CitizenCon2024: A Huge Moment for Star Citizen & Squadron 42 (Ft. Sulyce) | Launch Sequence Podcast

[@AceTheZhero]

Listen to you every day while at work cleaning. Can't thank you enough for all you do with keeping up on info and everything SC!!

[@BTV_Cast]

🙏🏻 Thanks for listening / watching this one!

[@AccidentalFriendlyFire]

I'm with you (though different duties). Work is the only time I have to listen to this!

[@BTV_Cast]

This was a pleasure to record with you! Even if half of what we predicted comes true, I am going to LOVE this CitizenCon. Until next time, friend!

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

Thanks so much for joining me my friend! Even at 5 AM!

[@ArtemisTGM]

When is the luke stephens collab??

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

That'll be published the week after CitizenCon, so 2 weeks from this post.

[@404fox9]

One way queues are reduced is by distributing players to different servers based on their starting selection area You can divide the number of total players on the shard evenly by the number of LZs by sending the overflow to other instances They could also slowly raise server cap at the start to allow for a flow of people exiting the LZs Major city LZs will never be big enough to handle several hundred people at once without looking like ridiculously long hallways of elevators/kiosks. More LZs is the solution. ArcCorp's Areas 1-17 might be a low-hanging fruit.

[@alexcheskie9446]

I’m kind of thinking Old Babbage, AREA69, and another city like orison, etc. Edit: didn’t read the end you were thinking the same thing 😂

[@airforcedrone23]

This was my concern when i heard about multiple people being at the main stations or even space station. Main stations and Space station work just like real life aviation, where ATC (Air Traffic Controllers) do their best to fly in and out an aircraft roughly a mile a part. I believe Atlanta's Airport can manage about 2-3 aircrafts a minute coming in and out.

[@Haegemon]

Yes, spread the players through different settlements around the planet. The actual habs could be reserved for non-residents by their starting selection. And this taking into account that login won't requie a bed because they want us to spawn wherever we logout. The same goes for hangars. In real life we got large commercial airports and smaller secondary airports.

[@MidnightWolfSDJ]

Yeah I think a lot of people don’t realize that there will be game systems that will navigate the issue of overpopulation in LZ’s. Once SC is no longer wiped, and is totally persistent, the servers will stabilize with people being spread out after the initial launch of total persistence. People will start populating planets and setting up settlements, where they most likely will log off and on for the most part. This gets people away from landing zones and they most likely won’t got to LZ’s other than to talk to mission givers, socialize, purchase ships, clothes, and gear, etc. Also another thing to remember is once a substantial amount of Star systems are in place, people will be spread out even more across multiple system. Dynamic server meshing will be the ultimate tool to help lower the amount of people in an area by instancing them to a new plane of existence, if too many people are in an area. This will help with the cue lines and waiting as the population will stabilize to what makes sense for that particular area. I look forward to the day when we log back in in the same spot we logged out. I want beds to do what other games do and that is rest bonuses. The freedom to log out in a spot and log back in the same spot is yet another great thing that will spread people out. There most certainly will be edge cases where a huge amount of people decide to congregate in one space for whatever reason. But with all game systems working, in most normal cases, there won’t be too many people in the same spot.

[@Nemoticon]

For those who don't already know 'The Stars My Destination' is actually an AMAZING sci-fi novel by Alfred Bester. If reading classic sci-fi is your kind of thing and you haven't already done so, READ IT!!!👍

[@Halrin]

For the clothing discussion I think it should be carrots not sticks to avoid community backlash. Dressing for the part has a tangible benefit on reputation gain, or different dialogue options etc. Not wearing the right clothes is fine, you can still access the content but maybe dressing for the part means you can skip a 'prove yourself' mission, or gain rep twice as fast for a few missions, or get a slightly better payout etc. Hard blocking people who don't have a tuxedo is bound to annoy people but giving them a reason to do it that will benefit them will encourage that behaviour for those who want to engage.

[@Brigadier_Beau]

I dunno. If you have to meet someone in a swanky place, I don't think you should be allowed past the front door if you are armed and smell like you've been wearing the same space suit for two weeks. You will scare off the customers. There should be some that are more lenient, but others absolutely not. You won't even be able to enter the main cities while armed unless you are an approved bounty hunter.

[@Halrin]

@@Brigadier_Beau I totally get that impulse. I personally don't mind that at all as someone who is happy to lean into the roleplay of it all. My main point is CIG needs to use carrots to encourage behaviour they want to see rather than sticks to discourage community members for not engaging with content in a prescribed way. This would minimize the outrage machine. We have many systems currently prioritizing immersion over ease of accessibility. Striking the right balance here will be key to long term success and I am certainly no expert in how to achieve that.

[@tgfover9000]

Star Citizen is about the dream of players never EVER coming to life, this comment is a prime example of what players "think" will happen for them in game, but never will. Their is no reason for clothing, their is no dialogs with a dirrection, only rude npcs at some stores, their is NO real interaction or response or story and you are over here talking about gta6 (possible features) implemented in a game that can't even make concrete and planet grounds solid..... good luck with your dream (it isn't Chris Robberts, you got scammed.) Star Citizens business model is to keep you thinking they will do what YOU want. That's all.

[@playakoz]

Another great show, thanks gentlemen!

[@XeroJin84]

Server meshing isn’t working unless it’s working. It’s progressing. As a developer, I don’t say something is working while it’s in progress. It gives false expectations to stakeholders.

[@cyberiankorninger1025]

I think this is important. Dev myself and a tech like this that is so foundational has to work 100% of the time all the time. Building a full platform like this with extensive multi service/layer architecture is insanely tedious work. Has to be extremely stable, high performance and scaleable. Yes the progress looks great and promising but worst case it could still take 5 years or they could still fail we have no real insight into the true % progression and even if it would be 90% finished I had projects where the last 10% were 99% of the work or where it was cancelled by some outside power or circumstance even though it was almost finished. That said I am cautiously optimistic we might get a real MMO for the first time in SC history.

[@Biggerfoot]

It’s because he is apart of cig content creator program, so he gets paid to advertise the game and because cig isn’t directly paying him he can circumvent FTC laws and not mention it in the video which is breaking the law.

[@zwade612]

​@@BiggerfootAre you okay in the head ?

[@bahdudejhosh_official]

@@BiggerfootWho are these people??? This is day 3 of me asking this question? I swear I’ve seen this exact on Luke Steven’s podcast, almost word for word? Are these bots?? Won’t be surprised, considering the refundians move like such. Such cope in a post lmao😂

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

yeah the first "working" version is still far away from a production-ready state. edit: Although CIG doesnt mind fixing it in PROD anyways xD

[@CosmicD]

I was listening to the resource netork talk of citizencon 2022 and they were talking about how they would allow the pilot to give user rights to player for assigned roles on the ship; So i do hope they will bring this up in the social panel of this citizencon.

[@RicoZaid_]

31:16 Sulyce called it

[@BTV_Cast]

You win some and lose some, but yes, I was correct on this one! We're so close!!!

[@RicoZaid_]

@@BTV_Cast o7

[@AccidentalFriendlyFire]

Reality check moment: base building didn't enter production. It entered PREproduction. I'm not expecting anything in-game. I'm definitely hoping for it, though. :-D

[@o0BaCaRDi0o]

The date was Q1 2024....

[@AccidentalFriendlyFire]

@@o0BaCaRDi0o Yes. For preproduction. From the March 2024 Monthly Report: "Work continued on preproduction for base building..."

[@justalex4214]

"Squadron 42, march 2025" the hopium is strong with this one

[@BTV_Cast]

LOL, I'll stand by my late Q1 / early Q2 prediction, though usually marketing / PR campaigns run half a year, so potentially the summer? I fear it competing with GTAVI whenever that is scheduled to hit.

[@justalex4214]

@@BTV_Cast that's true for regular games and publishers, but CIG has always been a special case with everything they did. Also a q1 / early q2 release would only be possible if they even start off the official marketing campaign during citcon. My personal prediction is that they'll just say "holiday 2025" and release it inbetween citcon and christmas next year. I mean I hope I'm wrong but I didn't really get the feeling that sq42 was almost complete. During citcon last year CR said "feature complete" which basically only means tech. "Content complete" could be god knows how far off. Well, we'll see on saturday :)

[@duxoroxor]

Great conversation. So much respect.

[@BTV_Cast]

We go way back, several shows together... Might need to combine efforts on a Podcast called Beyond the Garden... HAHA. He is such a good dude.

[@scislife2398]

efore dynamic server meshing is in CIG engineers will have to watch traffic constantly and spin up new servers manually to balance the load out

[@cmdrls212]

Yeah right. They will just let it burn like they always do. It's not like CIG has any problems with unplayable desync. it is the norm

[@rooster1012]

That is not possible what you are describing is dynamic server meshing under manual control they have not developed the tech to move people on the fly yet.

[@lights4bre890]

No they will just arrive at a server configuration for whatever patch, ahead of Dynamic Server Meshing. 4:400 for example. Why would they manually need to spin up more servers? - if the player count is headed to 401 that 1 player will just be put into a different game session with up to 399 other people. Theres nothing manual about that.. thats 1 reason they are testing out different static server meshing configurations

[@BeSk9991]

@@cmdrls212 Tbf it's like a job for 1 person :D ... to just set up servers if some nears capacity lol :D

[@cmdrls212]

@@BeSk9991 CIGs solution is dynamic server meshing. They're not going to do crap about it overloaded static servers. if anything they will allow them to happen so they can collect telemetry. you know, their usual memo.

[@hephaestion12]

Oooohhhhh fancy new tomato background ❤

[@buhatkj]

habs could be instanced like hangars. the hab floors and elevators have windows, so they cant per se. they just will have to have more of those. Same thing we've seen with hangars. those can be instanced, but the number of exit doors cant, so again, they just need to be increased. The landing zone spaceports are all easily expandable, so one can imagine how that looks. I wanna see them talk about Terra

[@bryanspencer1509]

Orison seems like a resort in the clouds and I think hostage missions with XeroThreat would be great to see if you schools or family venues that incorporate npc families as hostages to be rescued

[@rooster1012]

The only reason 4.0 was released to Evo is so CR can stand on stage and say look we released 4.0 this year now look at this shiney new ship you can buy.

[@avon_c6199]

You wrote what I had on my mind. With most and anything that CIG has been saying for years, most of which is made to sound like it's "just around the corner", I would be very careful. As the saying goes...don't count your chickens before they're hatched. CIG needs to show factual results, that they can act on their own selfset goals and ideals.

[@AcheliusDecimus]

100 Star Systems may happen when my great-grandkids have kids. Still, if they hit 1.0 with 3 systems fully fleshed out with content, and server meshing is working stable, where we can have at least 100,000 people online at a time. Then they may have a minimum viable MMO, which they can divide by region to relax the overload effects. They may have to shard each major location, so if 50,000 people decide to choose one spawn location they get sharded. Or they lock down the amount of people who can start at one location spreading them out per server as Once human does it now. Polishing for SQ42 is not like other games, as no other game does what CIG is doing with physical entities and gameplay, so 8-12 months does not apply in this case.

[@jbirdmax]

Most MMOs cap out their servers well below 500 players.

[@AcheliusDecimus]

@@jbirdmax Yeah, but I am just quoting CR numbers with his craziness.

[@TheStumafoo]

Maybe 10 years. Judging by their speed of patch releases

[@nebulajumper6216]

Going back and reading everthing on the Kickstarter, Star Citizen was not built to be an MMO (the PU component was ment to be a co-op/small scale online mode to keep you busy while waiting for the next story campaign). This is why they have such a difficulty to make it work. I'm sure that one day it will work .. but it will be very slow. Also, don't forget that even if you have 500 players on 4 or 6 servers, for the moment, missions are not activated. So on top of congestions at elevators,they'll have to keep track of all the mission progression and cargo (things they deactivated during tests). Add to that later on more NPC's, separate engineering components in every ships that can deteriorate or burst into fire, faction progres, player evolution with skills, etc... Will you be able to chat with your friends in they are in another system, etc ... They make progres, but there is still soooooo much to do before server meshing will be working with the features that are available now .. imagine all they still need to add.

[@thepurpleperp4564]

Just some possible context/background to the name Genesis - it's almost certainly in reference to the Genesis Project from Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan - a project effectively meant to take a lifeless planet and create life, although I believe in the movie they ended up accidentally making a planet full of life out of a nebula. In SC terms this could mean a couple different things - 1) Creating living AI and creatures for the existing planets that work together in an ongoing ecosystem. They seem to have been moving in this direction already by adding 3 different animals to the verse. or 2) Creating/generating the planets themselves through some level of procedural/AI generation. OR 3) Some combination of the 2 Hopefully all of this comes with the guidance of a few artists and not purely procedural or left entirely to AI.

[@bryanspencer1509]

There is one critical thing missing from star citizen. I don’t think I ever heard of anyone even mentioning it because ships have been the primary focus. What makes games like Skyrim and Mass Effect great is the population of Nic’s to include children to give it realistic expectations!

[@geofftuck8979]

I think if they implemented ground shields and defense systems, for Outposts, Distribution centers, and or bunkers. It would create a better and more tactical experience. Having to shut down systems before gaining access to the objectives would create a more in depth experience. Ground shields could compliment base building as well, and you could add charge and drain to "Reinforce or Repair" shield systems, would add complexity to missions, and further purpose ground based vehicles. As it stands, tanks don't really have much of a purpose.

[@tgfover9000]

No game has a fan base with such big imaginations as those in star citizen. How about they fix the ground? How about beinf able to place items on tables.. how about a mission that isn't bugged and fixed elevators... you people are out of your pockets as much as you are out of your minds.

[@geofftuck8979]

@tgfover9000 I agree with the ground, missions, and occasional elevator bug, but that's about all I agree with from you. You coulda just created your own comment instead of attacking someone else's? Can't even stay in your own lane. Talk about out of your own mind

[@Brigadier_Beau]

Awesome stream! Great discussion.

[@rakionrql5511]

Do you think that the "not optimized" part of it is because they are running debug tools and performance monitors on the back end to see what is going on with their code for future improvements?

[@bryanspencer1509]

When w wall get to Pyro and see there way of life in won’t seem right without the family elements of how these people have survived!

[@StarMasterX]

They will solve the problem by allowing people to choose which staring location they want. The selection could be in the 1000s

[@o0BaCaRDi0o]

I have thousends in this game, is there any way to get a refund? I lost all hope with mastermodes and the things not even here or not working.

[@nolinohesi3395]

You can sell your account. I think that's all you can do

[@raikuma5432]

instancing is a useful tool for solving issues that don't run into a problem due to the loss of interconnection. i'm on board with any instancing that makes sense, private hangars are a good instancing solution considering CIG can't make space for millions and millions of large square spaces that connect to the world on every station. completely unworkable :P

[@Irishcream216]

At this rate we are more likely to have workable, profitable fusion power and graphene before SC releases a stable 1.0.

[@terencespragg5708]

The bit about skilling up i absolutely hope they do not have a tree system but sadly they did say on unarmed combat surprised take-down skill would increase the more you do it it may include the knife to and with that health strength increases with wearing heavy armour a long time also.😢

[@geofftuck8979]

Next topic i wanted to touch base on is, salvage ships, instead of generating construction materials, it only creates "Scrap" which is then refined into specific materials, either randomly generated, or has enhanced refinements by profession. This would 100% purpose scrap metal as it literally has zero value and importance in the game.

[@kelleylafitte6503]

Areas need to be completely reworked for even 1000+ players at a time. Passageways, alleys, entrances - they're all built for the 100 or so players to use and mostly feel like single player FPS scale hubs. That straight up just will not work with that many players online; there's just not enough space. I think this could be a good thing I personally think we could use an update to a lot of the cities, like having more distinct buildings and (hopium engaged) not rely on color coding cities any more. Never made sense to me how Hurston convinced every organization that uses space there to let them alter their respective branding just to unify the aesthetic or how ArcCorp makes you use brick-red facades everywhere. Marketing ain't cheap

[@Brigadier_Beau]

All 1000 people will not be in the same place. Maybe on launch day it will be very congested, but after that... not so much.

[@kelleylafitte6503]

@@Brigadier_Beau I think they could still stand some expansion, tbh.

[@s1lentw1nter]

With the 4:500 SM players could fully man 41 Polaris ships if the crew count of 12 is correct.

[@Oh_Foe_Sho]

I think instead of having skills maybe just having extra money given by the system based on your reputation in a mission type. So player fee for you to come get them and heal them then the system give you +%UEC. Maybe work this into other loops as well.

[@kiingjackoff]

Genesis sounds like some procedural tech stuff. Stanton is 100gb. Pyro is even bigger. If it scales like this, 5 star systems would be close to half a terabyte. I think a vast amount of star citizen will be procedurally generated. I think you can expect around 4-5 Stanton level star systems in the finished game unless they find a way to compress the game by 75%.

[@TastyPotty]

Imagine getting caught up in this hype again after last year and what we have now.

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

You think of servers wrong, the server we connect to has "authority" over a part of the "verse" in the replication layer.

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

Pretty sure the "legendary" is some armor set we forgot about?

[@monsterrigs8104]

The entire game needs a polishing phase

[@Brigadier_Beau]

Duh! That is the whole point of a game in development.

[@Astralox]

Mr space tomato, question. With perfect smooth ai, how much online players per sector would be needed to make it feel alive. Also for a capital warship battle say 3 capital ships and 100 small ships how much people and ai would make it realistic. So my question is how much minimum players would make you happy and happy and the game feel good.

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

To be honest I'd love to see fleet battles with at least 6 - 9 large ships as well as up to 20 - 30 small ships in between. This would probably include well over 100 players. Not sure if it could be done, but I'm excited to see how close we could get.

[@justbuyintime5157]

@@SpaceTomatoToothe other issue is there isn’t really anything that gives a reason to have a fleet battle outside of just org PvP. There needs to be an objective that would encourage being a fleet to take it.

[@tgfover9000]

The AI is trash! 5his game has the worst pve combat I have EVER experienced, to include games in testing.

[@tgfover9000]

​@@SpaceTomatoToo you all are just riding this out with your own imagination and the commercials CIG brings you. Star citizen is a fantasy more than a sci-fi. What i mean is you all are fantasizing about a sci-fi, based on commercials and no in-game results. Star citizen, espally the last patch is absolute worthless garbage and you all know it. It is my belief you all suffer sunk cost fallacy and want other people to save your fantasy because your investment wasn't enough.

[@justbuyintime5157]

⁠@@tgfover9000 I don’t think he’s saying they are perfect, he more than like asking a what if/when the become reliable. Also the primary reason for the poor ai is due to the need for server messing and high server fps and with those things coming in it should solve some of the issues. We have seen better ai in isolated test show that the tech is required for a game of this scale

[@M4cex]

Am I crazy or is there the same part of the podcast twice? Where you talk about what systems could come after Pyro? And the redacted thingy? Could be my phone messing around.

[@eddyrocksteady1157]

When is SaltEMike gonna be a guest Mr Tomato?

[@purpleyeti705]

Probably not for a while. There's a touch of bad blood with them right now

[@MrScooter1287]

@@purpleyeti705I wouldn’t say Mike has bad blood with anyone. Space Tomato has a problem with anyone he disagrees with and doesn’t fondle CIG’s balls. SaltEMike should just be thankful he hasn’t been labeled “racist” yet by Space Tomato.

[@JSEP1991]

Holy mother of vocal fry from the guest. Great show as always though

[@BTV_Cast]

LOL, I had to look up what vocal fry was. I appreciate you listening and engaging, even if you dislike my voice! Have fun this quarter in-game!

[@JSEP1991]

@@BTV_Castthank you, and I found you very engaging and knowledgeable! Apologies if I offended you, I was being tongue-in-cheek.

[@BTV_Cast]

@@JSEP1991 No worries! You don't get into podcasting without knowing there will be some who don't like your voice. Fair feedback. Thanks for the compliments!

[@stefanbauer423]

Remember kids, nothing that will be promised will be delivered. Its just another "huge moment" for SC smh

[@kwcnasa]

Resume @1:24:00

[@sailyourface]

I will be very disappointed if SQ42 doesn’t have a launch window announced at least (ie fall 2025)

[@BigBobBlazer]

Most backers who have been with the project for years don't get disappointed anymore. Every shortcoming and failed timeline is expected. 🤣

[@Sheppardsg1]

cit con hypeee

[@kishkin8743]

The Citizencon schedule is just sad. I would be belligerent if I paid money to attend and per the schedule it doesn't even really start until 4:30pm on Saturday. The entire morning of the 19th is an inside SC episode.

[@BigBobBlazer]

I'd be upset if I paid money to be manipulated in person instead of the regular ISC/Spectrum/ISC etc. Lol.

[@_Boldheart_]

I went to Citizencon last year and had a phenomenal time. This years will be without a doubt the best Citcon ever. If I could choose to go back in time to tell myself to save the money and instead go to this years, I would. I think there will be some announcements that make the community go full scale bananas

[@VFW-Mayer]

100 Systems, 1 Million Players, 10,000 Per System. 10 Starting Zones, 1 Million Players, 100,000 Per Starting Zone. Good Luck after having AI + Players all colliding and bumping around. FIrst, CIG must Shard out the starting zones via Geographic Locations. Players with 100ms ping to the closest server and limited bandwidth for downloading thousands of players movements will be an issue. Example - Player to Server USEast 80ms. Server USEast to USWest 30ms. USWest to Player 50ms. 160ms Player to Player Rubberbanding. This is the issue when you start adding Thousands of Players inside 1 area broadcast of positional info. Second, 1000 Players Per Server with ONLY 1 Million Players, 1,000 Servers Sharing Information. How Much will CIG spend on this per month? Amazon Web Servers are not free. This is why I think a Subscription will be required.

[@1inchPunchBowl]

Maybe apply for a job as you seem to know exactly what their plan is & all the issues they will have to overcome. 🙄

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

It'll be expensive. A big GOOD LUCK to them lol

[@jbirdmax]

Yea that’s not how this is being planned is it? If we had 500 players per shard, we would be about 10 to one player to NPC ratio if CIG triples or quadruples NPC count. Which is probably worse than 4X players if I’m to be honest. But CIG will undoubtedly be developing shard meshing for the final trick.

[@jbirdmax]

By the way, you can have about 16 shards running on one physical server. A server rack with say 20 units (the ones where I work hold 22 units about the size of a small laptop) cost us about $250.00 per month lease. I’m not gonna do the math, but that’s gonna add up fast.

[@VFW-Mayer]

@@jbirdmax It also depends on the number of process threads and ram used. I think that Star Citizen will use a lot of ram and process threads per client connection. And stream a lot of cross server information to that client from other players on other servers.

[@CitizenScott]

Is it just me, or does Sulyce kinda rule?

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

I'd love to create any other woman than my grandma :D

[@Platinumsniper]

I think CIG should flip the bird to all legacy game critics like IGNorance.

[@woodybear3823]

For what lol, still not delivering the things that they promised to?

[@ESC_907]

Does anyone here have Phoon? I used to. But it hopped away…

[@fffx2]

When's the luke stevens collab

[@angelarch5352]

I don't wanna be foon sped! :D

[@Valium_x]

Looking forward to hearing the big picture at Citcon. However we all know by now you have to just nod politely when they start talking in fine detail BS.

[@angelarch5352]

56:30 btw I 100% DISAGREE with your guest, there should NEVER be forced RP in this game anywhere... ever. And NEVER EVER EVER skill trees! THAT is f-kin insane hard NO!!!! thanks.

[@BTV_Cast]

I actually agree about skill trees and it not being in the game as they normally are. I do believe SC can lean into primary / secondary functions, and reward players from investing their time and energy into certain game loops, but most definitely NOT the typical attribute point system, for sure.

[@besgarknightshade3241]

Does Cig really need SC to be in a good place before sq42 releases? It’s in Alpha without data running and other stuff. You don’t judge other companies game releases based on their alpha game in development. If sq42 has to wait for SC then it will never be a good time. I had great fun in 3.17. Not so in 3.18. Sq42’s polish has to carry sq42.

[@CriminalMindsQuotes]

cmon now, star citizen is not cooking the game is absolutely unplayable right now. I had big hopes for 2024 they got a lot of new funding but somehow its becoming less and less of a video game

[@woodybear3823]

It's a joke honestly, i played the PTU just recently and it sucks absolute ass. It's not even funny anymore. They "cooking" exactly nothing, it's always unbelivable how this community can just straight up be happy about half assed development. At this point i am just gonna wait for Squadron 42 and hope it's somewhat good, since all the funding and work seems to got there either way.

[@brandonswitzer3907]

Yea it should be a name above your ORG Person every one else doesn't have it like you give that person your bio link

[@charlyblues6505]

Hey bro, we need a resume, no the entire video 😊

[@DaringDan]

Let me get this straight: CIG is in crunch for CitizenCon and the weekend before said CitizenCon, 4.0 goes to Evo? Seems like it's all so Chris can stand on that stage and proudly proclaim that 4.0(which we've been told is coming soon since 2017 or so)is playable and people will clap. It was 5 years ago in December of 2019 when Chris stood on a CitizenCon stage and said we were getting Pyro. Dude is shameless.

[@NicholasRyan0723]

Everybody in the comments is a "developer" 😆

[@fwdcnorac8574]

You all still think they are only going to do one system a year? And still hit 100 star systems? I'm sorry, but your math ain't mathing.

[@jamesschmames6416]

Delusions

[@tkc1129]

F skills! You can "lean into medical" by getting good. If you want to "lean into" something, how pathetic is it if you need the game to give you an artificial advantage? And if the gameplay isn't deep enough for player skill to matter, the game is poorly designed. Do you seriously think I want to run scrimmages with cargo boxes for hours on end to get slightly better at using heavy armor... until the next time I die? How is that fun?

[@Bahkana]

The massive collection of t0 tech demos masquerading as a game, adds another t0 tech demo. Shocking.

[@Turican76]

NOTHING runs butter smooth...the engine is trash - only using 1 core

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

Yup, it doesn't run well right now.

[@JuanBrolo]

People need to stop and actually be honest with themselves....this engine is never going to run butter smooth. Plain and simple. We are still dealing with basic gameplay issues 10+ years into development ...there's a reason literally almost no other companies use this garbage game engine....it's great for single player controller environments..not for online giant player found games. And now that I said that it's really not even great for single player games... To this day far cry and the crisis games have performance issues. And whatever you want to say about it being amazons engine....it's still based on cry engine.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

?? It uses all my 8 cores wtf you talking about

[@jbirdmax]

@@JuanBrolo Yeah. Oh my goodness your comment is loaded. Firstly, the Star Engine isn’t being used by any other company because CIG hasn’t leased it to anyone yet. You know, because they are still developing it? And please. Before you say Crytek or lumberyard engine, know that Lumberyard engine was a placeholder while CIG replaced all that legacy code. There are dozens of posts on the RSI website by developers explaining this. And it’s mentioned in some past KZbin videos from CIG. Secondly, Star Citizen isn’t the game CIG cares about right now. It’s not and has NEVER been their primary focus of development. Squadron 42 and in case you missed the last 300 videos from CIG, the Star Engine have been their primary focus of development. Period. There are usually about 30 people or less actually working on Star Citizen. Has the project as a whole been delayed? Mismanaged? Miscommunicated? Misrepresented by KZbin content creators? All yes. And CIG has since, changed and moved forward. And will continue to. So too shall we.

[@JuanBrolo]

@@jbirdmax I'm going to go ahead and assume you know nothing of what you speak about... Or you are just white knighting right now... "StarEngine" is a modded version of lumberyard which is a modded version of CRYENGINE. This is a known fact. Just because they slapped a new name on their version doesn't change that. Read the games insider article and you will see I am right in every way. And I said it all before the article came out. The engine is out dated regardless of what they change or make to force things to work. Calling lumberyard a placeholder for their StarEngine just means their modded version is called star engine and there are several games that have tried to use lumberyard and while are playable they are plagued with network issues and bugs. I am not discounting the work cig has done in any way I believe they have some of the most talented developers in the industry. But like 343 before their recent announcement of switching to unreal. They are being forced to make things work and it's a uphill battle at all times. They need to decide if they are going to be a tools and tech development company...or a game company and the length of development shows they are trying to do both and it's going to bite them in the butt in the long run.

[@Biggerfoot]

This game is dying and I’m loving every second of it xD all these the boat could never sink type vibes are funny as hell

[@Brigadier_Beau]

Dying? LOL. SC is on track to bringing in close to if not more funding this year than last year. Last year was the highest funded year ever. That does not sound like dying to me at all.

[@Biggerfoot]

@@Brigadier_Beau that is false the economy was way better last year people don’t have the money to donate as much

[@saltybulldog3241]

@@Biggerfoot And yet the funding is super high...wtf are you on about?

[@Biggerfoot]

@@saltybulldog3241 funding is not super high at all xD or they wouldn’t be scraping together to make money on such small purchases, as well they control and manufacture there own numbers and it’s not public , secondary market sells of ships are at a all time low as well

[@Brigadier_Beau]

@@Biggerfoot At the end of September last year, the total pledge amount for 2023 was $66,052,648. At the end of September this year, the total pledge amount for 2024 was $68,445,686. Over $2,000,000 more in pledges so far this year.