Space Marine 2 - The BEST Heavy Class Build Guide | Max Level Ruthless

[@LegacyGamingUS]

Check out all of our Space Marine 2 end-game build guides below: Tactical - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rouzo3WjgNyBbdU Bulwark - kzbin.info/www/bejne/foeYp2ShhNeme9k Heavy - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKOcenutZtKmb9k Sniper - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHanpaF9iqpkl8k Vanguard - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jISvfHxrZZmlm5Y Assault - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZK3np-ufdtmfdk

[@AllegedlySomebody]

It'd be really funny if you did sniper last

[@boaz2578]

*tyrannids

[@amcspaceape1580]

From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call the temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal…

[@G8oo8N8]

Iron Hands. 10th legion.

[@SuperMrSkully]

Praise the Omnisia

[@G8oo8N8]

@amcspaceape1580 are you a table top player by chance?

[@remingtonpenaranda7762]

Iron hands ✋️

[@amcspaceape1580]

@G8oo8N8 not me personally, but I have friends who are. I definitely want to get into it

[@jasongordon1968]

Them: you're best suited for mid to long range Me with a multi melta: *pathetic*

[@consolplyrsrpoor2459]

me af

[@stevenmarler5154]

Range has no meaning when you can be swarmed from any direction.

[@connman8d617]

​@@stevenmarler5154the Heavy is surprisingly good at sustaining even without the Melta. Your AOE stomp attack is quite good at creating gunstrike opportunities which keep you topped off and in the fight.

[@ArnovonDargen]

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[@dnewton1982]

This. I always take point with my melta and use iron halo for my squad mates to take cover

[@warriorfire8103]

3:18 old video but worth mentioning. OverCharger does not effect the plasma weapons, it only effects the melee stomps. (unless it's a bug of course) Don't underestimate the Heavy's stomps however. Learn how to start it quickly and off a light attack. It doesn't have a hit limit like melee weapons and will give you free gunstrikes on minoras enemies so it's a great way to keep your armor up. Heavy is a true Space Marine so if you can get good at parry and melee combat in general, you're gun play will skyrocket too because you won't be running, you'll be killing.

[@ourlordandsavioredupes4102]

Guys I HIGHLY recommend using the final heavy bolter with increased accuracy. It turns it into a damn laser beam and totally demolishes chaos marines to the face. It is the only variant where you can actually go for damn near all headshots. It is so strong if you are accurate.

[@fusionclean]

Thx for the advice

[@MrMcPain]

@@JC101Zero I took the L and grinded most on dif 2 and 3 towards the relic stage because most randoms are conflips at best. If you got frineds to play with its more than fine but yeah I would not recommend going into ruthless without Relic if playing with randoms, its just agony.

[@hawk9mm]

Yeah I don't get the sacrifice 3 full accuracy rating for 1 extra point of damage, what's the point when you miss 50% of the shots.

[@warriorfire8103]

@@hawk9mm ya. I've pushed the power one and on occasion it'll suddenly shine. But that doesn't hold a candle to being able to send every shot down the pipe. Max accuracy has been by far the best set up for swarm and heavy clear.

[@ArnovonDargen]

INTO THE FIRES OF BATTLE, UNTO THE ANVIL OF WAR (my heavy will be a salamander)

[@valbroderick8156]

Spam that Multi-melta Battle Brother! Vulkan Lives!

[@ArnovonDargen]

​@@valbroderick8156 Yes my brother we will purge the heretics for the emperor, for vulkan and for man, woman and child!

[@SeeYouRyu2032]

My faith in my multi-melta as a Salamander has made me unstoppable. For as our gene-sire, I am a Perpetual.

[@BlitzedNostradamus]

My heavy is a Black Templar. He has a tendency to evaporate entire cardinal directions with a multi-melta, because multi-melta solves all problems.

[@jaylenharris343]

Agreed Brotha!

[@joenutz3872]

Anyone else think it’s weird that heavy has the same amount of armour as most of the other classes?

[@andreaandolina7199]

Strictly speaking of armour. Gravis pattern still has a 3+ save. It gives a better toughness, so maybe reducing damage to the health bar could be more accurate

[@puenboy1]

@@andreaandolina7199 Phobos still has a 3+ save too tho

[@EA-wr2xg]

in PVP they have the most armor, buuuut armor doesn't save you from melee attacks in PVP so your pretty vulnrable if you get caught out by assaults or bulwarks lol

[@whiteshadow1189]

Would be nice if the heavy could also carry more grenades especially to compensate for the lack of melee

[@howardxu8050]

@@whiteshadow1189heavy can regenerate grenades with a perk, but it is not very reliable tbh

[@VoidEternal]

Change "Coolant Reserve" to "Death March" or something and make it so when you have 1 or both squad mates within a few meters of you (Say, 5-10 meters out of Iron Halo's Range) your weapon overheats at 50%/100% less. That way it's still limited, but you can utilize it cohesively as a squad to buff yourself if you really need covered like that.

[@wolfhunter98]

I wish the perks would be tied to loadout. So you can change them mid mission based on the weapon.

[@LegacyGamingUS]

Yep, that was one of our complaints in the review

[@monarch4669]

Good for you/us that they will Change that so you can Change even the skilltree Route when changing

[@wolfhunter98]

@@LegacyGamingUS Was more agreeing with that statement. Sorry if it came off in another way.

[@wolfhunter98]

@@monarch4669 Nice.

[@CaptainSamuelRex]

to be honest, I consider the Heavy class to be the best class. Want minigun that shreds hordes? We got it. Want heavy weapon that fires huge plasma bolts at enemies? We got it. Want up close super shotgun that uses melta rounds? We got it. You can run melee with the multi-melta, run heavy damage with the plasma incenerator, or go fast suppresive fire with the heavy bolter

[@flipdipple7899]

Also alot of heavies seem to forget this. Your charged melee attack is an aoe. If your getting swarmed. OPEN THE CROWD! the heavies I see will just go down unloading while I'm trying to defend them

[@foxxcharmer]

Which gun you using?

[@flipdipple7899]

@foxxcharmer heavy bolter. Just not enough crowd damage from up close up imo. Multimelta is a different story tho

[@CaptainSamuelRex]

@@foxxcharmer Heavy bolter, getting the higher tier ones makes it a beast

[@honestbenny]

Tactical, Sniper and Heavy are my top 3.

[@chetmanley1885]

Not a class I was that interested in but the more I've seen the more I want to try it. If I could make a proper Crimson Fist it'd be perfect.

[@CyrodiilCome]

Who thought we wouldn't want to change the hand color? There are like 12 chapters who's entire scheme is dependent on hand color lmao

[@chetmanley1885]

​@@CyrodiilCome hopefully there's an IF cosmetic pack that rectifies it. May need to be a specific armour piece like the deathwatch arm.

[@djzl05l]

You might end up like me and make a proper fisting of majoris targets with the Heavy. With the multi melta, i end up in the thick of things and taking out waves of minor mobs until elites show up and use the melta to stagger and execute them. I cant let anyone say my Black Templar heavy is afraid of melee lol

[@chetmanley1885]

​@@djzl05lbeen a few days and I've found out you were right, melta is amazing (once you get a decent ammo reserve).

[@masonadair4974]

CHARCHARADONS 🦈

[@valuxbox9594]

Charcharadon terminator armor with double lightning claws, hell yeah

[@whiteshadow1189]

Thought I was the only carcharodon in the game let alone a heavy, not exactly their style though I know 😅

[@consolplyrsrpoor2459]

tbh ive been following the bottom tree for the most part for the multi melta gun. Ive enjoyed the range bonus while only using the gun that boosts damage. This is still a pretty phenomenal guide but being in the thick of it with the range perks added into the gun with mastery points have been a great trade off imo. The perk stats with heavy ive seen have been great, still mixing it around a little bit but im not sure how to really perfect it. Seems like its all just personal preference

[@Xariann]

Thanks for this guide as well. Other half was having some pain points with the heavy and now they can deal pain with it!

[@Scottysaweet]

Should be called the melta class because its easily the best weapon and its not even close

[@porkerpete7722]

Aba the 'Meta' gun

[@maitrenibyat5225]

Meta ? U dnt have mele weapon.. Its a support class

[@Scottysaweet]

@@maitrenibyat5225 heavy doesn’t have a melee weapon- they use their primary gun to melee with - it’s not very effective

[@maitrenibyat5225]

@@Scottysaweet i know its my main class

[@choosenundead4428]

​@@Scottysaweetlol no melee weapon compare in melee effectiveness with multi melta, lol and I don't see any other 'melee' class deal dmg close to me. Support rly?

[@xghostskullx1490]

Thank you for all your builds day one.

[@vik1837]

As a BW my best friends are sniper and heavy 🙏! Thank you my thick brothas!

[@parkerfenelon3036]

As a person I’m really liking the heavy class got the game not too long ago but having a lot of fun, friends took other fun classes so I’m let me be the terminator and mow down through tyranids. I am definitely liking the heavy bolter so far my perks just need to be higher only a level 4 or 5 idk 🤷🏼‍♂️ but we grinding tryna get as much xp and armor data.

[@JoshyWolfy]

"For Russ and the Allfather!" Long Fang of the Red Moons Company

[@DemianX6x6x6X]

i wish more people understood the importance of teamplay in this game

[@AnimaNovum]

I would like to add that this class, just like the sniper, is more dependend on your Team than others. You can keep their backs really good but if they dont Look out for yours too it can get ugly very Quick. Not sure how it looks on higher difficulties but i often find myself having a hard time keeping up with the Team as a heavy. That in return leads to me getting surrounded by newly spawned enemies or worse a Terminator or venator while my teammates pushing ahead. :/

[@stempunkr]

Is anyone else moderately disappointed by the plasma cannon?

[@honestbenny]

It's good range AOE as opposed to MM being close range AOE. So: 1. PC can start deleting hordes from far away due to range and being anble to soft Warriors without dodge spamming into them. 2. MM on the other hand packs bigger punch but you need to be close or run towards range enemies to get them in range. Imo they are quite well balanced to each other. The problem is heavy bolter - it sucks on Ruthless vs anything that is not trash mob.

[@Awahl415]

The projectile speed and the fact that you have to arch your shots holds the weapon back. And getting the perk to increase projectile speed requires dedicating to the bottom skill tree which as a whole is not great.

[@fguocokgyloeu4817]

Until Artificer tier yes.

[@noxvannachtmahraut4174]

hey love the game and your content man. high quality on the video and the gameplay is rock solid. i have a question. is it just me or is the leveling of weapons actualy super slow. i have a 25 vanguard now and a 18 heavy. on my heavy it feels like it takes a metric ton of games until i get progress on the gun experience. i want to level all 3 of them. i also instantly unlocked all the guns in the tier and completed the mastery with points so i dont need to grind "bad" variations of the weapon but still its very tedious and slow. any advise on that topic would be lovely i mean it is what it is then wich is a lot of grind on grind on grind

[@zerzo7223]

yeah upgrading weapons takes a lot of time, i guess they made it that way to push people to try different variation but with the balance actually certain weapons are just a no no go xD

[@oplox]

The only honor I require is protecting my brothers.

[@Notorious_Flash]

Heavy with the metla and the right perks he is deadly trust me I main heavy in MP also people be really surprised

[@KingdonIV]

in the words of the Scab Gunner from darktide, i hereby vow these words will be used against the Mutant, the Heretic, The Alien. *HEAR ME ROAR*

[@Raikioru]

I really love the heavy class in SM2, the only thing bad about this class is that if you have aggro from 2 or 3 tyranid warriors for example I problaby gonna die 😂😅

[@TrazynPrime]

Welcome to heavy one word? Dakka,

[@hassandabo6288]

the day we get a heavy flamer is the day heavy will become my main

[@elementalmanny1]

We should get it soon cuz the heavy flamer is already in the game 👍🏽

[@hassandabo6288]

@@elementalmanny1 if you’re talking about the one in campaign that’s just a normal flamer and it was trash against normal enemies 😭

[@jaxsonfanta5420]

Heavy is the best character in the game, and you can’t convince me otherwise. But my favorite thing about him is, besides the melta, all of his weapons are actually strong and useful. His melta breaks the game however and if you want to be the guy with 29k range damage and just walking up soloing hordes with ease that it’s actually boring, then go the melta route Seriously try it, it is so unbelievably broken, that I hope it gets nerfed (or everything else buffed) because currently nothing comes close pve

[@Elthenar]

Two things. One, always take the 20% extra health perk. Whenever you encounter a gear locker, if you interact with it and just take the same loadout, it gives you full ammo AND full health. It's a bug but while it's still there, use it. Two, the Elite Restoration weapon perk doesn't work. At least not reliably. I've heard it works for some people sometimes but I've never seen it trigger and a lot of people have the same problem.

[@ggaccentc]

Best defensive ability and best gun...what's not to love?

[@valbroderick8156]

Im just hoping they release a heavy flamer for the release tomorrow

[@ProbablyFat]

Man they need to buff weapons across the board and lower damage of the little monsters

[@changball1]

Legacy in each category the version of the weapon would you recommend?

[@LegacyGamingUS]

You want to purchase and level them all up along the way because it gives you Mastery Points.

[@whiteshadow1189]

Heavy class should be able to carry more grenades to compensate for the melee

[@DejectedCat]

Heavy is definitely the most difficult class to play... The lack of mobility while in stance means you get swarmed very very very easily. Combined with the lack of effective tool to fight off close quarter enemies. It's extremely unforgiving to the point that it's way more trouble for it's worth for most players.

[@mtk1808]

I've been using a lot of heavy and you are right, you get swarmed very easily and the lack of melee really hinders your battle capabilities, top that with low ammo and it's a cumbersome class. I feel it needs a high skill ceiling in order to be viable, strong weapons, sure, but it has a good learning curve.

[@lordfarquad7750]

Heavy is the class ive clicked with. Multi Melta plus plasma pistol is the meta for this class definitely. Been able to carry and clutch up lobbies and that's playing 5 levels below what the recommended level is.

[@avalokiteshvara113]

idk what you're talking about - im finding it super intuitive and badass. I carry my teams with heavy

[@avalokiteshvara113]

@@mtk1808 it got a great melee, but its main for getting OUT of swarms. use the heavy attack and gunstrike to grab an armor charge and then run toa new loc

[@Naughty-Carlos]

Multi melter literally stops swarms dude you blast through 10/15 enemies in 1 blast and stun elites in 3/4 shots on substantial

[@janovmi2]

melta range or firea rate? both perks and weapon variant ... cant decide if i want to mix the opposites or stack one, and if so which one

[@wolfhunter98]

12:02 IDK how you're meant to win on hard or very hard. The amount of crap tossed at you and the amount of bullets they eat is insane.

[@SAMcGarvey1]

Their should be a heavy perk to do those perfect dodge/parry pistol shots, but with your primary

[@allbriardup6451]

The perk which removes overheating while allies are down doesn’t incentivize you to let them die as you do more damage when your overheating is at 50%, it’s there so if things are really bad you have an ace to your sleeve to clutch the situation. I mainly play as a heavy and I never feel like my allies being downed is a positive because if they remain up I have less agro.

[@LegacyGamingUS]

That's our whole point. A perk that rewards you for 66% of your team failing isn't good perk design. Almost all of the time it will never provide any benefit, meanwhile the bottom perk will provide benefit every 30s - 1 min.

[@allbriardup6451]

@@LegacyGamingUS It isn’t rewarding you for 2/3 of your team failing, it’s an “in case” perk, it’s situational, it makes sense and variety is the spice of life, so having the option is better than not. *see previous post.

[@LegacyGamingUS]

It's giving you a different experience ONLY IF 2/3rds of your team fail. Of course it is an incase perk, but why ever take an "incase perk" if your other perk substantially increases your teams potential survival constantly?

[@Rathammergames]

Can you re-spec afterwards?

[@LegacyGamingUS]

You can respec weapon perks and your class perks at any time.

[@orion3298]

​@@LegacyGamingUSoh my god this is great

[@chrisjordan2784]

How do i know what stage you pick for the guns when they are green or any color they make you choose between 2 or 3 guns

[@diggles27]

Very nice

[@Kevin-zz9du]

Let's hope they don't kill the game by starting an endless nerfing spree like Helldivers 2 did... Nothing is OP. No nerfs needed on anything.

[@cheesanchez24]

question, why is my bolt rifle fires like its semi auto matci rather than fully auto and charges while you hold the fire button, is it bugged? using heavy bolter alpha.

[@the4thhorseman840]

I love the heavy class, but it gets difficult to play when surrounded by hords of enemies, and it takes way too many rounds just to put down small enemies. Some small enemies can survive a close range shot from the melta. Maybe I'm playing wrong.

[@Theemptythroneistaken]

Your definitely playing it wrong!

[@the4thhorseman840]

@@Theemptythroneistaken Emporer, forgive me.🥺

[@Theemptythroneistaken]

@the4thhorseman840 It's honestly probably the most broken class out of the lot ATM (It's gonna get nerfed I can smell it)

[@jaxsonfanta5420]

@@Theemptythroneistakenit’s absolutely bonkers how overpowered that melta is….. It should be nerfed honestly, there’s no challenge and you steal the joy from everyone you’re playing with if you go melta heavy

[@Theemptythroneistaken]

@jaxsonfanta5420 It's pretty lore accurate though lol imo instead of nerfing they should buff the other guns whilst simultaneously make the enemy factions a tad more stronger especially the elite level mobs.

[@edwardjones7412]

How is the heavy stomp done on PC

[@Amicals]

Right click then hold right click I think

[@TheNorseCrow]

So, how does Death Strike ( 10:16 ) work when the Heavy doesn't have a melee weapon? Or does it just mean melee attack? Are finishers considered melee weapons?

[@Naughty-Carlos]

Yes and yes. Charged melee stomps is great and running attack also good procs death March

[@majmage]

Seems like *Plasma Incincerator* is just terrible. Assume the footage (8:32) is with the weapon/perks mentioned against max level, you have (A) one weapon killing a very large corridor of those enemies *and* doing crushing armor-piercing damage (Multimelta) vs. (B) a second weapon where you have to charge to take one shot to kill ~4 horde enemies, with probably negligible damage against the Chaos Warrior. I was wondering if it'd be like Power Fist where it's just the first weapon that's bad (with Fists even the first mastercrafted upgrade seems to make it pretty comparable to your other options, and it even looks like it'll be slightly better than the other types at max upgrades?), but I guess with Plasma Incin the entire weapon type is bad currently. Between matchmaking, balance, content, and music, this game has a long way to go. (That awkward moment when SM2's music is so bland that most videos use Darktide's awesome music instead.)

[@DanTheMan-n5p]

I have found that if you dont have a heavy in your group, youre gonna have a bad time.

[@krismurillo7882]

How do you use your sidearm? I tried all buttons and cannot use it

[@LegacyGamingUS]

You swap to it with whatever button you have to cycle weapons.

[@mtk1808]

What i dont understand is when should i use what weapon. There seems to be different playstyles for the guns but i dont understand them.

[@lordfarquad7750]

Easy, Multi-Melta is your get out of jail free card, use for big groups. plasma pistol for range/single target enemies

[@chetmanley1885]

Second multi melta; unless you have a solid team you won't get the most out of them

[@gentarafi7005]

why is elite restoration not working for me

[@honestbenny]

I love Heavy but MAN... heavy bolter sucks so much vs MM and PI. Seriously, you need to put SO MANY FREAKING SHOTS into one warrior on Ruthless while with MM/PI at least I can stun lock group of 5-6 Warriors till they are Executable. Heavy bolter needs a massive buff and needs to pierce Warriors block and shields becasue it's just stupid that small deamons with shield can just casually block and Heavy Bolter on full auto....

[@coletrain6545]

Not having a melee weapon is crippling but having a multi melta helps

[@Naughty-Carlos]

Charged melee stomp still good stuns and kills trash mobs easily and running charge attack

[@vcp009]

Me Bigg!!! Me Gunn!! Me Kill!!!

[@Darthnoob699]

I AM HEAVY WEAPONS GUY

[@skydex_1871]

Can someone explain the benefits of the heavy stance please ?

[@minus8162]

Heavy stance gives you more rapid fire and better aim at the cost of movement

[@skydex_1871]

@@minus8162 ok thank you !

[@roxybo1]

death strike perk does not make sense to me, we dont have melee weapons and primary does garbage melee dmg

[@braxtonw1993]

Overcharge only buffs melee attack now.. :(

[@alexandreranaldi5987]

the bolter is a F nerf gun ! 70-100 round for an elite ? seriously ?... heavy bolter shot ammo like tennis ball normaly

[@Grimlock987]

What is heavy stance?

[@LegacyGamingUS]

When you aim down sights with thr weapon, you enter into a slow heavy stance

[@Grimlock987]

⁠, thanks for that!

[@diggles27]

Can allies shoot thru iron halo?

[@LegacyGamingUS]

Yes!

[@Aetheriaxx]

Heavy should be at the back? If anything I would suspect this class to be close to medium range due to the (literal) heaviest armor class in the game and weapons. Are you saying melee just isnt viable with heavy? A multi melta close range powerhouse utilizing stomps and weapon swings sounds like my space marine wet dream. Something tells me you guys are playing a bit conservative for the class, but then again ill have to see for myself.

[@LegacyGamingUS]

We mentioned the Multi-Melta is closer range oriented, but yes, mid to long range is where you wanna be. You're super susceptible to getting swarmed by small enemies if you are too close.

[@joshchrisbosh5526]

Need the sniper build please🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@LegacyGamingUS]

It's right around the corner

[@blakereed92]

That's easy, it's pick the Las Fusil and anything that makes it better, lol

[@synergy793]

Some of the class perks are lack luster IMO

[@prich0382]

What is "Heavy Stance", you keep saying it in the video

[@LegacyGamingUS]

When you aim down sights with a heavy weapon, you become slower and unable to parry attacks. That's heavy stance.

[@thejester1039]

​@@LegacyGamingUS Thanks! This wasn't entirely clear.

[@cruselove]

They made the heavy class a supporters now that is sad a heavy gun as a supporters does not sound right the sniper should have been the support class

[@flipsvstheworld]

Damn, Heavy kinda lacking in weapons and skills. I knew he wasn't gonna be that impressive as he is straight foward mob control, but still...pretty mid.

[@ArnovonDargen]

Yeah I was hoping for a flamer for my salamander bretheren but I don't know if that's just campaign or if it will come later

[@flipsvstheworld]

@@ArnovonDargen i think the flamer is on another class, or just in the campaign atm. Still, for me, it's the Heavies skills that come off as too passive for me. Quick swapping between sidearms, and planting my feet as I activate my ult would be fine if it wasn't just 10% more damage and 15% faster cooldown. At least increase the range and accuracy of the primary weapons a bit more or decrease the bullet spread. Either way, it's not completely awful. Just underwhelming.

[@rongyangyi4500]

@@ArnovonDargen In Legacy's review vid today they said it's only campaign and not very good in its current state...Perhaps they'd put it on Heavy once they worked on it a bit more

[@StangMan06]

just wondering if you have a video in the works for maybe how to use a controller for this game and how to set it up? i can use my controller in other games but this game its not letting me right now??

[@Get_Milked]

Lul noob

[@violetspider_]

The plasma suck on any weapon

[@TELEVISIBLE]

Heavy is overpowered when max out

[@mopeyhornet9213]

Yea heavy is op in pvp went three games in a row with 3.0 kdr lol

[@drestranged4106]

Leveling takes forever tell me you didn't use a trainer without telling me lmfao ... man's got everything mastered max level everything ..

[@LegacyGamingUS]

Once you get a group and a solid understanding of map mechanics/enemies, takes about 8 hours to max level a class

[@blacktigerace6687]

​@@LegacyGamingUSimagine having a friends who buying this game and want to progress together

[@WhiteWorgenCorp]

This is heresy, have to wait 1 more day for this gold and now youtube is plastered with full game gameplay. >

[@JJS563]

I feel like the Heavy class should get more ammo and an extra 2 grenades or so. Its fun but competent team mates are highly recommended

[@shield-sc]

way prefer the multi melta vs the other weapons.

[@caseydeshazo679]

Fail! How do I level it. Where do points come from I've been playing for days and leveled -zero- why!!

[@EcchiRevenge]

So glad there's no flamethrower in SM2 operations; flamercucks are such a burden to the team at top difficulty karktide.

[@ArnovonDargen]

Also does anyone know if this will be coming to gamepass? @LegacyGaming?

[@Nate_The_Great9]

It's not: devs said on the FAQ on their site that it won't be coming over to Gamepass

[@ArnovonDargen]

Oh

[@ArnovonDargen]

Well shit

[@kilz5752]

buy the game bro. game pass gives out too many free rides as is

[@ArnovonDargen]

​@@kilz5752 It's like £60 I only have £15 and my income is not speedy so I'll be playing it months behind everyone else which will make me feel like shit cus I was super excited

[@bagalas87]

So I tried the Multi Melta, granted i'M only lvl 12 it was absoluely impossible to do anything with it. One single majoris mob needs 5 shots to die. The first 2 shots deleted all minoris mob then only 5 majoris mob remained and I was out of ammo by the time I killed 3 of them. Then I could not do anything. The most success I had was with the heavy bolter but even with that I'm out of ammo all the time. A single majoris mob needs about 40-50 headshots to die from the heavy bolter. And if that would not be enough it takes time. time that allows the other dozen majoris mob and the countless minoris to freely run around and do what they like. It is absolutely utterly ridicolous how much HP the majoris mobs have (difficultgy lvl3) makes the game feels like a grind you have to do with 3 newspaper wrapped around you as armor, while every attack you suffer makes you stagger and enemy mobs shoot at you unfazed while you keep pumping their head with heavy bolter rounds. Totally destroyes any fun the game has. I dont know who was the one that decided higher difficulty should be a simple HP and dmg buff for the mobs but should be improsied for crimes against humanity.

[@Weedknight-oi9zc]

I have maxed every class too 25 and imo heavy is the worst. Only the worst of players need more ammo

[@kilz5752]

yo can the game come out and marinate before youtubers start dropping "build" videos that will immediately kill the immersion by having every heavy player run the same exact fuckin loadout

[@LegacyGamingUS]

Our builds often show at least 3 top tier weapon choices to avoid that, but we always say all weapons are viable.

[@kilz5752]

@@LegacyGamingUS if all weapons are viable leave it up to the players to construct their own loadouts. videos like these ruin the hell out of online games every time. especially with a platform like your, these people are going to do exactly what you say and just like that, the creativity is gone bro

[@simplyfitness892]

@@kilz5752please shut up, it makes zero difference to you. The dude is just making a living doing something he likes. I don’t care for these builds heck I don’t even use heavy but why tf does it matter lol it’s just a video to help people.

[@kilz5752]

@@simplyfitness892 yo when you start paying this phone bill and this electricity bill and this wifi bill, you can tell me what to do with my shit. until then, i aint doing shit boy. i'll speak my mind on the shit that i PAY for broski

[@McDinglefart_69]

@@kilz5752 stop crying boy