn.

[@razkable]

My issue with toguro like kakashi from naruto is we don't know their true past until way later so how are we suppose to judge them smdh...people act like that's amazing development but it's just keeping info from us until later on...I don't know toguro until 66

[@jp3813]

@@razkable Keeping info from the audience is what mystery writers do. You're supposed to perceive Toguro as a heartless villain in order to stack the odds against the heroes. These reactors obviously found him very compelling despite not reaching episode 66 yet.

[@razkable]

@@jp3813 well that's cause they already watched the show subbed before the reaction and read the manga but still...you can tell they make it obvious the reactions are fake with the edits...caleb had the shirt before this reaction series began and tells jacob what to say talking points wise I feel he guides him ...they also pause and go back to react for the videos...they watch a scene or line then go back and react like its the first time they heard it..their not slick...

[@jp3813]

@@razkable .....Yeah.....Uh-huh.....Sure, buddy.

[@GalekC]

Not quite included in the dub, but Toguro essentially went to 120% power at the end. Yusuke pushed him literally beyond his limit

[@affable8696]

It's one of the rare occurences where the dub kinda undermined what the original tried to convey. Calling it 85% (no matter the justifications people bring up like it being a bluff) instead of 120% (or simply beyond 100%) cheapens the transformation, imo.

[@jessebrown1996]

@@affable8696 Well you can't actually go 120% that's a illogical, and from an actual Japanese speakers point of view it's more a long the lines of he was using 100% of 100% and not 120%.

[@namesdontmattergaming2756]

@@jessebrown1996 Yes you can, it’s called an adrenaline rush or artificial means….Toguro was pushing beyond his limits in that final stand

[@devonm042690]

@@jessebrown1996 100% of what you can do normally is about 80% of your absolute maximum due to limiters enforced through body chemistry, because absolute 100% is not sustainable. The muscles would tear themselves apart and the bones would break under the strain of physical feats carried out without the limiters in place. It's not just an anime trope.

[@affable8696]

@@jessebrown1996 I think the problem lies in you taking this from a logical/literal standpoint. "Going past one's limits" is one of the main principles of shonen battle manga, especially when the characters have special energy and transformations. Toguro used 100% against Yusuke, and when he finally met his match, he managed to go a little bit past that. We both know that is impossible in real life, but majority of shonen is literally built on defying this, most often via a new transformation (super saiyan forms being the most prominent example). We could say that by attaining this "new" form, it became Toguro's new 100%, but I don't feel like that's the point you were trying to make. Plus I feel like it's semantics anyway, as it would still be 120% (or 100% of 100%) of his old form. And this is not even considering the whole spirit/demon energy stacked on top of the life energy or the energy lent to you by other characters.

[@sharksfan232]

You know, the "What I said was 100 was actually 85" was a really weird mistranslation. That final form of Toguro was described as "100% OF 100%" in the manga, and I like that description more than just saying "I was just playing you earlier, this is 100." That is just my taste.

[@andrewevers2420]

It's basically the difference between playing at your best, and playing so hard you hurt yourself.

[@ProjectDT88]

Yeah, that is so much better. I always saw it as 120% like giving your all to fight at your all.

[@cardnals100]

I prefer the 85% version as it implies that like yusuke toguro hadn't reached his limit yet either.

[@fifthtouch]

In the manga translation in my country, Toguro straight up said he used 120%. Thats why he dead, he gone beyond his limit

[@chicagonative1507]

Should have been atleast 90%

[@silversauceran]

Yusukes arc from the beginning to this point so far is insane. He goes believably from caring only about himself to caring about everyone around him and refusing to them let go.

[@Ardith50]

I actually prefer the recap version of Kuwabara’s death not only for the reactions of Shizuru and Yukina, but also him calling Yusuke by his name for the first time.

[@Hannah4765]

Sadly it wasn't the first time - Kuwabara called him Yusuke at the end of episode 4 when Yusuke's body was in the wheelchair after Keiko saved him from the fire. But I really wish this had been the first time. Have it be this and also episode 89 and that's it.

[@egeorgiades93]

@@Hannah4765 Their hearts are gonna break on 89.

[@Hannah4765]

@@egeorgiades93 My heart breaks every time I watch it

[@egeorgiades93]

@@Hannah4765 Same here. The Darkest Moment of the Series.

[@razkable]

I assume the first version was a little after he was dead so shizuru didn't react...

[@justinalicea1590]

In the manga, it's 100% of 100%, which he later equates to 120%. Like how people can push themselves to 100% of their strength, but then push beyond it on an adrenaline rush to do things like pick up cars or pianos.

[@TheKyrix82]

And the dubbers rightly decided that was stupid, and made it what it actually was.

[@devonm042690]

@@TheKyrix82 The problem with that line of thinking is that absolute 100% is not sustainable. The muscles would tear themselves apart and the bones would break under the strain of performing feats allowed by absolute 100%, if it was more than just a burst of strength in emergencies. It's why normally there are limiters enforced through body chemistry, making the normal maximum around 80% of the absolute maximum. Beyond that, a big problem with calling 100% Toguro 'more like 85' is that it makes 80% Toguro more like 65%. Likewise, it backscales every other announced tier Toguro has stated to be using, so Toguro initially fought Yusuke and Kazuma with around 15% instead of 20%, and when showing off to scare Yusuke into participating he used around 50% instead of 60%, and what he told that 'Spirit Warrior' was an honoring of his strength by using 45%, was actually around 30%. No, Toguro started his fight with Yusuke at 80%, then bumped up to 100%, and then when told by Yusuke to give it everything, he assumed a 'limit breaker' form. The fact that pushing himself in that form quickly killed him is proof enough of that. It's like the Gate of Death from Naruto in terms of aftereffect, but more like the Gate of Opening in terms of benefit. Or to go with something closer to the airing time, it'd be like if against Vegeta, Goku using Kaiokenx3 was his equal. He'd be pushing his body too far, and then have to try to grapple with a then-equal opponent on top of that.

[@TheKyrix82]

@@devonm042690 Except again, it falls apart, because unlike those other examples, Toguro wasn't shown to be putting any real effort into anything. The Japanese is akin to the Goku/Frieza fight being: Oh, you're at 75%, well, I'm only at 50%. Here, let me go to 100%. Oh no, you're a Super Saiyan, time to go to 120%! In reality, Goku was at 50%, Frieza was at 1%, went to 50% to show Goku how fucked he was, then went to 100% when pushed...at which point he overtaxed himself, because he had never had to go 100% before. Toguro is literally in that same boat. Which is why the dub is much better. Otherwise we get "One For All, ONE MILLION PERCENT!" all over again.

[@MajorLawliet]

@@TheKyrix82 it is stupid to think it is stupid. This is still an anime, a piece of literature, not reality. Someone literally pushing beyond their limits carries a lot of literary meaning when used well. I don't see you calling explosions of blue energy stupid, why the double standards? Why is spirit energy okay but not pushing so hard you literally wield more power than your body can normally produce?

[@TheKyrix82]

@@MajorLawliet Because, by definition, the most power you can physically put out IS 100%. That is definitionally a fact. To go to DBZ style powerlevels, if Toguro stated his 100% was, say, 50,000 and later jumped to 60,000, he's not at 120% now, he's at 100%, he just lied about what his 100% was. Now in DBZ, the Kaio Ken actively does add power, but that is a technique, and it does more damage than your opponent is likely to. Toguro didn't use a special power technique, he just used the rest of his power. At best, you could argue it's a Frieza situation, where it's a different form with a different powerlevel, but again, it's still 100%.

[@aa-qx1cg]

I love how the way Toguro dissipates the final spirit wave is by hugging it. Like he's trying to grasp onto Genkai's essence, that which could not be permanent.

[@fluentinoppai6271]

In the manga its hinted toguro goes beyond 100% which is one of the reasons he loses, he pushed his body beyond its limit + took yusuke's most powerful blast.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

The thing with that is we could clearly see that by using up everything to destroy yusukes attack he clearly pushed his power beyond his limits. He didn't need to say his body was beyond his limits for the audience to get that

[@kazuhirokawamoto7213]

Boy chapter black is going to blow your socks off guys

[@sarafontanini7051]

I don't think anyone's ready for chapter black

[@razkable]

It's paced well better than this arc was....episodes 76 and 89 and 93 are insane

[@kazuhirokawamoto7213]

@@razkable yup my fave moment is when they play a certain gave that I'm sure the SOS bros are going to enjoy

[@ktdottfc]

Yusuke vs toguro is still be my favorite fight in all of anime/manga. The amazing dynamic between these two and how much toguro feels like an extension of what yusuke could’ve been. The tension, climax, of this fight is just so damn good. With the goat energy of yuyu hakusho, theres still another amazing villain coming in their way in the next arc.

[@d1only879]

They see Toguro as a complicated character. Well, you can say that he's like an anthill.

[@magustobias8827]

I saw what you did there.

[@eddieperez8516]

Yusuke: Full power Paper Gon: Full power Rock Kuwabara: Full power Scissors

[@junioze]

i love the change genkai die = resurrection can't be a thing kuwabara die = resurrection must happen 😂😂😂

[@miguelosvaldofloresdomingu8911]

This is probably my favorite episode of the series, along with the 89. I LOVED the whole dialogue between Yusuke and Toguro, that's pure greatness. That silence after Toguro crushed Yusuke's spirit gun is one of those moments when an anime took my breath away. I can't wait for the reaction of episode 66, although the fights are over, there's still some great stuff this arc has to offer to us, and in my opinion this arc would not be the same if it ended on this episode just like that without giving us a proper conclusion to some loose ends.

[@DAMUSHIRA369]

Now it's time for Shinobu fucking Sensui!!!

[@CoffeeBrainzz]

Toguro just wanted the ULTIMATE squat/curl test!!!! Misunderstood man 😂💪

[@sarafontanini7051]

Caleb: He may hedged his bets, like we think sakyo has meanwhile, sakyo, seeing toguro die: that's not good certainly doesn't sound like a dude who hedged his bets

[@razkable]

First time he seemed worried...as toguro said its a big risk...

[@heavennunya809]

So, you thinking their reaction to the next episode is going to be similar to Yuusuke's reaction? Cause that's what I imagine.

[@gabthegreat01]

Fun fact, the Japanese version called Toguro’s final form 100% of 100%. I dunno why the dub changed it. Probably lip sync issues...

[@arnoldoaad]

It was translated to 100% of the 100% on Spanish too, honestly a very iconic line, first time seeing the english dub and him saying 85% really threw me off

[@gabthegreat01]

@@arnoldoaad kinda cheapens the moment doesn’t it?

[@aa-qx1cg]

@@gabthegreat01 not really.

[@Windmill360]

Toguro: This is the epilogue of my final form - my epiform, if you will.

[@Velshin1986]

Part of the reason why Toguro was so sad that Genkai rejected the immortality that been given to Toguro because they were pretty much equal in the past but seeing her growing up and got weaker made him mad and sad because he thought she was the only one who could take him down but not anymore after she got old.

[@sarafontanini7051]

it was probably also a reminder of his own foolishness, what he had given up in his grief and arrogance for strength. He lost a life he could have lived, a woman he could have loved and grown old with, and all he has left now is power. Toguro is such a deep, fascinatiing villain.

[@egeorgiades93]

Who’s ready to cry in 2 weeks?

[@Ffeoli1039]

Me

[@truepotential206]

"I killed Genkai but one remained..... The part that lived in me"

[@fettel1988]

Oh boys. OH boys. You don't yet know Toguro. You know "Toguro"

[@thebookreader287]

Omg yu yu hakusho is my childhood and you're reacting to it!

[@strygwyr5735]

There's a good chance that you guys gonna thoroughly enjoy the next arc. This where everything comes together. Its like all the previous arcs are meant to set the coming arc.. Definitely a york new level arc is coming..

[@gonzo6489]

"No dramatic flashback" he says lol

[@sarafontanini7051]

yeha spoke too soon, though at least the flashback is well placed and makes sense, and isn't just a lazy retcon.

[@gonzo6489]

@@sarafontanini7051 Best flashback in anime imo

[@gonzo6489]

@@sarafontanini7051 Its so good. Maybe my favorite flashback scene ever. Its executed perfectly and makes rewatches even stronger than the first run through. And the Toguro and Genkai bridge scene pulls my heart strings so hard

[@kurtsherer8211]

*sips coffee* I think I'll take a stroll through Mushiori City..see the sights.

[@jonathanrolle5118]

Awesome conclusion to this epic fight! One of the most satisfying deaths to an anime villain 👍🔥

[@bradleybarnett1469]

Hey guys! If you see this, that wasn't just any Spirit Gun, it's actually Yusuke's new Ultimate Technique, Spirit Gun Mega (which the fans called it, and then I believe the Author liked it so he slapped a "This is Canon!" Sticker on it

[@zendevil13]

Taguro looks done being immortal 🥲

[@gotenurameshi8958]

This episode is called in America Toguro's desire

[@shinraset]

If I could financially afford it at the moment I would pay the money so that I can see you next week's episode right now because I want to see their reaction to everything that's going to go on in that episode!!

[@simondeep]

I came across you guys watching Jojo and was quickly impressed with the longer post discussions-at first like “wait this video is 30-45 mins long how why?” And then only one episode a week, despite the material already out there. It was like watching ole tv again. And the critique is nice; makes sense, one of you got to book writing And then you began watching Yuyu hakusho! Its been a fun year. And hearing you guys talk about the author and hunter hunter-Not having gotten to hunter hunter myself, its very interesting hearing about the comparisons. I need to add that to my reading list if the author just gets better on out

[@MissCaraMint]

Toguro 180IQed this.

[@frijolitoazul4343]

finally, one of the best episodes

[@TheMeTreeHouse]

Yes....it's over.....completely....forever

[@tetsuoshima9682]

Ahhhh great episode and a great reaction guys !

[@niwaallen1]

CHAPTER BLACK 😭 🖤 I'll just keep saying it till we get there

[@detectivemarkseven]

The seaman episode is the one im looking forward to.

[@egeorgiades93]

@@detectivemarkseven I can’t wait us all to cry on Ep 89.

[@susah135]

Since you watched the English dub, I'd like to inform you that in the original dub, when he powered up for the final time, instead of saying the last one was more like 85%, here Toguro revealed that he too can go beyond his own limits; reaching 100% of his 100% form. So basically he goes beyond his normal limits by overexerting his 100% form.

[@fettel1988]

Right some 120% nonsense. This is the one time I like the dub's rework of numbers more. Well, that and how much money Sakyo bets

[@Nightshroud20]

As far as I remember ... in the japanese sub ... that last transformation was over 100% ... wicth was what killed him ... not Yusuke ... and it fit better with the story / personality ... but this works to I guess ...

[@karlluigi1987]

The End of the best arc of Yu Yu Hakusho

[@isaiascanete6651]

I think is debatable if the next one is better, but this is the most consistently great arc of YYH

[@giornogiostar3214]

Tf are you talking about Chapter Black arc is just beginning.

[@fettel1988]

I was distracted the first time. But great Kars reference

[@DaMarleyMan]

Actually in the original Japanese version tugoro was at 100 percent already and I think he went to 120 percent. Everytime I watch Yu Yu Hakusho over n over again, that part always gets to me because that def was not 85 percent he was using fighting Yusuke 😭

[@karlluigi1987]

Sasabihin ko ulet.. ISANG DAANG PORSYENTONG LAKAS!!! ISANG DAAN AT DALAWANGPUNG PORSYENTONG LAKAS!!!

[@nicodalusong149]

Even the tagalog version gets it correct. The english dub did it wrong.

[@hanschristianben505]

@@nicodalusong149- the Tagalog dub (with the exception of the names - which actually, and eventually became a part of the series’ actual history) got the translation almost exactly right as per the manga & original Japanese dub… also, there’s an entirely separate English dub that also got the translation faithful to the original… it was done by Animax Asia during the early 2000s… and to be honest, I find the Animax English dub superior to US funimation/toonami one, as not only it got the translations correct, but it also captured the raw emotions exactly as like the original…

[@ericbejcek4986]

Bring some tissues for the next episode 🤧.

[@BasedGalaxy]

I got Kenshiro vibes with the sad power up

[@HieiJaganshi2025]

I made an AMV of this while right in 3 halves last month

[@BasedGalaxy]

I think in the manga it was 100% of 100% Or 120% i think

[@mikamazo1476]

I hope you watch Kotaro lives alone, because it is a very good show and I think you guys will like it

[@MAT-wn5fr]

Interesting that there are some similarities with Dragon Ball which I don't know if people would like to admit.

[@christophermedina4849]

Next episode is where something happened that made me go “ are you f’n serious?!?!? “ Nothing against ____ It’s just… I thought certain things would stick, you know?

[@isaiascanete6651]

I get why people say that...but at the same time, there was any other use for the wish?

[@christophermedina4849]

@@isaiascanete6651 oh you think I’m talking about the *wish* ? Nah it’s not that.

[@egeorgiades93]

2 weeks. It’s Ep 66 where it happens.

[@zendevil13]

taguro wanted to die

[@szaendreszekeo]

dragon ball is just copy the real is yuyu hakusho