Sizzle Cymbals - Options & Sounds Beyond Jazz | Cymbal Sounds Ep. 10

[@ScottRinseRepeat]

I scored a 20" Zildjian K Z-MAC from GC for $70 a few years ago. It was always missing something to make it a great cymbal, so I sent it to Zildjian and had them install a three rivet cluster. Now it's an amazing addition to my sounds.

[@davidwinthrop7077]

I’ve got 3 sizzle cymbals in my collection, a 30-year old K Custom 20” dry ride which was really dry but with 3 rivets installed totally transformed its sound, an Istanbul Mehmet 21” Mel Lewis signature (one of my favourite drummers and cymbals) and a recent purchase a 40-year old Avedis Zildjian 20” Pang with 6-rivets which is the most mellow china I’ve ever played and was a bargain at less than £200!

[@northwoodsdan9759]

Great video. I drill all my rides for rivets and this is one of the best and clearest explanations I've seen on the subject. One other thing to consider using masking tape and US nickels and placing them in the pattern you want on the cymbal. This provides a lot more effect than a bathtub or hardware chain, allows for the remove the masking tape and effect between songs, and also provides a pretty good idea of what the sound will be before drilling the cymbal for rivets. Different rivet patterns (cluster vs. spread) also have a big impact on the sound.

[@FloydZappalin]

Great episode! Happy New Year!🎉

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Thanks and Happy New Year to you as well!

[@patdeniston3697]

Just a few weeks ago I was online looking for a high hat tambourine and saw a lot of rivet/sizzle type stuff and it looked interesting. After watching this video (nice timing) I'm now really interested. Thank you 👍

[@williamfotiou7577]

The first ride cymbal I ever bought, in 1976!, had sizzles in it. Man, i miss that cymbal. In those days it was in fashion.

[@RPMtunes]

Great topic! I'm currently looking for a 2nd ride cymbal to rivet. I'm not a jazz drummer but love the rivet sound! Happy New Year!

[@joc8]

I have a 20” Meinl flat jazz ride that has 4 rivets ( installed by the manufacturer, I might add) in my collection, other than that I sometimes use sizzler or rattler chains on various cymbals. Interesting how the Bosphorus ride being stiffer really made the rivets sing compared to the softer cymbal, that was a surprise, although considering the physics, I guess it makes sense. Happy New Year Ben & Cody.

[@collie147]

I've used paperclip chains to some degree of success on lighter cymbals. A friend of mine has used paper fasteners on a diy solution but I'd be curious about using chicago screws or some other type of paper/fabric rivet. Just a point to note, for the DIY solution dont use anything with a silver content as it'll corrode your cymbals!

[@brent3760]

I have myltiple cymbals that are riveted. Love all of them!

[@janknjazovic]

that intro! looks like I have a new ringtone! 🥰😇 and yes, Happy New Year! 💗

[@ayoungethan]

I forget where I first heard this but a couple of times I've heard stories of drummeers playing with various jazz vocalists who absolutely insist: NO CYMBAL RIVETS for their sessions. They hated the sound and it interfered with their voice. I use chains because you can easily adjust the length and the weight without tools, to optimize for a particular mix. Once it's in most mixes, apart from sparse acoustic ones, subtle variations get lost. To me, those subtle variations in tone (sustain, timbre, eq, etc) serve one purpose: to help the musicians create an inspired performance. But it does (or can) impact the bell sound more. PS thank you for a strict "no troll" policy. Those comments are just bummers to read and a psychological tax on people wanting to discuss in good faith.

[@bgryderclock]

lol I hand drilled my own holes, but I was smart enough to try several practice holes on a old cracked ride

[@JDavidBrown]

I found that I prefer the sound of cymbals with a nylon tip, vs a wood tip. Might make an interesting segment for a future video. Cheers. PS: I found this out over five decades ago! 😎

[@sammcdouall4849]

I've been using only Vic Firth nylons for 25 years on my Paiste 2002's but recently I've been occasionally using Vater sugar maple wood tip sticks for a darker quieter sound

[@JFKDrummer]

Ginger Baker used rivets in a ride cymbal, playing in Cream!😀

[@norbertrenner9364]

What kind of drum stick is this....what kind of tip shape in particular ?

[@BlueGamesInc]

Looks like the ProMark Carter McLean stick with a custom widdled-like tip

[@spyowns]

Check out Bopworks sticks if you're looking for a light weight stick that won't overdrive the ride. Something different.

[@miyahollands6136]

my ride cymbal (20in medium weight Paiste), has no problem with sustaining a note - getting it to stop is my problem! Overtones just bleed into the next note, and it sounds a complete mess to me. yes I know, throw it into the mix, with guitars and everything else and the audience might never hear it. but I do and it drives me nuts. a few tips to shorten it would be very appreciated

[@ruffryder13]

Enough rivets will choke it out, if that's what you want. I'd add one rivet at a time though until you get the sounds you want since I don't like extra holes in my cymbals.

[@miyahollands6136]

@ruffryder13 Thank you for that - now I need to find a way to drill some holes! I also like the idea of adding some sizzle to my lower hats, and splash, so plenty of drilling ahead....! 🤷‍♀️

[@lineriderexpert]

What's that hihat clamp you have called? Am I mistaken thinking there is a spring on the top part which compresses when the hats are clamped?

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

That's the Remo Quick Lock clutch and yes, there's a spring.

[@lineriderexpert]

@SoundsLikeADrum Yo, thanks!