South Africa is losing engineers

[@tiehoteele874]

We have graduates who can't find work cos they want them to have experience in the field

[@vf1154]

That's Life. I fear i Will never work after graduation. Its like this everywhere. 5 years of experience, 10 years. "How am i supposed to get XP if i cant even play? "

[@produb_sa]

@@vf1154 I've been having anxiety about the same thing. Look at how Covid hit us... Were there any workplaces operating (civil engineering sector) during level 5 ?

[@rickmorty5215]

It depends hey. But graduates still have the lowest unemployment rate by far

[@Appregator]

Normally they employ you for what you are capable of doing. The BSc. Eng would indicate your capability depending on which university you studied. It's can be a future investment for a business so long as you don't resign once you get the experience.

[@MrElhabib123]

Unfortunately all skilled people are leaving Africa👍

[@tawongamunyanduri5874]

This is funny as I watch from Zimbabwe ,and you're now also talking about land yooo disaster is brewing over there 😂😂😂

[@viwekenneth6028]

@Bok ram who cares about them

[@viwekenneth6028]

@Bok ram yes them

[@viwekenneth6028]

@Bok ram 🤣😂 says someone who looks like the inside of a pussy

[@xys007]

But fortunately for them ;p

[@johnmolefe3380]

As an Engineer student in the making I think political influences have abused this once upon a time awesome sector. When I was working for a consulting. I can't count how many bribes I was offered to cut corners in projects. I don't think will recover from this. ECSA needs to intervene and strengthen their policies around consulting and construction firms in relation to high level assessments of student development in firms and protect engineers from political sabotage. I don't blame why some engineers migrate. Professionalism is being bruised here in Mzansi . And lastly encourage private sector absorb graduates as means of social responsibility.

[@christdiedforoursins5756]

Thank you for sharing that that was quite interesting

[@matthewws5694]

Well said

[@rickmorty5215]

I hope your life was not endangered as a result. But yea, professionalism and ethics are not taken seriously in SA. The last thing you need as an engineer is to have a colapsed bridge under your belt😂 But change is coming. Especially from Cape Town. Its not a perfect province, but it is still the best example of what this country can become in terms of governance.

[@davidblyth5495]

I'm a supervisor of students doing their M Eng (Management) theses - all have had years of experience. Your concern is in line with theirs. ECSA's role is not to lobby on behalf of engineers but they should advise government in this matter.

[@ttendo3670]

Well said bud..also a engineer student

[@Appregator]

Engineers should be running the country. It would work. But democracy selects useless mamparas who could not even run a successful spaza shop. Qualified vote is required.

[@fineapple3435]

Appregator it’s sad how true this is.

[@carlosd5031]

Everyone in the UK thinks engineers fix boilers and dishwashers, install satellite and clean swimming pools.

[@Appregator]

@@carlosd5031 I have heard they refer to themselves as such. Strange, it is similar to a nurse's assistant calling themselves Dr. In Italy someone with a BSc Eng is called doctor. 😂 The world is not consistent and egos take flight really early in some countries.

[@carlosd5031]

@@Appregator yes you are right, I suppose this is everywhere.

[@ReadWithTshepho]

Engineers should also study the liberal arts - being a mere technocrat doesn't work in SA.

[@reubentrotter4432]

Measures? It's not only engineers, but it's also professionals with experience and skills. There is enough work but work is reserved for those who are connected.

[@davidverster9523]

Yes..given to the below mean IQ BEE....south africa now on its way to the bottom of the cesspool...

[@thabanemhlongo8888]

@@davidverster9523 hey smart ass, lose that mindset it's dangerous in this society.

[@GuguladiM]

South Africa is losing engineers because they aren't employing any.

[@coolman9311]

The truth has been spoken

[@nelsonbarbosa6104]

There's no work for them ,instead of spending money eskimos,say put money into infrastructure, like here in portugal ,we in a boom

[@meandtheotheri8177]

Especially not those who can speak native English. As a South African who obtained an qualification abroad, I am rejected to fill the VIP seats back home. Never again will feel guilty when in a foreign country to be told 'to go back to my country'. I will gladly say ' South Africa, not my country anymore.'

[@user-gw2wd6zp6l]

After 43 years as a construction engineer in South Africa with the last 12 or so years focusing on mentoring and training emerging "technicians", I was no longer allowed to work on site as I would try and correct subtandard work that did not conform to industry norms as well as not conforming to contractual legalities. A further unwritten rule imposed by the main government department in our province was that only BEE engineers were allowed to work on the government projects. My vast experience on all aspects of civil engineering construction and love of training young engineers has therefore been lost to the industry forever.

[@davidblyth5495]

My research showed that developed countries had about three times the proportion of engineers & scientists than that of South Africa. Countries like Japan and S Korea has six times the proportion of engineers & scientists than that of South Africa.

[@LoneWolf-zj8it]

As an engineering student ..... Im here to stay💪💪💪

[@PDog69]

Don't stay bro, go see the world

[@matthewws5694]

I was the same. Until all this job famine, affirmative action and nepotism showed me flames

[@alef7236]

@Andre Norje Ha!

[@Memi.F]

Andre Norje lol good for you. Do you boo. Do you

[@thamimaknyiwemhlanga8312]

@Andre Norje yet you stay and get fat in their country

[@lobogunthergdiesoetewulf9792]

It's a spiritual problem, and when Isaiah 28 starts in this country, South Africa faces a period of 75 days when there will be no human government to intervene. This is only one of the judgements of YHWH that will start to engulf south africa, and others will follow until this country acknowledges Who truly reigns here, and His Name is YHWH (YaHWeHshua) and He will cleanse this land thoroughly, *[[Mat **3:12**]] TS2009* “His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He shall thoroughly cleanse His threshing-floor, and gather His wheat into the storehouse, but the chaff He shall burn with unquenchable fire.”

[@christdiedforoursins5756]

The scriptures taken out of context it doesn't apply to South Africa but I get what you saying Jesus Christ is the king of all creation. Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures was buried and rose again on the third day according to the scriptures 1 Corinthians 15 verse 3 Jesus said his Kingdom is not of this world.

[@lobogunthergdiesoetewulf9792]

@@christdiedforoursins5756 it applies and it is not out of context, the word is specifically for the nation of South Africa, and it's future in prophecy. What was, shall be again, and yes His Kingdom is not of this world, but His Sovereignity is all over this planet and it's inhabitants and if He wants to set an example of a nation forth, He will do it and in His way.

[@lobogunthergdiesoetewulf9792]

@@christdiedforoursins5756 if a nation or individual do not repent and respond to what He already did for them on the Cross, then according to His own words: John 3:18-21 is the answer.

[@lobogunthergdiesoetewulf9792]

@@christdiedforoursins5756 read Ezekiel 16 and realise and understand this nation's decline. Nobody wants to hear or speak the truth anymore because they nailed it to the Cross, because THIS is what is being preached in churches. People hate YHWH, and will do anything contrary to His Commandments. And His sheep hears His Voice and DO what He says, otherwise they are not of Him. We are to love what He loves and hate what He hates. Our Savior and King, YHWH should be our first in everything, not pick and choose what we want to do or how we want to do it. And His judgments are coming to this country, whether the people like it or not. Just like in Jeremiah's time, so will it be. People will will hate those who speak the truth and for His Name sake, because they hate Him.

[@christdiedforoursins5756]

@@lobogunthergdiesoetewulf9792 I have to agree with what you say and say Amen to that

[@treasure9981]

South African engineer's are going to other countries for better salary, better treatment and to show their skill. In South Africa there are no jobs for them and it's all about connections which is unfair 😔

[@thandinkosimkhize6513]

people are being deployed in this country not employed

[@christdiedforoursins5756]

That's funny

[@grimsadventures-bikesnpetr7913]

Correct

[@andrevanas85]

well said

[@198415able]

just shows bee engineers just look at the state of our roads .give people work based on merit not color

[@markstemmett5296]

It is all part of the decolonization campaign. Port Elizabeth municipality has gone from 41 professional civil engineers in 1991 to only 1 now. A very successful decolonization campaign.

[@survivelife5031]

The country is losing way more because of BBBEE and affirmative action just to name two!!

[@mrmusanda3576]

Well, you can always live in Europe with people that look like you

[@joej557]

Did you ever think maybe these engineers are watching State Capture Zondo commission of enquiry? Exposing what's really going on in state-owned enterprises? Why do they tip toe around the issue of THE ABUSE OF BEE?

[@maryduplessis2510]

Get rid of BEE. As was evident with judge mogeng's judgement when a post in the police force was open and the only qualified person to fill it was a white policewoman - he said that the post must remain vacant till a black/coloured or indian could fill it. Not gooooood at all.... Shortsighted....

[@samshikena4142]

Straatcom propaganda

[@maryduplessis2510]

@Saskia maybe you do not fully appreciate what this judge actually did. He cemented BEE by using law and effectively told us that whites cannot hold any position of authority or status. Only people of colour can hold those positions of status. I know that indians and coloureds are also affected and once whites have been totally pushed out indians and coloureds will suffer to a greater degree from this type of racism until they go the same route. It is a common agenda used by communist to provide scapegoats so they can continue stealing. As long as there is something to hate people remain sufficiently distracted.

[@dimphomaseko9698]

@Saskia white people are such cry babies. Get over yourselves. U don't even realize that u are more priveledged than black people. U told us to stop complaining about apartheid.

[@trevorrol7930]

Corruption is such a lucrative business. I don't know why anyone in their right mind could possibly think that this country has any future.

[@thabanidube7314]

this is a lie, there many black young people with engineering degrees who are jobless and many black engineers on temporary contracts, who are still hoping for permanent contracts.

[@rfk3386]

Hey, there are many young WHITE engineers as well hoping for a future and to have permanent contacts. You can say thanks to the ANC for all, job losses, increased crime and collapsing infrastructures happening all over Africa. Christ, they can't even keep the Power on... what a joke.

[@meandtheotheri8177]

I agree, this is what makes this so scary. It is not about colour anymore. Engineers of all colour are not being utilized to their technical skill in this country. All promises, no plan. In fact, I think just on the basis of being a 'South African' should you leave to obtain foreign residence somewhere well suited. An S.A Passport are now in many countries known as the 'green mamba' and is not a good suiter for traveling. My advice: work your butt off to obtain a 1st world citizenship/residency so you have the option when S.H.T.F to slide back to a better world without being condemned for your country of 'origin.' There are countries faaar more beautiful than South Africa and you really will not lose anything in terms of interpersonal advantages or culture any more than in this country. It is a hoax that people believe S.A is 'unique'. Every culture is unique and significantly so in their own way.

[@Dawn5048Batchelor]

Our family might be aloud to stay and not flee after all what a relief. Who would have known that buying little peter that lego and maccarno for his amusement when he was 4 would pay off now that he is 14 . Our little peter is an expert at building all sorts of infrastructure and it only cost 5000 rand. The only thing missing is a fancy bit of paper uncle Bob has a printer so we are set to go.

[@zacharialedwaba696]

But this requires a balance of economic movement in the country. Currently our country is not economically conducive to have engineers as people are stealing money to properly run project. We need to fix our debt to equity status in government to effectively stimulate the economy, fire all the thief in government and ensure and finally hire professionals I mean qualified leader in government departments woman actually want to work for government and do honorable work.

[@mushken65]

Get rid of BEE. This monstor called BEE will destroy S.Africa. 25 years is enough of this shit to now to free the job market to the best qualified to build the country

[@brayton6683]

No wonder our engineers are leaving and moving to places like Dubai etc because theres more job opportunities there for them etc ... Well depending on how things are in SA in the next 7 years time wen I become a engineer.I might also leave because theres alot of graduates at home looking searching for jobs not just in the engineering sector other sectors also And time we live in it's all about connections .Its about who you know and not what you can do if you wanna make it

[@mcdollard7469]

True

[@elizabethnadrau195]

There are lot of Educated people in SouthAfrica who don't have jobs.It is normal for them to leave the Country when their jobs being taken by the others. Where are the Engineers with the experience who used to work in SouthAfrica? Did they leave the Country because don't have chance for the jobs anymore.?

[@thabanemhlongo8888]

The racism you find in these videos, i give up on humanity.

[@tiehoteele874]

This is what happens when we let private sectors to run the country.. companies owned by individuals who don't want mistakes they only care about your experience not your qualification.. ranks is falling cos the state depends on investors.. ANC is owned by rich foreigners and when we talk about it " white monopoly " people think it's a racist phrase, we need to think critical and take matters In our own hands..

[@meandtheotheri8177]

Hi Thabang, what a brilliant statement. Fellow Engineer here working in Customer Service. yes, in South Africa. Not willing to expand my skill-set to a job here. Very sad that S.A. not doing more to employ skilled Professionals.

[@tokoroaibanez8289]

Ja man, affirmative action is working really well for you!

[@meandtheotheri8177]

South Africa is losing Engineers because they are better paid and foreign countries treat their Engineers better. South Africa is losing out, Period.

[@servantoftheservant5022]

Plenty black engineers

[@ragnarandersson2866]

In SA iff you wont neuw passport .take 1-2 years before you geth .in Europe 2-3 week...because no stupid black communist government...😁👍

[@desh6220]

Stupid government indeed

[@millionmthembu5406]

Let them go if the want to go.

[@Nugget_prime]

Haiti 2.0

[@eastafrika728]

South Afrika a and Afrka doesn't need engineers, we need a policy of self sufficient innovations and training machinists, emginering is dependency on western autistic technology. We have our own technical needs which we must focus on.

[@terencenekhwalivhe6004]

you don't really understand what is engineering I SEE

[@citylinkproject9901]

@East Africa , Engineers are the ones who build a country and the economy...

[@meandtheotheri8177]

First off, your statement is not quite Grammatically coherent - I think what you meant is 'South Africa 'do not' need Engineers'. I only partially agree - We need Professionals, unless you want bottlenecks. There is a myth now going around that Universities are overemphasized to train Tertiary Professionals, but some Professions are still timeless, like Doctors/Lawyers/Engineers for instance. You would not trust an everyday-man/woman to perform surgery on you knowing they are not a Doctor; the same for Professional Engineers designing high profile structures/prototypes, etc. There definitely should be more implementation to elevate Professionals for the very tiers they were educated for. South African unfortunately fail to do both - Provide education, and re-positioning Professionals.

[@meandtheotheri8177]

@Sibusiso This poor chap can't even execute proper Grammar, let alone form a cogent argument.

[@eastafrika728]

@@meandtheotheri8177 If my statement was not coherent, how come you understood it? Careful trying to play English teacher on the net, you will get caught out. South Afrika needs open engineering laboratories for the indigenous youth to develop whatever they need, simple.

[@lulameke2904]

LET THEM LEAVE. STOP PLAYING YOUR MIND GAMES. WE ADULTS HERE. WE WOKE. NO ENGINEER CAN HELP US BUT THE MOST HIGH OUR AHAYA IS OUR HOPE.

[@bryanhurd9955]

NGTH

[@snethembasnera2396]

That is good..Now there'll be less competition for jobs.

[@christdiedforoursins5756]

There will also be less jobs.

[@snethembasnera2396]

@@christdiedforoursins5756 why?

[@lukasdewaal7080]

No shit Sherlock

[@servantoftheservant5022]

Good

[@thabomkwane9842]

Bob Person you very stupid

[@thabomkwane9842]

Unfortunately all skilled professionals are leaving South Africa, thanks to ANC poor administration in charge, Cde deployment. Nothing will get right in SA as long as ANC is in goverment

[@shashikanaidoo5553]

@@thabomkwane9842 at least we see this for what it is.... plenty others sugar coating the truth....