Installing An Indra Charger With No Driveway!!

[@martinbrookes1372]

I can imagine the " Have you had an accident " lawyers , licking their lips , as people start falling over these trip hazards .

[@sotaelectrical]

Yeah probably!

[@ascelot]

Like there not enough trip hazards with bably layed slads cracking and sticking up lol

[@gasgas2689]

My friend Emma who is totally blind would have great difficulty negotiating a street trying to do the hundred yards hurdles over these things. Yes the council had better have the best lawyers in the country.

[@tellitasyouseeit7555]

@@gasgas2689 I'm sure she has came over uneven slabs that stick up more than that. At 20mm high, this cable tidy is very slim. Well done to the manufacturer

[@markrainford1219]

@@ascelot You had a few?

[@sparky6612]

Time to get my roller skates on, where there’s blame, there’s a claim. 👍

[@panman1964]

The biggest Issue I have with this isn't anything to do with trailing cables etc etc (or anything you did with the install) but rather something far more fundamental especially when it comes to EV charging generally. In the UK you do not have the right to park on the road outside your house (with a few exceptions such as designated disabled bays). Even in those areas with permit parking the permit doesn't always say you can park in a specific spot rather it covers an area where you can park.

[@doriangray6985]

Too right bro

[@waqasahmed939]

My parents have a terraced house with a disabled bay outside The council refuses to grant planning permission for a gully outside. That's quite annoying as I could get a cheap EV with less range when going to visit them

[@panman1964]

@@waqasahmed939 but that's a parking bay for their car not your car surely ??

[@waqasahmed939]

@@panman1964 Nope. It's a typical 1930s terraced house.

[@doriangray6985]

@waqasahmed939 I saw a KZbin video of an electrical engineer installing a EV charger and legally running a cable along the pavement via an approved "ramp". Sorry the correct word escapes me.

[@DavidRichards-z2k]

I spent 22yrs as a telecoms engineer & hated installations on 99% in & on the property we surface laid out cables/wiring, what you did on this task was bloody brilliant 👍 I bet you come across many a fit that appears to have been done by Jonny aged 3!!! I bet a few of those pavement cable covers will be stolen over time

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you very much!! Yeah I do come across many installations like that!! Yeah maybe so, I dont understand the mentality of some people to be honest regarding theft, absolutely no need for it. Thank you for commenting and watching!! Really appreciate it!! 👍👍

[@RPLAsmodeus]

I was looking at those holes 20:10 and thought maybe you could screw a hook to the wall and padlock it.

[@Mr4fksake]

I'm sure the cables will be gone first in no time once people of a certain ilk know they are there !!

[@DavidRichards-z2k]

Not sure how prevalent it is now but probably about 10sh years ago, I’m guessing a bit there, but we went through a major issue with thieves robbing & not just from yards etc, we had during daytime hours several miles of aerial cable being stripped off poles, they would turn up with a hoist & supporting vehs & just drive down the route taking the cable down, another major problem that usually happened at night, they’d open an underground chamber , tie chains around the cables, tie them to a vehicle & just drive away tripping the cables straight out of the ducts!!

[@SylvanApe]

Yup, and when the cover/ramp is stolen and someone trips over the cable, the house owner is liable. Really don't think this is the long term solution to this problem.

[@mradford10]

This is my first view of your channel and immediately you look like a very good sparky. Thoughtful, efficient, tidy, knowledgeable and safe. Your client should be pleased with that job. Brilliant. Great video.

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you so much 👍👍

[@robintodd3901]

It’s a joke isn’t it. Go EV without any sensible infrastructure in place. Cables along pavements etc is just opening up the world of claims.

[@sotaelectrical]

Yes I agree completely 👍👍

[@Fercough]

Nonsense, absolute twaddle. This is old dinosaur thinking. Dear me. Instead of taking the power to the battery, the latest small EVs take the battery to the power. These exist. Battery on wheels, remove from car and wheel inside for charging. That's a now thing. Problem solved.

[@boogboog8097]

Germany just gave permission for power companies to turn off or limit power supplies to people with ev chargers or heat pumps...grid can't cope and the green nonsense policies prevent the needed nuclear generation its complete denial of reality

[@olivertaylor4779]

@@Fercough that's a great idea if you have somewhere to wheel the battery to, an EV battery is most of the floor area and usually weigh over half a ton, and the connectors would have to be idiot proof, the system would cost loads and people would complain about it all. Even small batteries are heavy, drag it up a few steps, no thanks.

[@vonlouie77]

Looks like there’s going to health market for second hand cables coming soon

[@Uk-Writer]

First claim I have heard of was a £3900 one for tripping over a cable across the path

[@pikricky]

The push tool and small gel connectors you used on the ct clamp connections are used all the time by the Openreach (BT) engineers,another great video

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you! 👍

[@8skellerns]

They also use the proper crimp tool, not a pair of normal pliers lol! Crimp Plier 8a

[@sotaelectrical]

@@8skellerns well I’m not an open reach engineer, normal pliers worked fine

[@zagabog]

As someone with no driveway, this video has given me some hope that I might be able to charge an electric car when we replace our current vehicle, thanks for covering this so well.

[@truebrit1989]

I'd recommend checking local council guidelines and your home insurance first. Guidance where I live right now, from Huntingdonshire council, "We do not recommend trailing cables across the pavement, because even with a mat protector they can be a trip hazard. You would be liable for any criminal or civil proceedings if your cable caused an accident." Where as Hertfordshire say you "You cannot run private charging cables across public roads, pavements and paths" (even with cables covers) one of the reasons they give are them creating a obstruction but also claim "They would also breach electrical safety standards and are unlikely to be covered by public liability insurance." So different councils say different things.

[@rhysstewart2703]

id recomend not getting an full ev the now as you dont know if the council will allow you to do this get a hybrid still saving the planet but not reserviced by range or council redtape

[@Lewis_Standing]

Look up solutions like kerbo charge and others like green mole. Write to your councillors about trialling it or approving it, it's always useful to point out when they declared a climate emergency and how little progress they've done on this issue since.

[@Simonsimon-fy3hq]

Have to agree. Recent negative press on EV's seems to be increasing. Add in possible fire hazard, piss poor value retention, and as we see here no built infrastructure to support the roll out. Not so good at the moment.@@rhysstewart2703

[@rhysstewart2703]

@Lewis_Standing or you know make things like hydrogen and synthetic fuels really available for hybrid and full ice car conversion

[@ianrobinson9243]

I’m unlikely to ever need to know this information from a self installation perspective but I do like to know a little about a lot so it assists me understanding things should I ever need it done by someone else. Very educational video and what you think is easy certainly is not.

[@sotaelectrical]

Hi Ian, I appreciate your comments and thank you so much for taking the time to watch 👍👍

[@JBE]

Quality video and great install 👌🏻. The problem is the obvious thing every electrician worth their salt has been banging on about for almost 10 years now, the infrastructure is not in place for mass ev. I'm having a charge point installed at my house in two weeks, but I wouldn't even consider it if I lived in a terraced property with no driveway. Again though great video 👍🏻

[@sotaelectrical]

Hi mate, thanks very much!! Yeah I know, it’s going to be an interesting journey over the next few years! Thanks for watching also mate, really appreciate it 👍👍 have a great Christmas

[@peteygti1]

the infrastructure is there and more is coming, sainsburys and asda launching their own networks of charging will bring the price of that down

[@andrewhaines3259]

​@peteygti1 Initially it may do, but like everything else, they are not doing this to help us, the consumer. They want a slice of the action and also, like food prices, they will have control over the costs of the service they provide and when prices increase or, rarely, decrease. It's the same with fuel prices. Currently, supermarkets are more expensive than the independent garages, ( I'm not talking about the major named petrol stations here). The infrastructure isn't there and as others have said, there are many concerns about this.

[@peteygti1]

​@@andrewhaines3259 factually wrong, infrastructure is there, with sainsburys and asda launching their own networks soon will be better.

[@asholiver8044]

Amazing video as usual. As an commercial apprentice you're brilliant at explaining things that i wont never come across while I'm learning and find it very helpful👍

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you!! Well you never know when it will come in handy! I done my apprenticeship in commercial/industrial and then I went into H/V, now I’m doing domestic so you never know what you might end up soon in the future 👍👍

[@garyputtock4159]

Running a live electrical cable across a public footpath is opening yourself to a whole world of trouble. Problem without a home charger an EV costs a fortune at commercial charging points and I suppose this owner had enough of the costs. As we say customer is always right! 😂 Great video.

[@Harbourmaster68]

The problem with this sort of solution is that it gives some people the feeling of entitlement to the public road outside their houses.

[@sotaelectrical]

Yes, its difficult I agree.

[@sargfowler9603]

That's the only way it's going to work though. He can't have anyone parking outside his house or he'll be unable to charge. The council should make it easier to install a post and cut into the paving to hide the cable.

[@doriangray6985]

100%

[@Mr4fksake]

I'd park outside his deliberately just to piss him off !! 👍🤣

[@waqasahmed939]

@@sargfowler9603 Tbh it depends on your neighbours too. People on my parent's street understand that they can get the spot outside their home most of the time but it is a free for all. There's no guarantee of having a spot. Hopefully you could get longer cabling though when you can't charge directly outside

[@tacca2747]

Great video. It's obvious that you care about your customers. I'm lucky to have a driveway myself, but it's good to know that those who don't can still charge from home.

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you 👍

[@FireMunki63]

Only if they can actually park outside their property!

[@LoftechUK]

Great job. Now you hope your neighbours are willing to let you park there as it’s a nightmare parking lot

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you! Yes well that’s not my problem fortunately, hopefully they have a good relationship with the neighbours! 👍👍

[@PippetWhippet]

@mrmonkey2214You can simply drive to an ev charger and charge it there, in much the same way petrol and diesel cars need to be driven somewhere to be refuelled. It’ll take 10 minutes longer, granted, and cost only slightly less than petrol, but it’s still an option. No ev owner parks at their house without enough charge to get to their preferred charger in the same way you don’t park up without enough fuel to get to the nearest petrol station. It’s just they they can charge at home and unless you have a diesel chip fat plant in your garage, you can’t.

[@LoftechUK]

@mrmonkey2214 you could ask the council to put a white line on the space trying to prevent parking. I dunno what else could be done.

[@chargeriderepeat7024]

Firstly as a gas engineer my butt was clenching when I saw the run, but you installed it perfectly. I would say you are going to see people converting their gardens to driveways...you need to team up with a builder 😂

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you!! Yes I can see a lot of front gardens getting converted into driveways, sounds like a good forward plan!

[@peterthebricky]

Did you see the denso tape

[@waynegazard5038]

Applied , 2 grand plans +application + re try as only one off road allowed +numerous drainage landscaping stipulations quote now 40 grand + did about 2thousand miles last Yr

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Some councils are installing cable trenches across their pavements so people can use their own electricity without causing a trip hazard.

[@puppet-head]

My council is fitting cable slots into the pavement for people, nice easy solution.

[@Lewis_Standing]

Which brands?

[@mumihp]

I always wondered how you would charge if you had no driveway, but this has confirmed what I wanted. We are buying a house and every house we have seen, has a driveway as we are planning to get a hybrid car in a few months time. But have a driveway will just make it easy to charge. While it might not be a problem now but could be if every house decides to do this... Wires on the pavement is just asking to be sued.

[@sotaelectrical]

Yes hopefully a better solution will be around before we get to that stage

[@chargehanger]

One solution is a Chargehanger mounted on a pole

[@PippetWhippet]

@@sammorrisuk4584Your house would be as firmly affixed to the floor as it ever was. You’re not going to lose or loose your house over a trip claim unless you’re a complete fool. The mitigation that the authorities gave you permission would see the case against you so weakened that their lawyer would flip from “trying to win” to “milk every £ out of them and drag this out indefinitely” with you having to respond to about three motions a year until they are skint.

[@honesty_-no9he]

Forget Hybrid get a PURE EV the Hybrid sold in Western countries are a joke. A pure EV is way better.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Unless you regularly drive hundreds of miles it's not really necessary to get hybrid rather than BEV these days.

[@jsouto77]

I can already picture people putting cones outside their house as to reserve the space and a few rows coming out of it!

[@sotaelectrical]

Yeah maybe so, hopefully people can be considerate and work together

[@jsouto77]

@@sotaelectrical The words considerate and people dont always go hand in hand unfortunately. Some people (and I sometimes have arguments with the Mrs over this) dont like others parking in front of their house as they think its their personal space on a non roped kerb. I personally dont mind as long as they dont park to close to the drive as it makes it awkward to go in and out.

[@sotaelectrical]

@@jsouto77 yeah I understand, I’m just trying to avoid parking debates with people over this video 🤣

[@jsouto77]

@@sotaelectrical It will be fine 😉

[@TrickyTree84]

Times change. You need to adapt. Complaining will get you nowhere. I'm sure if there was a comments section in the 50s "I can see it now, our streets will be full of cars and there will be nowhere to park".

[@allisterdavidson9805]

Would make sense for the council to install a channel into the paths from fence to gutter say 50mm deep x 50mm wide covered with a checker plate hinged lid. Have the owner apply for an install and a 1 off payment maybe ? Or add an annual "charger channel access" fee to their rates. So yes, there might be one channer per house eventually. Would be easy install if the channel was one piece galv channel with a flange that they could anchor to the cement. All they'd need to do is channelout 50 wide x 50 deep and sink it in between the cut out, anchor it at each and and Bobs your uncle.

[@allisterdavidson9805]

There ya go - when things quiet down propose that to the council and offer them the service to install them! Instant business model for you.

[@dartmoordave]

Prices quoted at 5k just for that.

[@deanj846]

They don't even govern full fibre...my local town is like a third World cart track...the road is a joke..

[@trueriver1950]

One issue with that is what happens when utilities need to dig up the pavement...

[@deanj846]

@@trueriver1950 In my town the roads are a joke,internet providers don't give a f***

[@ajohnson2381]

You are doing your job in accordance with current regs, good on you for getting the jobs. However, when the councils start receiving claims for people tripping over numerous cables covered or not they will stop installations like this and charge permits for existing ones. We are not ready for the ev concept with no adequate systems in place.

[@paulharrop5879]

What happens if somebody decides to park their vehicle outside a house with a charger installed . If the home owner has not had the kirb dropped by the council he has no legal right to the space outside the house and cannot ask the other vehicle to move while he charges his vehicle .Yet another cause for arguments .

[@sotaelectrical]

Hi paul, I don’t have the answer im afraid, thanks for watching though!

[@grahamwalker5693]

A dropped curb means nothing, anyone can park

[@twig3288]

While you may be able to get away with parking on a dropped kerb in some cases, it’s not worth taking a chance. The £90 fine you could receive is much higher than you would pay for parking in a proper car park.

[@leeroberts1192]

If the kerb has been dropped then it's illegal for anyone to park there

[@philtucker1224]

@@grahamwalker5693if there is a dropped curb commencing entry to a driveway it has to be kept clear.

[@demonkey123]

Thanks for making the video. I understand that you’re trying to make the best of a difficult situation and help the client out but this is just not a long-term solution is it. we can’t have these all over the country spanning the pavements it’s just an accident waiting to happen. I remember working on the job back in the 90s where we had a secure gen set up in the street. We tried everything. We tried building a gantry up and over the pavement to support the cable. We tried similar solution to yours, using the ground level cable protectors. We even tried lifting slabs and running the cable temporarily underneath the pavement within hours of every installation, the council were there shaking their heads, it’s amazing how the rules and regulations evolve, depending on how desperate they are.

[@Lewis_Standing]

There is more permanent safer solutions, look up kerbo charge or green mole. Basically gulley's in the pavement to prevent tripping. As more and more people on a street do convert their cars to electric, people will have to learn to cooperate. You might not even need to plug in at your home. There's the tech to sell your houses electric to a neighbour eg. Just park or plug share. Imagine if the car had a modem in that told your neighbours electric company who to send the bill to? I've been charging my car on my terraced road for 3 years now in the back alley.

[@starlight122012]

Nah, I blame people for buying a stupid EV in the first place, not the council.

[@carvanplace]

Fantastic video again. And in depth. I actually make notes and refer back to them. One of the best in depth installer videos on youtube i think. Have a great Sunday. Sav 👍

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you so much, hope you have a great weekend also!! 👍👍

[@darrenkeenan2258]

Yes,and here we have it ladies and gentlemen, this is what you are paying for,trademan who knows what he is doing,look at the equipment and tools you need to complete a professional job! No drive no problem, See it can be done Well done, not trying to hide anything, instead films everything. Show some love smash the like button!

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you!! You’re a legend!! 👍👍

[@Waynesworldofgaming]

Love you videos man, all the camera angles you set up must take an age. The extra effort you put in is first class 👌🏻

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you so much. I really enjoy making videos so I make the extra effort I get good shots while I work. Thanks for watching and best wishes for Xmas 👍👍

[@Waynesworldofgaming]

@@sotaelectrical it really shows that you take pride in it. Keep them coming. Marry Christmas to you and your family

[@sotaelectrical]

@@Waynesworldofgaming thank you, same to you 👍👍

[@hakz07]

he's charging by the hour mate :D

[@DTech101]

I went with the new model Indra looks good and has a loads of safety features main reason for going with Indra, PS I’d always go wired Ethernet and the integration with energy providers API is good. Mine came with the dongle but I’m trying to phase a lot of wifi out of my tech it’s just too unreliable mines wired. PS a word of note to anyone always try and get a charger that works with your energy provider instead of the cars API as a lot of Ford EV owners are finding out 😢 with Octopus 🐙

[@sotaelectrical]

I agree if I can hardwire I will, but sometimes it’s so much work that the customer doesn’t want to pay for. Great tips by the way!! 👍👍

[@waqasahmed939]

@@sotaelectrical Also depends on the type of customer I want to have ethernet connectivity everywhere, so I wouldn't want an electrician just straight up connect straight into my router. For me that's a no no. I'd want a proper patch cable, and wall ports for such a thing.

[@TheCBRNick]

My issue with this, ignoring all arguements about cables crossing pavements, is simply this. I live in a terraced house with no driveway. A lot of people park in our street and i get to park outside my house maybe once or twice a week if im lucky. Most of the time Id never get to charge my car because i cant get close enough for the cable to reach.

[@sotaelectrical]

It’s not going to work everywhere for sure

[@stephenwalker6823]

Unless you do an unusually high mileage, that might not be such a problem. I do a slightly higher than average UK mileage and only need to charge once or twice a week.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

In situations like this you probably need the council to install lamppost chargers so you can charge anywhere on your street. Unfortunately they do tend to be rather more expensive than using your own electricity.

[@TheCBRNick]

​@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Hahahaha 😂😂😂 I don't know where you live, but it appears not to be on earth. But on the UK South coast here in the real world, our district council is approximately 18 months from bankruptcy and can't even afford to have street lights on after 11pm. And the county council has something like an £11.5 million deficit in highways and can't afford to repair potholes that in some roads round here, look like ww2 bombed runways. The police are being cut, libraries are being cut, public space maintenance is being cut, street lights are being turned off at night, rubbish collections are being reduced etc etc. There is more chance of me suddenly turning into a bright pink pumpkin and floating to mars than there is of any investment in local infrastructure. 😂😂😂

[@peterjackson846]

Loving that trip hazard of a cable and its 'ramp' ..... how can anyone think that's acceptable ?

[@stephenwalker6823]

I'm not sure what the courts would make of an accident, as councils themselves are not required to fix pavements where slabs are raised (or sunk) up to a 1" (25mm) difference. Logically, why should a cable and ramp (as used to prevent trips in many offices), of no more than 1" height be considered a different hazard?

[@waterboy8999]

​@@insertyoutubeusernames Or if it's been snowing, oh ya........

[@GoogleUser-yj1wy]

This is a ridiculous idea, no cables across footpaths should be allowed

[@stephenwalker6823]

@@GoogleUser-yj1wy then no raised pushing slabs, no above ground tree roots, perhaps even no kerbs should be allowed.

[@pauljohnson9326]

That would get 100% vandalised where I live in about 20 mins.

[@IanHeyer-fn1fd]

As this is feeding into a public road there is no guarantee that you’ll get parking outside your house, then you’re well and truly screwed, anyone can park there

[@terry987654]

So basically the council will approve running cable across pavement but will through you under the bus if someone trips over it.

[@sotaelectrical]

Probably.

[@barrieshepherd7694]

Technically the council can't approve running cables across the footpath as, as mentioned in another comment, it is against part of the Highways Act. I guess what council is saying they will choose not to prosecute under that Act. Will be interesting if a Karren chooses to bring a private prosecution.

[@mr.b.4048]

Whilst not interested in EVs/ chargers, always interested in watching tradesmen’s skills and tips. Subscribed 👍

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you buddy 👍👍

[@almaclaren4080]

the biggest problem i have is the belief that a home owner owns the street outside the property. if some one parks in the spot they have no legal redress. this will cause problems or with the councils use this as a way to charge for parking on a public street to ensure the parking spots for property owners.

[@duplicitouskendoll9402]

I have a drive for 2 cars but had a skip for a couple of days so only space for 1 temporarily - my wife's car as she has the kids. I came home from work and parked in the only space available at the time, outside someone else's house where 99% of the time they park their van. I went out later that evening and noticed he'd come home and decided to park across my drive in retaliation, blocking my wife in. At this point there were a number of other places he could have parked, but he did this instead. It forced me to knock on his door and tell him to move it, to which him and his neurotic wife came back with a rant about how inconsiderate I was to park in THEIR space. They told me to move my car first and on principle I refused - it wasn't their space - and told them to use one of a number of other spaces right near to it. They refused to move the van. The council and the police both told me to 'go whistle' when I tried to get help. The arrogance and entitlement of some people when it comes to parking is staggering. It was a one-off event and they threw a total meltdown over it!

[@mikethompson2593]

You can also get flat rectangle cable which would need even less of a bump - has been used in under floor speaker cable for years - there is sure to be a suitably rated type for the voltage and current

[@gemmawinslet]

thats all very well if you can park directly out side your house some times you have to park sometimes treets away ,

[@sotaelectrical]

Yes I know, that I cannot help with I’m afraid

[@Lewis_Standing]

A typical new EVs range might do a typical commute for a fortnight. So it's less of a worry. Plus the person who hasn't parked within streets of their house, isn't buying an EV at the moment. Looks like quite a middle class terrace and I bet it's less cramped with less parking issues than another might be.

[@stephenwalker6823]

@@Lewis_Standing for average UK mileage, it's more like once a week and twice if an extra, longish journey is thrown in during that week. It should be possible for most people to park outside their own house that often.

[@rob5944]

Hey, on the holes at the end of the cover you could have fixings for the cable, ones such as found on the top of a washing liquid bottle.

[@mattClarke-c7j]

You cannot do that Town Police Clauses Act 1827 it us an offence to obstruct the highway a footpath/pavement is part of the said highway love to see the civil litigation when someone trips and gets injured it will be down to the company that installed it.

[@sotaelectrical]

They police won’t attend your house if it gets burgled or your van broken into so not much chance of them enforcing anything

[@kingsaf3998]

Another great upload, perfect on a Sunday morning with a cup of tea. Where is your work van.

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you!! I just got my van back from repairs on Friday!! Took 4 weeks to repair! Enjoy your Sunday!! 👍👍

[@waltdisnenycopyright8048]

I have this with nearby neighbours and they think it's their dedication parking space, better than watching tele when someone parks there

[@Number6_]

Some people are mental.

[@steveharrod6911]

yes exactly , and they have no rights at all .

[@MhWow66]

I have absolutely no idea about anything you spoke of....But its real dam interesting!

[@doriangray6985]

It would be great to do an update, focusing on the satisfaction of the customer being able to charge his car outside his house.

[@dsmale7067]

Top marks for efforts.

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you 👍

[@sang3Eta]

They should have dropped the curb and parked in the front garden. Off street parking would have added value to the property and guaranteed a parking spot near their charger.

[@sotaelectrical]

They may do this

[@james-5560]

What we could do with is streets without driveways having lamp post chargepoints, the supply is already there for the lighting, so a charger could be placed up against or next to. If there were some way of registering with the chargepoing that linked it to your home electricity supplier for billing on your normal bill, or just contactless billing. As it stands unless you have a driveway it isn't economically viable or practical to get an EV, especially with the outragous rates at some of the public chargers.

[@Phantomthecat]

Great installation and video. Totally not allowed in my area here in Australia though. The Council have been sending letters to all residents telling us that on street charging like this with leads across footpaths or looped through trees is strictly prohibited - I'm guessing it's happening but I haven't seen any. The letter also mentioned that cable ramps of any description are also strictly forbidden due to safety concerns and insurance reasons. It pretty much excludes anyone without a driveway owning an EV because we don't have any public charging points in town either - Oh, I don't live miles from anywhere but in a town of 35,000 that's just 1/2 hour from Melbourne CBD. I can't see how EV's can work on mass because of these sort of issues.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Because they don't want you plebs owning cars. Or having spare money

[@SJM689]

Great install buddy, I always run through the cable run in my mind on the way to a job, and even though a crawl space under the boards is not the most glamorous, god do i get excited when I see one...makes life 100 times easier. JBE is right on point below...sooner or later the streets in the uk are going be getting dug up to lay bigger cables.... Western power i believe are already making 3 phase the norm on new installs...SSE need to get with the times....or streets will soon start blowing substation fuses 😂

[@sotaelectrical]

Hello buddy thank you!! I do the same with running through the job!! Have a good weekend 👍

[@thetruthwillwinoneday]

This is MADNESS. Now ramp this up, everyone has a EV, grid goes down, chargers turned off, the utter chaos that will result. Stick with a mix of fuel, EV’s have a place but are not the entire solution. At least if this EV self ignites it will not burn the house down and will only take a dozen cars out. Nice work fella…..👍👍. Fellow Sparks Here.

[@sotaelectrical]

Hi mate, yeah if I’m honest I can’t see us going all electric completely, thanks for watching though mate, have a great Xmas!

[@johnnyg1700]

@@sotaelectrical Try telling the Government that. They have already said, ICE vehicles are banned from 2035 but if Labour get in next election that will change to 2030.

[@Lewis_Standing]

National grid aren't concerned about us all going EV. Sure the DNOs will need to upgrade more local substations and the wires on the street but the electricification of transport will use less energy than we've cut off our use since the 1990s. When you see solutions like green mole, kerbo charge and other on street charging solutions it all falls into place.

[@stephenwalker6823]

When more cars are EVs and most have V2G, then at times of grid stress, the grid can be boosted from some of the connected EVs, with the power used being replaced later (it being possible to set a required time to be charged by to ensure that the cars can ensure that they are not down on charge when people need to go to work).

[@stephenwalker6823]

@@johnnyg1700but that is only new ICE vehicles. There will be another 20 years or so for most existing ones to reach scrapping, so there is time for more nuclear and storage of renewables to be built.

[@Krayzpete]

Also, they make specialist pliers for the crimps you used on the CT. Scotchlock Pliers.

[@robertbowden3599]

Another highly interesting and educational video Adam - for installers and customers alike, I think. I love your solution orientated approach and ability to find products to suit different/difficult situations. 👍

[@sotaelectrical]

Thanks Bob as always!! 👍👍

[@robertbowden3599]

Now over 4k subscribers too! Onwards & upwards!@@sotaelectrical

[@johnmckay1423]

20mm? Most paving has more unevenness than that and this cable cover is highlighted and nicely sloped. Much less of a problem than i expected. I still think the obvious solution to cables crossing paths is drainage channel. At 19:59 there's already a surface drainage channel across the path. Swap that for a deeper channel with a cover and you've got a completely flush solution with no trip hazard at all. More difficult to get permission for that though.

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you for your comments and for watching 👍👍

[@Lewis_Standing]

See kerbo charge or green mole. Probably many other brands I've forgotten the name off. Many are doing this.

[@stephenwalker6823]

I agree. Councils do not have to fix pavements and cannot be held liable for injury, where a paving slab is raised no more than 1". There is no good reason that a cable and cover should be treated any differently. However, adding channels is the best option - except of course councils will want an application, permission and installation by an approved contractor ... I think the current price that I have seen is around £600.

[@BULLEAD]

Pleasure to watch your videos. Quality install as per normal.

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you 👍👍

[@ascot4000]

If the neighbour installs then installed one, who may be on a different phase, leg or even a different transformer, how does it overcome the risk of simultaneous touching of metallic surfaces? Effectively, has the council, by abdicating their role with the previous scheme, just passed this risk down to the individual spark(s) or homeowners for the risk of third-parties touching 2 vehicles that may have a considerable difference in potentials? Watching installations in the rain brings a different perspective to all things electrical - glad you include them!

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Could you require that all EV chargers have a ground rod connection? If you and your neighbour's charger are both grounded to the ground then there couldn't be much potential difference between them, right?

[@andysims4906]

I wonder how long that charger will last . Maybe 2 years. My mate is on his 3rd one in less than 4 years . My charger for my ICE car is over 60 years old . It doesn’t need apps no electronics inside. and it works great

[@sotaelectrical]

Great!

[@Mr4fksake]

The charger will last about an hour when it gets dark and then it'll dissappear!!

[@dan-ex7zb]

You should link the cable cover in future videos and affiliate yourself with them. Just a thought 💭 Brilliant work 🤙🏼

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you 👍👍

[@johndawe449]

Absolutely brilliant, hats off to you mate.

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you mate merry Xmas

[@nicktrinder1117]

Top drilling that man,dont understand some trades not taking the drill of hammer wen goin throu outside walls(or inside in your case)?!u should see the state of my brick outside my rented property that the virgin cable chap done,i was fuming wen i got home!!they gave me 4 months free Internet but eva way its not the point summit so simple. Keep doin wot ur doin 👍

[@bentheguru4986]

Yes, you do need to take note of the colour pairs in data cable. Blues are for old PSTN/POTS and used for Positve side of PoE.

[@thanoswasright626]

You know some idiot is purposely trip over that and claim it was an accident.

[@itsmyview2024]

with the jel crimps for the ct, better to use the parallel (water pump) pliers set to a narrow gap which gives a near parallel squeeze rather than taper from ordinary pliers, minor point but it more reflects the proper tool used by telecoms guys.

[@sotaelectrical]

Great tip and noted, thank you 👍

[@tech4pros1]

seeing the inside of that charger, the little computer daughterboard in it is obviously some sort of possibly arduino compatible off the shelf single board computer.. it'll be easily software modificable to integrate into pretty much anything! adding extra functionality would be trivial. would be interesting once it's connected to the wifi to PuTTY into it, port 80. i'd put £20 on it that you'd get to a command line.

[@222inverter]

Hydrogen is the way forward

[@sotaelectrical]

Probably!!

[@muckymcfly]

This was facinating, thanks for being so informative.

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you for watching!

[@SteveN-pw4dj]

Interesting, so you will soon need a licence to charge your car... Have they let slip the future EV tax?

[@sotaelectrical]

I just read word from word the article, not let anything slip, I know nothing more than you do 👍👍

[@bluenose1744]

This seems a good compromise. You would have to be very picky to see any issues. Thanks, interesting video.

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you 👍

[@thewonderofyou1]

Just wait until a pushchair goes over it and lifts it slightly.. or someone kicks it.

[@paulosullivan3472]

You have done the best you can here but the fact is that is a clear safety concern for any pedestrians. Not only is it a potential tripping hazard for the elderly or blind but if the wire protection gets worn an exposed wire would be connected directly to the mains, this is clearly not acceptable to do. The people do not need to charge their vehicles, electric vehicles need to be banned, they are a fire hazard as well as causing other hazards like this. We need to ban these electric vehicles from our roads.

[@acurrentname]

How long before the copper thieves snip it off?

[@sotaelectrical]

Let’s wait and see!!

[@wkdsush]

I can't see Wolverhampton Council ever agreeing to this unfortunately. This is a game changer though! If only councils are open open to this idea

[@David-xl9cp]

And they pretend that we are ready for EV’s 😂😂😂😂😂

[@sotaelectrical]

No where near

[@Snoozzzzzze]

Don’t forget the electric heat pumps that we all have to have fitted in the next few years, what could possibly go wrong?

[@James-xg4jr]

Audio way better! Portsmouth must be a fan of the channel….big dollars incomingggggg

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you!! I tried with the audio 👍👍

[@meta0269]

As electric cars become common hopefully councils would consider making something like a drainage channel in the pavements to run cables without any bump.

[@sotaelectrical]

There are loads of solutions exactly like this but it’s just getting the council on side to allow things like this to be installed

[@bergmech69]

The issue also lies with simultaneous contact across different supply earthing systems. This can’t be avoided when using the customers supply. Lamp post charging would have been the safest option

[@impy1980]

This isn't aimed at you in anyway, I know you're just trying to earn a living and working within the guidelines provided. But for the council to approve this sort of solution is ridiculous, as someone who is ambulant disabled, | would 100% consider that a trip hazard. Interesting the council are basically passing all liability onto the EV owners, it will be equally interesting to see future legal cases and reactions of cable owners when someone enviably trips and ends up injured. Normal home insurance won't cover injury liability, particularly on a public highway/footpath, whilst I anticipate home insurance to increase do to EVs, since car insurance already has. I'm also surprised given most charging will be done in the evening, dark outside of summer months, that there isn't a requirement for the cable/cover to be lit in someway, even if the height of the cover is "minimal", it's not flat and remains a hazard. Councils are a joke, happy to push the nonsense of the EV / Net Zero agenda, but want nothing to do with the infrastructure or the safety of it, almost like they know the agenda is BS.

[@joedee1863]

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[@Mike_5]

You just know someone is going to get in the car and drive off without unplugging it first ...

[@sotaelectrical]

I’ve had this before!! But it was on a driveway, wrecked the charger only a week after install.

[@Mike_5]

@@sotaelectrical Nice 🙃

[@Adam-Electrical]

Pretty sure most if not all cars won't allow this. Although I did have one where they unplugged it and threw it on floor and it got caught on the towbar and ripped the charger clean off the wall 🧱

[@sotaelectrical]

@@Adam-Electrical I thought the same!! It was a fault with the car and not the vehicle that allowed this to happen on this occasion!

[@Mike_5]

@@Adam-Electrical Quality driving

[@bigjd2k]

Good that cooked bell transformer went!

[@sotaelectrical]

Absolutely!!

[@stefanlclark]

0:24 subtitles "they also live in a terrorist house"

[@sotaelectrical]

That’s not my subtitles, KZbin does those, I can’t change that buddy

[@stefanlclark]

I know. Just thought it funny. Rather than scrolling past in my feed I got stopped in my tracks and watched a little longer.

[@sotaelectrical]

@@stefanlclark I thought you were snagging me 🤣 thanks for watching a little longer 👍

Great explanation. It was intresting to watch. Congratulation!

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you!! 👍👍

[@showmytime9177]

the people DON'T need to charge their vehicles, the people need brains! if a vehicle needs hours to refuel and you don;t have your own storage space for the vehicle and/or the fuel, then don't buy such vehicle.

[@sotaelectrical]

So what’s your answer to all the fleet companies that businesses use to lease vehicles for their staff who are now only leasing electric cars? It’s not always people buying them, it’s what they are supplied by the companies they work for for

[@showmytime9177]

@@sotaelectrical oh, if we only had vehicles that can be refueled in minutes without the need to store them when refueling or own special infrastructure in order to refuel them... oh wait, their called engine-vehicles and run on combustable fluids! EVs are a scam! They don't work. They will make pollution worse. EU has forbidden any other tech for powering vehicles, thus is not about saving the environment but is about making money and funking us over in the process, 'cause an EV will always be tethered.

[@paulharrison2325]

That’s great in your head, now in reality people without driveways and garages or dedicated parking spaces are going to need a way to charge.

[@sotaelectrical]

@@paulharrison2325 exactly

[@showmytime9177]

@@paulharrison2325 they need another type of vehicle, NOT a charger. What if you live in a flat, 30 stories up?

[@snodgee]

I would ban the cable on the pavement when the street lights go off and it’s pitch black

[@bakerrrc1900]

I'm just gonna park outside their house on purpose now.

[@Ra-zor]

I can't get a parking space outside my house more than probably once a week at most! with someone parking a works van on a night outside or a local visitor parking over the weekend, and as for that cable cover, that would go walkies within a matter of days in cities!, would probably vanish within a few weeks even in my town actually!. You would probably get claims against you left right and centre every year as people claim they tripped over it (providing its still there lol). A very niche solution for more rural folk (which probably have driveways and drive a diesel Land Rover anyway!). If you can't park your Ev outside, you can't charge it, which kind of turns your Ev in to a paperweight, which does tempt you towards wanting to trade it in for that Land Rover diesel out of sheer real world practicality!.

[@stephenwalker6823]

Their is no reason that it cannot be mandated that tripping over the cable is the passer-by's own fault - that is the case with paving slabs raised no more than 1" and there is no logical reason for it to be different with a cable cover.

[@nickthegardener.1120]

Just don't buy an ev. 👍

[@samd2660]

I'd always go hardwired if possible, don't forget you only need 2 pairs for 100mb ethernet which is more than more than enough for an EV charger, so you already have the possibility between the EVSE and supply (1 for CT, 2 for ethernet & 1 spare). I'm not sure if it's something that's been brought up 🤷 and appreciate other things come into play, but it might make hardwiring a little more attractive/easier especially when WiFi isn't enough (or not preferred), as (I imagine) there's a subscription for the mobile dongle.

[@sotaelectrical]

Hi mate yes this has been brought up several times, the router was the other side of the house so I could not hardwire it, I always do if I can 👍

[@Mr4fksake]

No good if you've got a poor WiFi signal and even with a good signal indoors and you've got solid brick walls the signal strength can be reduced and therefor not reach to outside 🤔

[@sk83rboy00]

Great video mate, always a neat & tidy install. Didn’t realise I work in the same area as you, I’m based down eastern road as a sparks. We fit EV chargers as well but never done one without a driveway. I still don’t know how they allow for trailing leads along the pavement…

[@sotaelectrical]

Hello mate! Thank you! Nice one, I’m based in Fareham so if you ever see me or the van come say hello!! I know the whole no driveway thing is not ideal but it’s a reality so thought I would make a video and it has been as controversial as I predicted 🤣

[@martynsamsom8237]

Smashing, informative video. Thank you. The only thing missing ……….. How much did all this work cost? Something to bear in mind BEFORE you invest in an EV!

[@Lewis_Standing]

My install was about a grand. Which was exactly the same as what I saved in a year home fuelling it Vs a 50mpg petrol car. So now at 3 years, I'm 2 grand up.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

​@@Lewis_Standing But down still the premium for buying an EV.

[@PASPersonal]

Another great video. Get a grip Pompey council !!!

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you!! Yeah Pompey council!! 👍

[@tellitasyouseeit7555]

Great installation Adam. Well routed and hidden out of view with the cables. Good to see a sparky fit what the customer needs, not what makes him more money. Keep up the content and have a fantastic 2024. All Ra best Fae Bonnie Scotland ( north of Carlisle)

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you very much and thanks for the support!! Appreciated!! Have a great 2024 also!!

[@MrChrishatcher]

I love those mats in hallway. Where did you get them from mate? Great vid!!

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you!! They are velocity mats from velocity

[@Proinsperation]

Great install! What I would say though is you should be capping your drilled holes with some silicone to avoid future damp issues.

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you!! I did seal lol tho holes 👍👍

[@wolfmatty]

On your blue, blue/white pair they are un-used for Cat5 you could use the green, white/green & orange white/orange to make hardwired network connection to a port inside the house might be easier when wifi not too good for the internet connect 100mb for a changer should be fine.

[@sotaelectrical]

Hi mate, thanks for your comment, I always us the spare pairs to hardwire an internet connection if I can, in this case the router was the other side of the house so not practical. Thanks for watching!! 👍👍

[@shropshireladoutdoors743]

Great instal and explanations one mayor problem you are not gaurenteed to park outside your own home 🙄

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you, yes that is the obvious issue but they have no choice but to try

[@MatthewEng2593]

At 19:22 there are already cable gullys in the path for drainage that the cable would fit flush with the path in. Or scrape some mortar out between the paving slabs to fit the cable flush.

[@sotaelectrical]

Hi Mathew, maybe the customer may do this. Thanks for watching!

[@Leem3155]

The Charge Arm is also a good idea for places like this

[@philtebble4390]

Nice job mate 👍

[@sotaelectrical]

Thank you 👍👍

[@rickarmstrong4704]

Oh Dear all the gatekeepers filling their coffers over and over again, force People into a method and then make that as dificult as possible also! Good for Your and a Great Job B.T.W. Cheers!!!

[@hugebartlett1884]

So gratifying to see the planet being saved . Cheaper to keep your old car for a bit longer. The planet will be here long after this civilization has vanished.

[@davidmcauley1399]

Don’t understand why it’s the councils problem when you brought the car.