Sovereign Citizen Or Just Stupid?

[@drn13355]

“I feel” and “I don’t understand”. The two primary sov cit arguments.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Yup

[@Collageartist69]

You must prove jurisdiction.

[@scottdiamond74]

"I was traveling" 😢

[@lordraydens]

i don't stand under

[@jimsilveira2344]

But, inmate, ignorance remains no excuse

[@chasbo25]

The dude on the right shaking his head, thinking, moron, you could have this over with and walked with no fines, but you EFFed it up! was awesome.😎

[@KinniMoo]

Finding a sovcit that makes a smart choice is like finding a unicorn in your bathtub

[@VicSouders]

So... there's a chance? I'd love to find a unicorn in my bathtub!

[@LetMeStopYouRightThere-12]

😂😂

[@scottdiamond74]

🦄 💧 🛁

[@lordraydens]

@@VicSouders same!

[@michaelkaizer85]

One fact remains true... All unicorns are horny.

[@cmsxcb]

"You can't charge me for possession when you didn't stop me for possession!" No, dummy. They stopped you for something else and then FOUND it. It's like claiming "You can't charge me for the murder of the dead guy you found in the trunk if you only stopped me for a broken tail-light!"

[@slipperysloper3721]

I don’t know if anyone caught that, but this idiot has already been in jail for the last 10 months. He’s been in there 300 days (with a full head of gray hair) and still thinks the courts have no authority over him. Lmao

[@RacieRain]

🤣🤣🤣

[@hawaii_jj]

Its not that he feels like he is innocent and has every right to prove that they obviously tryna get a conviction and sweep all this under the rug so they can all get paid and move on with there lives while he gets a felony on his record he probably did have meth but the court has procedures they have to. Follow to prove that

[@Cheshyrgrin]

The judge/prosecutor is trying to let him out on a PR bond and time served but he's so in his sovcit feelings he won't let them do it. I'd say stupidly sovcit to Mike's question.

[@carter358]

So he has been in jail for ages and there's a plea deal that will allow him to go home TODAY with time served and he declined it??!! HE IS INSANE!!!

[@djvycious]

Hey Mike, I have to admit I haven't jumped on your channel for months. I am so pleased to see you're at 238k subs! Great job man and well deserved. I used to follow your videos daily during the pandemic and then, well. life happens. keep it up!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank you

[@JackDManheim]

Have you ever seen a sovereign citizen that wasn’t stupid?

[@valeriesoles2758]

Do these Sov Cits ever get it through their thick skulls that they never win? None of them. You’d think they’d figure that out.

[@Dfourteens]

These awful people only lie and deceive. They deserve addition punishment for being jerks and interrupting frequently.

[@noneayourbusiness5149]

The individual in jailroom 3 looks like if RDJ's character from Tropic Thunder was aged up.

[@UncleDansVintageVinyl]

Yes!

[@crabbyj]

😅😅😅

[@ItsChristie]

🤣🤣🤣

[@lordraydens]

never go full sovcit

[@UncleDansVintageVinyl]

@@lordraydens Never go sovcit at all!

[@GreggNewsom-v2p]

Also, Mike your selection of cases is educational to me. Since I am not a lawyer, your commentary is appreciated. I have been unaware of these sovereign people living among us that accept the social contract legally. With never had legal issues I don't miss an episode!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank you

[@HerrellHethcock]

Rather, spend 20 plus years in jail because you did not get your way. Sad

[@presterjohn9088]

"Please no dead body." "You and cars just don't get along." That's funny.

[@mikemissel7785]

That one guy looks Robert Downey Jr from Tropic Thunder and never go full sovtard and he went full sovtard.

[@lisawatson9570]

I don't see him.

[@valeriesoles2758]

Truth. And great movie

[@peterroach3377]

Confucius say man who not like being treated as a child in court shouldn't act as such

[@krakenlacken502]

Sovcits always get their stuff in the day of and expect it to be already in the record.

[@crabbyj]

Yeah...an awful legal tactic. Then again, if they didn't try stupid tactics then they wouldn't be sovcits! LOL 😅

[@NomadicInfluence]

When I get bored I come here. I’m a criminal defense attorney, so I suppose that’s high praise to Mike? Yeah… 3 cheers to Mike, everyone!

[@JiveDadson]

🎉🎉🎉

[@wilthomas]

why isn't this judge wearing robes?

[@Elhao]

"I need a bond!" No, you need to be held in contempt.

[@MaureenKerr-n9v]

Judge please don’t apologize for doing the right thing.

[@JiveDadson]

One meaning of "apology" is a detailed explanation. But I think the word is beyond that skunking.

[@johnpenn8444]

This judge is a joke. I watched him throw out a probable cause hearing after a guy ran from the police and a weapon fell from his waistband. But “no probable cause”, he was just “walking while black”. Activist joke.

[@seantimmons5900]

​@@johnpenn8444You should probably get outside some.

[@LegacyOfKane]

Darrell Brooks Sr. ?! 😂

[@kyv2100]

Your honor!!! I need to gather my witnesses in the park to prove I wasn't smoking meth! And the only way to do that is to go back to the park!

[@LoriLuvsLaw]

Hey Mike! Thanks for the great videos... 👍 I love your content. ❤ BTW... I love your lumberjack shirt. To many buttons though. 😆

[@mickeybugh]

That damn "law talk with Mike" song. I find myself singing it during the day

[@firebird6522]

"Sovereign Citizen Or Just Stupid?" What's the difference?

[@crabbyj]

Pretty much only the spelling. LOL 😅

[@firebird6522]

@@crabbyj Yep!

[@nataliecairns5330]

Sovereign Citizens are always stupid. Stupid people aren’t always Sovereign.

[@dontosaw]

All sovereign citizens are stupid, but not all stupid people are sovereign citizens.

[@SDSOne]

When he started talking I was shocked they didn't immediately let him out and apologize for the unlawful arrest. This man is a damn law expert

[@davidmuller4924]

He woke up and chose to do things the hard way the sovcit way

[@pronubcentral]

Guy in number 3- um, you honor? can I have that other idiots deal? I'll mute myself now, please proceed.

[@peterbaker3314]

Sovereign Citizen Or Just Stupid? The former usually implies the latter.

[@channel.3.]

Add FSRA to the list of things I learned from being a zoom court nerd! (Failure to stop and render aid) -DWLS (driving while license suspended or revoked: Judge Middleton) also get a lot of “No Ops” -VOP (violation of probation: comes up a lot with Judge Vann and Deputy Criminal History) -TAIP evaluation (Judge Boyd. Also no work as a home healthcare provider!) And of course all the hearing and reports - PSI, PCC, competency, final settlement, show cause, pre trial…)

[@sandrablosser9888]

And now I know FSRS is a chargeable offense!

[@roninworks3497]

Holy hell, they offer him a sweat heart deal that the DA should be ashamed of offering, and nope, gotta scream and say no to the deal, etc. Bruh.

[@richardclaus4751]

I feel sorry for the guy in Rm 3. He sees the judge being irritated and he must be saying in his mind "shut up brother".

[@KathleenPatterson-g9r]

What jurisdiction is sitting his butt in jail? Seems rather obvious.

[@franktripodi8586]

Are all sovereign citizens really stupid? They go to court and this sovereign manure never works, yet they still push it, they get held in contempt or have their car windows smashed, how stupid are they?

[@lauxmyth]

He is in jail. Surprised the camera can be moved by inmate. Surprised an officer is not monitoring and did not come in to set the camera down.

[@netherstar623]

That was an officer moving it around.

[@Tam58851520]

Jurisdiction - Yo El El Fool Bey look where ya are my sovereign dude, they have TOTAL jurisdiction over ya. Sov boy, a Notary means only 1 thing - you are indeed the person signing. Now he's a Whiny Sov Boy .... Nobody's listening to my fallacious mumbo jumbo.😭.

[@P1ss3d0ffVoter]

Is the guy in jail Robert Downey Jr. from Tropic Thunder?

[@jan_vyhnak]

Survive!

[@batesamyjo]

And best of all, you weren’t kidnapped!

[@cygnustsp]

Dude took this way too personal

[@maryluhughes]

When fellow inmates look at you like you have lost your mind…

[@schwabrichard9829]

If they left his cell door open he would walk out and go home?

[@MartinRuiz-hm9qj]

This is a a articulode suspicion

[@VincePinto]

When he says "it's ARRvious" it sounds like he was advised by Darrell Brooks.

[@carolecaudill4962]

The other dude is listening and internalizing this cell mate’s knowledge .

[@tiffanyholman4028]

I wish Judge Fleisher could come give my teenage son a pep talk/threats while I teach him how to drive. I've begged, instructed, and threatened, but it would make a better impact coming from Fleisher. (If anyone doesn't hear from me in the near future, contact the PD.) 😂😅😢

[@crabbyj]

😅😅😅

[@moosecat]

I understand why the goat screams...it screams for us, and all the brain cells that we lose listening to Egg McMullets like these.

[@cjeatmon1520]

Wow. It's the Geico caveman.

[@porkchop6714]

Sovereign Citizen Or Just Stupid? Tomato Tomato

[@KendraAndTheLaw]

boff

[@LoriLuvsLaw]

Tomato tomatoe

[@ScottW-vz4bf]

😂😂😂

[@hollydennison159]

Love the "Traveling" song!!!!!❤❤😅😂

[@AirQuotes848]

Dumb wasting court time 😮

[@valeriesoles2758]

I agree the guy on the bottom right is hilarious. His face says it all.

[@maryluhughes]

The guy in room 3!!! 😂

[@ohiopommom3314]

I'm glad you had a good trip!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank You

[@DebraJean196]

Glad you had a great trip! Great clip too! Lawyer and judge double teamed Sov Cidiot as well as any DEFENSE attorney and judge I’ve ever see. Lol

[@lauxmyth]

Someday, I want a judge to go hard. “This Court has jurisdiction for the type of offence under consideration. If you feel the events happened outside our geographic area, file a motion to move this trial of a different Court.”

[@netherstar623]

That is something sovcits will never understand. In most cases, if they ever did manage to prove the court did not have jurisdiction, the case would simply be moved to a court that *does* have jurisdiction.

[@wilthomas]

sometimes they will. you're challenging jurisdiction, fine, submit your motion and shut up

[@netherstar623]

@wilthomas A proper challenge to jurisdiction is another thing sovcits will never understand. 😆 "I ChaLLenGe jUrisDIctiON!" (Now he has to dismiss the charges.)

[@nancypeck2803]

I love Judge Fleischer. Overall he listens, tries to teach your failing future and consequences but jails you if unable to get through to idiots.

[@spacecaptainseth213]

law talk with michael i enjoy your videos quite a bit. interesting listens even when i cant watch while at work

[@lindaalbano6868]

How can people be so stupid. They were to let him out on his own. I'm glad I'm not a lawyer

[@chasallallbright4877]

Did you all see the tattoo on his forehead. Says FOOL

[@robertplatt1693]

Lester really hit the skids after Willie Tyler dumped him.

[@glenssonoma]

#2 reminds me of Tim the tool man's neighbor. The neighbor who never shows his mouth. I think his name was wilson.

[@kimstelly9480]

Awww, idiots. They are so precious. 😂🤣😂🤣😅🤣

[@DavidEdmundForrester]

Listening to Mr. Lester, one wonders if his stupidity causes his anger or vice versa. Not sure it matters since he is clearly both.

[@moonprincessRN]

He should be made to show his face.

[@heatherleighartistry]

I’m reading your title and I’m thinking it can be both. 😂

[@mrbrpaul]

Does Michigan have a higher amount of sov cits compared to other states?

[@kieronparr3403]

Thats a stupidly good offer.

[@pampvamp]

OH this trial is gonna be good!! All these Sov Cit cases become mini movies. 🍿

[@haroldshankle706]

The guy beside him looks like he's about to cry.

[@KJacobson-m9v]

Yes! I need some solid sov cit bs to take my brain away!

[@helgafrahmann4201]

No meth nessesary!!

[@Reviloj]

What did he say about “his lawyer?” I thought they didn’t contract with the state? I guess when reality sets in the non sovcit rules don’t look so weak.

[@mdrake42]

Does anybody else get Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder vibes from the inmate lower right, jailzoom3. 😂

[@joshc441]

Dummy could’ve been out if he took the agreement. You can’t teach common sense

[@tailblazerstv]

Make him fix his camera ..can’t stand when they let these losers control the court..we all need to see who we never want to rent to , employ, or befriend

[@wujumpa]

So, the state was willing to give him a sweetheart deal... maybe there is a little truth to what he was saying?

[@tanjajohnson4659]

I wish I could send our judges to Michigan to give sovcit response classes. Here, when they challenge jurisdiction, they are told that they will have to address that to the appeals court. If they start interrupting with ANY motion that has been addressed, they are told that if they cannot conduct themselves within the court rules, they will not be permitted to represent themselves. When they start the "I do not understand" routine, they are informed that if they are unable to understand the basic statements of the court, then they are not competent to represent themselves. The second "I do not understand" on an already repeated matter and the judge will then advise them that with their repeated inability to understand the proceedings, they will not be permitted to represent themselves, and an attorney is appointed to represent them. If they become disruptive, they are informed that if they persist, they will be moved to an adjoining room where they can observe the proceedings, and if they become disruptive their microphone will be turned off, until they can conduct themselves appropriately. That is it. Each proceeding, and each session during a day, they are given an opportunity to return to the courtroom, and admonished that any disruption will result in them being removed for the rest of that session. PERIOD. I guess it would be boring for youtube, but it makes our courts move along very well.

[@maryholden3136]

The guy on the right looks like he's trying to pass a camel out of the eye of his needle

[@cherylcarnes4207]

You're so entertaining Mike. Thank you.

[@GreggNewsom-v2p]

I have wondered about the man led away and tased after telling judge he didn't have jurisdiction over him. Will he emerge with a different attitude when his next time with judge Fletcher, or is further tasing needed for bad behavior and disrespecting a judge?

[@xcrockery8080]

I want to see the arrest video to see him lawfully resisting an unlawful arrest.

[@1776Tammy]

Why was he out on bond in the first place?

[@mjmorrill081]

I agree Mexico is a beautiful country. The food is absolutely delicious!

[@dtg1032]

He likely did the thing, but I disagree with keeping an unreasonable bond unless he pleas. Bond is to ensure return and/or public safety. How do either of those change by plea agreement?

[@4hasnain]

The judge going “Please no dead body “ is pure troll. This judge has no chill

[@JiveDadson]

Furthermore, he wears a bow tie with a business suit without a matching propeller beanie.

[@serinthia]

I like the first judge. Bow ties are cool.

[@l.s.3704]

Dude looks and sounds like Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder

[@larrycutler4]

What color is the shirt the defendant wearing? It goes to his argument.🤣

[@petercase9583]

# 3 is catatonic

[@maryholden3136]

He picked up a felony .......did the guy walking in front drop it?

[@Blue-zw8er]

As sharp as a pound of wet leather.

[@nathancombs11]

The next guy up is hopeing he duse not make the juge have a bad day 😂

[@lynnefeldman1301]

Another KZbin lawyer member of your local bar

[@KJacobson-m9v]

Dude on right just decided public defender is the way to go!

[@nathancombs11]

ANY lawer 😂

[@lesclark1448]

Aren’t sov cit and stupid the same thing?

[@lauxmyth]

It is only correlation. I would think the r value at about 0.995 or higher 19 times out of 20.

[@steen8156]

This guy goes for hot air balloon rides and vacations in Mexico City. Next stop is parkour in Argentina? A jungle tour in a kayak up the Nile?

[@chasbo25]

You didn;t go to the northern Garden State boarder towns below CA, AZ and TX? The Cartel would love to meet LTWM! They love following the law! And they are really nice guys when not beheading people!🤣

[@user-rw2dq3vp9t]

i just cant see mr lester resisting arrest, he seems sooooo reasonable....im kidding

[@Tony74665]

In the the Uk most traffic offences are dealt with by number recognition cameras and the mail . I’m sure they must have the same in the USA . It would save all this nonsense.

[@jackson_68]

USA has likewise. But the ticket can still be challenged in court.

[@barelyasurvivor1257]

Why not both? They are not mutually exclusive.