Soviet Cosmism (The First Transhumanists)

[@JohnDonlea4748]

This might interest you. It seems that Evald Ilyenkov did not endulge into eugenic phantasies as some other cosmists (though I don't know his stance on the purges in the Soviet Union). On his russian wikipedia page I found this small paragraph: "Since the late 1960s, Ilyenkov participated in the experiments conducted by A. I. Meshcheryakov at the Zagorsky boarding school for deaf-blind children (now Sergiev Posad). Ilyenkov wrote a number of works in which he substantiated that even the blind and deaf from birth can eventually become full-fledged members of society with the proper method of upbringing and education. One of his students, the deaf-blind A. V. Suvorov, managed to graduate from the Psychology Department of Moscow State University and subsequently defended his PhD and doctoral dissertations."

[@samuell4775]

It is impressive that so many creative types were drawn to this philosophy.

[@ingeteloo3065]

wow... I knew abt Bogdanov and Prolekult but had no idea abt this movement. It is fascinating that these ideas were important to swaying much of the intelligentsia towards revolution. makes me think abt the importance of a sort of "spiritualism" in revolutionary culture and the united front, but in the case of the soviets, the spiritualism embedded in their early intelligentsia was rly problematic and idealist in a lot of ways, and i wonder if even contributed to some of the dogmatism we would later see in soviet science... so there is a need for building this spiritualism consciously to have an organic connection to real scientific thought and materialism.

[@armando5362]

Just found this channel out, love it!!!

[@foodchewer]

These are really fascinating videos. I would love to see more material on the Soviets from you.

[@exalted_kitharode]

Thanks. I hope you'll keep it up!

[@operarioribeiro]

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[@quotenpunk279]

Now i have to install stellaris again. :D ASCENSION !

[@dandanovich6729]

I heavily advise you to read "The Bull's Hour" by Yefremov. Though it may be unavailable in English, unfortunately. It sums up a lot of cosmists view and mixes them with the general communist ideas with a huge Yungian and Frankfurt school influx. Also minus eugenics

[@Semtex_1992]

Eugenics research should be included in it though surely? Rather than throw endless mo ey at medicine to keep citizens as lifelong patients on drugs, why not study eugenics to discover how we can eradicate cancers and diseases from life, prolong life etc. People hear eugenics and automatically freak out and I don't get why.

[@mikelnomikos]

unintentional asmr

[@christopherellis2663]

A cautionary tale 🤔 Infantile fantasies for the future. 🖖

[@johnsinclair4621]

What exactly is supposed to be infantile about this? From the moment I found out about this ideas I was deeply in love with it. Apart from the eugenics of course.

[@hashkangaroo]

> the entire world must be resurrected to live in the socialist utopia > molecules can experience pain, therefore all life must be wiped out and replaced with ubermensch > blood transfusion will make you immortal > putting things together and separating them again is just like time travel, I swear!1! > guys, politics is secretly controlled by the SUN!!! > let's destroy the past and how dare the sun limit my ability to see things!?!!? > time repeats and the current universe was made by humanity in a previous universe > ten different shades of eugenics on top of that John, is this your king?

[@ket_boofer]

​@@johnsinclair4621the eugenics are what make all this possible

[@johnsinclair4621]

@@ket_boofer Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

[@duckpotat9818]

@@ket_boofer not necessarily, you don’t need selective breeding for transhumanism. Genetic engineering, cybernetic implants and advanced pharmaceuticals can do a much better job.

[@samuelpalmer8305]

Summary: if you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS

[@hydra7427]

I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand that quickly. A lot of this is early 20th century science fiction and should be viewed in that milieu. Compare HG Wells War of the Worlds, a very cosmist book in its own right, which has a lot of suspect scientific and political viewpoints but none of which diminish its thought provoking value.

[@wobblebottom3632]

Not BS. Many of these men were at the forefront of medical, theological, and rocket technology. If I remember correctly one was the leading founder and leading figure for Soviet Russia's space program and another was a pioneer and early advocate of blood transfusions. Certainly not men who should be taken lightly and definitely worthy of discussion with the dawn of synthetic biology.

[@zardonicz]

@@wobblebottom3632Can you explain exactly what you mean by “theological technology”

[@lost1ns0und]

long live the soviet regime 🚩🚩

[@tikimandude112]

No thanks, I choose life

[@Interlocutor67]

@@tikimandude112, American consumer finance capitalism is a crappy life though.

[@katyn_was_based14]

You mean suc*ing the co*k of capitalist oligarchs in the west? Understood😂😂​@@tikimandude112

[@hashkangaroo]

long live whatever regime rightfully ignores the idiots mentioned in the video

[@jasonkinzie8835]

@@Interlocutor67 Its better than life in a gulag.