Diagnosing Battery Draw (Battery Goes Dead Overnight)

In this video we diagnose a parasitic draw on a Honda Odyssey that is causing the battery to go dead overnight. There are many methods that can be used to do this and you will want to chose the best method for your particular vehicle. -Enjoy!
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[@klwthe3rd]

These diagnostic videos where Eric O has a customer complaint that he needs to play detective to find the faulty component, shorted wire or other electrical gremlins are always my favorite to watch. Why? Because this is where THE TRUE TALENT of a great mechanic lies! So many times I seem to be that guy that gets these intermittent shorts or problems that nobody wants to or has the ability to find. I get stuck living with the problem because I don't have anyone nearly close to Eric O's talent to solve my mystery problem in my area. I found this channel because of videos like these and I stayed/subscribed because he follows proper diagnostic procedures to find the problem the first time. He even worried about the soda can in the customers car with Mrs. O. Lol. Nobody is better, nobody!

[@rj.parker]

Electrical diagnostics certainly separate the men from the boys

[@Joe6packAmerican]

Electric gremlins are the worst and finding anyone who can methodically track them down is priceless. This community is lucky to have Eric O.

[@klwthe3rd]

Kerry Mullins I couldn't agree more. If I can drive the 500 mile plus to bring my car to him, I will!

[@dave_n8pu]

Also agree, to many 'mechanics' just throw parts at them and hope one of them fix the problem.

[@jdere31760]

Kenneth, not many with True Talent in any business in this economy. Electrical issues are some of the hardest to narrow down. Not many people want to invest the time to learn how to do it or step up to the mental challenge.

[@3347861]

Had an elderly lady with a Caddy what "wouldn't start if she parked it in the driveway but was fine if she parked it in the road". After checking for parasitic drains, etc several times, I took the tow truck to her house. When I saw the setup, I knew what was going on. Her driveway was going down into a basement garage at a steep angle. The road was level. Deck lid had a mercury switch. The driveway angle was enough to make the switch turn on the light under the deck lid and run down the battery. I put a toggle switch into the circuit and everyone was happy......

[@mannys9130]

John Baugh Brilliant!

[@motorhead6763]

John Baugh years ago we had that on a 1990 DeVille from power lines overhead. Seriously it would not start in driveway but perfect in street. Had windshield gage display holograms nonsense . Crazy

[@sanctealphonse4510]

Nice catch bro!

[@williamwhitehead8362]

John Baugh -

[@banjopete]

John Baugh Sherlock, well spotted!

[@gonesideways6621]

I have a friend in my town that for last 40 plus years has been go to mechanic for electrical problems even dealerships bring their problems to him, only car I hear him growl about are VW he is not so fond of their electrical engineering, over years he has saved me a lot of money.

[@rollingrockfan2482]

Great diag on this van. Knowing Eric he set Mrs. O's door assembly right next to her timing belt.

[@ericcorse]

My favorite part, the lovely Mrs. O playing to the camera

[@williegillie5712]

I had three parasitic draws over the years I fixed. Luckily older cars. Yanked the battery cable and put a test light between the cable and post and pulled individual fuses till the light went out. The first was the radio in mid 90s ford car. A ford explorer the security system a relay in the back right pillar that turned on the side mirror bottom lamps. Last one was easy. A do it to yourself amp and radio with a wire that ran straight to the radio from the battery(obvious one)

[@garyscoville7741]

Mr. O. Gary from CT here. Great video on that stupid fuel door switch. I'm an electrician of 39 years and I learned a lot about auto electric troubleshooting. Thanks for that, plus for showing me a whole other way to do it! See, ya never stop learning how to do things till they plant ya!!!!

[@mdfnavy3701]

Had the same issue on my 2002 Odyssey. It was the actual latch that springs out the fuel fill door. It has a cable internally that activates a switch. The plastic housing broke on the latch inside the frame of the car and was making the switch close as if the door was open, causing the 250 milliamp parasitic draw (activating the door lock relay). The door would remain locked, and even lock itself if I unlocked the car doors. Had to pull all of the paneling off of the left side which was the most difficult part. Replaced the cable switch and the parasitic draw went away (doors operated normally). GREAT video. BTW - if pulling panels, I recommend buying the plastic clips (for replacing the panels) ahead of time since it is likely you will break some in the removal process.

[@ozzstars_cars]

Had the part about a year and put it back on the shelf. lol. No new parts installed until the "last" bill has been paid off in full. Spousal contract agreement is my new motto.

[@tofadeisastart]

The picture in picture is on point. 👍🏻

[@marynunn1708]

Nice trick Grandma w/r/t wrapping the wire into a 5X coil to get more resolution on the amp draw signal! 👍

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

"The way it used to be in the olden days when you used to have to think..." -Dr. O.

[@rjb6327]

@JPS JPS I would too.

[@mercury-nc4tm]

@JPS JPS yes, and I think she liked it just a little bit! lol

[@schwartzenheimer1]

Great job, and always nice to see the lovely Mrs. O...thanks for the videos.

[@hanskinslo326]

Eric O., in the know! Always a good show!

[@samcooke2742]

Thanks for another great edutaining video. You are the best car tech show on KZbin. Nice to have a balance between the heat'n'beat episodes and the quantum electrodynamics episodes. I am looking forward to your work on something really extreme, like a problem with an obstacle avoidance system or a lane-keeping system.

[@KSMike1]

I’ve had two Odysseys including this generation. They’re fantastic but they have side door issues all the time because they’re so complicated. Not surprised it was an unrelated issue.

[@willemstreutgers1154]

Well first time i see a nice and clean engine bay in your shop.

[@halleffect1]

Eric, great tip with the inductive winding. it makes perfect sense but of course I never thought of it.

[@davidcruz7731]

Thanks this helped me find a draw on a 2015 maserati gran turismo convertible! Convertible top module failure. I appreciate these videos as a fairly green (6 years) mechanic.

[@adamtrombino106]

I agree with checking and verifying the readings with a couple different tools/meters before proceeding. I got burned yrs ago by a Fluke 83 that had a crappy lead. I found an ASD relay that was stuck on, but my Fluke still showed 750+mA down from 3 amps.. I chased that SOB for hrs! For the heck of it, another tech lent me his 98, and low and behold, the meter showed .0025mA with the relay pulled. I fixed it, but didn't know it!

[@adamtrombino106]

Point is/was, make sure your leads are good by zeroing them out on the ohms scale before going after any kind of amp draw. I assumed my meter was correct, and it cost me a bunch of wasted time!

[@wingerrrrrrrrr]

No question about the importance of working test leads, but how did faulty leads cause a misleading high current reading? Meter itself maybe.

[@John-fz3ij]

31:19 Eric gives his assessment and the option to the customer, I wish everyone thought like you Eric, good policy imho.

[@franklynfrias126]

You could have also asked Mrs. O to connect and disconnect the fuse so you can hear 👂 the relay 💡 👍. Nice work though, thanks for the video.

[@wyattoneable]

The diagnostic lessons are appreciated. I'll be back home Wednesday so I can work on my truck. :)

[@paulschoonover2084]

Enjoyed the brief tutorial on different methods of chasing parasitic drains.

[@jessejames96]

Be sure to make sure vise grip isn't long enough to contact the positive post of battery if it comes disconnected...zzzap and a nice smoke show and 35 lb magnet created

[@kensherwood4866]

Nice to see that your go to Hondu "expert", your wife, was called in to do the detail diagnosing.

[@davidkroth]

Large collection of RockAuto fridge magnets. Nice!

[@JeffreyStrader]

Eric 'O' Iv'e told you this several times before, but you are an EXCELLENT TEACHER. I have called upon several of your tutorial videos to help me with issues I had to deal with, especially my on my 2007 RAM. I had a power drain on my 2007 Ram 1500 Hemi...................Turned out it was the ignition wire on the starter solenoid.

[@jeffryblackmon4846]

What a wonderful source of info you are using. The procedure possibilities seem nearly endless without one. Great work!

[@SouthMainAuto]

With out info (or a road map as I call it) any thing would just be a guess.

[@ab_ab_c]

For only 200+ $/month, you can have the same auto info! lol

[@2-old-Forthischet]

"used to have to think".........how true!

[@63256325N]

Fuse (car) 54 where are you....? That comment just dated me I guess, anyway, thanks for the video, you're a clever guy and thank grandma too.

[@samshim3149]

I’m 20, and I got the reference.

[@kevinbyrne4538]

Had a 2000 Olds Intrigue. Whenever it sat idle for a couple of days, the battery died. Mechanics were perfectly willing to replace the battery, but none of them ever bothered to perform a parasitic draw test. One day, a wisp of smoke floated from under the hood. There was a small flame on top of the alternator. The rectifiers had shorted and were draining the battery through the alternator's windings, which heated so much that the windings' insulation melted and caught fire.

[@homerson1080]

Thank you for showing the whole process of not just trouble shooting but also repairing the cause of the drainage to the battery.

[@haywardsautomotive6156]

Nice diagnosis and it's always nice when it's the easy side of a circuit especially a fuel door circuit.

[@haywardsautomotive6156]

You're up kinda late

[@mikefedele4521]

Cool find. We have seen some interesting draw issues with the oddesy vans. Then the door mechanism they are intersting. I've taken them apart it is a wonder they last as long as they do. I have an older version of the vantage.... Why snap on stopped making them I will never know. I use it often. Great video looking at the van the client will fix it. Honda owners are great that way.

[@zoellar11]

I was looking to help my brother who owns a 2005 Odyssey.....who has a battery drain problem. Great video....I;ve learned a WHOLE LOT! Thanks

[@johnmeyer4804]

You have done this multiple times and I have watched them all. My '03 Avalanche developed a parasitic loss and caused me to use your methods. I never traced to the exact circuit, but eliminated so many possibilities I decided to replace the gang window, door lock, mirror switch on the driver's door. The switch has gradually lost function over three years ( it isn't a daily driver). I unplugged the switch while I waited for the new one to come in. Checked the battery after three or four days and it was fine. New switch allows me to adjust mirrors and roll down windows. Life is good!

[@Paul1958R]

Eric, I love these types of videos! Actually I love ALL of your videos! Great call on that relay and the fact that the 250ma draw was a clue that it was a relay (control side). I will remember that. Thank you God bless paul

[@SouthMainAuto]

200ish Ma draw is u usually a relay (control side) or a interior light bulb :)

[@ncrdisabled]

It is always nice to help a pretty helper !!!!

[@hawaiianf1504]

Another Great Diagnostic Video. Excellent start to semi-finish, at least to where we're left wondering what the customer will do. Hope you get the Green Light to fix things and are able to record it for us. Btw, nice little dent in the fuel filler door cover.

[@baxrok2.]

Beautiful example of diagnosing a draw. Great job sir. Thanks Dr. O!

[@ccoo5804]

Way better than the way trade school tried to teach us.

[@davidprice2861]

Hey Eric, regarding amp clamps, the AC mode is inductive, but the DC mode uses Hall effect, it is very sensitive to magnetic fields, even the Earths (planet earth) which is why on low current range you need to zero / null out the meter before reading. Good interesting video, thanks..

[@Diagnosedan]

Impressive Video Eric! Handy listening tool you have there and good looking too! 😉

[@SouthMainAuto]

Expensive as all get out Dan but def. handy to have around!

[@reyrodriguez9718]

It seems to me that we should be watching your Gradma's videos, she has all the tricks, LOL

[@SouthMainAuto]

If she wasn't out saving the world perhaps she would have a channel....

[@reyrodriguez9718]

Ya see, even more reason to watch,lol, keep up the great work Mr. man

[@hawaiianf1504]

Oh Me - Oh My... Could GrandMa be the real superhero at SMA? Sorta like a real Mrs. Doubtfire... but with out the falsee's @..@ =-b Eric, ya don't wanna set your shirt pocket on fire, again .... Back Away from da fire wrench!!! Now, Gently hand it to Vanessa Per SMA Safety Rules (301.a-g) and Back Away Slowly!!

[@arthurfricchione8119]

Excellent presentation Mr Eric/Mrs Eric O. Nothing like today’s world of electronics. I personally liked the day where you had to be smart enough to physically open and close the door and remove the fuel filler cap. I own an odyssey and to be honest it’s a pain in the butt system. Hope you get the job it will be interesting to see how the mechanism functions. You and family stay safe and well 😊 Artie

[@OneSierra]

i just got burned using a test light as a jumper on the battery. Hours wasted. should have watched this first. Today is a day for learning. thanks!

[@jannepo]

Pretty small battery or long nights. 0,27A will draw about 6,5 Ah in 24 hours. Which is about 10% of a 60 Ah battery. (1A current for 1 hour = 1 Ah)

[@rrcoster]

Cool beans on finding the parasitic draw drain....You think you could show a video on how do find one on a newer vehicle when one comes in the shop?

[@Chris-Fennimore]

I second the motion! I got a 2015 Honda with a Parasitic draw. Local Mechanic cannot trace it.

[@antonioponce6544]

Eric O says like back in the old days when you used to have to think. I'm twice his age and remember those days so well. That phrase can be used to criticize the modern age where technology is depended upon to make sure we are safe. There are times as Eric described in this video where things can converge so this can be a life saver. However today I read that Tesla released a software update that allows their cars to start and travel up to 200 feet to their owners using a smartphone. The newspaper I read this on said as an example for someone to have their car pick them up at the front of Costco. This is the wrong use of this technology. It shouldn't be used to enable our laziness. Great job Eric.

[@josemedina9983]

Thank you for the information, your videos are always great to watch

[@roscoe454]

i came to this one right after your other video on power draw :)

[@crisprtalk6963]

I remember an older video where you were surprised to have 2K subs. Look at you today, 778K subs. Well done Eric.

[@onthewayup]

lol.... Eric, when you pulled the relay out behind the speaker.....i started to laugh, thinking..... you will end up taking the whole panel off anyhow... of course, i couldnt see what you could.....but if it were happening to me... i wouldve never gotten that relay back into its plug.. i know its an older video, but i learn something new from all your videos

[@tracydiller4492]

You see if they would have left well enough alone and kept the gas cap and filler neck behind the license plate all this could have been prevented and just kept the one side door on the passenger side Everyone would be happy. Another great video Dr. O and wife and as usual keep them videos coming. PEACE!!!

[@ThatGuysChannel4Whatever]

I know this sounds stupid, but you'd think that a fuse holder with a little momentary switch and long leads would be helpful when trying to find a mechanical relay. Matter of fact, I think I'm going to go make one now - provided I can find a scrap momentary switch.

[@throttlebottle5906]

fuses and switches bah, I use speaker wire, lamp cord or random wire laying around, run it where your working and play arc-o-matic touching the wires together obviously you can go all "fancy-pants" and make a permanent test cord with inline fuses and push button.

[@ThatGuysChannel4Whatever]

No fuse is fine if you're messing with your own ride, I'd rather not chance letting the smoke out of a customer's ride.

[@That_brokeG35]

My parasitic draw on my car was easy to figure out it was the inertia switch on the passenger seatbelt in the door on my 1990 civic hatch

[@alanreyes3475]

Awesome video Sr!! 👍👍👍👍👍

[@jimhalbert2290]

This is a good one! My laymen skills I had to watch it 2.5 times🚕

[@AaronKimmins]

Can't wait to see the method for new cars...

[@SouthMainAuto]

Similar to do just takes a bit longer is all

[@anomamos9095]

The very first thing you do before pulling any fuse or measurement is look for aftermarket accessories. Nine times out of ten even when wired by someone who has a clue it will be the accessory either wired wrong or just doing what it’s supposed to do. Even things that just plug into a cigarette lighter socket or the data port can draw power if the circuit doesn’t switch off. I fitted a reverse camera and unfortunately picked the wrong one of four identical power wires after finding the right one the wrong one jumped in its place as I was fishing between panels and trying to get both hands in to a place a child would have trouble getting one into. Being a low power draw it would take a week or more to kill the battery but it kept burning out cameras.

[@ColtaineCrows]

I always fit accessories on the "15" rail, should stay dead when ignition is off. Well, if a customer requests it different they get it different, but they also get a switch to turn it off.

[@SurferJoe46]

First ---> I didn't fall asleep this time. This is a very good basic electricity lesson. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make this video. You are redeemed.

[@jrjulien7394]

love the collection of rock auto stickers at 35:06 haha iv got a bit of a collection myself

[@ALEX-xd7ko]

Im just here cause i herd Ms O was in the video 😍.

[@gvvq-pi5ml]

Hi Eric just a couple of remarks, if its that much current it might be worth changing it to watts, i think its about 3 watts so it could be a bulb like the one in the trunk staying on, and with the fuses if you check which ones are live first you only have to remove those, as the dead ones shouldn't draw current, just an observation but you are doing great, from Fred in Essex UK.

[@pedrorojascervantes3928]

Blue point has a meter called Amp Hound. Very efficient , fast way to check without pulling fuses. I think it's made by Power probe.

[@richard3141592638]

I have an '06 Odyssey with parasytic drain - gonna give it a go this weekend. Thanks

[@mr.h4714]

Dam yo...you had/have the smartest Grandma ever....grandpa must've constantly felt inferior and useless around her!!

[@bleach_drink_me]

Thanks for the multiplication tip. Never thought of that. Will be trying it next time I have the clamp out.

[@stepark3437]

you make it look easy thanks and you are teaching a old dog new tricks

[@mcduff829]

Awesome repair man. Just started to watch you for the last month and been enjoying every video. Plus trying to watch all the others to catch up and great so far even if phone ring or door open it been a blast😄. Plus I like my lernings 😛 .Subscribed and liked a true thumbs up thxs

[@lucianoromero777]

My car was doing that but because some dumb ass installed the aftermarket stereo wrong. I removed the battery power fuse and it fixed the issue I’m gonna send it to a shop to wire it properly . Thanks for the video

[@tsapik]

Great help. I had I think similar story with Honda Odyssey 2004. Followed up shown procedure: same fuse 54 and then fuse 12 (inside). Only I didn't bother to remove relay instead I analyzed what would be most vulnerable component in mentioned circuit and decided to check sensor on fuel filler cap. Bingo! it had bad contact - after hitting button multiple time issue is gone. Now I know how to check if sensor failed after fueling - if I can not open driver side sliding door from my dash - I got to go and train that button.

[@JPilot2]

G'day Mr. O., and Mrs O!! A great video on how to diagnose a parasitic draw on they Honda Odyssey! I honestly would enjoy seeing a follow up video, on a hondoo odyssey sliding door Latch, Roller Assembly, and Replacement!! Btw, know that I do understand, about needing to get out, and enjoy the Summertime! But, we'll miss The What's Up Wednesdays! "Good Times!" Thank you so much, guys! Cheers! 😊✌🏼🚐💕

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

Love the tip wrapping the test lead several times 👊🏻

[@sharedknowledge6640]

Good diagnosis steps. I'm always thinking things like "Honda electrics almost never fail" and then I remember where you live and a fuel door switch will be exposed to some of your lovely salt spray and might get the crusties. At least it wasn't the multiplex body control module.

[@loktom4068]

Until it's proudly made in USA.

[@65blablabla]

I was going yo ask what happened to w.u.w,but I found out through the comments ,great video Eric,.

[@218philip]

If the draw is slow, one option would install a battery tender and plug it in when parked. A battery cut off switch when no outlet available. I mounted a switch inside the front right wheel well on my 06 corvette for periodic storage and theft protection, worked perfectly. Some draw problems aren’t worth the cost of diagnosis.

[@bigmac965]

In addition to everything else, it seems Mrs. O has talented ears! You married well, Mr. O!

[@SouthMainAuto]

She's a lucky girl ain't she!

[@Tinker001]

except for having to wash the hand print off the seat of her pants if my hearing wasn't fooling me at one point in the video...

[@dougking7592]

The info and details about wiring is very very helpful thanks brother

[@JoeCdaYT]

Had my own parasitic draw at one point. Just bought the car used and was working fine then one day no start, no dash, no remote controls, dead battery. Charge battery and starts fine. Went for one month then dived in with scope on a rope, amp clamp on battery and diagrams from alldata to tell me what circuit was killing battery. Found main fuse in under hood for heated accessories, like side mirrors, rear defog, and the seat heaters. Went and pulled fuses in the passenger fuse panel and draw would disappear for the rear and side mirrors. Pulled relay and power draw was still there. Determined fuse box was bad, replaced and no more phantom power draw. 2009 Buick Lacrosse that had two deer one on either side of the car. There are more things with this car that I have to fix, like random knock sensor grounding, modules disappearing from system then come back, and my favorite, the headlight driver wire from BCM to under hood fuse box broken.

[@InsideOfMyOwnMind]

I heard rumors that car makers were looking at offering back to basics cars. All the safety but none of the other BS. I for one cannot deal with all the crap while driving. Just gimme a wheel, a stick and a set of pedals and I'm fine.

[@richardcole6690]

You are correct... Locks the door if closed... Closes and locks door if open

[@psdaengr911]

Before tearing apart the interior to replace it, verify that the fuel door switch is being depressed by the fuel door. Honda uses mechanical switches that are very reliable, but the fuel doors themselves are not (so they are easy to replace). The part that pushes against the door open switch plunger is likely to be plastic or rubber and worn or fallen off.

[@lalitoojos]

Nice thinking again thanks for the inf Mr😊

[@nhra7110]

Eric - couldn't catch the last WUW yesterday live, but don't see the video? I'm having SMA WUW withdrawals, man! This video was very interesting as always, and your diag thought process is a great reminder to us all.

[@gambler78415]

Thank you so much for your detailed video. Very helpful 👍

[@guy1637]

I missed your last W.U.W last week and cannot get the recap of it..:( I enjoy seeing a little time relaxing and seeing all the cool stuff and what is going on with you..

[@doonerboxton]

It shounds like the best solution would be to replace the fuel door switch. I know the decission would be left up to the customer but becacuse it is a safety issue it would be in your best interest to recommend they allow you to replace it. Its all about libility and you could could become liable if you bypassed the safety devise and it was just your word against theirs. Document, document. Im no specialist as im only a plumber and gas fitter but i have heard enough where a furnace repairman bypassed safety devices and ended up in court. Always remember safety first. Yours and your customers. Great video by the way.

[@arthurfricchione6614]

Very informative video Eric seeing as how I own a Honda Van. Nice to know what's going on 👍

[@Ivo--]

Hey a Honda Oddysey! Better sell that guy Ms. O's timing belt.

[@JMassengill]

Great video! Totally on point!

[@hillsofva739]

Man i have a draw problem with my bmw thanks for the info great video .

[@leebarnes655]

Me too, it's a basket case.

[@jimmymac2177]

quite the collection of Rock Auto magnets!!

[@travispeoples]

Why doesn't pulling the fuses on newer vehicles work for tracking down current draw?

[@SouthMainAuto]

Because you risk the chance of "waking up" a module that is timed out and forcing you to start back from the beginning and in some cases that is a 1 hour wait!!

[@subjectofgov]

Just before I get in a really bad position to pull something apart I assess if I can put it back.

[@kwmiked]

Sweet video, no I know how to look for a draw on my GF Jetta. Thanks for coming in today Fella

[@seccat]

Had a parasitic draw on a new of the new CRV. Just needed a software update. Sometimes it sucks to be the guinea pig

[@doctorjohn-burgtekie]

Eric you need to pay Mrs O double her salary, running the office and a technician.

[@Tinker001]

Or maybe just replace her timing belt... Just sayin'

[@Okicombo]

"Back in the old days, when you used to have to think"

[@jacksonlamme]

5:30 what are you some kind of scientist?! 🤣