Ford F150: "Check Fuel Fill Inlet" Message On Dash

[@klwthe3rd]

With all these newer vehicles going to these "capless" systems, it's great to see a video about how a purge solenoid can be there real problem versus going on a wild goose chase looking back at the tank/filler neck. Great video.

[@papalouie5187]

great diagnostics. had the same issue with my 2010 Fusion. very intermittent P0457. when the 'tap-tap' fixed it i changed the purge solenoid and the code never came back.

[@richardcranium5839]

@8:05 you hooked the purge valve to a train horn???? magical lol

[@jonmatney9584]

Congratulations on breaking the 200 thousand subscriber mark. I've been with you from the beginning.

[@dricklorenz9340]

A perfect video to show how the understanding of system operation simplifies and expedites the process of troubleshooting and repair.

[@baxrok2.]

Outstanding job of explaining it for us. You're getting better all the time. Thanks Dr. O!

[@Micko350]

You're getting better all the time... Hey, they should make that a song! 🤣

[@Jpilgrim30]

Oh damn, the two handed reach around! Eric has skills! 😆

[@juanheredia4426]

SMA vid to end the weekend properly !! Thanks Eric

[@crisprtalk6963]

I just had this show up on my f150 2010 with the crappy triton engine. fun times. Day later... mine was the problem as well, no vacuum. I was happy to see that my Blue Driver tool was able to tell me the vapor pressure and command numbers in live data. Thanks Eric!!

[@bobbyhempel1513]

@@crisprtalk6963 what do you mean by crappy Triton engine I have a 2010 F-150 with a 4.6 l V8 Triton engine and it is great I'm over 220,000 mi and have had no engine trouble whatsoever.

[@billneu9520]

Auto engineers, it should be mandatory to watch your videos, so they can really learn how to buld autos, Thanks for your time and knowledge Bill N

[@shanedystenygagnon6513]

I could seriously watch this channel all day keep up the good work!

[@davidcraven277]

Ford always puts the sensitive parts in the hottest spots I think this by plan

[@tomd5010]

Planned lack of planning, actually. Thanks Henry!

[@merc68k]

Had a sticky purge solenoid on my wife's Corolla like this, I took a gamble and opened it up. Found the seat and pintle were both sticky so I cleaned em and put it back together, problem never came back!

[@Paul1958R]

Eric, Another great video and diagnosis! Its great that you have the experience to zoom right in on that purge solenoid when us mere mortals would be left guessing if it was the purge solenoid, vacuum line, fuel inlet/gas cap, or even vent solenoid (see you've taught me well). SMA#1 God bless Paul

[@litup4202]

Greetings from Alberta Canada Mr. O, keep up the good work . good to see a mechanic that really cares and goes that extra mile . you have a sub out of me !

[@johndoyle4723]

Nice work, thanks for explaining the system. I am UK, and I think we do not have these systems, but always good to learn. Keep up the good work, you are appreciated.

[@billyyoder8171]

Thank you Eric. Free tip Friday on a Sunday. Five days early. Sweet. I appreciate your videos. Have a good week.

[@johnhpalmer6098]

Or was that 3 days late? :-)

[@wyattoneable]

I thoroughly enjoyed the information. To see the data when it was working normally was helpful.

[@scuba422123]

good testing on the purge...new phasers.... bank 1 cam and rockers too

[@Ouremovies12]

It would be great if there was someone as honest and helpful as you are in Calgary Alberta. SMA rocks.

[@mikecont9742]

Great Diagnosis. Thanks for taking time to teach us.

[@dennistrujillo4521]

This video saved me a lot of headache and money

[@rrmech11]

excellent evap diagnosis

[@davidkroth]

Sunday night SMA. That's pretty cool!

[@av8tore71]

Sticking your hand with the needles is a great video

[@rahrah8076]

Almost time to come out with south main auto repair automotive DVDs with all of the videos you have created..everyone will want to buy them

[@SmittySmithsonite]

Great stuff as usual! I mounted and balanced 24 tires yesterday - that time of year again. I'd rather be diag'ing a FoMoCo EVAP leak! I was also handed a spaghetti mess of a plow wiring harness I need to hook up, then figure out from a box of parts what is needed to make a plow work ... a plow that isn't on the truck. Guess I can imagine it ... 😁 Got some figuring to do ...

[@Automotive_Solutions]

Every tools got a hammer side! Nice video as always. 👍

[@xtoolman957]

Thanks for the video. My truck’s been giving me the same message. Now I know what to look for.

[@jamesflores9155]

Love watching your videos this just helped me on my 2012 F 150

[@bzerob3400]

Ive been binge watching your videos and I try to diagnose the problem in the beginning of the videos before you find the problem and so far im 1 for 30. Not great

[@Graham_Wideman]

Very informative as usual. That said, this is the kind of video where you (Eric) employ reasoning and technique involving several parts of a system that may be slightly mysterious to viewers, in which a quick white-board-of-knowledge would double the interest and education. I for one have not been entirely clear on how the gas tank, evap canister, the purge valve and intake manifold relate, and what part does what during what phase of operation. And how that does or doesn't relate to systems that seem to have a dedicated vacuum pump to test gas tank leaks.

[@JohnTheFrugalFatGuy]

You are about as famous as one can hope for. From another automotive site with a Denali on the rack: "I'm not going to Eric O this thing".

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Light is flickering and dimming working great so is the scan tool working great

[@sneakysnake109]

Nice one Eric. Thanks for sharing!

[@reecenewton3097]

Good to see on a Sunday night!

[@monkeynuttzgarage9111]

Good job Eric. Love the content as always. Just had a catastrophe with my jeep. Replaced hub bearings and I boogered up the threads on the axle nut on removal. Love rusty parts. Got it changed but it cost me an axle.

[@kalkhoven89]

Awesome easy test for direction. Thanks for the short little video

[@SteveRobReviews]

My 2010 F150 with the 4.6 seems to be built quite different. Nice one Eric 👍

[@majornofun1503]

another thing that can cause the evap code is a dirty seal in the capless fuel fill neck. i have had this happen on my 13 explorer and my 2010 f150. used the out of gas adapter and WD-40 to clean and refresh the seal. the explorer required the use of a rag as well which is pretty difficult to do but it beats replacing the fill neck.

[@Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt]

Do you clear the codes after or let the computer do that on its own? Also i’m getting P0442. Thank you

[@majornofun1503]

@@Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt cleared the codes and waited to see if it set codes again. you really have to jam the fuel funnel in there like 90 times after spraying the WD-40 a bunch in-between thrusts. It might also be the purge valve though if it doesn't clear after 3 full drive cycles and you have a good seal at the inlet.

[@Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt]

@@majornofun1503 Appreciate you responding and that’s great info you shared too about the drive cycle. Thanks again

[@rogerabernathy2158]

my wife thinks im crazy i i wach at least two a day , keep it up

[@hanskinslo326]

Eric O., in the know! Another good show!

[@Motham51]

I heard the Brake Clean train!

[@SouthMainAuto]

Choo Choooo!

[@Mike.Rowphone]

The train Tooted as a thank you .. Made completely out of used brake cleaner cans ... Took a month to construct

[@throttlebottle5906]

I'm thinking he has a giant tank out back :))

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Great video Eric

[@mikechiodetti6737]

Great Video! I used to be able to do that test with the Ford IDS and "MAKE" the system pull a vacuum to check the pressure sensor.

[@yepblaze9977]

Experience counts a lot.. I was hoping for the smoke machine, but the "smack it with a tool" test won that one

[@ODCDragon88]

I did see the light dim during the test for sure.

[@charlieb3032]

Brilliant job!! Thanks for the video!!

[@1970chevelle396]

You need to come to the Sema Show this year. Your buddy will be there.

[@mosads2986]

EXCELLENT JOB WELL DONE 👏

[@stanleydinkins5112]

Thx ! I just saw this popped up in my scree. Thx

[@ronaldpierce4087]

Awesome job bro.

[@whirlwind8825]

The o2 exhaust sensor code was from when you disconnected the vacuum line performing the test. Nice way to end the weekend with a good South Main Auto video. Nice informative video.

[@Jamplay703]

As always. You the man!

[@felipevargas1176]

You are the best my friend

[@Donnybrook10]

hey, love your channel. Just found you recently. I live not too far away east of Corning. I'm going to call for an appt and have you look at my Tundra. I have an intermittent check engine light every time it rains. EVAP codes saying it's a gas cap...which it isn't. I also would like to have the underside sprayed to resist rusting and stop whatever rust is already there. Talk to you soon.

[@elcheapo5302]

A new code? Did that thing just break before our very eyes? 😂 Nicely done, Mr. O.

[@Tedybear315]

It's a ford....get used to it.....

[@TheDaf95xf]

The magic of Eric O sweet 😀🇬🇧

[@dougking7592]

Very good info sir

[@jeanvi52]

Wonder if Eric first put a new cap on it then soon realized it wasn’t the problem. Boom new video haha

[@mattmanyam]

On the *capless* filler?? How would he do that?

[@jeanvi52]

Yea whatever that part is green and has the little flapper that never get covered on the opening to the gas filler

[@javielitous]

I wonder if the o2 sensor code pops up because you just forced those fuel gases into the intake without the truck doing it itself. I wonder if it starts a sequence when it uses the evap system where it knows afr eill go to crap so ignore the sensor until it's done with the test. By doing it manually you're probably testing the solenoid itself and not commanding a check thus the truck reading rich rather than normal 14.7:1 or whatever it is for that truck on idle. Regardless, great video!! I like how people like you explain things so we can save time and money chasing gremlings! Keep it up bro!!!! Watching from PR!!!

[@roadkill5333]

Oh my!! You got one on Ivan!! That's pretty funny. How ever, I'm not pulling him off of you!! Lol

[@randyhughes5160]

Good information thanks

[@dougkubash8673]

One of our 2014 F-150's with the 5.0 Coyote had the 'ck. fuel inlet' message come up. I didn't have the scan tool with and I was out on the road. For the hell of it I took a 1/2 " pipe nipple , cut the threads off one end , put a coating of oil on it and inserted it in the fuel fill. Didn't hear nothing from the driver for about 6 months and the message came back. It ended up being the gas fill neck.

[@Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt]

Great idea! Gonna keep that one in my back pocket…do you recall the code? Mine is P0442. Did the code clear itself once you inserted the nipple? I know the fuel inlet valves are prone to having sealing issues due to debris. I plan to smoke test it but if it turns out to be the filler hose I may have to stop by the local hardware and stock up on those nipples lol thanks

[@jimmydeen58]

Another Great Video.. Thanks Eric O....

[@63256325N]

Thanks for the video.

[@andrewevanoff1192]

BFH (big hammer) to the rescue! LOL Thanks for the video.

[@robertfinnerty7201]

As usual great video

[@christopherarteaga2224]

Thank you for all u do !

[@thefordmaniac]

Have you given your 4.6 a hug today? I need to give my 4.2 v6 one. She's been starting a little rough lately.

[@Rob-wc6jw]

Who's better than you! "No one!" Well I take that back Mrs. O definitely is but no one else...

[@markrup6369]

Hey Eric -- quick question. At the beginning of the vid, when you commanded the purge solenoid on (with the scan tool) and did not see a corresponding reduction in tank pressure, you concluded that either the scan tool was not working, the vacuum line was plugged or the the purge solenoid was bad. Couldn't a faulty fuel tank pressure sensor also cause the symptoms you were seeing? What allows you to rule that out right away? Thanks again for your channel, Eric. Best one on YT bar none!!!

[@hi-friaudioman]

Been binging through your videos since last night. Playing them in my sleep, not saying that you put me to sleep but I've been dreaming of broken Dodge's since I just got a free rusty Dodge Dakota from New York (I live in Florida btw and I'm not used to working on a rust bucket) and I'm getting ready to do an overhaul on it. Lol

[@lucifur999]

Poor Ivan... Getting alot of busting lately... He's got a few years behind u and Keith im guessing not insulting anyone lol... Good video mr o...

[@VWWRENCHIE]

Why the heck did they think it was a good idea to have a capless system?. This isn't NASCAR...sometimes I just don't understand the thinking of automotive engineers. Making vehicles that are planned to crap out. Good for the Dr. O biz. One of Ford's better ideas??

[@JMKady76]

The capless fillers are almost never the issue when one of these sets an EVAP code.

[@throttlebottle5906]

I see capless as, one less device to remind idiots to take the nozzle out before driving off, I have never in my lifer seen so many ripped apart hoses as of late, once gas station has 4 out of 8 ripped off!

[@thepoll599]

You had me at reach around

[@billybradyjr6008]

Josh Chrobak double handed at that

[@johnc4352]

Thanks for the Sunday night vid Mr.O, gave me something to watch other than having to watch The Walking Dead with the Mrs.

[@treeelee11]

Thanks

[@andromeda4515]

Great video, would dousing the purge valve with carb cleaner be a fix, since it's sticking but otherwise operational?

[@rashofbeatings]

You said this is a 4.6L, but the box under your elbow there says 5.4L Triton

[@defendermender4959]

Nice to see those KZbinrs have stopped calling 😒👎🏻💩

[@SouthMainAuto]

Oh yeah reminds me what's your #? Oh and do you know how to do the call forwarding thing... I'm asking for a friend 😏

[@defendermender4959]

634-5789 that’s my number- only if you need a little huggin’ though 😉

[@southjerseysound7340]

What is with Ford and them needing percussive maintenance lol....... Their old IAC was the same way,most times a little tappy tap would get it going for a little bit. I used to keep one on the truck when the town had mostly crown Vic's and I saved tons of people from having to go to a strange shop while on vacation with the tap from my lucky screwdriver. I once bet a guy $20 I'd get his car to keep from stalling in less than a minute. He said he'd give me a $100 if I could,he was shocked when it worked lol. I tried not to take it but he snuck it inside a few singles his wife put in my shirt pocket with a thank you note. Apparently another tow company had been there and was trying to get a tow to PA but didn't have the room for his 84 year old mother and him for the trip.

[@musicalgreasemonkey]

Free tip Sunday!

[@gonzgarr1592]

great tech tip but go easy on ivan lol

[@MegaThunder70]

I kept getting that on my 2011 Ford Mustang 3.7 V6 it ended up being the fuel filler neck

[@todayintheshopbanksy5904]

6:30 Every tool has a hammer side!

[@jackwalsh3912]

Mr. O when I come to NY, I'm going to bring you some conoli's

[@michaelb.5345]

Nice video little fella...

[@johnking676]

Quality diag. Thanks

[@tomjohannemann9402]

Ford F150: "Check Fuel Fill Inlet" Message On Dash - How did that ever get fixed? (I have the same problem- P0457 & P0130)

[@james1307oak]

every time i see him in that zip up hoodie, i think he's going all Gangster and wearing a chain haha. Mr. Spicy Italian haha

[@SouthMainAuto]

Haha yes! #spicyitalian

[@RJ_Taylor]

Reminds me more of Mr. Rogers. Eric’s friendly and dropping knowledge all over us. That’s right, I just compared Eric to Mr. Rogers. Boom!

[@JLK1978]

I have changed purge solenoid, charcoal canister and cleaned fuel neck gasket 4 times. Hopefully when I change the fuel neck. That fix’s my evap leak. Only getting 250 miles to a full tank of gas. Ugh.

[@eptyr12]

I am a good mechanic, however I am a tired mechanic. These videos are therapeutic

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Nice quick diag Eric! Keith would be proud! Send me that used purge solenoid I'll rebuild it for ya ;)

[@SouthMainAuto]

Fire up the wd40, it's on the way!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I got WD-40 for days xD Can you send me another can of Kroil too Eric? I'm still using that first can you gave me lol!

[@dancrovo9805]

“Early” viewer; don’t care if 1st, 20th or 5,000th. I enjoy these videos and ALWAYS watch the advertising and the video all the way through to make sure Eric gets full credit on KZbin.

[@klwthe3rd]

That's a point that i often think about but wondered why nobody else brings it up. Another great way to support the SMA channel is to let all the advertisements run so he will get full monetization on his videos. It's not as good as being a Patreon subscriber but for me it's a great way to give back to this channel. I never skip advertisements. Watching the video to the end is a given dude!

[@karladelarosa4114]

How much is it for a Ford F-150 2005 to check the fuel cap in it? My dad’s dash board says that.

[@leedress2187]

My Hyundai Santa Fe throws O2 sensor codes from the purge valve. Spent a weekend chasing codes and found the clamp to the purge line was not attached. hooked that back up, cleared codes, it's been fine ever since. no parts required.

[@bryanbeasley7772]

I subscribed

[@uzaiyaro]

I’m a shade tree, myself, so I’ve got a lot to learn, but I’m learning as I go. I am curious, why is the tank under vacuum? Is it to help with fuel delivery, or is it to stop vapours escaping, and forces them into the canister? Cheers!

[@anthonybeaudry6066]

Thats how ford checks their evap systems for leaks. it pulls a vacuum on the fuel tank with intake manifold vacuum through the vent solenoid. if it does not see the fuel tank pressure go negative it sets a code for a leak.

[@08StreetGlide]

My 2010 F-150 4.6 shows that cluster message every once and a while....I end up squirting some oil on the inlet spring (where the fuel nozzle goes) and using the manufacturers supplied funnel to operate (to work in the oil) (I could do this when I fill up and use the fuel nozzle to operate the door) and cleaning the door of debris (this helps seal the system)....clear the code with a scan tool and voila....I guess I've been lucky.....

[@tspbod260]

I had the same problem with my Acura TL, I would get the "check gas cap light " and it would randomly have a hard start because it would get stuck open which would put to much fuel vapor in the combustion chamber.