Soy Boy vs Dairy Boy: Which Are You?

[@virginiadonnelly1031]

Addicts will always defend their addiction with every excuse and attack those who point out their addiction. Consuming animal products, especially meat and dairy is a physical addiction.

[@plantgeezer]

I suffered with gyno for years until i gave up meat & dairy. I switched back to pesco at one point and could only eat white fish to limit the soreness. Since turning vegan in 2019, the gyno has never once reappeared. ANIMAL produce affects hormone balance! 🌱💪

[@holboroman]

So believable! I had a duodenal ulcer and a hiatus hernia and they both were cured after I dropped dairy. Confirmed by an endoscopy.

[@alx4animalss]

happy for you. so youre an ethical vegan? no animal skin and stuff? please join us in activism we need more activists

[@plantgeezer]

@@alx4animalss I am.. the comment sounds like I didn’t turn for moral reasons but thats not the case, just happened to be pescatarian before I switched 🌱👊🏼

[@alx4animalss]

@@plantgeezer ahaa.. what a legend. thank you for choosing compassion.

[@Ermude10]

Whenever I get confronted with the manboob or effeminate argument, as an Asian myself I usually first answer with "Are you looking down on the whole history of East Asia and all its men?" The shock value of such a statement usually gives them pause and really gets them questioning their claims. Historically, soy has been a staple food and much more important (due to availability) than meat. It's only in recent years where meat has been readily available.

[@agaobi573]

Bullies think they are the real men, it fact they are the biggest cowards

[@UTBanjo]

Terrified to have their cognitive dissonance challenged.

[@rasputozen]

They're always the first to close off communication when they're challenged.@@UTBanjo

[@coreylai1348]

If you ever want to hear someone sound completely asinine, have that person argue against veganism. It's true even for the likes of Neil deGrasse Tyson.

[@BirdmanVeganFuture]

No good arguments exist so they resort to nonsense. Just say they are weak addicts and like it, since that is the only honest reason, but most are liars

[@slartibartfast2452]

Neil was bought and paid for early on. The number of times that guy has come off sounding moronic, far and away more often than he has come off sounding like he knows what he is talking about. Even his volcal tonality is a facade.

[@Ermude10]

@@slartibartfast2452I don't think he was bought. He's just a classic case of fame getting to ones head and thinking that he knows more than he does outside of his field of expertise. Just because you're an expert in one field doesn't mean you know something about another. Humble and intellectually honest people know this. Neil lost that years ago, if he ever had it.

[@happycarnivore5481]

Why would people care to argue against veganism, eat what you like.

[@susanwjoh0re735]

naa i have seen vegan do exactly that: be annoying as possible.

[@biancat.1873]

They're so afraid of phytoestrogens & then turn around & drink beer every day... the irony *lol

[@courag1]

You are right as hops has much more phyto estrogens than soy ever dreamed of!

[@cynthiatheresasuzara2247]

This is so funny. How many years have Americans started drinking soy milk or eating soy products? Asians have been eating soy since time immemorial and there aren’t men with men boobs! Especially in China and Japan wherein they eat tons of soybean products from morning till night: eating several kinds of tofus, natto, tempeh, seitan, soy sauce, miso, kinako soy milk and lots of other products and they are not ultra processed food💚

[@dheerajpimoli9539]

i don't know about estrogen level but man boobs are mostly caused by dairy product and it also causing obesity

[@rasputozen]

Every overweight person I've ever seen eats tons of animal products.

[@dobrickgenevo]

Soy does not cause it either, scientific consensus proves it

[@ScheveSneeuwSchuifSchep]

When McDonalds first came to China GPs actually noticed a significant increase in breast size in young women who would regularly eat there

[@notyourdamnbusiness8795]

@@ScheveSneeuwSchuifSchep Nice.

[@angr3819]

Not true. My father had loads of dairy, especially fresh cream. It's what is put into the cattle - and more. A lot of it is due to altrazine and other hormone altering chemicals deliberately put into water and all we consume. A whole shoal of river fish were taken to extinction by having their hormones feminised. All of the males literally became female and of course they couldn't procreate. I would rather hear anger about that than anger against the male human victims. Obviously it affects some more than others - especially those younger. Incidentally, it isn't the soy but the way it's processed and far too much of it in ways it isn't supposed to be consumed.

[@jesselovesyah]

Love my tofu and not seeing animals suffer! Also i have high testosterone, 9 years plant based!

[@mychannelarchive2410]

exactly the same for me. 9 years Vegan and high testosterone in my 51 :)

[@LightningStriker7510]

Is that what your wife’s boyfriend said?

[@jesselovesyah]

@@LightningStriker7510 nah its what you’re Dad’s boyfriend said.

[@LightningStriker7510]

@@jesselovesyah nahhh bro that’s what your mom said while she was humming on my 🐓 and 🥎 🥎

[@jesselovesyah]

@@LightningStriker7510 nasty bro 🤮

[@Corilo91]

People should be accountable for the misinformation they spread. This is the only way to stop industries and lobbies from manipulating the masses.

[@AaronVets]

Thank you for taking the time to put this video together...amazing work! 🌱💚✌🏽

[@globalist1990]

You know these guys HAVE to say this about meat and whey protein(!, of all things) to be very masculine, TO COVER UP THEIR ABUSE OF STEROIDS AND OTHER STUFF.

[@jameswayton2340]

3:15 ''its a candle man'' LMFAO 🤣

[@rasputozen]

You know you're secure in your manhood when a candle made of soy sitting inert in your room would threaten it.

[@MarkSheeres]

I grew up in “dairy country.” Oh, how I wish I knew this information 40 years ago! 😭

[@English_Rose4]

He's totally on point 💯

[@adamswift1747]

Superb. Thank you for this. Ironically (for meat-heads) we could do with some 'feminising' right now, given that we currently seem too busy fighting each other to fight climate change.

[@mjs28s]

The argument is simple. When someone mentions soy boy they clearly have no idea what they are talking about regarding soy so don't bother engaging outside of asking them to tell you about estrogen receptors A & B, which one the phytoestrogens bind to and how blocking estrogen is beneficial.

[@jgreen9361]

Proper science is wasted. I have just read in a comment beneath a pro carnivore video that vitamin A in your liver from eating foods rich in carotenoids is bad for you. They used its longer chemical name of course, to make it sound convincing, no carnivore who reads “yellow and orange vegetables are bad for you” are going to fact check.

[@Stecra]

Who is the “My work isn’t peer reviewed” video creator? That was perfect, lmao…

[@KasKade7]

Actually, soy is one of the best longevity and protein foods on this planet. This has tons of research behind it. Very high in spermidine, very high in glycine and very high in phytonutrients. All of the compounds longevity research screams about. Ofcourse, the dairy lobby has done everything in it's power to stop milk alternatives. GMO Soy is also something I avoid myself, but it's easy here in Europe.

[@AndreaAvila78]

Soy girl for life❤

[@keeganthevegan4758]

One thing I've noticed as the years go on is that more die hard meat eaters prefer alternative milks to dairy. Even without believing in veganism, most (predominantly younger people granted) agree it's weird to breastfeed from another animal

[@DarkDeepGreen]

Most comments the anti vegans say are so low level.

[@dobrickgenevo]

​@@RexBuyeoIt's proven that it doesn't both for men and women

[@dobrickgenevo]

Scientific consensus says it doesn't for males nor females

[@Ermude10]

@@RexBuyeo Yeah, the boob enlargement industry would go bust if that was the case ;)

[@saschathinius7082]

Sorry but people who take anything that Joe Rogan says serious, can't be helped... they are lost

[@stephenross9635]

Glad you are back creating. Well done Joe. Where are you living now.

[@FiberFairy22]

This is an amazing video❤ people need to seriously understand the biochemistry of phytoestrogens and the power of them to actually provide support to the human body to be able to flush excess actual estrogen out of the system! PHYTOESTROGENS ARE NOT ESTROGEN!

[@nitramnagev7997]

If Rogan is so determined to avoid all soya he had better not eat the cattle or chickens who've been fed soya. Rogan must have similar views about the millions of Japanese and Chinese men who eat soya. Soya consumption doesn't seem to have a detrimental effect on their fertility as is proved by their huge populations. Hulse suggests that eating soya will prevent people from building muscle. The cattle and chicken victims on farms, who are fed soya, manage to put on a lot of muscle for people to eat. I call men who drink animal milk babyboys because it is for babies.

[@sschreck08]

Rogan is indeed very insecure. I’m willing to bet that he suffers from ED as well. 😂😂

[@mrbeanie5314]

Ever heard of Grass fed beef...

[@nitramnagev7997]

@@mrbeanie5314 Yes.

[@nitramnagev7997]

@@mrbeanie5314 🙂 Animal products can cause damage to various arteries including those leading to the brain.

[@Stevelives13]

@@mrbeanie5314 Thats literally less than 5% of all meat. Also grassfed is a marketing term that usually means cows in a feed lot eating hay from a trough.

[@hannahrl]

This is so excellent in so many ways.

[@Don_Kikkon]

Yes yes yes! So very well put. I noticed this comment in one of Joey Carbstrong's threads and it's so very pertinent, I feel the need repeat it here... With regards to every argument I've heard thus far against veganism... Their arguments really always turn out to be against caring.

[@Nyle95]

Dairy Fairy*

[@spandel100]

I was going to say that😂The hormones in dairy turn men into fairies lol.

[@nyxs60]

​@@spandel100exactly!

[@saschathinius7082]

but using the word fairy as an insult is no better... I'm personly strong enough to laugh about it, when someone calls, me [gay AND vegan], soy boy, xyz fairy.., feminine, faq, or what ever... but not all LGBTIQ people are as settled in their personality

[@Nyle95]

@@saschathinius7082 People need to stop being so sensitive. But that's just my opinion.

[@spandel100]

@@saschathinius7082 Not as an insult,but a retort. Its only fair.

[@eelkeaptroot1393]

It's somehow sad video's like this are needed to counter all the BS out there...

[@nobodyreally]

Great job on the video!

[@artvsmachine]

Damn! That was a brilliant video.

[@danielsykes7558]

28:40 this is the most wholesome pro-man, neomasculine video I've ever seen

[@rinoak05]

Those of us who eat plant based will outlive the ones who don't, so I just let them say whatever makes them feel better and ignore them.

[@AaronVets]

We should always speak up for the innocent animals given the chance though. 🙄

[@mrbeanie5314]

Tell that you all the vegans who are quitting the diet to eat meat 😊

[@reesecarr2105]

EXCELLENT VIDEO!💚💚💚

[@plantgeezer]

Top quality content!!

[@oceantransistor]

As a general rule I never take advice from people that look like muscled action figures or that say that men aren't as manly as they used to be. Just simple ref flags based of facts.

[@thebowandbullet]

Gym bros say what they want to hear. They don't listen to science because science supports plant-based diets for humans, especially WFPB.

[@limitisillusion7]

If studies show that people live longer on a plant-based diet, would you concede that it's possible that a small percentage of people thrive and benefit from animal-based diets who are not being picked up by the studies? If not, you should consider it.

[@AaronVets]

@@limitisillusion7Neanderthals? lol

[@flattlandermontgomery1524]

@@limitisillusion7 I would concede that there are people who live longer lives in spite of eating a high animal product diet. There are people who live into their nineties smoking two packs a day and drinking tons of alcohol every day.

[@gur262]

Science doesn't support plant based. Science is fine with plant based. Science is perfectly fine with meat too.

[@AH-cy4md]

Oh, I’d like to see that “naughty nutritionist “ debate Dr. Greger😜

[@mattnhormann]

Tofu was one of Bruce Lee's favorite foods. Does he look "feminine" to you, meat-eaters?

[@AaronVets]

🌱💪🏽👊🏽

[@codyscottrose]

Great video

[@MichaelToub]

Great Video!

[@slartibartfast2452]

I've been calling them cowboys for years.

[@arjunratnadev]

you've been insulting that word for years

[@alx4animalss]

Soyboy for LIFE

[@J-Rad-]

Lol

[@BrentMurrell]

Joe is such joy to watch. Very entertaining video.

[@MarkDurbin]

I'm a soy boy too! :)

[@beanburrito8903]

Dairy boy not a soy boy. It's a compliment to be called a soy boy.

[@John-cc4rk]

OMG... Men are wearing floral shirts!!!

[@Fclwilson]

Damn, East Asia uses quite a bit of soy and has male-dominated societies. How do the anti-soy adherents address this.

[@RobertHawkins]

Don't go to Hawaii....

[@thirty_club]

Dairy Fairy is more apt ;)

[@afkduck-gx3nw]

Thank you

[@robjohn6943]

Milk is for babies.

[@pennynolan7597]

Milk is for baby cows

[@Snoopyzell]

Great video. I also really love the artwork... beautiful ❤

[@erinsymone1645]

God I haven’t seen Joe in years since everyone at Durian Freak’s festival tried to drive him out of the community for being weird around the girls. Crazy that this guy is still around lol

[@antoinettecastle4739]

Thank you❤

[@fenysnake]

Joe!! 👏🏽👏🏽

[@ultramiddle4991]

I thought I would never see you again! I’ve often wondered how you were doing with your diabetes and if you were okay ❤

[@jeffo8905]

I'm a water boy. Why do adults drink milk?

[@tonerebel2866]

I pulled a muscle from these mental gymnastics.

[@MatschinHandstand]

The Ones with the biggest egos need to use the smallest and weakest excuses to keep going with their crap :) Easy Fact: There is no Manly thing in paying someone to abuse innocent beings.

[@olgakim4848]

More like *fragile* egos.

[@MatschinHandstand]

true @@olgakim4848

[@limitisillusion7]

Take your own advice and lead by example. Be the change you want to see and remove your ego from it. That means more action and less of the egotistical moral superiority complex. You contradicted your advice with your ad hominems. You allowed you ego to attack another human, just like the "manly" meat eater allows their ego to claim superiority over the animal. Attack your opposition, and you'll get more pushback.

[@abhayagarwal5097]

This simple thing their pea nut brain just can't comprehend. Shouldn't any real adult introspect instead of trying to come off as a disingenious paid troll online ? Even childrens are more intelligent than these grown up idiots. At the end it's all about money if you really think. Ppl don't realise what someone can do for money.

[@veganian2019]

Yes, been saying this for years! 😂 (The Dairy Boy stuff!)

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

Neither. I don't eat dairy or soy.

[@brianzidian2553]

I hope that if I share this video with my mom she’ll let me have soy milk because I always wanted to taste it

[@taoeml]

My doctor says that I have great estrogen levels, which is fantastic because when women hit menopause, they lose estrogen and their sex drive goes down. Just a female fyi.

[@PeteysPonderings1220]

People are dumb and want to agree with famous/rich people to be cool. 😆

[@ceeemm1901]

For all those who use the term "Soy Boy', you're a "Dairy Fairy"

[@leviotten]

its just a cope. They have a thinly defined and materialist sense about what masculinity is. Its not a fully formed concept at all, and its just used to delineate for the user of the term who is part of their ideological team and who is not. I think the vegan community does this as well but in reverse. The lables are meaningless. The actions are what matters.

[@jaredkaye3669]

I am a Cantonese vegan and I thought soy boy was a racial thing. My friend's son is 14 and he was almost willing to stab me because of the rhetoric. I showed him how to make a fried tofu sandwich and he REALLY liked it!

[@adamspeaking373]

Since when is "hate speech" only a synonym for "racist speech?" The whole concept of "hate speech" is ridiculous.

[@BLu3RayDiskRang3]

Contrary to popular belief, syntheticly processed soy and dairy won't feminize men, but they can decrease testosterone and will fatten people in general.

[@philiptaylor7902]

So it's ok for the cow to eat the soy, but not a human.

[@janerainbow22]

A couple of glaring ironies on this topic. First is testosterone and other androgens =male/masculine, oestrogens and progesterone = female/feminine/ effeminate. The endocrine system is a complex interactive system, and all people produce all the hormones, it's the concentrations and balancing mechanisms that are significant....and yes we can interfere with that balancing mechanism with excessive metabolically active sources. Anabolic steroids, famously known for performance enhancing and muscle building, widely used in gyms to produce the "masculine " physique, and based on testosterone, have very femininising effects, such as, genital shrinkage, erectile dysfunction and low sperm counts. That's testosterone, not oestrogen. Balance is crucial for positive health effects. Venturing into the socially more controversial ironies on the perception of effeminate, the male gay community usually get targeted on this characteristic...yet in my youth the main bodybuilding gym in the town was absolutely dominated by the large gay community and if you want to harp on the shallow visual anesthetics, which is often compelling, I'll admit, no nightclub in the town had members displaying the muscular physiology like the gay disco. How exactly are people looking to ring fence the definition of effeminate according to cultural cliques?

[@peteroffpist1621]

yes soyboy no milk for me. Prostate problems from dairy

[@spandel100]

🌱🤜🤛💯

[@letransformateur6477]

Im a proud soyboy, as in I drink soy milk.

[@markburks9084]

We're never going to get those who don't already agree with us to consume this knowledge when we lead with insults. They won't watch more than 60 seconds. We must meet the opposing side where they are (insecure, unaware and prejudiced). The 2nd half of the video was fine.

[@zanegriswold2295]

I’m a soy boy

[@BLu3RayDiskRang3]

So I guess this means all the things applied to soyboys, are actually about dairy boys. Such as weight gain and decrease in testosterone. 😂😂😂

[@allybaapp1053]

wow joe best! blast from the dramatic past back in the thai fruit festival times haha

[@JonCurtin]

vegan gains, earthling ed, happy healthy vegan, you can't tell me soy hasn't had an effect on their feminine characteristics over the years.

[@-_soy_-888]

Milk Boy sounds a lot easier to say

[@frankchen4229]

dairy fairy, not dairy boy lol

[@shiv_ring]

16:20 I'm suuure this won't be taken out of context. ^^

[@FreeDharmasangha]

Change the title to DAIRY FAIRY mate !!

[@surena3727]

what do you mean by saying it makes your body more feminine, but not your character? don't you know that the mind and body are deeply connected?

[@reaperkollyns6495]

You missed the opportunity to create the term "Dairy Dandy."

[@brittneyrivera-soto2072]

I'm a soy Person!

[@alexcolclough6133]

im oat boy

[@thepulp80s]

I think “Dairy Fairy” is a funnier term lol

[@ottitudes]

👏👏👏💚

[@holboroman]

The point I make to people if they have a go at me for my plant base habits: Enjoy your ppiles! They are also macho meat eaters.

[@adamspeaking373]

Forget soy and dairy. Neither are good for you. Stop taking sides, and choosing teams, and feeling like you have to defend dairy or soy.

[@miracoli16]

0:55 😂

[@RainWalking]

People use the excuse is it is their sexuality. Also women claim they want men like that, but then not happy when they are.

[@PercivalBlakeney]

I'd rather be a soy boy now it's help me lose my moobs and zits. 🤔

[@Jerry_TheFitnessMessiah]

Bluebell Boy

[@VegheadFTA]

Stop using AI image generators. It’s unethical and unjustifiable.

[@AaronVets]

🤔

[@VeganYeshua]

It is MILKBOY!

[@worldwideweather852]

Whoa it's KFC Joe!!

[@johnferreira5752]

Soyboy

[@retrospiel]

These AI generated images make this video totally unwatchable. Sorry.

[@Janibobs]

Love soy milk. Love soy boys!