Soviet Spy Plot Behind Mysterious Flight 007 Disaster | MARATHON

[@MaydayAirDisaster]

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[@housemana]

production really has increased. i appreciate that. it is increasingly rare that shows keep their dignity and their quality these days, much less push the limits. bravo to that.

[@DarkerThanBlack88]

😂 technically this is a re-upload it’s an old episode from season 9 they are on season 24 now this show has always had decent production quality though its appears on a multitude of Networks: National Geographic, Smithsonian Channel, Discovery Channel, 21st Century Fox, plus many more

[@zachhoward9099]

I believe Yuri Andropov who had been the former head of the KGB was First Secretary of the USSR when this happened, he was super paranoid of the US and especially the US under Reagan. The Soviet system was convinced of an American attack at any time. Honestly it’s amazing this didn’t start WW3

[@kevinmalone3210]

I remember when this happened, while tragic to say the least, the US government used this incident for progranda purposes, damning the Soviets, saying they knew it was a passenger plane, but shot it down anyway. Even Reagan called, the Soviet Union, an Evil Empire. It was an accident. The Soviets were paranoid about any unidentified aircraft violating their airspace. It was for them, a matter of national security and that's what they would do if an unidentified aircraft flew into their airspace.

[@scootermom1791]

I'm surprised, too. Our government could have told them to return the tapes unaltered or else.... I'm sure they couldn't prove the USSR had gotten to the tapes to steal them. But if we had made the USSR believe we would attack them in retaliation, I believe they would have finally returned the tapes.

[@scootermom1791]

They didn't do a good job authenticizing the tapes, either. If the tapes appeared at first glance that the seal was intact, then they should have added they realized they were wrong when they found the tapes had been spliced. Clearly the Soviets attempted to hide the fact that they accessed the tapes to begin with. And because they spliced the tapes and because of the tensions between the US and the USSR. I have difficulty believing the tapes weren't altered to cover up the Soviet's involvement in this "accident." I think they realized it was a passenger jet in their airspace and struck it down anyway.

[@scootermom1791]

​@@kevinmalone3210well, Reagan was right. Communists, and everyone who supports Communism, are absolutely 100% evil. They lied to their own people after the communists took over (gasp!). Farms that belonged to Russian families for generations were essentially stolen from them. The communist party made farmers give the best of their goods to the government. If the farmers didn't produce enough for both the government and their families, oh well! The families had to starve to death. "Enough" was subject to whatever the government wanted to say was "enough" BTW. That's just one example of the torture inflicted on a people who were misguided enough to believe communism was better than having a monarchy or a free country. If that's not evil, idk what is!

[@scootermom1791]

I'm surprised there was no retaliation from the US. They should have threatened to attack the USSR unless they produced the tapes. I know they probably couldn't prove that the Soviets had them, but I think if they'd made the Soviets believe they were going to be attacked, they would have "suddenly" found the tapes and handed them over. Regardless, the tapes would have been altered by then anyway (see my comment above).

[@davidniemi4051]

In 1983 GPS was not available to airlines or to be used for navigation from what I remember, and while Reagan authorized it's used for civilian navigation it was quite a while before units became available then time for adoption.

[@mattiemathis9549]

I entered the military in 91. I entered federal law enforcement in 98. I remember we could buy our own GPS from Garmin, but the maps for each area was insanely expensive. And this was before 9/11 so it was a heck of a pay cut going from E-4 to GS-5. Nobody could afford that stuff. I think around 2003 was when GPS became available in my field of work. I know that has nothing to do with aviation, but I like to think people who fly hundreds of other people around everyday have more advanced stuff than I did. Because they are responsible for way more lives.

[@markandrews200]

The fact that the Soviets went on full alert expecting an attack, proves they knew what they did. I remember this vividly.

[@dan797]

The US government had surveillance equipment on board flight 007

[@markandrews200]

​@@dan797please site your sources with direct reference notes.

[@BahreNeGash]

​@@markandrews200 The information you are looking for is most likely buried in "National Security" vaults in Washington & Moscow, void of public disclosure.

[@thefrase7884]

Ever hear of Able Archer ‘83? The Soviets were convinced the West was preparing an attack against them. They weren’t going to verify anything. They were in the “ask questions later” mode

[@thefrase7884]

@@markandrews200……he’ll never be able to find sources on that. The South Koreans wouldn’t do that. They would never allow US military equipment on one of their commercial passenger flights

[@K000H]

I can't imagine that trauma of thinking you're doing your job protecting your country by shooting down a spy plane, and then finding out it was a regular passenger plane mistakenly off course. Absolutely awful.

[@artsykai]

@K000H absolutely, I wouldn't be surprised if he lays at night thinking about it

[@TUPELO_HUNNY]

They probably patted themselves on the back. Traumatized? Hardly

[@dritantahiraj3830]

Nah people aint that cold when he found out it would killed him mentally​@@TUPELO_HUNNY

[@yobgow]

He has said many times he has no regrets.

[@AnthonyRufo-rc1zm]

I'm surprised a computer alert didn't prevent them from putting in the wrong coordinates. Preflight navigation checks are crucial when flying close to restricted airspace.

[@peanutbutterisfu]

It was the early 80’s they didn’t have gps like we do now unfortunately

[@dark3out3side3]

There's a reason they're referred to as "Tombstone Regulations"

[@goo1358]

​@@peanutbutterisfu GPS existed but it was strictly for military planes. Regan made gps globally available after this incident

[@kevinbeare745]

They had the proper coordinates, but failed to switch the system to INS mode instead of COMPASS heading. Not a computer issue.

[@leehawk7068]

The coordinates was entered correctly the way points was being displayed on the navigation display it was because the waypoints was still being displayed as normal is one of the reasons the pilots didn't notice it was just not connected to the autopilot due to it not being set to INS

[@wizzardofpaws2420]

They were so wrong for this. They should have clarified this plane FIRST.

[@vortex162]

All the training is useless if you forget to implement it, should have/could have doesn't exist only reality!

[@TheReaperHunter]

The Soviet Union wasn't exactly known for "double checking"

[@BahreNeGash]

​@@TheReaperHunter How did the KAL crew fail to "double check" the plane's flight operations, even after the Soviet Union Air Force warning shots?

[@kurotsuki7427]

It was potentially war. It happens. Its very very tragic when it does. But it happens. It still happens even now.

[@BahreNeGash]

​@@kurotsuki7427 Unfortunately, the innocent defenseless people get to pay their precious lives for the egotistical ambitions & miscalculated adventure of warlords on the criminal mission to conquer the world. It's too bad the human race continues to serve war criminals, & remains condemned to be expendable cannon fodder.

[@jimwednt1229]

So the Soviets didn't bother to try and radio contact and intercept wayward planes over their airspace.

[@johnryder557]

Yea I think that's the point but their response would probably would be it was a spy plane disguised as a commercial airplane

[@peanutbutterisfu]

Yeah why not atleast contact them, they can say they are civilians, they force them to land to inspect them, even take all the luggage everything but the shirts on their backs they could have easily figured out it was a mistake. They didn’t have tracer rounds, maybe a bright flashlight or anything to warn the plane.

[@suizided]

Oooooof course it's the Soviet's fault.

[@Revikra]

In 1983 the USSR didnt care. Disguised spy planes were more of a concern than civilians, especially in their airspace. Shoot first and maybe ask questions later. This episode did a good job presenting how tense the political atmosphere was back then. Having said that, decades after the fall of the Iron Curtain, I'm inclined to believe Putin's Russia still has low concern non-combative civilian casualties. How does the U.S. react to invasion of its airspace? I guess nowadays let any ol' balloon float on its way. But that's another topic altogether.

[@mattiemathis9549]

I understand the sentiment but before you throw stones, look at Iran Air flight 655. During the cold war lots of innocent people died. I’m not judging anyone, but I grew up during those days, it was different. I wouldn’t want to live in a communist state, but they aren’t the only ones who did sketchy stuff.☮️

[@Musician_Robert]

Probably why all planes now show screens with way points on them.

[@Nick51100]

@@Musician_Robert nah this is when gps was only a military thing. Things were very analog back in those times

[@ivanstepanovic1327]

As for KAL007... A couple of things not mentioned here: 1) The airspace it entered was RESTRICTED and on all maps marked as "avoid, they shoot first and ask questions later here" because of Soviet military bases located there. 2) RC-135 is manufactured by - Boeing! Some of the parts are shared with 747 and have similar silhouette, especially in the dark and from behind and below...

[@leehawk7068]

It was mentioned a few times that the plane had entered restricted / Soviet airspace And there are a good few differences between a commerical aircraft and a military aircraft Commercial aircraft have to have all the lights such as nav lights the red strobe light as well as having the tail lit up the tail light to highlight the airliners logo / name There are several other methods the fighter pilot could have seen it to be a commercial airliner The reality is the orcs are just obsessively paranoid and think anything and everyone is an enemy They just shot down the aircraft without doing proper methods most likely because they are in a rush due to it leaving their airspace well they still took it down when it had already left the airspace

[@alexz120100]

Bro killed innocent people and he copes by still claiming its a spy plane what a pos

[@NickChigozie]

It was a mistake

[@alexz120100]

@@NickChigozie yes, it was but take responsibility for your mistake. Dude still believes it was a spy plane and Innocent people weren't killed

[@samcords7389]

Finally, at least one new episode.

[@stevek343]

I wouldn't doubt it 😮

[@EmeryE2]

@@241156canhe means a new episode uploaded by ACI channel, they always reupload slits good to have a new one.

[@vortex162]

Watched it years ago!

[@dan797]

Sorry to disappoint you I’ve seen this episode several times.

[@KSE828]

Not new

[@dmanaigre]

I watch enough of these videos, and something tells me I should never fly at night! lol.

[@cail171]

I wont fly over the ocean ever lol

[@kevinmalone3210]

Watching these videos will do that.

[@TomMcHugh-l4v]

Agreed I feel the same way. MH370, Air France 445, Egypt Air 990, Swiss Air 111 also at night. I used to worry less.....

[@khalexi8692]

At night and near mountains lol.

[@frankh.5378]

Or bad weather

[@Coppertomyesir]

Rip people on board in plane

[@AudioFileZ]

I remember when this occurred. It was extremely shocking. Especially because Dr. Larry McDonald, one of the passengers, was previously a practicing medial doctor my wife's family used and even worked for in his early political aspirations. Congressman McDonald was a conservative Hawk who spoke out against Communism forcefully. This made for high irony that it turned out to be The Soviets who killed McDonald along with all Flight 007's crew and passengers. As far as I ever knew, there was no definitive rationale ever found for the KAL plane to deviate so much from its flight plan? This clarifies that.

[@BahreNeGash]

​@@BabyJesus-nz4nm And US spy plane is flying by the KLA doomed civilian airplane, alarming Soviet Air Force.

[@kevinmalone3210]

The reason was the pilot(s) made an error putting the correct coordinates into the nav-computer, and didn't double check to see if they were on the right flight path by making sure they were crossing their way points. It doesn't mean of course they deserved to be shot down, but flying over Soviet airspace in that time was dangerous for unidentified aircraft.

[@BahreNeGash]

​@@kevinmalone3210 How could a distinguished pilot & experienced crew miss their usual route to fly on safe airspace? But why was a US air force spy plane intruding into a Soviet air space, flying in the same route as the KLA-007 passenger plane, diverting into Soviet sensitive military air space? How are the Soviets to know which plane is a military or civilian airplane? How did the KAL Pilot fail to see the Soviet Air Force airplane, flying next to his airplane. Why did the KAL Pilot fail to heed the warning shots from the Soviet air force pilot? Obviously, the US military is covering up the mysterious conspiracy behind the KAL shot down.

[@shaider1982]

​@@BahreNeGash Captain Edward Smith was experienced yet look at what happened to the Titanic. Same here. Don't spread conspiracy theories.

[@BahreNeGash]

Titanic colluded with deep rooted mountain of snowstorm made into rocky iceberg overnight, depriving the captain enough time to divert & avoid the ship from direct collision with the iceberg. The captain had no warning alarms nor external information on impending collusion with the iceberg. Unfortunately, this pilot & his crew had every opportunity to heed the warning signals & avoid the intrusion into sensitive Russian airspace, which may had been translated into spy plane & surveillance mission by the Russians who shot down the KLA.

[@kevinquist]

remember this like it was just last week.

[@TerriHoughhumoo]

Me too😢

[@patrickcallahan9599]

I had a friend from college heading home to Osaka on the plane... felt bad for the families

[@maccaloube]

Me too, a friend from Montreal. I was devastated when I heard about the crash as I had recommended that flight that I took myself a couple of years before. R.I.P. Pierre Francois D.M.

[@thefrase7884]

Fun fact. The Soviet pilot that shot them down wasn’t Russian. He was Lithuanian

[@fanufcmma]

@@thefrase7884 fun fact the pilot could have also been Uzbek since Uzbekistan and Lithuania were part of USSR

[@JenVanVeelo]

First of all- isnt it regulated that,if you enter foreign airspace that you inform them??? You cannot go and just shoot an airplane down!

[@user-ly2lp2bc7e]

Flight 007 wasn’t an accident. I’m surprised Soviet, not the pilot, didn’t get held responsible.

[@TheShockwaveDragon]

They wouldn't have paid or acknowledged responsibility even if you tried; they frequently denied or rejected outright any implications of fault such as during the submarine collision disaster.

[@isamumizuta9226]

@@user-ly2lp2bc7e that’s probably why the black boxes were kept hidden. I’m surprised they weren’t destroyed.

[@kevinmalone3210]

The pilots had checkpoints that were indicating to them they were off course, but unfortunately, they never realized this.

[@Herowebcomics]

The Russians should have flown up to where the pilots could see them! They would then change course!😡

[@Gaius_Sinstone]

So the pilot was “terrified for his life” over a plane that was heading straight toward international waters. okay

[@richardtwat8803]

That's so russian

[@ShrekJo-we2st]

​@@richardtwat8803 You ought to say, that's so American.. A US Navy Ship fired a missile at an Iranian commercial plane killing all onboard..

[@susannoel6396]

Big companies need to wake up about trying to save costs when it comes to people's safety. When things go bad it will cost them a great deal more money and a huge embarrassment. It isn't worth it!

[@BahreNeGash]

Your documentary investigations & independent reports are very informative. Keep up the great work. 👍

[@randyreynolds1045]

Sad tale of errors😢

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

I remember this event well. In senior year of high school we got the news during study hall. It was a huge deal! This was during the time we feared of being nuked by the USSR at any moment.

[@lethabrooks9112]

Its a shame airlines didnt install anti-missile direct infrared counter measures on Commercial Aircraft during the Cold War. Only 1 airline in the world has counter measure systems on its jets which Israeli EL AL airlines. Fed Ex has proposed installing them on their aircraft as well.

[@brigidtheirish]

Would probably have resulted in the USSR freaking out even more.

[@lethabrooks9112]

​​@@brigidtheirishWho knows with them? Different countries have different protocols on how they handle planes flying unauthorized in their airspace. Im suprised the Russians didnt get on the radio and try to contact the pilots and say Hey! What are you doing here? You are not authorized in this airspace please return to your designated flight path at such and such coordinates or you will be fired upon! Yes the U.S. may have picked up the transmission but its not like the soviets didnt scan our transmissions too. And the soviet pilot couldve escorted the commercial jet to where it shouldve been.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@lethabrooks9112 You're surprised the *USSR* didn't try *talking* before shooting a civilian plane out of the sky? Oh, you sweet summer child.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@BabyJesus-nz4nm Here's the difference. The US navy was actively engaging enemy combatants. Not sure national borders matter much during a battle. The airport the civilian plane took off from was also used for *military* planes. The ship's radar identified the plane as *military* for several seconds because its transponder overlapped with a military plane right behind it. Even with that identification, the ship *tried to contact* the plane *several times* with no response. The ship's radar operator misread some data, coming to the incorrect conclusion that the plane was diving toward them. The captain waited until the last second, when all attempts to contact the plane failed, before ordering an attack. Should the crew have gotten medals? No. Aside from the panicked radar operator, though, none of them did anything wrong, either.

[@ThePuppywolf]

@@BabyJesus-nz4nm I dont disagree with you, but put one thing for some context. Media bias with Geo-Political spin. The west in the 80's would take anything to make them look better than the Soviets, in the 90's the west took many steps to preserve their "Defender of Justice" role. I am a former US Military serviceman and I have seen such in the past. Truth is often less "Valuable" than The Right Answer.

[@chrisstevenson5378]

Great to see a new episode for a change. I'm burnt out from the oldies.

[@leehawk7068]

I know the feeling it's been a long time that one's I haven't seen have now been showing But this one about the Korean air there's a different version of this documentary I've seen about this disaster before but was more detailed how it was proven the plane was shot down outside of Soviet airspace and a few other points not mentioned in this version

[@musheghhayrapetyan8982]

i was a school student in SU when this happened. I remember what was saying SU news channels…

[@NonnaSonya]

They did the same with MH17, they have 0 regrets

[@angelabennett8245]

The piolet that brought down the plane was really annoying. He obviously doesn't understand the difference between a fighter jet and a civilian passenger plane. Civilian planes are a lot different than fighter jets. For one thing they are bigger and longer.

[@djpalindrome]

The RC-135 wasn’t a fighter jet. It’s a reconnaissance plane derived from the Boeing 707 commercial airliner

[@mahbriggs]

As I understand it, the Soviet pilot shot down the Airliner on orders from the ground!

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

@@djpalindromeyou are correct sir. Some of the individuals posting don’t realize this fact. Many military recon aircraft look identical to civilian. Especially at night there’s no way to confirm visually.

[@zachhoward9099]

Outside of the Blackbird and U2 spy planes practically all surveillance aircraft especially in the West are specially adapted from civilian transport aircraft so it’s not at all out of the realm of possibility it looked like an American surveillance plane

[@DarkerThanBlack88]

Pilot *

[@brandonjerue1205]

I saw that plane leave Anchorage!! 😯

[@bluebelle8823]

"It was complacent crew" I think the Soviets would disagree. They were shot down in a deliberate act. They were misidentified. It actually takes two to tango when external explosions are involved. I don't blame the pilot for choosing to believe it was a military flight. I cannot image the guilt he would feel if he felt the full weight of those deaths on his shoulders. In addition I really hate the tactics of disguising military actions as civilians. It has lead to so much needless carnage, a better safe than sorry attitude.

[@femiomar]

thanks 4 new video.

[@kovy689]

New?

[@femiomar]

@@kovy689 lol haha atleast new uoload or whatever, i know all this videos are a mixture of old videos alsol

[@kovy689]

@@femiomar None of it is new. Just reruns.

[@Rosenkrantz3669]

I really enjoy these well produced documentaries about what can go wrong on any particular aircraft flight, anywhere in the world. I believe at any one time on planet earth there are something like 20-30 thousand flights in the air, civilian and military, being flown by hundreds of different aircraft. It's incredible that more things don't go wrong, and is a testament to the professionalism and expertise of the pilots. This particular incident was one of dozens during the cold war and many remain possibly top secret to this day, not being made public at the time, in the interest of not triggering WW3. We are actually, unbelievably so, closer to Nuclear Armageddon than ever before. The US doesn't engage in diplomacy anymore, preferring to rush to conflict everywhere in the world, so as to support the Military Complex which is now a very necessary component of the US economy.

[@melissamccleary9611]

Around 48:48 I did NOT think she said fluffy! 😂 In my defense, my eyes were closed.

[@philipmcdonagh1094]

That could have gone pear shaped very easily, thank God it didn't.

[@cttommy73]

The interesting thing about this entire episode in the comment section is people blaming the Soviets as if it was their fault. Apparently, no one cares about the truth when it means blaming the soviets, As if it was their fault for shooting down an unidentified aircraft invading their airspace twice and never responding.

[@catherinearangie2311]

@@cttommy73 not to mention that there was US spy plane, with a similar appearance, taunting the Soviets.

[@Boyso5407]

Given all the facts I don’t blame the Soviets. The pilots of the 747 put themselves in restricted airspace. And I think a lot people either forget or don’t realize what was going on in the world in 1983. That’s was definitely the height of the Cold War. And don’t forget that there was an actual US spy plane in the area during that time. I can totally understand why the Soviets did what they did. They honestly believed they were protecting their country.

[@AnnaPrzebudzona]

Never responding to what???

[@CoderrX]

​@@AnnaPrzebudzona Only if you had watched the whole episode without skipping you would have known, "respond to what"

[@aznsbd]

I like my airliners shaken not stirred.

[@hawkeye5955]

"Do you expect me to talk?" "No, Mr. Bond! I expect you to fly!"

[@wavular]

How could a pilot not notice his INS was not Set? Ridiculous.

[@cateclism316]

Casualties of Cold War paranoia.

[@djpalindrome]

The interval of Glasnost in Russia between the Soviet era and Putin’s dictatorship was all too brief. Otherwise the black boxes would have been deep-sixed forever

[@GregDickinson75]

Man, after watching that second episode, I can't imagine a more miserable job than de-icing airplanes. Hats off to those heroes that take that job on every winter.

[@kidsworld0168]

After all these aviation history of incidents, errors , loss of thousands of lives, with all those mistakes, we are able to have more safer flights today. All those souls should be resting peacefully in heaven😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@ChrisSprenger.]

Sooo with that top secret tech, how can they not find the Malaysia plane

[@psyolytesaille]

I'm surprised we didn't factor in the maelstroms/whirlpools we have tracked. Some of them are garbage islands due to our shitty waste management. Won't be surprised if any debris from it is floating in one of them. Granted some of it made it close to South Africa.

[@DrPlatypus1]

They can build these planes to fly themselves and land themselves, but the technology for heating the wings to stop ice from building up on the ground is just too out of reach...? Come on now.

[@veritas41photo]

Especially after 9/11, what would America do if a plane entered our airspace in similar mysterious circumstances? Probably ultimately shoot it down. So I mourn those who died in Korean Air 007. But they were doomed by their pilots' deadly mistakes. Sad, but I cannot really blame the Soviets.

[@JDdaFilmer]

I CANT BELIEVE!! Russian Fighter pilot STILL to THIS DAY!! Believes it was a spy plane…. & not a civilian commercial jet, i understand he even stated he was just following orders, and at the time that’s what he was working to do…. Follow orders and I bet his colleagues and superiors even celebrated “aye you did it, bless you for getting that spy plane down” and like other American guy stated, he dosent blame him, because to be able to sleep soundly at night, he had to tell himself…. He “knew it was a trespasser” or a “spy plane”…. Regardless, this pretty much is just written up as a sole accident, I mean I could genuinely believe Russians probably were on super high alert at that time and believed the US were planning an attack, and vice versa😢 very sad incident indeed, glad we’re not living like this anymore, contact would be made and the civilians would move immediately & if attackers were to shoot down nowadays, consequences would be severe for whoever the attackers were…. ( also 99% pilots would never make the mistake of flying restricted airspace ever again ) ( I also heard Americans flew in some Chinese restricted airspace some what recently, but were given a warning and immediately moved out the way after claiming “we’re sorry we’re sorry” something among the lines lol )

[@paradiseofaden6570]

Why did America retaliate like that when an airplane was hit by the soviets but on the other hand they brushed it off when they hit an Iranian airplane?

[@kevinmalone3210]

The Americans didn't brush off the Iranian commercial passenger aircraft that was shot down by a US warship. This incident was an accident, and the US government paid millions of dollars to the Iranians, at least to their families, because of this.

[@cttommy73]

@@kevinmalone3210 Except America did because if you watched the episode with the Iranian episode one, the show even said the people who shot down the plane got medals and were treated as heroes. So there you have it.

[@ricktandron3669]

I'm no expert, but if you are 300 miles off course, there should be some indicator. The computer shouldn't just read off wrong locations. This sounds like a problem that should be fixed. Uber doesn't make mistakes like this.

[@jackasslawyer]

There was no uber in 1983. Or GPS.

[@Gaius_Sinstone]

Uber has streets to drive on lmao also this was 40+ yrs ago

[@PC-Phobic-Jean-Rene]

So terribly sad. Those poor souls, they never knew what killed-them. May they _Rest in Peace_ until the resurrection. 🥀🕯 When the lady spoke of her sister's tight-hug, _that got-to-me._

[@CLipka2373]

"1983 is the height of the Cold War" - you mean, like the Cuban Missile Crisis?

[@AbCd-xg2rr]

One shouldn't speak ill of those who have passed on.

[@bengyip2251]

Didn't the pilot that acted as the pilot of JAL123 also act in this crash?

[@Julie-hf4ch]

the captain wouldn't have been able to see on his radar the Russian plane behind him?

[@brightwhite22]

I hate how they just ruin every episode in the beginning and show exactly what happens I always fast forward the first part of these 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@kevinmalone3210]

Its probably to heightened your interest, but agree they shouldn't put a spoiler at the beginning of the video.

[@csuka86]

just search for "Airliner Iran Air Flight 655" before you say USSR was paranoid...

[@kilnmaster]

Korean 007? that says spy plane to me.

[@stephenwright8824]

Pure coincidence. Though since it happened I've thought the same thing. Like the cultural significance of the numbers 9 and 11.

[@kilnmaster]

​@stephenwright8824 yeah. What a tragedy. F'n war and government. Jezuz.

[@taaurus13]

I watched a different video & noticed myself the delay between deicing & takeoff & wondered myself why airplanes were having to go to deicing trucks instead of the trucks coming to them where they takeoff - especially when airplanes have to wait in line. I don’t even work w/airplanes. It’s just COMMON SENSE! Unbelievable that no one thought about this until multiple planes crashed?? 😳 Also whoever is responsible for allowing an airplane w/a broken APU to fly in that kind of weather - when a broken APU prevented deicing of the wings - should have been charged w/multiple counts of negligent homicide! That plane should have been GROUNDED! I’m sure money is why it wasn’t. I hope they enjoyed losing a multi million dollar plane & all the lawsuits. Bet they wish they had ground the plane now. 😒

[@LoveDroid1981]

Corrupt then, and corrupt now. Just awful...

[@dougburt2449]

Informative

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

That was due to the crew, not inputting waypoints. Planes do not fly in a straight line from point A to B, they ARE SUPPOSED to follow predetermined waypoints. Yes it was shot down, but they flew into hostile airspace. And the pilot NEVER responded to the warnings.

[@vladilenkalatschev4915]

The US didn’t discover anything 8:55 because they had known everything from the beginning

[@alexanderleach3365]

That almost led to WW3.

[@davidb2206]

Sakhalin Island was stolen by the Soviet Army from Japan in the last 8 days of WWII. Imagine the U.S. not giving Okinawa and Iwo Jima back to Japan.

[@sandrakiefler4649]

Uhhh….am I missing something here? 🤨 in the first story…tho I realize that the Russian dude who fired on the plane was just following protocol and the civilian pilots made a string of errors, along with horribly bad luck &/or timing is also to “blame” (tho that word is imo too harsh and that none of the people involved, did so with malice oss you know?🤷‍♀️ BUT…as I eluded at the beginning of my comment…I feel like I am somehow missing something or maybe im just slightly stupider today😅 …I say this because maybe it’s just me lacking sufficient knowledge of military protocols in a situation such as this but ffs I don’t understand why he was willing to fire warning shots and according to him he was getting no response….but is there some reason why he couldn’t &/or didn’t try to….idk….RADIO contact anyone? Like seriously tho…I must be missing something cause I’m in dire need of enlightenment as to why one wouldn’t either be able to or not want to attempt radio contact of some sort? Idk my dudes but PLEASE enlighten me over here 🤨🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️😑🤔

[@chrissywales6575]

@@sandrakiefler4649 I've seen another documentary about this flight. Apparently, they did try radio contact before the warning shots, but, unfortunately, they were not on any channels that the civilian plane was on.

[@atkvin]

I'm not sure if this documentary went into as many context details as another documentary I've seen, but the Soviets were on guard because they had just that day spotted an actual US spy plane around their territory. The plane also passed over a different Soviet landmass which detected it, but was unable to catch up with it, and notified another landmass (Sakahlin) the plane was heading towards of the intruding aircraft, biasing them to thinking it was a spy plane rather than a civilian one. As a result they made the grave mistake of not using the international distress frequency, and half-heartedly tried military interception tactics to confirm if it was a spy plane instead(eg: flashing their tail lights BEHIND the plane, shooting warning shots invisible in the dark of night), though they were already all but certain.

[@m.scottreeder]

I was 19 when this happened, and I was disappointed in President Reagan for not taking the appropriate measures against the Soviets. A few years later, we accidentally shot down an Iranian commercial flight.

[@colbylux-hale5561]

Mysterious Spy Flight 007. You don't say...

[@BryceRoberts-sq5wj]

Whatever the excuses, God will bring those responsible to account

[@richardkranium2944]

Funny how Soviets are always standing in the dark in these shows. Probably just because the actors don’t look Russian.

[@andrewince8824]

"The Soviets were telling the truth". Yeah, they did that quite often yet for some reason no one expected it.

[@ShrekJo-we2st]

The US is worse... A US Navy Destroyer Fired a Missile at a Iranian commercial plane killing all onbiard.

[@andrewnajarian5994]

What a great plane design for flying on warm sunny days! In this case; since they didn’t bother repairing the plane before using it to carry passengers, Couldn’t they have de-iced one wing at a time? Why not de-ice the side that was shut down, then fire it up and briefly shut down the other side to de-ice that side before taking off?

[@focusabove2960]

So when is the real truth coming out?

[@jaredbezes7806]

Dude can believe that the plane was a fighter jet, it’s still his fault. He literally said he saw the lights and it was a civilian plane. I get that one can believe that anyone can disguise it as a civilian plane but I mean cmon why didn’t he continuously check in with headquarters or something it’s not like the plane was a bomber plane. In my mind, I would’ve been like wait what would be the point for America to send a plane here? I absolutely blame the pilot.

[@TheShockwaveDragon]

It wouldn't have made much of a difference because IIRC one of the rationalizations used by high ranking leadership to justify the shoot-down was that even if it was a civilian jet, it was likely either an unmarked jet in use by the US military for pre-assault/invasion reconnaissance activities, or at the very least a civilian jet equipped with and using spy camera equipment and undercover US intelligence agents to get photos of potential invasion sites. Their belief was that Russia is a big country and hard to miss, it was known that they were extremely likely to treat any unknown and unexpected radar intercepts as hostile and as such everyone would be especially careful not to make the exact innocent mistakes that the pilots made, and therefore, any incursion was therefore deliberate and premeditated (which means a clear and present threat).

[@robinsydney140]

Such a huge charade. Both governments (at the utmost upper level) knew what they were doing. Do you believe that the soviets and the USA couldn't figure out the information of the flight? AND, very convenient that the black boxes were returned after 10 years when everything had already cooled off.

[@yours2injesus2]

HOW SAD

[@emmettturner9452]

I don’t think so. Evans might have some from an old Mac Book Pro

[@stephennegrotti3448]

Was it Russia or was it a spy plane with passengers, we will never know.

[@gerardguittat2878]

US missile shut down Iran Air Airbus too 😢

[@mduz1069]

The US are to be blamed for this.

[@iquecanseco8876]

16:51 they can track every plane on the world but they can't tell what happened with MH370???

[@arthurmcintyrepoochie3264]

An ultra. Ultra. Ultra. Right Wind congressman from Georgia was on that plane. Named McDonald. It circulated for Years and Years that it was A Soviet hit job on him………..maybe and over 250 more !!

[@richardkeilig4062]

This was a monstrous act by communists. There was no excuse for this. Bless the families.

[@mariephillips4519]

Shameful doings.

[@larachannel-vj6pk]

😂😂😂😂..... And I'm Batman

[@tristanbarnes4994]

That pilot can say what he wants the blood of women and children are on his hands

[@TheIrritsBand]

So the USA does have a radar that could have tracked the location of MH370??

[@Alexchannel-78]

1:05:51 😢😢😭😭

[@carlseiz1266]

Yes, I made a mistake.But should their mistake have gotten him killed?I don't think so

[@donovandelaney3171]

Airplanes in the future will have names and be electric.

[@cynthya2011]

If they only had installed Google Maps on the plane, they would have known they were in someone's else's airspace 😢 Why not installing Google maps in ALL planes ?

[@kevinmalone3210]

This happened in 1983. Google maps didn't exist, not that aircraft use Google maps for navigation. GPS wasn't available. The pilots had navigation aids that were more than adequate. They put the wrong coordinates into the navigation computer, causing their plane to fly off course.

[@lethabrooks9112]

Google Maps didnt exist back then. And Airlines and Military Agencies dont usually use google maps now that it exists.

[@Gaius_Sinstone]

This is an attempt at satire, right

[@robertredmon6387]

The Soviet pilot isn't wrong with what he did we were in their airspace and got caught even though it was the wrong plane in the time of war things happen unfortunately shouldn't

[@Alexchannel-78]

1:05:53😢😢😭😭

[@SAMUELMITHAMO-hf8hd]

Americans also shot an iranian commercial jet and killed everyone.

[@zyzyx4157]

Two wrongs don’t make a right, don’t make somebody’s rash decisions acceptable

[@rubencastillojr4645]

They were on spy missions but they thought who would shoot down a passenger jet , that pilot s.knew it

[@thegothlibrarian]

It’s the East Sea, not the Sea of Japan.

[@DewYou-zn4ny]

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[@scootermom1791]

30:13 If there were seals on the tapes, then how were the tapes spliced? Obviously, they had tampered with the tapes. They broke the seals, accessed the tapes to splice them and attempted to put everything back together. One has to ask "why would they do that unless they were trying to cover up something?" I have difficulty believing there wasn't data missing. The method they used to try to prove it hadn't been tampered with is questionable IMO.