Space Haven - Procedural Open Galaxy Sci Fi Colony Survival

[@ophidahlia1464]

Hot Tip: if you put different types of machines in their own walled-off rooms you can avoid problems like the water vapour produced by your hydroponics. In a separate room you can set the temperature and light they need without worrying about their effect on other machines. The crew also hates noise from industrial machines, so you can put those in their own room to improve their comfort level. If you select the view mode menu on the bottom the right (hotkey RP) it brings up a selection of overlays so you can easily see what needs to be in it's own room and what is causing a problem.

[@duckdictator6531]

I feel like this game has mastered the anxiety of slow decline. In games like Rimworld it’s all crisis based, but this game you struggle to survive under the normal circumstances, but not so violently that it’s fight or flight. It’s like a slow sinking feeling with a dash of hope. I can’t describe it well.

[@ukee31]

That WAS described well

[@CDRDolphin]

This was one of the first games I watched you show off, and it was a key factor to me buying it :) Keep up the amazing showcases

[@snagsTS]

Funny you should say that. His video on Space Haven from over two years ago is the actual very first video from Splat I checked out. I was trying to find some info on the game since I played other games from the devs and a YT search for Space Haven put me on Splat's channel and I'm grateful every day 🤣

[@redacted5052]

You’re spot on - Rimworld is the gold standard and it’s hard to make any comparisons without referencing it.

[@loganwolfram4216]

That's an odd way of spelling Dwarf Fortress.

[@100skinks]

I much prefer it when you skip the tutorial/setup for survival and colony building games like this. I feel that 90% of those games have the same exact start so it's refreshing to start out at a point when the game can start to differentiate itself from other titles in the genre. Keep on keepin' on Splat!

[@markrichards7377]

What a pleasure it is is to have you cover this again. I bought it, I love it, and I love hearing you talk about it.

[@DamsdelDrennon]

This was a nice revisit thanks Splatt' ! Great summary with "post intro" gameplay, I like the pace of the game and the nice polish on the power system.

[@shineshadow]

very interesting. This Game has tons of potential. Would love to see different Races with different needs implemented.

[@tiemanowo]

I like overall concept of the game. I played something like 80h, but this game still lacks "the purpose". At the beginning it is fun to build and manage thie ship, but after a while there is nothing else to do. So I still have a mixed fealings about this game.

[@zsoltnagy3991]

The game is still in development and far from being finished.

[@joewilson3393]

Yeah, it's pretty far from being done. They got a huge roadmap paid for by their Kickstarter backers, and I think they are maybe half way through it. I've been watching Bugbyte since the beginning, I'm a big fan of their mobile games. This is their first "Real" game.

[@KingHunter868]

But what do you mean there's no purpose? It's basically open world open interpretation etc...

[@tiemanowo]

@@KingHunter868 Yes. it is an "open world" game, but in those kind of games you have some "progression" mechanics: missions / questing, leveling, gathering some items, encouters, dungeons, Boses, etc. In Space Haven right now there is nothing like that. Outside of your own ship you can basically do two things: mining and salvaging to make your ship bigger which force you to do more mining and more salvaging to keep your ship running.

[@artix003]

@@tiemanowo there is an end goal the game finishes after reaching that place but i do agree its not yet implemented to know about it and ive never actually gotten to try and reach it since i got bored before trying. Its just basically survival until you become self sufficient and that is time gated by locking it behind research and having the energy, fuel, food long enough to unlock those. Once you figured out a layout design to your liking everything else becomes a grind at that point which is long enough to be worth the price.

[@optima-nova772]

Thanks for coming back to Space Haven, and bringing that splatter summary to your revisit

[@LittleLadyLidbetter]

Well said!

[@jasoncramer6717]

Heeeey you got me into this game a while back. Glad to see you show it some more love. It's mad a lot of progress

[@merrittswift3797]

Iv been playing this for a year obsessively.The latest update adds a lot to units skill development.I beat one set of enemies until I get through all the systems then I continue past the end "win" and continue play the next all new group of systems but add an additional enemy faction to make it harder each time.Eventually as its developed the game will change and so may my goals but for now Im happy doing what Iv described to keep it interesting.

[@frankbailey]

I bought this last time because of your video! This game is great.

[@smithynoir9980]

Love Space Haven! Thanks for the reminder, it's been a long time since playing!

[@Gathies]

This game has the best title screen song since Halo!

[@patrickcousino7246]

Love the additional play vs the repetitive openings. It’s why I sub’d. I’m not much of a PC gamer, but I completely dig the content you dish. Kudos and keep it coming. Perhaps I’ll see something I’ll invest in!

[@vidstarr]

You should put the Recycler in it's own room. Just build walls around it and make sure you put a Air-Scrubber in with it and give the room a Airlock door.

[@vidstarr]

Your crew will die from poisoned air if you don't do this.

[@MrDavidMoyer]

"That's the scrubber, it gets rid of smoke and CO2 and toxic gases and turns it into O2... And that's just a lightbulb." Welcome to the post-apocalyptic future in outer space. Where technology has advanced so far that we have warp travel. But a lightbulb is still just a lightbulb. LOL

[@TheAceFireChild]

I do hope this is a game you'll be streaming. Really enjoyed watching you with this one Sir Splatticus

[@LittleLadyLidbetter]

Thank you, Splatt, for your in depth reviews and taking the time and effort to show us further into the game!

[@horrigan495]

I am watching this game for some thime.... Building you own spaceship in sandboxy style caugh my eye some time ago. They made good progress so far, still cant wait for the more developed product

[@kylelewis4685]

This game is great. Totally worth the price if this is the kind of thing you like. I especially like to first 20 hours or so.

[@Moseth7606]

Yo 40 minutes of splatter on haven!? People should usually have to pay for such loveliness haha

[@JG-wg2iv]

Looking forward to your coverage of this after their next big update, I've had several dozen hours in this, but I found that it lacks a late game, and whatever late game content it does have, is heavily unbalanced. It's got so much potential though, so I really wanna see it keep getting updates

[@zengrath]

This actually looks amazing, my first time seeing it. Especially if a lot of it is procedural. checking it out!

[@majormajorasic]

40:00 I will say one of the things that annoys me is that the best ship you can make is literally just a square, engine row in the bottom right, double airlocks on the bottom left and pack the rest of the ship as you need.

[@AnunnakiAaron]

Can't wait for this game to be finished. Looking forward to a good late game. I enjoy building in this game quite a lot.

[@w-dad4040]

Years ahead of ya, fantastic game

[@RoseDragoness]

Thanks Splattercat, loving this game! It was a shame that Spacebase DF9 discontinued (and sold as broken game), this game remedy my craving of that kind of game.

[@rickytempleton4181]

My man! Keep up the great work sir.

[@MrPanzerDragoon]

These characters follow by the work/life balance. I like! Unlike real life.....

[@Sanches7557]

Toilet in the open area doesn’t hinder work? Damn XD

[@brunorendon9770]

Well Splatty, this game may start slow but as you leave your starting system you come across dangrous situations more and more often. As you progress you also come across many moral dilemmas etc...

[@GrimmSpector]

This game looks amazing, thank you so much for sharing such interesting gameplay!

[@RannonSi]

I agree with your take on RimWorld mechanics, and it made me think of classic books and how some of them feel really dated and cliché filled- because other people took the great ideas and expanded on them but left the bad ones! ^^.

[@duckdictator6531]

Can’t believe it’s been more than a year since you covered this!

[@havoc3742]

It's not Post-Apocalyptic, but more Post-Earth Apocalypse. In short, the eco-nuts were right, and we littered too hard in Chernobyl and broke earth. so, now the crew of the ship must leave the earths so that humanity can survive, somewhere else? it isn't quite clear on that.

[@DarthTUK]

31:06 the hull scrap went up because you salvaged furniture attached to those walls

[@TroaBarton]

Space scavenger survival games are few and usually poorly implemented, this isn’t one of them; a gem of a game in an unwarrantedly small niche.

[@OldieWan]

Space Haven: Only get if it is on sale. I wouldn't pay full price for this game. If you got it on sale, you won't have to feel bad about the many glaring issues this game faces. Has potential, but not quite there Space Haven has the basics it needs to qualify for the Dwarf Fortress/RimWorld genre, but a simple lack of depth and variety hamper its ability to play in the same league as its predecessors. When you aren't sending the same away teams to clear an abandoned starship of the games two monster units, you are engaging in ship-to-ship battle with the same two starship weapons and/or performing your standard set of colonist operations (mining, crafting, researching, etc). You may also opt to board a starship with your away team and enslave the crew, but your colonists will do so armed with one of the only four weapons in the game (the pistol, SMG, assault rifle, and shotgun) and a single helmet slot which does not appear to serve a purpose. Perhaps the latter will be utilized in a future update. Outside of this, there really isn't a whole lot to do other than try and survive the game's two random events: solar flares and meteor showers. Even the colonist mechanics/operations fall short of what you'd expect from the genre. There is no equipment quality/durability mechanic in Space Haven, much less an option to craft equipment/furniture using different materials. Resource types are very limited as well. Heck, even the number of existential threats seem pretty limited. I think I've had four or five total colonist tantrums in the many hours I've put into the game. Beyond that, most threats are external. I am sure that mods exist to help cover these gaps, but in its current state Space Haven falls short. I do enjoy the game and will admittedly continue to play it for a while, but it has a bit of a ways to go before I give it the attention I gave RimWorld. I do hope that the devs continue to support though. It definitely has potential. ~DavidAdas

[@OldieWan]

@_____ I want to like this game, it's a neat idea trying to combine Rimworld and FTL together into a new space game like this. I know it's early alpha, but playing this is just painfully boring, my eyes are just glazing over and I'm starting to feel like an NPC after awhile. You gather resources and expand the ship, then jump, interact with a ship maybe, then gather resources, expand the ship, rinse and repeat. It's just painfully boring, especially having just gone a binge playing Factario, where there is never a dull moment.

[@EddieDubs]

@@OldieWan I enjoyed it.

[@OldieWan]

@@EddieDubs I enjoyed it for the time I enjoyed it. Not a horrible game. Just feel like it could have been so much more. Would never try to insult or come down on a person for enjoying a video game.

[@StevenWClark]

I wonder if one of those androids was killed by being thrown out of a window of a high-rise office building in LA?

[@Null8fuenf10]

12:55 Hypoxia (from hypo + oxia) already means low/too little oxygen lol I know, it seems all Greek to many, because it in fact is Greek ;P Hypo means low, under, too little. A hypodermic needle goes, like many words, hypo (under) the derma (skin). Hyper an the other hand means over, too much. Being hypocritical (hypo, under + krinein, to sieve, separate, discriminate, distinguish) means s/o is under-critical, in the sense of he's not critical equally or not thorough enough. Being hypercritical (hyper, over + s.a.) means s/o is overly critical, criticizing too much or is in a too critical, serious state. Last example: Hypertension means too much, high stretch, (in this case blood) pressure. Hypotension means too little, low stretch, (in this case blood) pressure. PS: hyperoxia and oxygen poisoning is a thing and happens mostly in hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) to mainly treat divers with decompression sickness. Hyperbaric (hyper + barys, heavy, baros, weight) btw means over (atmospheric) pressure. The unit bar, as well as barometer comes from barys, the first denoting, the second measuring the 'weight' of the surrounding atmosphere (atmos, vapor + sphaira, sphere).

[@zappedguy1327]

Thanks for the vid Splatt

[@joewilson3393]

As I understood the plot, Old Earth collapsed under ecological disaster and there was no new government to take control. So humanity is kinda wandering the stars without a home, since we had recently discovered space flight.

[@user-em9su3dd9y]

This looks really fun!

[@Dark0Storm]

It feels quite Firefly-esque to me.... and that's not just because the very first datapad log I ever found was basically a Firefly easter egg 😀

[@Dark0Storm]

Should have watched more of the vid before commenting 😀

[@Nekoyashiki-san]

Thanks for showcasing! ^^

[@mikeciddor2295]

I am neither early or late. I arrive exactly when I mean to.

[@OldieWan]

The Wizard's way!

[@UtopssAKAPJ]

Space Haven looks cool

[@Drakkart]

3-4 day effort -well only if you salvage it entirely, not when you just go for the stuff you need and move on - for you will not discover further loot when staying in a place for too long.

[@janneaalto3956]

You just had to mention Space Hulk, did you? I was actually thinking of playing something more modern today but I guess it's back to the 90's again for me ffs!!

[@Kiesmander]

"Rimworld but you're building your own space ship". Have you ever tried the Rimworld mod Save Our Ship 2?

[@Joshuancsu]

Space Pontoon... no no no. Space Catamaran = Space Cat

[@ATZag135]

ThankYou SirSpla77

[@dogtato]

maybe the weird AI behavior is what caused the apocalypse. everyone got too attached to their calendar

[@ts25679]

Hey Splatty, just an FYI the pot in potable is pronounced more like potent.

[@michaelwoodhams7866]

I played this game for a good while a year or more ago, but there came a point where I wanted to build the biggest ship possible, and because of limitations in sum of ship size over the fleet, the only way I could do this was to build a small ship which could support my sizeable crew, dismantle my (by now rather large) starting ship completely, and only then could I start on the big ship. I got bored in this process and dropped it. Has this flaw been fixed?

[@stevestumpprejvold3361]

This game needs co op srsly

[@Kane-5263]

A great game, but if that did not change one with a huge miss in my eye. On release It was impossible to leave people on a station and come back later or build a second ship and go separate way / switch between them. I hope that is a new feature or one that is planned for later releases

[@AnunnakiAaron]

Yeah, it would be cool, if when you managed to get/make a second ship, if they could split up and do missions separate from one another.

[@Cody18pl]

Great game:)

[@Mikeyfromtheblock1]

now I want to play rimworld again

[@ivanjeh4493]

Splat's Condensed Review of the game: 40:10

[@Rikonian]

As a good note I don't think you mentioned in your video, most derelicts cant be reclaimed. Only ones marked as *claimable* can be claimed

[@frownmastr]

i really like the aesthetic of this game, but I'm having such a hard time understanding how to build stuff and really get into it. I think they need to put some serious time into the opening tutorial, because at least for me, their popups dont really cut it.

[@jonbower194]

I think he said rimworld 100 times, gees dude...

[@mondrometal]

Just bought the game. It fixes tons of crap that i don't like about Rimwolrd. Hopefully it gets some attention as it is a legit contestant to Rw.

[@asgard1913]

a man named nana

[@Ulvetann]

Awesome game, but a little hellish to get into it. There are a million teeny details to get down before being able to actually develop.

[@msolomonii9825]

just looked at some older screenshots, does look like they did a graphics upgrade.

[@Wolfsheim23]

I've seen you play this game a lot and I keep kinda wanting to try it out but I just don't see enough conflict or threats to make the game interesting enough to me. I want more tension, more reason to buildup, more reason to explore and improve your ship. Its just too slow I think. It needs regular alien threats, pirates, possible virus or mutant infestations in your crew or on your ship, etc.

[@justsayin2085]

Did they put sounds in this game yet? Like footsteps or something.

[@momashi69]

Are going to do a deep dive on twitch for this game ?

[@richardlayton7184]

Going to have to reload it...

[@LTBLACKCOAT]

Eh, the simplicity of the electronic system seems a mistake, but the continued support is a good sign (cant say I see a noticeable difference at a glance however).

[@uscmhudson5504]

Hey Splat, it would be nice if you paid this a follow up. It seems like you're doing allot of follow up videos lately.

[@legueu]

I hate being that late

[@maep3522]

hi i know im very late to this but I just wanna ask if this is a game that requires you to do daily logging in to maintain the state of your ship/world. because i cannot be available daily and just want a casual game to log in, do some chores/improvements, and visit again sometime in the future to the same exact situation with nothing coming into ruin or needing me to restart from the top.

[@mbielcik]

🖤

[@ezequielblanco8659]

Dude, I understand this game is similar to Rimworld in some aspects, and I also understand that you love Rimworld . In fact, I own Rimworld and I also think Rimworld is an awesome game. But I suggest you don't mention and praise Rimworld that much when doing a review of another game. Now I want to play Rimworld more than I want to play this game. I have nothing but respect for you, man. It's just a suggestion.

[@gamingtonight1526]

I prefer Startopia, been playing it for years!

[@sarahbeth8452]

Ok! I am

[@jac6548]

hypoxic means low-oxic lol

[@DoomedPaladin]

Ah, Monstar... that takes me back... kzbin.info/www/bejne/p52YomeKjt13ndU I love games with lots of pop culture references.

[@gabriellang7998]

It's not a colony survival. It's a roguelike ship survival :|

[@momashi69]

Also why do you delete old twitch videos. Are you limited by twitch?

[@OldieWan]

Dear SplatterCatGaming community. I was wondering if you would all be open to review a game called Wrestling Empire? The game has done something very special when it comes to wrestling games. This is the game I had dreams about being a reality back in the late 80's when playing Pro Wrestling on the NES and other wrestling titles of the 1990's. Forget about those mainstream wrestling titles. Wrestling Empire would be a great addition to your video logs. Anyone else out here who doesn't know about Wrestling Empire, do yourself a favor and check it out. I am having a blast with that game!

[@OldieWan]

Wrestling Empire Does Better Than WWE 2K20 and other mainstream titles!

[@Marshal_Nemesis]

great.. now make the game on unreal engine 5, instant goty

[@6543dann]

No late game.

[@TheDeadCobraTheDeadCobra]

How the hell is a Apocalypse happening in SPACE its a planetary thing not universal thing If you want to do a better separation from the engines make separated floors, cause this isn't a ship its a coffin I do not get why so much metal is left alone why not salvage all the metal it makes no sense in resource management games leaving anything behind Wait what is the excuse of your characters not knowing what happened to the world?

[@superfinalcountdown1]

I really want to like this game however I find it extremely boring after just a short while. Something with the resource collection, crafting and system jumping just doesn't do it for me.

[@loaded_iserdawg]

UFO vibes anyone ?

[@someonenamedbob]

Rimworld Is kinda a piece of crap. The game just rips off and bastardizes dwarf fortress and dungeon keeper. Worst of all the game lacks any sense of ambition or depth. The influence of Rimworld on magement Sims and similar games has not been a positive one.

[@TOMMMCAT]

I really like your content but in this video all u did is talking with almost no gameplay. Sorry but after 10 min the video bece really really boring.

[@KeimpeJ]

Why are you yelling?

[@Jafmanz]

I fail to understand how you have so many subs with such a grating voice. i wanted to watch this video a lot but you make it painful.

[@TheDeadCobraTheDeadCobra]

What aesthetic you are talking about your coffin it looks like shit you are not even trying to make it better, you are not even starting to try to improve the design

[@stevieg6418]

Well done not picking up anything at all in that alien ship....

[@markdowse3572]

Crafting ? Not for me. EVER. In ANY game. M 🦘🏏😎