Duty and Dishonor: The Marine's Revelation of Task Unit Bruiser

[@rdykes4]

anyone who says you both are just disgruntled Vets, is either brainwashed or has a bad moral compass as well. Thank you both for speaking truth and uncovering corruption. Semper Fi

[@Gangsta1168]

War is a Racket.. 💵💵💯💯

[@Gangsta1168]

@@johnnyfamous so much for home of the brave and land of the free.. 😂😂😂

[@Gangsta1168]

@@johnnyfamous your moma said she didn't know who's your daddy.. 😂😂😂

[@ThanksforcensoringmeYoutube]

@@Gangsta1168 apparently these people have never heard of Smedley Butler. Not a surprise, but definitely a shame.

[@ThanksforcensoringmeYoutube]

@@johnnyfamous sounds like you just care too much about a YT comment, g. God bless!

[@Grizzly39]

I was a PSG with an Army Battalion in Ramadi 2006-2007. We worked with a SEAL team, conducting missions together. We got ambushed by bad guys and the SEALs bounced. They took off when my Platoon was out in the city under fire. We fought our way out with Specter, and thank hod we didn’t lose anyone that night. I was not impressed with the Seals.

[@MMMMM-v5m]

Makes things much more dangerous for other Marines and US personnel.

[@MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx]

"bad guys" You Were Attacked By Other american Soldiers? 😂😂😂

[@sl9673]

What is a specter?

[@Grizzly39]

@@sl9673 AC130 Gun Ship

[@arym1108]

@@sl9673 think cargo plane with a howitzer a mini gun and an almost howitzer. its like the most american form of CAS thats NOT called a10 warthog

[@lifeabovetreeline]

They need to have Jocko on or Jocko have them on. If one party declines we know the truth. If they both agree we can finally hear the truth. But Jocko deleting comments is sus

[@heatherbuchanan5001]

Jocko recently addressed these accusations.

[@lifeabovetreeline]

@@heatherbuchanan5001 I’m well aware. But the above statement still rings true

[@raymoncism]

@@heatherbuchanan5001Not very well though. And he’s deleting comments left and right

[@scguy7442]

@@heatherbuchanan5001to be clear, Jocko didn’t address THESE allegations, he addressed a previous podcast put out by GB Chronicles on the same topic. This podcast came out after Jocko’s initial reply.

[@archiij1707]

Angry podcast offered & so did Jay and Eric deming.

[@zeck8541]

The Naval Special Bookfare community isn’t going to like this.

[@michaelr5606]

😂

[@ericm425]

Nope but a lot of the SEALs aren't a fan of the for profit book writing & podcasts. Most don't love the fame chasers

[@zeck8541]

@@ericm425 and a lot of Muslims don’t like vest bombers but they don’t say anything about it to stop it. Just saying.

[@UltFemWarrior]

Maybe cause they don't know how to do it themselves, more than sure its jealously to some extent ​@@ericm425

[@Cat0840]

Become a Seal serve for one year, then write a book or get a movie deal.

[@CALpopOG]

As an 0331 and fellow AMGLC graduate that deployed to Al-Anbar in 2007. I have heard similar stories to this for years. I appreciate you giving these men a platform.

[@christopherdooley9893]

What's AMGLC?

[@Mary-dc6js]

I think that's the acronym for the advanced machine gun leaders course. I went to Infantry Assaultman leaders course. Every infantry MOS has an advanced leadership course run out of SOI east or west, they're great schools that teach you a lot, can't remember it's been years and I didn't stay in but I think you have to have that to grt staff sergeant or at the least helps you. Non infantry usually go to corporal and/or sergeants couese

[@awmerriam4]

​@Mary-dc6js you are correct

[@spojce9]

thanks for your corroboration via hearsay in an anonymous post

[@JuiceOg0311]

@@Mary-dc6jsWhat was your MOS?

[@gravfielddrive]

Sounds more like task force "Pigeon". They flew in, knocked over the chess pieces, shit all over the battle space, strutted around like they won, then flew away.

[@fredred5037]

And got rich off telling that story

[@voodooviking1230]

Silver Star AWARDED FOR ACTIONS DURING Global War on Terror Service: Navy GENERAL ORDERS: CITATION: The President of the United States of America takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star to Lieutenant John Willink, United States Navy, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action against the enemy while serving as Commander, Task Unit-RAMADI assigned to Naval Special Warfare Task Group-ARABIAN PENINSULA, in direct support of Operation IRAQI FREEDOM from 7 April to 21 October 2006. Lieutenant Willink demonstrated exceptional leadership, operational vision, and courage under fire in the battle for Ramadi. He conceived and executed a brilliant plan aligning SEALs with American and Iraqi Army units to train and combat advise them, taking the fight to the enemy in their historical safe havens. Lieutenant Willink spearheaded battalion-sized missions, leading his forces in a high intensity and bloody urban warfare, to emplace six combat outposts in Ramadi, in a highly successful clear and hold campaign. His unit conducted more than 200 sniper overwatch, raids, and clearance operations to account for more than 200 enemies eliminated and more than 200 captured. Additionally, he aggressively expanded the human intelligence network in Western Iraq and employed civil affairs to gain cooperation from the local tribes in building the Iraqi Police Force and taking back Ramadi from the insurgents. By his bold leadership, courageous actions, and total dedication to duty, Lieutenant Willink reflected great credit upon himself and upheld the highest traditions to the United States Naval Service. Funny thing is, Eric Deming has no citations.

[@voodooviking1230]

Silver Star AWARDED FOR ACTIONS DURING Global War on Terror Service: Navy GENERAL ORDERS: CITATION: The President of the United States of America takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star to Lieutenant John Willink, United States Navy, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action against the enemy while serving as Commander, Task Unit-RAMADI assigned to Naval Special Warfare Task Group-ARABIAN PENINSULA, in direct support of Operation IRAQI FREEDOM from 7 April to 21 October 2006. Lieutenant Willink demonstrated exceptional leadership, operational vision, and courage under fire in the battle for Ramadi. He conceived and executed a brilliant plan aligning SEALs with American and Iraqi Army units to train and combat advise them, taking the fight to the enemy in their historical safe havens. Lieutenant Willink spearheaded battalion-sized missions, leading his forces in a high intensity and bloody urban warfare, to emplace six combat outposts in Ramadi, in a highly successful clear and hold campaign. His unit conducted more than 200 sniper overwatch, raids, and clearance operations to account for more than 200 enemies eliminated and more than 200 captured. Additionally, he aggressively expanded the human intelligence network in Western Iraq and employed civil affairs to gain cooperation from the local tribes in building the Iraqi Police Force and taking back Ramadi from the insurgents. By his bold leadership, courageous actions, and total dedication to duty, Lieutenant Willink reflected great credit upon himself and upheld the highest traditions to the United States Naval Service.

[@pfclumi]

Lmao omg that was gold.

[@Dominic-ul9xw]

😂😂😂😂

[@michimchmich]

As a foreigner I am amazed at the integrity and professionalism of the men speaking up. They are the difference between the US and the other armies.

[@MikeyMike-fb5hx]

The SEALS treated non-SEALS like crap! Period! They were very overrated! In it for the wrong reasons... Part of their culture.

[@JackDerr]

Reminds me of life. The good guys get no recognition, but the bad ones do

[@raulsanches3619]

Remember when all the shitbags sat in the FOB cuz they couldn't be trusted meanwhile the rest of us went outside the wire to get blown up and shot

[@frenchonion4595]

Because the good guys don't brag about it nor want too

[@raulsanches3619]

@@frenchonion4595 back in the day we left all the shit bags in the FOB because nobody trusted them in combat. The best of us went out all the time

[@stayhungry1503]

@@frenchonion4595 they also rarely get laid

[@MikeyMike-fb5hx]

The SEALS murdered people over there. Flat out shot people who had nothing to do with the fight.

[@N3wbMa5t3r]

Medal of Honor recipient (Posthumously awarded)John A. Chapman is a shining example of this… He was an AF CCT that was attached to a SEAL team. He took out several enemy combatants and was left to die by the SEALs who Exfil’d and left him to die. He fought by himself for over an hour and called in air strikes danger close (and on himself) to take the insurgents out. It is the only recorded MoH action and you can watch it on KZbin… You can also get his book, it’s heartbreaking that they left him to die and ran with their flippers tucked between their legs.

[@patricktinneny6469]

Never leave a man behind. Wellllll

[@SoldierDrew]

​@@patricktinneny6469... that's an Army Infantry and Army Ranger motto. Never leave a man behind. SEAL teams don't have that motto.

[@don8659]

SEALs were too busy trying to get back home safely so they could get some medals and another book deal.

[@zanefields9587]

Army Cav is like that too!​@@SoldierDrew

[@dfhutton]

You're right about him getting abandoned, but my understanding is the SEAL's called in the air strikes on top of Chapman, adding insult to injury, because they assumed he was dead. So they abandoned him, and then called in bombs on top of him.

[@DerBeatle7]

I’m an old Marine, but more importantly in this context, I’m the father of an 0311 infantry Marine who served in Ramadi. If there were operators killing innocent civilians in order to gain some military credibility and get some medals or ribbons, you have my attention. Did you create unnecessary conflict that resulted in the deaths of multiple Marinies so you could wear some stupid ribbon?! You have no idea the contempt I have for you if that is the case!

[@EckRD]

Your second sentence sums it up across the board during GWOT. But again, post 9/11 was still fresh in people's mind esp the troops. You know, the 03s, 11Bs, and the high speed low drag SF operators wanted to spread that fear and hate against the Iraqi or Afghani. Not all, but a few. Can you blame them? Boot camp, SOI, and in the fleet we were instilled and sang cadence about what we do to our enemy( young or old). Y'all need to accept reality that there are thousands and thousands of Kyles and Jocko in uniform. They simply run the state of affairs of the military. Don't believe me? Check your fruit salad for a Iraq campaign ribbon or Afghan ribbon or both. One team, one fight. Y'all were part of history. 🤷🏽‍♂️ -Marine Infantryman 0311 OEF Vet. 3/2 India Co and Weapons Co( CAAT )

[@tonyslaughter4285]

My condolences. This bruiser squad is probably the reason for the surge in 2007.

[@flyingirish31]

@@tonyslaughter4285the reason for the surge was the failure of Operation Together Forward in mid 2006. We would go out and conduct civil military operations with the support of maneuver elements during the day and then go back to our FOBs in the evenings and AIF/JAM/SCIRI-BADR would rule the night, brutally, depending which area of the AO. Casey was concerned with limiting casualties at that point and showing off reconstruction dollars we were spending. Most of which were being wasted due to improper planning and implementation. Patreaus changed that, increased targeted assassinations of AIF leaders, put a better system together to administer CERP dollars for reconstruction and CMO, and established the JSS system that put our troops out in sector 24/7.

[@davidschaadt3460]

Agreed 🙏🪖🙏

[@Jewjitsu_]

@@tonyslaughter4285absurd comment… you don’t even know what you don’t know.

[@lt.petemaverickmitchell7113]

40:15 Those Punisher skulls on the gear not helping the cause with the population is about the same as a lot of these police departments trying to get the support of communities going around dressed up in a costume looking like they’re the ones getting ready to get dropped into Ramadi. Think about it.

[@marcusaurelius7039]

Exactly. The war industry has come home to roost.

[@doom8274]

it is, and the irony of the fact that Punisher canonically kills loads of cops

[@kcogz1]

I typed this differently originally. I was in the USMC as an 0311 in a nearby area (Al Anbar province). I won’t type my unit or where I was cause it would be easily figured out. Punisher patches, skulls, etc is and was very normal. Not every unit is the same. And NO we were not committing war crimes despite losing many Marines and Corpsman on the deployment. It was something for motivation. Y’all are way over thinking the punisher patch. We aren’t and were not anarchists that hated police or the govt either. Just motivating to dumb 18-22 yr olds trying to make it through a gruesome time in the war.

[@westvirginiaminer3046]

​@@kcogz1you are so right. Yhe fact that they are trying to make a skull out to be some major red flag, shows that they have nothing really to talk about

[@DarthFather_]

I was one of the Americans that believed ever word of American sniper, lone survivor. I wish that shit was true. I wish these guys were these American super soldiers. Unfortunately that’s not the world we live in. Thank you guys for your service and for the truth. I know it’s not easy to do what you’re doing. God bless

[@Scott_Buchanan]

Same here… there was some stuff being said about Chris a decade ago but I kinda ignored it, this is hard to ignore.

[@ExSTPD]

Why are you believing these guys on this pod cast. Some of these guys weren’t even there. And if they were there, why did they wait 20 years to say something. If something was being done illegally they should have spoken and reported it then!

[@LRRPFco52]

We knew out of the gate that Lone Survivor was a pile of trash. There were senior SEALs who called that crap out within a few years of it. The SOCCENT AAR on the whole thing told it how it was as well, but only certain people were privileged to it. It's actually worse than what even the critics have said.

[@LRRPFco52]

​@@ExSTPDMany of us have already known this for 17-19 years. It's just finally coming out to a larger audience.

[@Mr50403]

​@@Scott_BuchananChris Kyle said he killed American Citizens in New Orleans during Katrina. I figured he lied or was a murderer either way I was done with him.

[@jayr3381]

This channel is a breath of fresh air. It's also refreshing to see people in the comments not buying into the SEAL hype.

[@Gangsta1168]

Most of them still don't know they were cheap gangsters for BANKERS and CORPORATIONS.. 💵💵💯💯

[@johnnyfamous]

Were you in the military

[@spoodermens]

It's awesome to see fellow Marines living the corps values of Honor, Courage, and Commitment

[@emmanuelawosusi2365]

Yet marines in fallujah killed hundreds of citizens

[@shredhead4604]

Paratrooper here. Agreed. My brother is 0311 USMC. Much respects to the Corps.💪🇺🇸

[@emmanuelawosusi2365]

@@shredhead4604 nice

[@ExSTPD]

Living the Corps values? Why did he wait 20 years to say something? If he had any Marine Corps value he would have and should have said something then!

[@emmanuelawosusi2365]

@@ExSTPD facts and marines in fallujah killed citizens too

[@trentonpacker3538]

You guys are true American. Thanks for serving with honor. God bless.

[@viggotannhauser7251]

Skulls on the uniform... reminds me of that British sketch about a certain historical military unit: "Have you looked at the symbol on our cap? It's a skull... Hans, are we the baddies?"

[@Hiberno_sperg]

It's made even worse considering that the locals probably had no cultural context for what the Punisher is. To a westerner it's obnoxious but to them it's just evil.

[@toolman9081]

This guy keeps saying "professional" in a war makes me think of the brittish, when they were red coats

[@davidponder1654]

@@toolman9081pretty sure when he says “professional” it means following battlefield etiquette so no friendlies get smoked and keeping your trigger off the bang switch when youre looking at a civilian

[@toolman9081]

@@davidponder1654 there's no rules or etiquette in war.

[@RealFluse]

​@@toolman9081yes there are! ROEs are not guidelines, they are law and if not followed- you will end up in the brig. I dont agree with some of them but to answer your question or statement, there are many "rules" in war.

[@rossomeness3549]

We had the same issues with Seal team 3 on Camp Habbaniyah in 04-05. Kyle bragged about it in his book. Shot an unarmed civilian front of a mosque, the CO of the Tank Company that was assigned to task force 506 witnessed it and pushed up. Kyle skated free and clear of those charges and continued it in Ramadi.

[@mattde6390]

Oh cool, did you go to the JAG for LOAC violations?

[@Vranabg]

@@mattde6390 is jokeos nut sweet or bitter ?

[@mattde6390]

@@Vranabg who?

[@pragmatism8147]

Are you gay? ​@@Vranabg

[@chrishaugh1655]

@@Vranabg ah yes, if you don't believe everything being told to you in your little echo chamber you must be a boot-licker, right?

[@Wellington-nl7vm]

I didn't have any opinions about this matter beforehand, I liked Jocko. But after listening to both him and Eric, and now these Marines, I can truthfully say I believe there really is some real substane in to the criticism of Jocko. Not only that, there's a lot of proven times when SEAL command covered up botched SEAL operations, so the fact that Jocko said "Why would management allow us to do these things" - well, we all know that Navy like to cover up these things.

[@MicahDamger]

True. When I got to sandbox, an old infantry grunt said “if u nerf someone with a shot, make sure u shoot a second shot at the ground”. I said why, he smirked, and said, “that’s the warning shot”. Look, most people tried their best to do the right things. Mistakes happened. Young kids, traumatized and scared for their lives, sometimes made mistakes. Not intentional. And guys covered down for their guys like guys should. But sometimes, bad stuff did happen, by evil people, with bad intentions, and others covered for it. If Jocko did, he would have ample opportunity to hide it. And even if he did a wrongful death investigation, which happened when the ROE were broken, he could have easily written it in a non incriminating fashion. A commander in his assigned battlefield is often judge, jury, and executioner. But in a battle for hearts and minds, like Iraq, one bad actor can have massive implications for others he ms not even know. It turns the people against us, strengthens enemy resolve, and results in more lost lives. When seals are running around like untouchables, accountable to none, and using imagery borrowed from evil comic book characters to intimidate the locals, (which is super f’ing gay btw), there is a butterfly effect. It probably didn’t make the local population feel very safe while Jocko was sprinting around in a spike choke collar with assless chaps and a punisher logo painted on his chest and killing random people so he could go back home and brag about how many souls he ejected from their bodies.

[@robertc3263]

Perfectly said ​@@MicahDamger

[@heathclark318]

Ghost Written books were already ready for them. Having read and listened to things in the last few weeks. Those guys; Jocko, Luttrell, Crenshaw, are absolute POS who you WOULDNT want hanging with your son or dating your daughter.

[@jpennel25]

Not necessarily war related but talking the the coverups in the military. I was on a destroyer. We pulled into a small island off the coast of africa to refuel. While departing we hit the pier and the ship had a hole, above the water line, not very big. This is a very big deal should have been reported. It was inhoused because the captain was going to retire after a 35 year career. Things can be buried.

[@jambo_jackbelly]

@@MicahDamgerwell said brother

[@tomwilson1006]

Katt Williams did say that 2024 is the year that everything will be exposed.

[@SuperVonKiller]

I know, that's weird as hell ain't it. Dude couldn't have been more correct, and it's only May!

[@HunterHayes-rs2yi]

I didn't know Kat Williams was a Navy Seal. That's amazing 👏👏.

[@sapper3504]

its the Jews stupid

[@judahrossrealtor]

#TRUTH

[@Shmack_]

Stop 🤦‍♂️

[@janfalcon2020]

On a side note, Dirty Civilian (a civilian prepper channel) talked about distancing themselves from a seal who talked about how they would use Americans as a resource for supplies in a SHTF scenario. The particular statement was the seal would watch the civilians make their preps, then kill them and take their stuff. That was his survival plan. I can't even imagine trusting someone from a group of people that could foster a mind set like that.

[@brich5314]

Don’t idolize these men. Worry about god, yourself, and your family

[@Phil_Mycock_69]

Exactly! I’ve always been amused and very baffled why people idolise military people like they are heroes. As someone who was in the navy myself believe me most aren’t. There’s a reason why we have to have locks on everything for personal stuff because your fellow serviceman will steal your shit in a heartbeat. The heroes are the ones who didn’t come home; not some desk pusher who did 20 years and takes advantage of clueless civilians idolisation of veterans and the military

[@BlyGuy]

Admire and be inspired, but never idolize

[@kentjerrett2201]

Well as Jocko says in his book, “discipline equals freedom”, “kill your idols.”

[@tabasco-jf7eb]

I idolize Dr. MICHAEL DEBAKEY who safe so many lives , not this dude who got whoop by 🐐 herders with 🩴

[@PARCE93]

You should always aim to be your own man. Too many people live in the shadow of others. Consider yourself lucky to have the veil pulled from your eyes instead of building your entire personality & life based on lies.

[@thomasarchambault9463]

Ryan perfectly explains why the war took 20 years. In the end, it was nothing but a benefit to the military industrial complex and officers who played along moved up.

[@georgemulford2910]

Seriously dark if that is true. But I have always suspected most wars are fought along those lines. The media and government does a good job to make war or soldiering look noble.

[@manhalen7046]

And i bet you were waving that flag the whole time.

[@Chevelle602]

​@@manhalen7046we didn't know better back then

[@tonyslaughter4285]

Smedley Butler spoke about this in war is a racket.

[@thomasarchambault9463]

@@tonyslaughter4285 Yes he did. That is a great point.

[@CrudelyDoctoredPhoto]

Thank you so much for this. Much like the XO in this video, I also sort of withdrew from military communities after my deployments (Afghanistan 2002, Iraq 2003-2004, Afghanistan 2007). I really thought I would just live with these things that bother me, and that it would never see the light of day. I'm very grateful that with your help, that's changing. FWIW, I was an infantry officer in the 82nd Airborne Division. When I was a PL (Afghanistan), my platoon supported US Green Berets, Kiwi Special Forces, Australian Special forces, and we prepared a mission with Danish Special forces (but never executed), and .... Navy Seals. From what I understand, we were very good battalion from a very good division (the 82nd), and we did missions that typically go to Ranger Regiment. Anyway, all of the spec ops we supported incredible to work with. It may have been the highlight of my military career. They were so relaxed and professional at the same time. Unfortunately, the Seals were the exception. While I met some whom I greatly admire -- include at Ranger School, in country they were always too cool for school. They acted like our interactions were a waste of their important time. I saw a negligent discharge from a Mk-19 . . . . after getting off a fucking chinook. This would have been career-ending for any soldier. I have no idea if anything happened with them. And other stuff which I feel weird about sharing. And aside from that, it was just as discussed here, a lack of respect for the forces who own the battlespace and have to live with the local day in and day out.

[@T20-c8f]

Fire! Keep it coming y’all! This is exactly what our country is dying for literally right now. We need truth and accountability. Eric Demming god bless you sir. Sincerely a thankful patriot

[@oscarvalerio3214]

Army Ranger Eric Edstrom wrote an amazing book called “Un-American: a soldier’s reckoning of America’s longest war” and his story lines up with what you guys are discussing here

[@MikeyMike-fb5hx]

10th Marines... Ramadi 05-06 here... They are absolutely right! JOCKO is full of shit!

[@kylebrothers5910]

@GreenBeretChronicles 1st sgt, I am a former marine with 3/8 Lima. I would like the opportunity to talk with you privately about some of the content in this particular video. I was there in Ramadi and like the XO I was with this unit during secure tomorrow all the way into Ramadi. There are quite a few pieces missing from these guys takes. Neither of these Marines are wrong about anything per se but when they started talking about Tomci I think someone from Lima needs to speak up. I request a few minutes of your time.

[@Black-Heart-Actual]

I was in Lima from 98-2003 prior to the invasion of Iraq and wasn't there. I too Joined the Army and was deployed to Anbar with the 101st. I too have worked with SEALS in the past during our deployment to Kosovo and all the training exercises leading up to our MEU. I never got the impression that SEALS were the professional war fighters that they have always been made out to be. Do marines and Army do shit during deployments' that get themselves into trouble, Hell yeah, but not in masses because we were and are professionals when it comes to conducting operations. Its sad that these men are idolized like they are and put on this pedestal. I hope that the truth comes back to bite these men because there were far too many incidents from the Navy SOF community that have never been dealt with because their SEALS.

[@bittnerbs]

Following. I was in 1st Marines. I’m interested to hear your take on the borrowing of the suppressed MP5s. Did it happen?

[@kylebrothers5910]

@@bittnerbs I can say this, Joe Tomci had nothing to do with an mp5. When members of my sister company mention his name, I wish to speak with the owner of this channel to ser it right. I can talk about the mp5 but not before I talk to the 1st sgt first.

[@kylebrothers5910]

@@Black-Heart-Actual I request captains mast to the owner of this channel because one of my friends names is directly mentioned in this video. He deserves more respect because he can't speak for himself from Arlington and the other Marines that speak his name about a situation that were not there is not fair, so thats why I am here.

[@Rudderify]

His email is in the description. I bet if you emailed him with this same comment, he’d reach out to you.

[@mattcubbler]

Once again, thank you Eric Deming, Ryan and Graham for their courage and bravery in speaking out. When I first came out publicly, I thought I was going to do it alone. But Eric came forward and joined me. He legitimized my allegations and has taken the role of leader in this quest. I am eternally thankful for that. Time for more whistleblowers to come forward. Let’s do this!!

[@smithnwesson990]

Still waiting for evidence there Matt. Just more claims. Extraordinary claims. Extraordinary evidence. See no smoking gun other than two disgruntled Marines balming there Marines deaths on Jocko and an Old SEAL looking for notoriety. Hardly evidence.

[@Hughjaoses8766]

Remember this always, Jocko sells a BRAND. Hes a marketer with a SEAL background.

[@Trqize]

Umm... good for him?

[@choncha23]

He always sold a brand. That is why I took his words with a grain of salt. Being a Vet, I know have Officer operate: anything for those bullet points on their evaluation.

[@SunManPoints]

And? So what are you? A cat? Makes sense with your remarks.

[@SunManPoints]

@@choncha23 And what are you selling? Or are you just sitting in your lazy boy with nothing better to do?

[@MortonT1958]

Was he selling his BRAND while he was still deployed, or even while he was on Active Duty? If he has been self-promoting only since retirement, then while it isn't admirable, it isn't criminal either.

[@kevinburchett5878]

Pretty soon Shipley is gonna have a business of verifying former seals who are trying to claim they were just marines or infantry lol

[@emmanuelawosusi2365]

No

[@emmanuelawosusi2365]

Marines killed citizens in fallujah with white phosphorus

[@jerrycrouch427]

Shipley is probably too busy trying to help his son get out of the shit he stepped in

[@joesroads6387]

he responded to another comment in the first video about this. he clearly had no interest in discussing it. only correcting someone who allegedly put words in his mouth. if he wasn't there he doesn't care.

[@emmanuelawosusi2365]

@@jerrycrouch427 what

[@qbeck2166]

From Chris Kyles Hurricane Katrina sniper stories, to the Lone Survivor Movie, where Kris Kyle leads young starstruck Marines, who affectionately referred to him as the living "Legend" while clearing houses with his sniper rifle, to the trapped U.S Army Infantrymen on top of the roof, who he singlehandedly saved at the end of the movie, to knocking out Jesse Ventura, the whole story seems suspect, if not the main parts.

[@chanhowell43]

lone survivor was marcus luttrell not CK

[@voodooviking1230]

I get all those guys, but it’s quite the stretch to claim Jocko is a criminal with no evidence

[@oiuytv]

American sniper movie

[@jansandman6983]

@@voodooviking1230 He may not be directly doing the bad deed, but as I understand it, as the commander of people who are acting like psychopaths, he was advised to leash his dogs back to their cages because deploying those has caused more problems than help simply by randomly killing innocent people. Although Jocko's intentions of ignoring calls for pulling Kyle out were never clear, he is still accountably suspect given his authority over the matter. So based on the fact that we are afforded, he is partly to blame for the deaths of military personnel caused by revenge attacks from people who previously didn't have qualms about US troop presence but has been triggered towards being hostile due to Jocko's inaction.

[@andrewstahl3531]

This guys testimony sounds pretty similar to my experience with SEALs in Afghanistan working for a civil affairs team. We had to answer for the games they played with the civilian populace.

[@johnleverette579]

Thanks!

[@robertg8565]

You can't lend out seralized gear, he's right. With weapons especially because they have to go on the unit's account through Crane. Doing it interservice is illegal, I did the books for my unit. No way a Marine Unit would accept weapons from the Navy.

[@Cobra-ky9bt]

It happens, or happened, anyway. Fallujah '04, another TL in my unit let Marines from 1MARDIV plus up with one of his LMGs, and didn't hand receipt it, and didn't get it back. The shit hit the absolute fan over that one. It was fun to watch, and all I could do was laugh and thank God I wasn't stupid enough to have done it.

[@kwesty1]

Man, I am speechless after listening to these past few episodes. I even watched most of Jocko's just to hear his take. I was a Scout Sniper with 2/7 in the early 90's (No combat for me) and I followed The Chris Kyle story along with that of Jocko and others. Now, I really am questioning everything..One thing I do know is that, I respect these men who are speaking their truth the way they have seen it. I wish them well, they have emotional scars that need healing. SF

[@Noamchomsky1917]

David Goggins has been saying this for years

[@LAwMaker1500]

I was thinking the same thing. He's BEEN say that he gets hate because he talks about SEAL business out loud but what's there to hide......unless they are doing something very wrong.

[@philipdru9290]

Goggins is a friggin real man, he’s his own man. I think he had a high regard for Rangers and certainly Delta as he tried out twice for that unit.

[@karlstrauss2330]

@@philipdru9290Rangers are just as bad as the SEALs IMO, they just never got the opportunity to kill OBL so they got overshadowed over the past few decades

[@leroygreen8629]

Where ? Where has Goggins been saying this?

[@jonsnow1081]

@@karlstrauss2330 Every branch and also SOCOM units have bad apples.

[@jasontakeshita4755]

As you all know whistleblowers face a harsh road of scrutiny,but the truth always prevails. Best wishes and support on this arduous journey!

[@ice-cold4342]

The marines are absolutely right.i was army infantry in that same area and patrolled route Michigan between ramadi and fallujah for a year and only saw 2 dead insurgents.I guess Kyle and jocko were fighting and killing an enemy that was invisible to me

[@dctuss21]

Marine Afghan Vets tell these stories all the time. SEALs commandeering all the resources for a unit, leaving marines with no air support, then just leaving in the middle or right before firefights. Ive never heard from a Marine that was genuinely impressed with any seals, ever.

[@smithnwesson990]

Do Marines ever say they are impressed? No. They place themselves on a pedestal and claim everyone else is doing it wrong. Pot meet Kettle.

[@sonnysantana5454]

they do bounce that red ball on their nose pretty good

[@SoldierDrew]

I was never impressed with any SEAL teams as an Army Airborne -Airassault Light Infantry veteran. I respect them as brothers in arms, respect their expertise as UDT frogmen, but on land I was never impressed with them. I was very impressed with Airforce Combat Controllers much more so than any SEAL team guys or MARSOC guys.

[@teetedm1]

The weakest part of Jocko’s defense podcast was that 90% of it was based on the official record. The whole point behind the whistleblower push is that the official record is wrong. The same thing happened in WWII, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and so on. After reviewing both sides, I will say that the most truthful side has been the whistleblowers. Now, we can all recognize that Iraq in 05/06 was known as the “Wild West,” because ROEs were lax. But that makes the accusations against Jocko even more convincing because they would have to be flagrant violations. More so, there’s a whole-ass book AND movie that overblows who Chris Kyle was and what he did. Final point - Jocko is incredibly successful. Dude makes hundreds of thousands PER SEMINAR. Plus consulting, plus books, plus supplements, plus his MMA gym… what I’m saying is, the dude has lawyers, the fact that this went on for over a month without a cease and desist or lawsuit is pretty telling.

[@seanheaney8303]

​@@ExtraRice365 thats literally impossible because jocko just read of the offical record, claimed brotherhood about 35 times and the rest of the stuff he said has been proven wrong... he largely avoided most angles he didn't want to discuss.

[@DrewThornburg]

The only or best point this guy makes is the punisher symbol on the flack vest but if you were there in 05-06 and I saw every single base from south to north I saw a culture of tagging hummers with symbols and many almost all other gun truck platforms besides mine had something painted on the side we did not … maybe that’s why we had such bad blue on blues but Renegade19 was professional and that’s how we made it 14 months no incidents doing a job that two infantry units came in to takeover and couldn’t relieve us being scared and incapable of carrying out the mission

[@Mrjesse451]

Wait, so you think, like Joko said, that all these Marine commanders were told a Navy Seal unit were committing war crimes and getting their Marines killed and they did nothing????They were just like "Ok thats cool"???? Wtf world do you live in?????

[@TheIvanMilky]

@@ExtraRice365 you should probably also mention the video you are talking about was released before this one and has since done a follow up. He doesn't say a whole lot one way or the other and as someone has already pointed out Jocko literally just hit the same all points he always does, so essentially if you have read his book or ever heard the story before he is just verifying the same account he has given before. I find it interesting you are willing to put so much stock in what Daniel says but fail to even mention Graham who was stationed at the government centre which you should know as a big Jocko fan is heavily featured in a lot of the stories he mentions.

[@ExtraRice365]

@TheIvanMilky i'm still waiting for anyone to bring any actual evidence forward. Until then, I'm gonna go with Jocko's story. One dude saying he worked at the gov center and heard some things 20 years ago.. lol

[@marcusaurelius7039]

Read Matthew Cole's book "Code before Country" about the corruption and coverups within DevGru and the SEAL Teams. So bad that they tried to prevent the Medal of Honor to a fellow warrior Combat Air Controller named John Chapman who sacrificed it all on Robert's Ridge.

[@madmaxc343]

I respect these Marines' perspectives/experience and enjoyed listening to them. However, as far as the specific accusations of war crimes and cover up, at the end of the day it's still hearsay and assumptions (albeit, seemingly pretty reasonable assumptions from their perspective), rather than direct evidence. I have to hand it to Jocko... he knows how to talk. His rebuttal videos sounded pretty eloquent and convincing to a general audience. Unless much more specific testimony of Bruiser SEAL crimes/incompetence and Jocko directly sweeping it under the rug emerges, I don't see any of this affecting Jocko too much at this point. For those of you commenting that Jocko should come onto this channel or have guys like Deming etc on his channel to hash this out, come on!! There's no way in hell he's gonna do that. He is not going to use his platform to give these accusations or the people making them anymore attention than absolutely necessary. Outside of veterans and a niche of people who are interested enough in military and GWOT to follow this shit closely, nobody in the general public is really paying attention to this. And for Jocko's fans, his response was probably more than convincing enough to satisfy them to not look further into it. I'll give Jocko the benefit of the doubt and say that I'm not convinced that he was necessarily intentionally nefarious or a horrible guy. In light of all this, I definitely don't think he was anything close to the great battlefield commander that he makes himself out to be. It seems that he did demonstrate a level of incompetence by not deconflicting battlespace and failing due diligence to manage potentially trigger happy psychos like Chris Kyle. But at the end of the day, it seems to me that Jocko just kinda did what careerist officers tend to do: shine shit and write it up as gold. Make sure X number of ops are planned and executed, let your guys shoot enough to justify and validate what you're doing, write it up nice... and "mission accomplished." Then he got out and marketed himself well. And thanks to the Navy PR machine, the SEAL brand made it all the easier for him. Chris Kyle always seemed like a bad dude to me. At face value, the idea that he was getting that many legit kills compared to other snipers working the same battlefield never made any sense. Some snipers are better than others, sure. But this wasn't Carlos fucking Hathcock mastering the art of stalking and remaining unseen in the jungles. Kyle was manning the same urban sniper posts as all the other Marine/Army/SEAL snipers operating out there at the time. How the hell was he seeing all these legit targets that the others apparently couldn't? Bullshit.

[@dv4119]

That point about Chris Kyle is really interesting and something I never thought about. If you’re right of course, cuz idk shit about these sorts of particularities of the battle space and can’t confirm a KZbin comment. But Chris Kyle was one character I always found shady, esp after reading how he bragged to people about driving to New Orleans after Katrina and sniping dozens of looters on the Superdome. 🙄 And this story “Kyle also claimed to have killed two men at a Dallas-area gas station in January, 2009. He told one writer that the men attempted to rob him at gunpoint, but he drew his own weapon and shot them both in the chest. According to Kyle, the entire incident was on tape, and the police let him go after he gave them a number to call. He also asserted that he often received emails from police officers across the country thanking him for "cleaning up the streets." More than a tad psychologically unbalanced to 1) make up such weird lies, 2) think the lie makes you look good. Either it’s some expression of PTSD that tilted his aggression and valuation of human life, or the dude just has serious power fantasies of murdering “wrongdoers”, and he quenched his desire thru the military. If sniping American citizens for looting is admirable in his eyes, I don’t doubt he could justify killing people overseas in a warzone for just about anything. But part of me is like, well this is a decorated war hero I’m talking about, and there’s no concrete evidence of any wrongdoing, so I usually just keep my opinion to myself. The best case scenario is that you’re wrong, and his targets were justified (or as much as they could have been for any other in the position) and he just was a dude who got found himself at the right place at the right time to make the most of his talent, and happened to like talking shit. Worst case is a lot of innocent people were killed by a glory-seeking SEAL and a movie was made in celebration

[@WestonWaxweiler]

Well said. Some pretty wild accusation all amounting to hearsay.

[@Stinger913]

Well said esp about Kyle. Had no idea he was doing that

[@cumsteak]

@@dv4119Chris genuinely seems like a baby killer

[@MikeyMike-fb5hx]

@@dv4119 Was in Ramadi with 10th Marines at that time. We had to put out a lot of fires by innocent people being killed by SEALs. My impression by the time I left were that The SEALS were a bunch of psychotic murderers.

[@Techgnome21]

Thank you all for your service and integrity!!

[@valhallapersonaldefense]

I'm glad this is coming out. Semper Fidelis.

[@Abefroman-lq3md]

Hey Green Beret, you have my utmost respect. A British Vet. Salutations from Belfast Northern Ireland 🇬🇧

[@REB4444]

Jocko just did a two part rebuttal where he sites (but doesn't show) all the documentation & internal reviews that are done & the process a spec ops team has to do to operate in someone elses' battle space or whenever a SEAL team member has to shoot someone & the investigations to make sure it was a good kill. But all that is fine & dandy but it means nothing because all these documents & internal investigations also gave us the Navy SEALS' stamp of approval on ALL the lies being told about Rodger's Ridge with the stolen valor & botched planning that were covered up & Marcus Luttrell's complete fabrication of what happened at Op Redwings & that cover up. Honestly, I would be more willing to believe these Marines that are risking their reputations, with nothing to gain, to tell the truth instead of a bunch of narcissistic glory hounds that the SEAL community has allowed themselves to become.

[@matrixfan58]

Oh I can show you all the stuff I need to fill out to build an ADU on my land or to file my taxes. Does that mean I actually did any of that? 😉

[@SleepyJoesDiaper]

Well said. A damaged organization for sure. The SEALs have always wanted in on the missions that goto Delta, GB, & Rangers. Little brother syndrome. Once they get their chance, they screwed everything up. The reason Bin Laden was buried at sea is bc Rob O’Neill shot his whole face off after he was already dead. They ruined their reputation.

[@KGSpradleyAuthor]

I don’t know…I’m already suspicious of a senior officer starting out the conversation with “uniforms, discipline, etc.” I had Marines ask me if I stopped to render aid after vehicle mishaps in downtown Ramadi. There is no way I’m hanging out downtown in a gunfight. You have to put it in perspective. At the end of the day I just want AJ Pasciuti to get credit for killing Juba, it was NOT Chris Kyle. I’ll be glad when Lee Decklelman does your show. He can give more info on who I am and what I did if it helps with anything. I’m not calling out individuals publicly but am happy to hold leaders accountable.

[@Newbobdole]

THANK YOU for giving these Marines the opportunity to set the record straight! Civilians might not completely understand how unusual service members airing dirty laundry in public really is

[@rse4379]

Officers are even doing it now days.

[@QueenJerhonda]

They also don’t realize how difficult it is to report alleged crimes that other units may have been involved with.

[@tonyslaughter4285]

@@QueenJerhondausually gets swept under the rug and then they ship you on a shitty assignment.

[@kpal2946]

Who ever is calling you guys disgruntled vets has something to hide imo. Thank you guys for bringing the truth into the light. edit I liked at the end when you got a complement about Army Engineers you had big old grin. Be Proud.

[@832KJV]

Kudos to these three gentlemen for having the guts to speak out - they are completely credible and are gaining nothing from their disclosure. Remembering what Edmund Burke said "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." These good men are doing something.

[@GoFish51]

This is incredible stuff. I applaud you all for telling the truth and shedding light on the narrative of what really happened over there.

[@nobodycares9579]

I am so glad that you take pride in your regiment while also policing the malfeasance to preserve it's sacred nature.

[@johnnyfamous]

Take less mushrooms

[@mattde6390]

lol this beta male never reported anything

[@BullsMahunny]

"That letter was fake and generated by AI" Dude who wrote the letter: "okay, BET"

[@obamavariant9128]

How did he get the dates wrong when his men died?

[@AdminLogistics.]

This guy is a proven bum. Terrible leader, terrible communication, and full of untruths.

[@Thebluesky0311]

@@AdminLogistics. Where is it proven???

[@TheIvanMilky]

@@AdminLogistics. This is the same type of person who will tell you the claims are unsubstantiated and slander 😂

[@dmichael7144]

@@obamavariant9128 he didn’t. He said 36 in total died in Ramadi. Most of them were when the SEALs were there!

[@t.m.nichols4229]

A very enlightening discussion. Graham, especially, is very well spoken and presents himself very well. It is discouraging to hear that people who the American public has been led to believe were real 'heros' and role models were/are anything but. Thank you for bringing this to our attention!

[@davegonzalez5339]

I am impressed how these vets express themselves. Thank you for setting the record straight. Very disappointed in the zeros that supervised this unsupervised group. Thank you for standing up for the truth.

[@Mike-Holiday]

In Australia we have a few SAS soldiers who killed innocent ppl and are facing jail and war crimes.

[@fj949]

The Oliver Schulz debacle is sobering.

[@RodEvan]

How do you know they were innocent? Were you there or my guess another numbskull who believes everything some fuktard reporter says.

[@NPC-fl3gq]

Unarmed combatants (the kind that trigger IED's or shoot or throw a grenade then put their hands up) is a better word for most of those cases. Not saying all of them are like that, but some definitely are - so I'd say unarmed combatant, coz if you are actively involved you're not innocent just because you throw down your gun rather than get in a shootout with the SAS.

[@LilSebastian_]

“That rah rah…always motivated… I’m not buying it.” Shawn Ryan talking about Jocko.

[@matthewpyke5602]

When did he say this

[@LilSebastian_]

@@matthewpyke5602 I don't remember when or who he was interviewing, but he did say it.

[@QueenJerhonda]

Jocko sells an image that a lot of guys know is absolute BS. The whole tough guy who does MMA, lifts weights, and gets up early is cool but when you’ve had multiple shit deployments, that whole act goes out the window.

[@Abefroman-lq3md]

@@QueenJerhondaWell said. He is a complete fraud.

[@kylev8905]

If Demings is wrong. Jocko should release his service record. Lets see the progression of his career AFTER his command of Bruiser. If he did such a great job, he shouldve been given command of a group etc. Or at least he should be groomed to take over a next higher command. If this stuff is fale, Jocko can easily put it to rest by proving these guys liars. I think most people want the truth above all else, even if it tears up their adoration for these guys.

[@tomusmc1993]

It's a reflection point for me, and my own time as a Marine, and having participated in a small part of history, that my own experiences are not reflected in history accurately, but now they are written down and recorded and will propagate into the future. So, I applaud you all for speaking up. My other take away is the irony of your overarching theme of "professionalism prevents atrocities" which is true, but being aware that you all had to deal with it at all in the first place, was a failure of leadership and professionalism at the highest level of government. As the old saying goes... stuff rolls downhill.

[@cumsteak]

I always poop upside down

[@jamesfreda1903]

I was assigned to a Marine recon team in 1969, and after listening to this,I know that Marines were held accountable for their actions. And as in any combat, bad things do happen. As leaders, all after action reports were made under intense scrutiny. I, as a Corpsman, was accountable for my own actions and reports.

[@kellmorr8080]

I swear it seams like the SEALS have more infighting and gossiping than a high school cheerleading team.

[@Matthew-i8k]

Didn't make it but was in buds and it's so bad the gossip . Crazy rumors about the instructors that happened to be true lol

[@awac4577]

I want to thank each of you for your service and sacrifice. I am simply a civilian who has been intrigued by the movies and the books. And that's all I've ever had to go on until now. I'm starting to see a little more clearly, I believe. Whatever the truth is, it will eventually prevail.

[@ericyoungoc]

Listen….. I was Alpha 1/5, and we had the gov center AO in March-Oct 2005. We were operating out of Hurricane Point and doing mounted security patrols/ QRF/ and government center security, on a rotating basis. I did not stay the whole deployment as 1/5 was undermanned and I was short timing. I was there til about mid June. I will attest that Ramadi was a very busy place and especially at the gov center. We were always taking shit there. I stood post at the police station at first, but then moved over to the roof top overlooking the entry control point. At that post, I was in it a couple times a week. At least! One night, we spotted some armed hadjis moving through buildings to our north. We called it in and were about to light them up. Same story…. Our leadership ran it up the chain looking for adjacent units or SOF units…. They came back with the go ahead to shoot if we’ve positively identified them. Which we were certain that we had. They were wearing local attire and moving with ak’s Whatever seal team that was present in that time, skylined themselves and decided it was not a good idea to let anyone know they were going to be in our area moving around in local attire with local weapons. They were a split second away from being killed by us, for it. At the last second, my platoon sergeant stopped us, AFTER giving us the go ahead to shoot. That was my only interaction with the Seals. From afar. Don’t be stupid, talk to the units in the area and let them know you’re there so they can back you rather than shoot at you.

[@Dr.Doorkicker0311]

Holy shit funny seeing you here Young 😂 small world! SF

[@James_Edward59]

That’s the power of Social Media, anyone who was around or involved in any of this can easily hear about it and give their accounts as well. Thank you for your service and the story.

[@kenmatthews7065]

Thank you for the truth and for your service and honest leadership.

[@John-m8o1p]

I am so glad you guys are doing this. I am extremely saddened by the disillusionment and this needs to be covered by investigative journalism

[@user-qt7qc7wm8s]

This Marine is right though. I was an Army infantryman in Iraq from May 2005 to May 2006. After 8 of our Soldiers were kia in two separate attacks, we wrote their names on the outer cloth of our kevlars as a way to honor them before going on missions... But our company 1st Sgt went APE SHIT because of it looking "unprofessional". The Delta and Seal teams we ran across during our deployment were professional and wore mixed desert bdu's without unit any patches. Any personalized patches like "The Punisher" would have been considered inappropriate, atleast within my company. But much respect for their service....

[@theshittybowman]

I hope your brothers continue to rest easy, I bet they were incredible marines. 🤝🫡🇺🇸

[@johannesbauer4490]

​@@theshittybowman Soldiers, not Marines in his case. I'm former Army Infantry as well, and totally agree with his comments.

[@theshittybowman]

@@johannesbauer4490 acknowledged, my apologies my man. 🫡🤝🇺🇸

[@JWins14]

😮😮

[@patriotexx]

Thank you gentlemen so much for doing this, it has been a pretty well known thing for a very long time but mostly scuttlebutt, the truth will set us all free.

[@dougg1075]

It’s an honor to hear these men on the podcast. Wow

[@armyco2]

Powerful stuff. All four individuals speaking out are, in my opinion, credible. Appreciate your service then AND NOW!

[@navagatingthroughthebeasts2908]

Yes i find them credible as well

[@docbryant]

Further validates my decision to not associate myself with the military anymore. I was just a run of the mill, one tour 8404 Corpsman, mind you. The "needs of the Navy" kept me bored and/or behind a desk, which is why I left. And when I see guys like Willink, Kyle, Marcinko, who had careers that were orders of magnitude more significant than mine, mucking things up ... I just don't have the words. Thanks for the podcast. Oorah.

[@SVParadigme20]

Former Canadian Airforce pilot with 2 tours in Afghanistan. I find you guys very inspirational

[@stevensavegnago8689]

I appreciate you guys bringing this to light. Hopefully you can get more guys to come forward. And as far as loaning other units weapons, it will never happen

[@flashbang5075]

Treating a straight leg infantry unit like shit is a bad idea. Who do the operators call when they run into more trouble then they can handle? They call a big army unit with lots of guns to come bail them out!

[@crowshooter223]

I smelled Bullshit on Kyle from the beginning when I first heard about him. After he got caught lying about other things, it just solidified my belief in that assessment. I heard he was reporting his own kills with no confirmation from anyone else needed. I've brought this fact up to VERY few people because of the blind hero worship so many people are engaged in when it comes to him. I also wonder if his nickname "legend" wasn't actually a reverse pun. Kind of how a 300lb guy gets the nickname "tiny". I think a LOT of his fellow SEALS felt he was utterly full of shit, and a psycho, and laid that handle on him as a backhanded way of saying it.

[@crd4243]

Right on. And also « Lone Survivor » (the movie)… an absolutely non sensical story. From my own limited military experience, a tour of sevice as an NCO in the French army during the time of the Bosnian war and terrorism at home, I could sense that Luttrell’s account was absurd. And if that mission did truly unfold the way he described it, then there was something terribly wrong with the leadership and capabilities of that particular unit. In August 2008, a French patrol was ambushed an destroyed in Afghanistan by 100 Talibans. The French took 31 casualties, including 10 KIA, one of whom was killed by an edged weapon during hand to hand fighting. There was no attempt to turn this into a heroic action or to create a false narrative… it was a huge f**k-up by the French army and that’s all there was to be said. Seven families took legal action against the military leadership but to no avail, so there was a cover up of sorts. But nobody wrote a book or made a movie trying to spin the facts… that would have been disgusting and dangerous!

[@patriotexx]

Chris Kyle lied about shooting looters, he lied about killing 2 men in a botched robbery, he lied about punching Jesse Ventura, he self reported many of his kills. Legend was probably actually making fun of him but his IQ was too low or ego too high to realize it or care.

[@aaronmorrison7716]

I agree. I read Chris Kyle’s book. I thought, “how the hell do other snipers not come close to his reported kill account?”

[@doom8274]

@@aaronmorrison7716 somewhere out there is some dude that as a pimple faced 19 year old killed a metric shitload of people in fallujah as a PIG sniper, not even school trained, and he'll never say. but I know him, and he's not writing a book about his "confirmed kills".

[@MattyP3789]

It should have been a major red flag to anyone who paid attention that for almost two decades, in almost every instance, these men were painted as infallible war heroes. That’s just not how human nature, or armed conflict, works.

[@matthewcordeiro2073]

Jockos new operation is called “Operation damage control”

[@bobross5079]

Jacko is a deepstate sex doll

[@ksmith87]

Good, more time to work on public relations

[@WillE454]

Jocko will make a response video in back and white surrounded by yes men that back his side of the story

[@sushinfudoshin8991]

@@WillE454 Already did

[@thediner8929]

Operation Smear Campaign.

[@8551-w5v]

Greetings fellow Warrior. As a Marine Raider I can say the SEAL Platoons I deployed with were 99% all professional fighters. A few were Unsat. As for the Army SF , 100% of the Green Berets I've worked with and known they are all quiet professionals and men of honor, integrity and high moral character. Maybe I was just lucky. It was a honor to serve with these men. 1989-2005.

[@livinroomlongshanks]

MARSOC was stood up by the Corps in 2007 with ARMY SF writing much of their doctrine. So how exactly were you a Raider if you left in 2005?

[@Charles-nc4zj]

Sir, how did Navy SEALs do in landlocked countries despite the Navy not having any infantry background? BTW thanks for your service.

[@livinroomlongshanks]

@@Charles-nc4zj SEALs are the NAVYs waterborne version of Army Rangers (excluding Team 6). While SEALs are tier 2 just like Rangers and they have a solid base of soldiering skills (Land nav/SUT/CQB).

[@WillS-x9y]

@@livinroomlongshanksbro you know next to nothing.

[@bittnerbs]

@@livinroomlongshankswhat? Hahahah. No. Not at all. SEALs are nothing like Rangers. Tell me you know nothing without telling me you know nothing.

[@teambeforeself6839]

Man, your channel must get a lot of hate, so I just want to say, thanks for having the fortitude and honor to bring this out. Jock and Lief are probably multimillionaires at this point, so hope the truth gets out and we can hold people to account and train the next batch of leaders to never sacrifice their honor.

[@seanf9047]

Is it about the truth or the fact they are millionaires

[@manhalen7046]

They started successful companies, why shouldnt they be millionaires? The tenants of a capitalist democracy. You put the work in you reap the rewards.

[@teambeforeself6839]

@@seanf9047 truth, but I was saying that this stayed hidden and now he has enriched himself and fool the masses on who he really is. Very disappointing. So not being a hater for the enrichment, the hate is the blood that it took.

[@teambeforeself6839]

@@manhalen7046 they got rich on the lies. It isn’t that they are rich, it is just the deceit and use of the blood spilled.

[@manhalen7046]

@@teambeforeself6839 Detail how exactly they got rich on lies. What is he lying about?

[@Aaron-cx2lv]

As a fellow military member I appreciate professionalism above all else doesn’t matter what your job or role is. Thank you gentlemen for sharing this message 🫡 🇺🇸

[@82fdny97]

These interviews have been eye-opening

[@ExSTPD]

What that they waited 20 years to say something! If the SEALS were doing something wrong, then they should have said something then!

[@82fdny97]

@@ExSTPD either way

[@RenegadeRanga]

​@@ExSTPDare you deaf or slow. They explained why.

[@willhound2]

Thank you all for stepping up. I’m a former Marine with 1/8 & 2/2 pre 10 year war.

[@tuefelhunden3391]

No such thing as former.

[@willhound2]

@@tuefelhunden3391 there’s no such thing as an ex Marine. A former Marine is a Marine that served and is no longer active.

[@tuefelhunden3391]

@willhound2 “A Marine is a Marine. I set the policy two weeks ago - there’s no such thing as a former Marine. You’re a Marine, just in a different uniform and you’re in a different phase of your life. But you’ll always be a Marine because you went to Parris Island, San Diego or the hills of Quantico.” Commandant, General James F. Amos Former= having previously filled a particular role or been a particular thing. So "Once a Marine always a Marine" isn't a thing to you I guess.

[@Error_404_Account_Deleted]

Nothing is more important than the truth. Thank you gentlemen. Shame we were lied to for so many years.

[@christopherdooley9893]

Great conversation and information guys. Four men of integrity there. Semper Fidelis.

[@dbehrends-x9c]

506 Infantry (ARMY) experienced terrible things, too on the other side of Ramadi. Listen to these guys. I was kind of treated like a crazy guy for years when I would speak of my disdain for Team 3 with people that were not there. We need to support our brothers and our professionalism and make it right. Be the proper role models for our little brothers and sisters serving today and tomorrow.

[@BYS-LeeDeckelman]

Triple Canopy controlled the Government Center with 2/4 in early 2004. We were all one team back then. Much respect to the Magnificent Bastards! Great topic and show! Sending love and strength!

[@markadams2907]

What really makes this an absolutely HORRIFIC story is that some of these people become law enforcement officers here at home

[@ZachVanderpool-eq6vg]

I've never met a seal who became a cop. Get real.

[@EvilGNU]

Time for Jocko to show some "extreme ownership". But nah, don't think that'll ever happen.

[@obamavariant9128]

Do you think the rest of the veterans will take ownership of 200,000 civilian casualties in Iraq?

[@johnnyfamous]

​@@obamavariant9128 almost all of them are from airstrikes and missiles. Infantry on the ground especially living in the city is way too personal to be just waxing civilians. Sorry to rock your narrative

[@fanaticnomadicadventures6139]

I see your the type of person who bileves every thing you hear 🤡🤡🙊🤡🤡

[@mrj3217]

What I am seeing here is loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity, and personal courage. These men are doing the right thing. If they killed civilians, disrespected and compromised soldiers dafety and security and worked against building a good civilian/military repore.

[@featheredserpentofthewest2049]

Absolute facts. I was there, and I was at Habbaniyah. The SOF guys and other Army elements were extremely professional . The SEALs were absolutely reckless( and were replaced by a group of 'older SEALs . We called "Redbull" ) and would make the battlespace hot . Camp Blue Diamond was down the MSR from us.

[@joeyjojojr.shabadoo915]

Eddie Ray Routh (a Marine) was in Iraq at the same time as TF Bruiser (circa 2007). Did he perhaps feel that TF Bruiser may have been responsible for Marine Corps deaths (perhaps friends of his ?), eventually resulting in his shooting of Chris Kyle ?

[@brucepeckham6043]

That's the most interesting theory I've heard - would make some sense if so - why else would he have done it at that shooting range??

[@bigfootwithinternetconnect2330]

Crackpot theory, but holy shit does it make sense

[@Cobra-ky9bt]

Holy shit...

[@gooddoggo3547]

Just want to say, if any of those three men are reading this. Ya'll are doing the right thing, and I hope you are able to continue your existence without the weight of knowing what you know. I have always been anti-war to a certain extent and it it has hardened much much more compared to when i was younger, but I have never hated or held contempt over the service men/women of the military. Over the years though, after taking all in the information and I'm always learning more. I have grew bitter and formed a hatred and distrust for the Military as an institution. However, when American Sniper came out and Lone Survivor came out, and when I got older and more suspicious of stories (happens with age to everyone). After all the reports of immaturity of the seals and the my research of Chris Kyle as a human being (because at the time, I never doubted his story. I only despised him as a person, but respected his service) when I came back to those events and read into them with an open mind. My entire perspective of the Seals went from thinking that there is some bad actors, but its not a culture problem. To, most of the Seals are people I should not trust at all and I off the bat don't like them and assume the worst. To hear from all 3 of you, that this isn't your experience with other Seals but also pointing out the bad actors, I feel that I can look at Seal Units with more sympathy and respect. That there is a way to solve the issue, and that it's finally being acknowledged. I don't like the idea of real personal and intimate stories of war being sold as a way for people to experience heroism, and live through those who have actually put their life at risk (but its also impossible to prevent, and might serve a greater purpose despite it). However to have people live through those who are nothing more then living ghosts of a person they know they aren't, while most of those who have died in combat never lied about who they were, showed their vulnerability in death, but despite that faced death head on and looked it in the eye. Those people are dead, and their stories haven't been told, and most likely never will. While those who have built a lie to serve their own fabricated legacy are writing books and spewing words that might as well be considered empty and meaningless are living lives of luxury and success. Its despicable, and all 3 of you despite the faults that come with being human. Are the few that carry true integrity that actually weighs something.

[@thomascerulli8013]

Marine Corps, 82-86. We trained with all members of the SOC community in 85 Fort Sherman Panama. Their were all extremely professional. And in typical Marine Corps fashion. Towards the end of the program. We earned their respect. There was a Seal Team on base at the time. They weren’t part of the training excersize. I have to ask a very simple question. Why would you place a punisher skull on your flack jacket. I can only speak as a Marine. Thats totally UN-SAT..And you would pay a price for that. I have my own opinions of The Seal Community. When they started attacking David Goggins. I appreciate the work you’re doing. Thank You Brother 🇺🇸

[@shapeshifter52001]

haha, thats the year I recieved my patch while in Panama.

[@petterlauritz]

Keep up addressing these topics. As a NATO allied I know how important it is to implement a healthy mindset in our future soldiers . So in the future we find ourselves on the right side of history. Hearts and minds!

[@hatfieldmccoy0311]

My boy was with 3/8, we went through SOI, I was with 1/2, my first 4, reupped and went to 3/1, he reupped and went to 3/8. He said the same thing, talked about almost lighting up SEAL guys when they bumped into them and I don't understand the exact situation bumped there was no one supposed to be there but some how they almost lit them up. He lost alot of respect for the teams after that. There were alot of Marines that were there that have said the same thing

[@shamarj834]

I’ve been tired of the “ Navy Seal “ story for years now. I’m so glad to see a lot more Delta guys coming out with their stories now! I’ve never heard of a perfect human/ organization before, and these guys seemed too perfect IMO. My marine leadership stoped me from attempting SF because of the behavior they saw in Iraq. You could sense that they had a bad taste for sf.

[@ChrisHoward141]

Delta guys were telling their stories before SEALs. They had movies, games, books, etc way before SEALS did. You must be new😂

[@shamarj834]

@@ChrisHoward141 “A LOT MORE” read carefully bud! Enjoy your day !

[@ChrisHoward141]

@@shamarj834 “BEFORE”, lol don’t just read but TRY to comprehend there little guy👍

[@dbohler8640]

Love this. Jocko removed my comment from his video too. Btw: there’s another Marine offering up his critique of the XO in a separate video. I think both of these guys are sincere and honest. Read “Code Over Country” The email from Jocko to Chris Kyle said everything I needed to know about Jocko. Jocko sat quietly by while Kyle smeared Jessie Ventura, all while knowing that Kyle was a sociopathic liar. That’s how much respect Jocko has for his senior frogmen and tradition. Are we to believe that Jocko wasn’t there when Monsoor’s CMH was awarded? He knew that Ventura never said anything like what Kyle alleged and he knew Kyle never hit Ventura, but he sat quietly and let the country crap on Ventura. Screw Jocko.

[@bittnerbs]

Can you link the video? As an enlisted Marine Infantryman during the same time that this XO was in, I find him to be suspect. He doesn’t seem like the kind of guy that made a good platoon commander. My good platoon commanders didn’t run and hide post-career. They are easy to find; however, I’m not sure where the shitbag platoon commanders are.

[@manhalen7046]

Youre running to Jessie Ventura's rescue?!?!? Geezuskrist people, pull your heads out of your butts.

[@dbohler8640]

@@manhalen7046 I guess you think that “because it’s Jessie Ventura, it’s OK to slander a senior veteran frogman, even if that slander destroyed his livelihood”. Ventura was there in HONOR of SEAL tradition, dismissing class 258 from Hell week, as he had done when asked to dismiss 158, years before. He didn’t bad mouth his brother SEALs as Kyle alleged and Kyle never hit him. Maybe you think that’s OK and you’re screwed up too if you think it’s OK but it’s not OK in this veteran’s mind. Jocko should be ashamed for not speaking out on Ventura’s behalf. The email between Jocko and Kyle proves that Jocko knew Kyle’s book is full of ish. Ventura became successful, wealthy and famous without scraping gold from the trident. He always honored the silent professional’s code. Kyle and Jocko crapped on it.

[@JRN007]

There are some rangers also speaking out.

[@dbohler8640]

@@JRN007 got a link? I’d be interested to hear what they’ve got to say.

[@yeahdavid8656]

As someone who did a significant amount of work on military law in law school, the issue fo ROE and accountability has always intrigued me. Having participated in multiple conferences and talks with individuals such as veterans and actual JAG, over related topics, it's interesting to hear about what is really going on down range.

[@georgetrevino3532]

I was in Ramadi with 1/16 INF from 2003-2004 ; great podcast !

[@monkeydan11b]

Gentlemen, thank you for having the courage to open up about this publicly and set the record straight.

[@sentfromdaniel]

Not a vet here. But I 100% have always thought something was too perfect about all these cats and am happy to hear that nobody is as perfect as they are in their own comic books. I don’t think you’re angry vets! You guys and the antihero podcast dudes are the real deal exposing truths! Thank you from just an athletic electrician! The Blue Collar Way!

[@PatrickWalker-gh6hm]

Carlos hathcock was perfect in Vietnam

[@8551-w5v]

In addition, we had Marines who acted unprofessionally as well. We're not robots as some people believe. I was fortunate enough to not witness any unjust actions from the Marines, Sailors and ODAs with whom I worked. These Raiders, SEALs and SF men should be proud of their service and contribution to keeping America safe and secure in challenging times. OORAH Warriors

[@bittnerbs]

100%. On our pre-deployment leave, several Marines in my unit did drugs. As soon as we got back from leave, they pissed hot. I think it was intentional because they were scared to go to Fallujah. Our unit decided not to tell us who pissed hot until we got to Fallujah. They then stripped them of their firearms and made them police call the FOB from sunrise to sunset every day, while their buddies were out fighting the biggest battle that the Marine Corps had been in since Vietnam.

[@TheFlyingRaptor]

Just goes to show that the more someone talks up their war record, the more skeptical we should be of their accomplishments. It's the quiet professionals that are often the most courageous and served with the most honor.