Aviators - Ghosts of our Fathers (Dark Alternative)

[@kolpoxj5651]

I'm aiming to be a writer. I finished my first novel more than half a year ago, and Aviators music really helped me with inspiration, so I guess I can thank him for that. 6th of March is the aprox date of when I will know if my book has been recieved by the publisher I want. If it works, then the 6th of march will definitely be one of if not the best day of my life

[@veveronshade3409]

Good luck ! :-] hope it goes well for you !

[@calhanlon5568]

Good luck dude, might have a read of it if it comes out

[@SimplyDuker]

Will you show us your work when you done? Because you've intrigued me.

[@quantum5661]

send us a link when its out, yeah?

[@Azuwishgaming]

I wish you luck dude!

[@isaacchapman7628]

I am a simple man. I see a new Aviators song, I like it and listen to it 20 times over the course of the day.

[@zerostarlight1751]

20 times over the course of the day, those are rookie numbers compared to a replay monster like me ... poor replay button

[@Benkroft9013]

Hahha so true.

[@randomguy_justpassinthroug7885]

were alike cept the fact that i put it on replay for several hours(nearly half a day usually)

[@ShadowBoltTF2]

You had me at "new album." Just take my money. Take it all.

[@cr0ssley]

I mean it, Take. It. All

[@BlueSpring3]

So this song is like the "Your ancestors looking down at you struggle" meme, with the "Press (Y) to shame" part.

[@generalwing1011]

I don't know how Avi manages to do it, but every song he drops perfectly reflects how do I feel at any given time... Just look Recently I've been having an enormous mental breakdown (to the point where I've decided to go to therapist) about my future, about future in general and all of that... And these lyrics "Are you speaking for yourself or your pain? Do you sleep in the silence to wane the passing shame? You are more than what your history made you" "And your feel misunderstood Not succeeding like you should But the game says you aren't strong enough Work hard enough" Are something I felt way too strongly. But not only these lyrics, the whole song sent a barrage of shivers down my spine (That's not to say I feel worse due to the song or anything, every drop instantly makes my day better - no matter how f*cked up it was) but... The very last lyrics (excluding chorus) are something that... That caused tears to fall down my face... "You've been blaming friends you knew But we all are victims too Restricted by the ghosts of days Long passed away" That friends' part... It brought a lot of painful memories back, but also helped me realize quite few things so... After all these long talk... I just wanted to say... Thank You, Avi. Thank You for your content that is constantly getting better and Thank You for the songs I can relate to on a deeply personal level ❤

[@eliwiederhold4198]

He is great at powerful, stabilizing music.

[@sydneym8412]

I love this and I feel the same way.

[@lechking941]

ok firstly as i was reading the lines int he botton bit they wore song so woh but ya i get ya as his songs are cold clear and anything but fragile as it is a strong backed song and tbh i get ya as like thers day i had a break my sefl and this song is got a mocking tone to that feeling alowin me to recover this wound completly.

[@Yelsuk]

Literally half an hour ago I was wondering when another Avi's album is going to be released and now notification popped :D

[@FrozeDeep]

Same here. Aviators has truly granted us eyes...

[@ryanlevis7532]

He has a Discord: Aviators and Friends

[@locknpost1864]

Blessed with another song from Aviators

[@CoolCrimsonJaguar]

I think this one is my favorite, out of all your songs. There's lots of songs about dystopias, or fantastical worlds, or hopelessness. And they're all deep and meaningful and beautiful, and this one manages to be all of them and none of that at the same time. This isn't a dystopias in the traditional sense, it's just a world governed by hatred and old traditions. It sounds like it's full of propaganda, deceit, pride, and a sense of "if you just work hard enough, you can do anything! Just look at what Bill Gates did". But Everytime you try, something pulls you down and away. You're not Bill Gates. Even if you had all his talent, whose to say you'd have any of the same opportunities he had? And it's not like you don't have other talents, and it's not like you're not a hard worker. You try and try and when you get pushed down again and again, it's always your fault. You just Didn't Work Hard Enough. "If your great grandfather could work nineteen hours everyday, why can't you?" And in that frustration, that anger, it would be so easy to be awful, wouldn't it? You described the world as not having the protagonists best interests at heart, and I can't help but notice a few similarities between the song and our world. Excuse my dramatics, but I don't think this is a question of whether or not this is a dystopia. It's whether or not it's a fantasy.

[@rhonanbrownfield816]

Symptoms of Narcissism, as quoted from Pysch Central : - A grandiose sense of self-importance - Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, or brilliance - Belief that one is inherently "special" and/or unique - A very strong sense of entitlement, e.g. unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with one's expectations

[@andrasadam8256]

@@rhonanbrownfield816 While this is true, we should not forget that without some degree of sense of self-importance, fantasies of a better future, a little bit of ego and the desire for achieving more and more we cannot go forward, neither individually or as a species. It only becomes unhealthy or narcissistic when it is way overdone. I have to agree with OP, that we live in an unfair world, where the largest part of the population (especially outside of Europe and the US) does not get the same opportunities to educate themselves and to achieve the same personal and professional growth that we have here. And even in the developed regions of the world, life is still not fair, as OP said "not having the protagonists' (to be specific, the individuals') best interests at heart". I don't think the OP is narcissistic, at least based on this comment.

[@Blessed_V0id]

Fascinating. Truly spot on. This worlds tainted with greed, eating itself.

[@joshuacem2827]

Damn. Nailed it. Perfect.

[@adrianwozniak2586]

It's a mind trap. You shouldn't want to be like Bill Gates. If you value yourself in relation to others it doesn't matter if you follow old or new ways. You become a cog in the machine. Revolutions, change is part of the same old machine. You are more than your history made you, when you know your history. Mistakes, errors, traps, cycles. If you don't you will be doomed to repeat the cycle. And nothing will be changed, only asses on chairs, who is rich and who is poor. In these terms, we've not advanced ever since stone age. Ever since first human society was formed. Greed, envy and struggle for more resources, struggle for dominance. It is who we are. When you know it you don't need to rebel, to cry out against injustice. You make your own justice, you find your own greed, your own envy, and what resources matter to you. You define what dominance is. Rejecting it is potinless, accept but define it yourself. Become greedy for kindness, envy virtues, struggle for happiness. Dominate others by changing thier mind, not by forcing thier compliance.

[@fishpaste2100]

I’m enjoying seeing the direction this album is taking. This song has such an interesting style and I think it’s gonna be a super fun and interesting album to hear too!

[@adenentertainment7365]

UwU

[@guy3nder529]

thius song reminds me of "no one will save you", which is one of my favorite songs you have made. i see myself looping this a lot in the days to come

[@JRHainsworth]

4:32 Is genuinely beautiful

[@Claude_Lib]

1. Like 2. Play That's how I listen to Avi's music. EDIT. Oh man, that preview at the end...

[@Tekker2234]

same

[@kingdemo2891]

Same here

[@artilleryman895]

I find it fascinating how different people interpreted the song's message in significantly different ways. I viewed it as an attempt to warn against nationalism, someone else found it relatable to their individual life, there's a 3rd interpretation that this song is a warning against authoritarianism and the importance of individual action, and even such interpretation that those who want us to forget our traditions and our ancestors actually just want to control us. I'm sure there are more interpretations I just wrote down the ones I saw

[@JRHainsworth]

I see it as more of a personal thing. Learning to be my own person instead of who my parents want me to be.

[@AstraIVagabond]

The first three are pretty connected, though, aren't they? Nationalism and authoritarianism tend to be two aspects of the same society, and that society is likely to shape the people who raise us. The last is more divergent, but while culture and history aren't necessarily authoritarian, traditionalism tends to be tied with nationalism too, so it may be an opposite angle to the same broad message. I guess that's my interpretation. It speaks to all these things at once, like an epic sci-fi story where personal revelations will change the world.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@AstraIVagabond the problem being absense of all nationalism which includes patriotism is what allows choas and anarchy as if they people hate there country they will listen to any alternative just like what happend in weimar germany and we all know who took advantage there

[@inquisitorbenediktanders3142]

@@wilmagregg3131 I am german and despite what you think, patriotism exists here (outside of soccer matches) too, it's just in form of silent appreciation. When it comes to the song interpretations, I have one you probably haven't mentioned: An individual who is worn down by the expectations of others. The others make these expectations due to the actions of one/multiple of his/her ancestors. I've seen this one here in the comments and it's partially mine too.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@inquisitorbenediktanders3142 i know i specifally ment weimar gemrnay which was the breif horrible corrupt goverment of germany after ww1 and before mitler. though i do wish germans could be more patrotic in the modern day as well i still cant belive your leader disrecpected your flag on stage like that like it was something shamefull to be near her. though at least she isnt as senile and brain dead as our current leader gas prices have already near tripplied with no end in sight for instance since he took power.

[@Lucense]

from all the wips you had shown on streams, this one quickly had become a favourite, and it sounds even better now finished. amazing work, avi, as always, and looking forward to the full album coming!

[@hxka]

Wait, streams?

[@HenningsEdits]

@@hxka Yupp. Every thursday and saturday at 8PM EST www.twitch.tv/aviatorslivestream

[@Trombi01]

@@HenningsEdits Thank you, kind stranger.

[@HenningsEdits]

First Avi song of the decade! ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ All aboard the Cinematic Future hypetrain.

[@morningcoffeecat2271]

Choo choo 🚂

[@Tekker2234]

pay attention to the words of the song and you may be a bit less optimistic.

[@morningcoffeecat2271]

@@Tekker2234 why do you say that?

[@HenningsEdits]

​@@morningcoffeecat2271 I don't get it either lmao

[@RedJake33]

@@HenningsEdits I think he's trying to joke that the Future looks bleak, not the album.

[@kakyoinpepsi5694]

I love the hopelessness portrayed by this song. Just the fact that it’s masked by supposed change. Like this describes so much of human history especially in the past 100 years. Just this change for the sake of change, hid behind lies of benefit.

[@mrpojsomnoj3313]

"How many good song you can create?" Aviators: "Yes"

[@birdgvee4982]

Your music calms my anxiety attacks, inspires me to draw and lets me work with concentration despite my ADD. And I love you for that. Thank you.

[@renkohikawa7893]

After hearing this for the first time I gotta say I love the vibe this song is giving me The haunting atmosphere that it provides really is pleasant to experience and the lyrics and vocals in the background really help add to it. I can't wait for the album to release and it actually releases on the same day that a game I'm looking forward to releases so I'm especially excited for the 6th now! Really hope you keep up the good work because your music is some of the best I've listened to.

[@subjectzeta1680]

How...how have I not heard of you before now?!?!? Your songs are award worthy! ...is it the Grammys that deals with music? I forget, but you still deserve one.

[@sillygoose_8635]

Never thought that I would be called out by a song for being too stubborn to grow and improve as a person... You've been waiting for the truth to come find you Are you speaking for yourself or your pain? Do you sleep in the silence to wane the passing shame? You are more than what your history made you Thank you Avi...for a song, a reminder, that change in a new, better direction, is possible....thank you

[@joeyn.9135]

ugh, i can relate to this so much. can't wait for the new album!!

[@finalpotato8229]

Too much to be comfortable.

[@gaborr.592]

Well, when I first read the title of this song I thought that it will be a sad song of a family member.... I surprised when I listened this music :) Anyway, the lyrics made me wonder its topic and unfortunately we can say that this is the truth about our world. Great job! Another awesome song!

[@lancingknight]

I discovered your music not even two weeks ago, and all of the sudden a new ALBUM is coming?! I'm so lucky

[@KittyCatAddict]

Oh it's a good day when Aviators uploads. That picture is incredible. The music, even better 👌👌

[@Bouyphe]

I love this

[@flahartyc23]

Remembrance is Why The Past cannot be removed

[@miragray4284]

Deeply relevant to our time, and as always, an amazing song.

[@mab_cat]

I'm EARLY?! Fantastic work!

[@DanvolCovers]

I like it

[@flahartyc23]

The Memory doesn't Lie and the Memory is Manifested

[@themrmusicalbro]

Always a treat when I get a notification for one of your songs

[@zefonthemighty]

i swear i think i checked the day before this came out for a new song, i could sense it coming... and holy shit was it worth the wait

[@megi_w]

I can't describe how much I love all of your songs Avi. Every time you drop a new song I stop doing whatever I was doing at the moment and go quickly to listen. You are the only musician from who I can listen ANY song and got almost all songs from. I sometimes keep coming back to the old ones too. Today I was going through almost all of your songs, feeling some lovely nostalgia and drowning in your wonderful music. When anyone asks who is my fav singer, I quickly answer 'Aviators' You may be an indie musician, but I like you the most, there is no other singer I'm this excited to listen to. Yes I listen to manyyy types of songs and many musicians, but you are the only one who I follow and excitedly wait for a new song. Other songs I mostly just stumble upon or get recommended to by a friend. I love your voice, it's the perfect one that I like. Your lyrics are also so lovely, you have given me so much inspiration through life. Thank u so much for damn existing broo!

[@leonardgodina]

All of a sudden aviators! Releasing his music on a Wednesday? What are the odds also can't wait for this new album it's gonna be good, it always is!

[@jamespadgett3598]

It's this sort of content that keeps you in my top three favorite artists. :D

[@molly7240]

I love the message behind the lyrics, great song as always

[@K4n4shtoki]

Another song kept me voiceless, we are in a time, a dark time, that we never learn, and repeat the same mistake... Oblivion is our fiction... and we are guide by ''Mistaker'' and stranger forget the past and how life and future is precious. Our dark time come to a end, but repeating the same circle, symmetry, cycle from the past. This song give me this reflection, Hopefully I want believe someday, we gonna chase our ghost.

[@dragonknight6972]

I hope we can brake the cycle someday. I fear it will be the doom of us if we don't. I hope that's not the case because theirs so much we can do as a race than fight each other and lie about some of the details. even though I say this some one will just say the victor writes the book/history of the battle/war.

[@Mar_Marine]

In the time I've known about you, I've fallen in love with almost all your music. I'm so glad you and Gavin worked together on several occasions, because it led me to find you, and since then you've easily become one of my favorite artists. Could I ask what inspires some of your songs (not necessarily this one, if you wish) if you're comfortable sharing? It's always interesting to see what comes from an event or events that lead to such amazing depictions of emotion.

[@kernelofficial]

March is looking like one of the best months this year! Incredible work.

[@morningcoffeecat2271]

This album is going to be insane!!!! The mixing in this is the best you've ever done :v CAN'T WAIT TO PREORDER IT >~

[@Em053]

This honestly made me tear up, its incredible!

[@philiplynx6991]

Well now, that's certainly a promising preview to an upcoming album. I look forward to giving the full album a listen and likely adding it to my bandcamp collection when it comes out.

[@JRHainsworth]

What I take from this, Let go of your past mistakes and let yourself become a new person.

[@rose1047]

Every single Avi song makes me feel like going to explore, Don't know what. Old buildings, a new book, or even trying to write. Avi songs always pull at my emotions, and I love it. I'm addicted. ~Love, Avi fan

[@alexandrmotin2496]

So much support and warmth in a single song. Thank you. I do not know you personally but I feel like we are close friends.

[@Gabriel_TR]

After a long day of studying you give us this, thank you, i needed this

[@hinterlandseer6379]

I am incredibly excited to hear the rest of this album.

[@murkmurk3127]

Yes Avi! Was waiting and wasn't disappointed

[@lol-tz3mg]

The intro has a No More Heroes vibe and I love it

[@Caspenar]

Another amazing piece. I am always impressed by your work.

[@Bricriu-gj9dd]

YES! JUST WHAT I NEEDED FOR A LONG DAY AT WORK!!! THANK YOU AVIATORS!!!

[@MxTommy96]

Can't wait.

[@Sunshine-tu6cm]

Been waiting for this since I saw the promo in the Godhunter download. Massive hype for the full LP, and I can't wait to end up remixing half the album like with Godhunter.

[@selineoakenarrow3989]

Aviators never fails in making amazing songs like this

[@sydneym8412]

I LOVE your dark alternative songs

[@kristapraulina3966]

Love your songs! They're the reason why I am creative, having my own ideas for painting and story writing. Aviators, you and your songs inspire me.

[@RT-zf6oq]

Such a haunting song that hits so hard, well done.

[@decendum4165]

You’ve got my approval, always have! I love the beat, the rhythm, the lyricism. Just love it all... P.S: Goodnight, I go to bed when this song ends. Can’t wait for new album.

[@jacob_2435]

Hey, that album comes out on my birthday. That's a pretty nice gift, thank you

[@hmmmooops]

Timely

[@clement6090]

Gosh, that bridge sounds amazing !

[@rowanash5378]

I love this! I got hooked on Avi's music with Godhunter, and have been bingeing all of that quadrilogy since. The story he weaves through his works is truly amazing.

[@Hunterkiller-qy8sh]

Simply beautiful. New favorite right here, can't wait to put this on repeat while writing.

[@theindianacrew3811]

30 seconds in, and I’m already in love. Can’t wait for your next masterpieces!

[@Mikko-ny5kp]

Incredible!!! Aviators is the best!!!

[@Jarrettredid11]

Truly wonderful music. I can't wait for more!

[@JaySable44]

And Avi drops another amazing song! I've been waiting for the first single for the new album since Godhunter, and now it's finally here! Knowing that the album is almost here makes me incredibly excited. I can't wait to hear what all else it has in store for us. I'm hoping for more stuff like this, as well as something in the style of "Pop Cult Crucifixion" or "Here Come the Ravens." I'm sure that no matter what type of music is on it, though, that it's bound to be great. As always, I hope that everyone reading this has a great day. And I hope to see everyone at the release stream for The Cinematic Future!

[@carlosdasilva2409]

To me, it evokes visions of a struggling society with the potential of improving and becomming something greater. But it first needs to kill beliefs of the past, mistakes it should stop commiting. And once the outmoded system that is not of use anymore falls, a new dawn will rise to bask in the light of a better life for the members of said society.

[@Knight_Of_The_Blood_Moon]

Again you have crafted a masterpiece ... such masterful music makes me think of the world and the dark places we often ignore. How so many cracks in society are filled with people that have lost their chance at a good life due to the actions of others and must resort to means unlawful to survive... Such a sad world we live in.... *sigh*

[@ForgottenBridge]

A beautiful masterpiece, maybe a little to close to home but a good portion of yours songs have been there for me as well. Can't wait for the next album release so I can listen endlessly and enjoy the voyage of what this album has to share.

[@simonevo9743]

You never stop to amaze me. This is next level.

[@Voron_Aggrav]

Certainly a nice time for music, 3 new albums to listen to in the month of my Birth :) Can't wait for yours

[@UniTheAppl]

I can't wait for the new album to come out! This song is amazing and it already got me hyped

[@sergeant3869]

Need. More. Dark and depressing songs. You are the best at that.

[@thewestwind_]

I love it already! This song is so good.

[@andrewjennings7306]

Yes your back!

[@dongiannini4902]

Damn this hits home.... Well done Aviators

[@AbsolXGuardian]

Another song for our times! You've hit it out of the park again Mr. Aviators.

[@Pumpkinofgorge]

I love this artwork! Great song as always!

[@thegreatgloopy9591]

It's neat

[@thescratchyscratch7848]

has it really been 4 years already? wow

[@ThornWolf1]

Isn't this the perfect song for right now.

[@IrredeemableGhost]

Always exploding when I see an Avi notification!

[@Spurtarsnut]

Oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man. This is gonna be so awsome!!!

[@unknown127100]

Best birthday gift ever! 😍😍

[@nodaethelthenlyrias3361]

As usual, great, you really need more than 221K sub

[@mojothemusicking]

so aesthetic ^-^

[@SillySeaLily]

Not gonna lie. I keep coming up with more scenes for my stories when I hear your music. I don't know how to say this but your music was made for my story or...maybe my story was made for your music? I don't know. I'm just so stunned.

[@WolfForesttttt]

Oh my God! Beautiful song! So cool! 😍😍😍Aviators - the best! 😍

[@yourbestfriendinshooters3088]

Yes,yes,yes,yes... YES!

[@Jovelar]

This.....made my day. Thank you!

[@Hondasrock87]

Hell yeah got a new song to make sure everyone in my shop hears.

[@rateeightx]

I Am Simple Man, I See New Aviators Song, I Click!

[@SimplyDuker]

And another poetic gem from Aviators himself.

[@RinrinFran]

Another song to add to my playlist...

[@Dwolf-mm9ho]

I like this one. Another!💕

[@FrenchToast1]

Love it!

[@theoruzhiye5752]

I love this song! I look forward to buying this album. :D

[@SAAAANEESS]

damn, this is really good, i regret not clicking on this earlier