Sour Grapes and Copping Out. This is How You Know...

From Jocko Underground 103
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Flipping over the Chess Board. Sour Grapes.
Finishing what you started when you're so close to the goal.
Keeping a secret for your boss about spying on your colleagues.
Coworker still rubbing me the wrong way even after I took extreme ownership.
Where does Jocko stand on Alcohol now days?
Where does motivation come from?
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[@floridaman6982]

Theres a point where somethings aren’t worth the effort, decide what you want to do and focus hard on it. No shame in trying something, seeing its not for you and moving on. As long as you aren’t disrespectful and flipping the board as you say

[@jesus85ize]

There is a difference between quitting, and just giving up some thing that’s not working and adjusting. Too many people give up when they run into obstacles or if what they are doing doesn’t give out instant gratification. Therefore, since the gratification is an instant, their impatience causes them to quit. They find themselves searching getting into projects, getting into deals, trying to chase that gratification, but since they have no patience, they quit. Or they surround themselves by people who quit or naysayers who have never accomplished what they are trying to do and give them advice that “ maybe they should just give up and do something else”. usually usually when people fail at something or quit something they were only

[@MrSERGEANT100]

​@@jesus85ize Yeah, I'm at that point with my job and possibly my industry/career. I'm dealing with both. ...and I might quietly flip the board by just grabbing my stuff and leaving the gear when everyone else went home.

[@MrSERGEANT100]

​@@jesus85ize Me and couple others... we're trying man, but our current environment or the people around us, seem to have convinced themselves that only our group can do anything, and it just piles on more... I personally think my abrupt departure would definitely get their attention. Not that I care at the point, but certain people will learn something.

[@bradwildin5209]

You obviously dont know whats going on with Jocko. He is a fraud. Do some research on channel Green Beret Chronicles ​@@MrSERGEANT100

[@RubyJewel773]

Except these days people decide a lot of things are not worth it before they ever give a serious effort. It gets too difficult too early and then they just say “oh it’s not for me Lol” or “I’m not playing this game” .People rarely decide something is not for them when it’s easy and they can get good at it quickly.

[@harryv6752]

I recently had to walk away from people in my life, family and friends, who were always like that, "Oh, this is stupid," or, "That's dumb and I don't need to do it," or, "I don't need to do that because I already know," etc, etc, etc. I call them Negative Nancies. And it just came to the point that I don't need Negative Nancies in my life. Keep on rockin'! 🤘

[@TheBriarWolf]

Just be careful you don’t drop the truth in the “negative Nancy” stack simply because it is negative.

[@conrad2nr]

I grew up hearing a different version of the fox and the sour grapes. The fox realising that he could not steal the grapes from the bird called out to the bird and said he didn’t want them anyways, they were sour. The bird blessed with altitude and having savoured the precious grapes for himself retorted that they were in fact not sour. “To prove it to you I’ll throw down a bunch”. In the end the fox through his cunningness was able to get the highly sought after grapes.

[@mitchellcox2167]

I swear everytime I’m feeling a type of way. Jocko puts out a video on how to crush my problems and gives me new confidence

[@based_circuit]

Haven’t tuned into this channel in a while. Crazy seeing it finally in color!

[@gheorghevasile1412]

bro , us romanians use the same example "those grapes are sour" when someone is bitching about something like that

[@Mr_Clean]

Vinde gogosi

[@paintballer13377]

The thing is all these private contractors like blackwater had same stories all at same time

[@SourdoughVideo]

Im glad I realized this in myself a couple years ago. I used to tell myself I never wanted to be a manager and that it just seemed like a trap, but under it all I’ve wanted to lead for a while now. I just got asked if I would be interested in a management position at my plant and had i maintained my desire to stay comfortable I wouldn’t have said yes. We will see where it goes, but when people say that opportunities will come in an instant and leave just as quick, this is the type of thing they are referring to. I almost hesitated, don’t let your hesitation get the better of you.

[@Jaylen.D.Symonds]

I was planning on skipping an off-season wrestling practice but I spent 20 minutes clearing my mind and saying I would go. Discipline and when you need it motivation help move your life forward!

[@lwelk273]

You know you are on the right path when you are uncomfortable

[@BransonGomezOfficial]

“Bro you better just check” 😭 5:27

[@TEM1]

14 years of your life. Your family. Your friends. Your business. Your reputation. Your sanity.

[@TEM1]

For lies

[@waltherwagner9711]

What?

[@DAYMENEA]

4:37 am around here 🔥

[@time2maked0hnutz54]

Hilarious! I saw your Comment & Looked at the Clock & it's the time I See it in the A.M. We Need to Play the Lottery 🤣 Cheers💯🤙🏽

[@vegeta420z6]

Y'all are from the future its only 3:48 AM here.

[@30yearoldgrom]

CHECK! Solid reminder at 8.20. There's a big difference between quitting or flipping the chess board and actually changing direction.

[@deadarmd]

One thing is for sure i learned from my father. You always take with a grain of salt those who have an obvious axe to grind, especially when it comes to rumor

[@PS-en7wn]

I like that fox analogy. Good chat.

[@lkae4]

Human are mostly irrational and highly emotional. This makes me want to quit humans but that's not gonna work because I can't move a a couch by myself and the right woman is still beautiful and loyal despite her emotions. The right woman knows she is emotional and will lean on you.

[@farajabdellatif9483]

I've learned in my personal experience, you have to create momentum and start small. Whether its health, wealth, etc. Sometimes we set our expectations too high and say "why bother" when we dont see immediate results

[@BelMarduksBizarreBazaar]

which is how people get hurt in weight training as an example

[@farajabdellatif9483]

@@BelMarduksBizarreBazaar Perfect example

[@DriveByShouting]

We are all capable of making mistakes. Part of the human condition. I learned the hard way that of all the difficult and seemingly impossible things I’ve accomplished in my life, the hardest thing I’ve EVER done was the day I had to take ownership of my mistakes. It changed my life for the better, forever.

[@MrSERGEANT100]

Yep, on the line for making one. Just ready to bail out on a job without another lined up. Sick of the burnout and bulls__t. Sick of the worthless gobs other s__ts hired. Sick of being the go to guy to fix other duck-ups. "But thats job secu- *Smacks with a wrench*" Don't care.

[@MrSears_1.618]

Very important fable. City folks often do not know how clever an actual fox can be, in it's limited way.

[@darenross4187]

Hillbilly transplant here, can confirm. People call deer dumb here. I say: “No, they just can’t understand what a car or pavement is, and they never needed to until recently. But I bet they’d last a lot longer than you if the grocery stores disappeared. Now who’s dumb?” Judging fish on their ability to climb a tree and whatnot.

[@daniebeth]

I enjoyed this and was going to listen to full episode but the description says it’s number 103 from two years ago , underground wasn’t even a thing then so …. Was this released today or not?

[@michaelpetrus19]

Eat clean 24/7 and keep doing a lot............... 💪💪💪🙂

[@b.c.731]

Step one. Dont make everything a big thing. every little thing is not a get out the board situation in the first place. Relize when to stay and put time in. Dont let little things become anything. It is what it is. Nothing more.

[@gulamalakbarli6547]

here in Azerbaijan we say "when the cat cant reach the meat, it says the meat stinks"

[@adammotter]

The Artisan brushes are apparently, according to former GW painters, private label Kolinsky 7 brushes

[@jeremykoehn1]

What's a purple belt in chess! 😂Jocko is so flipping hilarious!

[@joshbutler1249]

These PIANO OUTROS CREEP THE SHIT OUTTA ME!!!!

[@saikimayu]

I was literally writing a comment saying that flipping the board is acceptable if you do it from a winning position, then it got to the part where Jocko pretty much said that lol. Excellent video though. I'm a notorious board flipper. I think tend to put in enough work to justify it, but while listening to this I started realizing there were probably some cop-out situations that I tricked myself into thinking were legitimate. It's not always easy to tell the difference even in yourself.

[@padraigallen5284]

Tito ortiz would love this video with the mention of sour grapes and chest

[@adrianr909]

JOCKO IS GOING OFF!!!!!!!!

[@garywhite3209]

Great advice. Thats onr of my biggest failures was not playing the game. I have paid many of prices for it. This is some advice i wish someone had told me decades ago. I need to get this through to my kids asap, my son is 18 going off to big college next year, n hes too much like me im that aspevt that he doesnt play the game

[@BelMarduksBizarreBazaar]

learning that some prizes aren't worth the cost is another solid lesson. Time andrisk management.

[@mattburnett4185]

Hard to know whether to give up or press on, Say you play basketball but you never got to 6 feet high, And you got bad coordination, cardio, knee

[@benyoungblood9143]

Dude just go on the green berets pod cast and talk it out own it

[@Asianconda]

He's afraid. He's making excuses and just trying to play it off. He knows he'll lose. Just blabbing

[@alexdenton9176]

Jocko: this might be sound wisdom, but for one important distinction. There's a massive difference between HARD and STUPID, with stupid meaning POINTLESS. Eating clean and training is hard, but it isn't ever stupid or pointless, because the benefits are immediate, tangible and long-lasting. School is utterly pointless for a lot of people who don't fit into its one-size-fits-all spirit-breaking rote-learning rubric, where they are treated like criminals for refusing to accept what is essentially a prison system and conditioning camp for children, whose rules are arbitrary and rewards are dubious. A lot of people's time and productive thought is also wasted by caring about stupid shit like keeping up with the Joneses and the imputed 'need' to do this that or the other, instead of focusing on what truly matters to the exclusion of everything else. In my case, I've spent the last year writing two fantasy novels, the first one 216k words, the second 250k words, all the while eating nothing but clean food every day and training hard, with no vices. My living arrangement is such that I don't have to think about work, money, or have any responsibilities beyond my own personal upkeep, and that's what it took for me to zero-in on my goal, which you'd better believe was hard. It's hard to sit in front of a PC every single day of the year, weaving a tapestry of ideas, characters and events out of nothing, pull it all together and then do it again in a bigger and better form. My point is that if I had to think about all this stupid stuff that didn't matter, I wouldn't have been able to focus as hard as I did. Check your survivorship bias, not everyone has the limitless energy and stress-tolerance of a USNS super-soldier.

[@inplainview1]

That word count is crazy. Good on you. Also, well stated.

[@alexdenton9176]

@@inplainview1 Thanks! It took me 38 years to get to the point where I could express myself properly, so you could say I'm making up for lost time. I'm literally just about to start the last chapter of book two, then finish with a small epilogue. After that, I'm taking a much needed break to edit the first one and push it out there for publication.

[@charliebosch3]

Great Wisdom You guys put out.Jesus Loves You

[@m4dbr3w77]

1200 is white belt that went to BJJ for one year. Purple would be smth like 1900 Elo in chess.

[@jesus85ize]

Same thing in real estate world. When I first started before I made my first million, I almost reached destitute. I wouldn’t advise anyone to take the path I did, which was quit my job for real estate when I should’ve worked that job while I was doing real estate. However, long story short I made it and now I have three businesses and set for life. As I was going through this journey, I noticed many people hopped on the bandwagon and just gave up when there was no, return on their investment. I noticed just wanted to make things happen for them and when that didn’t happen, they kind of threw in the towel and went to go do something else. I kept on doing it and now those people are coming back trying to get close, it’s just not happening. The reason being is, I don’t do business with people who quit, these people are the same that made me want to quit almost and, I almost did. It was pretty funny because three weeks after I started feeling like “this is never going to work“ I landed my first deal $75,000. It took patience and skill and not taking no for an answer

[@andyb4678]

I've basically quit everything in the past 3 years. Musical instrument, trying to get a better job, working out, taking meds....

[@claytonjohn6473]

Wihout any reserve, based on your desire to hear the stories and pass the stories along, any notion that you run from the story is outrageous.

[@jeremybrimmer1990]

There you go then

[@maxdavies5776]

Played chess once. Lost. Researched. There's 492 moves U have to memorise. Same as a Rubix.

[@derekjorden3845]

Jocko 2024 !!!

[@masonfrancis7221]

I’ve been guilty of flipping a few chess boards. I’m going to try to improve.

[@jamajnasoares5702]

CHESS IS ALL 👺 GOOD morning

[@DAYMENEA]

gogogo

[@Blake4625kHz]

There was a board game called leverage that me and my best friend were playing when kids. I got tired of his bs and I flipped it 😂

[@nicholasberris6246]

plan 3 moves ahead in chess ! life is planned 3 moves ahead as well!

[@Theshaman12]

The kids theses days are calling this phenomenon “cope”

[@stoiccrane4259]

Chess is a fantastic game casually but there comes a point of diminishing returns for it. A Grandmaster said something to the effect that a "A man who is competent at chess is a gentleman. A man who's mastered chess has wasted their life." I paraphrase but if this the sentiment from someone legitimately adept at chess who are any of us to go against that insight?

[@Mr.Zanderson]

Tito Ortiz had a saying about grapes as well…

[@paulrusinko666]

Always alot of "sour grape" people in the comments..😂

[@mrbigw100]

Day 56 of jocko let’s get John Stryker Meyer on Joe Rogans podcast before he’s gone he wants to go on

[@jkrofling9524]

I quit supporting the systems which are optimized to exploit me, et al. Money is a HELL of a DRUG. It takes a great deal of discipline to resist.

[@BryanWiedeman]

The Stench of LIes

[@Bjorn_R]

Im just thinking out loud here. But Joe Rogan made the point that just because something is hard to get, doesnt mean it actually has value. Would have appreciated a little more talk about identifying dismissal and things that are actually problematic. I had a similar discussion with my brother and I might have been in the "sour grapes" mindset, but his reply was that I had to play game or I would lose. I cant help but think this is the kinda thinking that leads to us doing stupid shit everyone knows is stupid, but just accept because its part of "the game"...

[@bastardofthesun331]

Being a good person is a game you should try and see what happens.

[@PresidentElectA-Abrams]

@ 2:41 what was that? was that your inner aunt Jimiamah ? everyone has an inner inner aunt Jimiamah

[@harleylover4968]

Say what? There ain't never been no Aunt Jimiamah.😂 Too bad she's not still on the syrup bottles & boxes of pancake mix. You'd find out it was Aunt Jemima. Care about your spelling. It might be tedious, but it makes you appear smarter when you know how to spell. I'm just saying.

[@PresidentElectA-Abrams]

@@harleylover4968 ayo fam fam wachu tryin2saytho? kuz that shit make az much sens as a crocodile doctor 🤤 ayo fo reel BLEP BLEP BLEP!!! 😶‍🌫👉👆💥💫💫

[@TEM1]

Who sent Felix Dwaine Moore into my life?

[@lawofliberty3517]

PLEASE PIN- If we experience any grid failures this weekend, just realize it isnt an attack of man, but of the sun. There are 6 decently powerful CMEs coming in this weekend. Coupled with the weakening magnetic field of our planet, these CMEs ARE going to cause disruptions in our systems. Love yall❤

[@mahabone1134]

Can someone tell me where to hear Marcus except Joe

[@elpanchosancho2]

I wonder what Eric demming has to say about this

[@ericdeming7748]

Well since you asked.......I love playing chess and taught my kids at a young age. I've never flipped a board of any game I've played. I've never lost a person in combat under my leadership/authority. I will never make a dollar off the blood of my fallen Brothers ( LLT True B ) I have never quit and every grape that I wanted I got. Let's see how long this comment stays up

[@Bjorn_R]

7:56 I just watched a video with a video game streamer who has managed to get into the top 0.5% of chess in less than two years out of pure spite, because he lost to his brother 😂

[@seller559]

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[@kevinclayton2246]

Check

[@Robbya10]

Is your dismiss a missed diss

[@jamajnasoares5702]

1200 IS HOW YOU START, ITS FREAKING WHITE BELT ECHO CHARLES STOP REPEATING THAT

[@floridaman6982]

1200 is not white belt, you can go backwards. They just start you there because its elo, there are no belts! A brand new chess player with no background knowledge, guidance or experience will be between 100-800.

[@jamajnasoares5702]

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[@jamajnasoares5702]

@@floridaman6982 Dude Im 1600 in OFFICIAL rating, B Class, total intermediate level. Get out online world, and go to the real one If you're on 1200 and go backwards - because you can LOSE einstein, dont say? - guess what, you didn't pass any exams and you're still a FREAKING WHITE BELT. GO - STUDY AND - GET SOME.

[@TheNavalAviator]

Today guys cop outta dating & it's super tragic, especially in the long run.

[@salahmarzouk9637]

Heavy Deadlifts are not worth it i think

[@JurassicJolts]

I agree with all of this… except the foot locks lol f the foot locks

[@UniversalCivilianStrategies]

Ahhh , the "Let it go" agenda .

[@elpanchosancho2]

Jacko acts like nothing happened. Scraping all the gold off the Trident Talks about challenges... I challenge jacko to interview Eric demming and the marines who exposed him ..

[@Asianconda]

He's too scared. He's making excuses and trying to play it off and just blabbing. Not actually confronting the accusations. He knows he'll lose. He just tries to talk good so that all his followers believe that he's the good guy. He won't talk bad because he's brainwashed his followers

[@elpanchosancho2]

@@Asianconda all these scam ass dudes. Like Mike Glover breaking his lady's wrist and getting arrested

[@alexander1902]

@@AsiancondaI love how in even lightly denying everything he is still self aggrandizing. Narcissistic psychopathy at its best.

[@element19961]

I liked the fox and the grapes. I never heard of sour grapes before.

[@TEM1]

Being held accountable, financially… for targeting Americans for organized crime

[@friesNcoke]

You all need to know that none of this applies to me.

[@stevengoltra2362]

Common brain virus mentality of a student: “what do I need to know that for?”. The point is it’s not going to be apparent why or when that information or skill will be useful until it is. Use your brain, increase your breadth of knowledge, and stop squandering time during class.

[@alexdenton9176]

Ah yes, all that valuable algebra I was forced to sit through, still waiting on that to be relevant 25 years later as a writer. Premium cope for having your time wasted by a brainwashing institute.

[@KyloB]

True, that was so much more valuable than learning idk, how to pay rent? Proper first aid? Apply for a job? Taxes? The dangers of student loans and credit debt? After age 16 schools should be teaching these things to prepare you to be an adult. I sure loved learning about some poet or historic literature instead of how insurances work, or how to fix basic problems with a car, proper nutrition and diet - actual functional things you need to know when you're starting to get I to early adulthood.

[@nevermind4679]

Agreed. The question is never whether the thing itself will be directly put to use; like, quick! Solve this equation to save your life! Practical skills are things people (used to, at least) learn at home or outside of school. School is for broadening the scope; exposing you to things you don't get the chance to interact with in everyday life. It then becomes a question of not whether you can do this or that or know this or that, but how well you can do it or understand it. People love to put math down, for example, but the more math you learn the less likely you are to get scammed later on when it comes to doing practical things like buying a home or car, investing, take out a credit card, etc. Literature and art help grow empathy and broaden the human experience beyond the walls of our own craniums. It helps to be able to relate to people who aren't like you/like most the people you already know, depending on your path. Not everything one learns in class is going to resonate with everyone all the time, and it shouldn't. That's not the point. It does suck that everyone is held to a standard and forced to perform well at something that doesn't resonate with them, though, but the winner uses that to know themselves better instead of blowing the subject off as stupid or unnecessary.

[@thundergrace]

i hate the expression #copout....its alos refers to a real cop being out...the "cop is out "get it? ..

[@wilander1]

1200 chess rating is nowhere near solid lol

[@JJones-cl4dm]

Idk man if Lone Survivor went down like it did in the movie those men were fast as hell and they had to be. They showed no cowardice whatsoever by running and moving fast

[@Asianconda]

Jocko is scared. Thats why he's making excuses and just blabbing away. So don't dismiss what Eric has said. It's too challenging for Jocko to have a face to face conversation. I hope other navy seals will come out and expose the truth. This will be the most difficult thing they will ever have to do. War is easier for them.

[@xkj-286-86ho]

🪬shill carlos’ boss & his commie crew; Sour Grapes🍇🍇🍇🍐

[@thehardieway]

If you want to know if something is a waste of time, get really good at it? Thats flawed logic Jocko. We all have a finite amount of time in this life. You obviously should see the value in persuing something before dedicating an enormous amount of time to mastering that thing. This is basic logic.

[@doodahman2995]

Jocko is a pos. Deleting comments from Marines

[@user-fm1kd6mi8n]

You have proof?

[@stephenpalyo5806]

You and Chris Kyle both wanted to be in the spotlight instead of being quiet like the rest of the seals and your both liars. What a shame....

[@andrewminnich5106]

Has echo been deleting comments again?