SpaceX Begin Starship v2 Tests, New Superheavy Static Fires...but will Booster 12 be Scrapped?

It's been another busy week of spaceflight news! SpaceX maintain their Warp 9 pace at Starbase, with the rollout of the first Version 2 Starship, and a static fire test of the Flight 6 Superheavy already! SpaceX launched 45 Starlink Satellites across 2 launches one of which was the 100th Falcon launch of 2024, as well as 21 Starshield satellites. China conducted 2 Long March launches and prepares to fly Shenzhou 19, Blue Origin premiered both a brand new Booster and brand new crew capsule on their NS-27 mission, SpaceX Crew 8 returned to Earth after the longest Crew Dragon mission ever! There were more troubles for Boeing after a satellite they built broke up in space, and their losses on the Starliner program increased by over 250 million dollars. All of this and so much more!
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[@MattLowne]

04:20 ARGHH I obviously meant to say "version 1 booster" not "version 2" my bad 😭😭

[@zopEnglandzip]

Not good enough. Cheers.

[@Starshipupdatesn30]

😊

[@kosmicdakerbal]

haha funny weed number

[@ZSpace3000]

3 Replys?? Come on. He's literally the goat for ksp vids.

[@dctranberg1]

There are thousands of elements in each test. Even though it looks like the "same" test.

[@MattLowne]

Yes, part of the reason why I'm so interested in why the test needed doing again with Booster 13

[@akqle4438]

@@MattLowne I'm assuming it was probably to test the internal structural strength of the tower and chopsticks that couldn't easily be tested externally. But I'm not a materials scientist nor structural engineer so don't quote me on that.

[@Mira-bt3zx]

@@MattLowne I wonder if there was some information gained about the booster, not just the chopsticks. Not sure what that would be though

[@jibbmng]

@@MattLowne just my own speculation, but to me it looks like a calibration step for catch preparation - the booster and tower will be subtly different from the last launch, and so they're just double checking where the booster comes to rest relative to the tower so they know where to aim at for landing.

[@PhotoArtBrussels]

So ... for the SLS they announce "the cleaning of a tank" .... meanwhile in Bocachica they are wheeling components over the beach without even a plastic sheet in sight! lol

[@BobaPhettamine]

Saved definitely, it's one of the biggest parts of rocket history it would be a crime to scrap it.

[@brennan-p6j]

1:56 please tell spacex that they need a rocket garden and the perfect way to start is by using the recovered super heavy booster

[@drew8443]

Can't wait for the first Starship trans lunar injection

[@Syntex366]

That’s probably still years off since they’re still working on building bigger stack variants with better engines. The first operational use for Starship will be LEO payloads like anything else, they might be able to open up easy access to HEO deployment, but there’s not really a commercial need for that outside of the few scientific research interests that might come along.

[@akqle4438]

(in 2040)

[@AzureImperium7701X]

@@Syntex366they have a contract from nasa as a lunar lander.

[@alexb-mc4jo]

They'll have to drag on the prograde vector for quite a while on the maneuver node (No one made a ksp reference, so I did)

[@Syntex366]

@@AzureImperium7701X I know that. That doesn’t really change anything. Starships not gonna be lunar insertion ready for a while. As much as I love the program and think it’s a historic milestone it’s still in testing, they haven’t even started working on orbital insertion because they’re still dealing with re-entry issues on Starships fins and Superheavy still has its own kinks to work out even if the landing is mastered, it suffered some serious damage during flight.

[@ElectronTC]

It's crazy how much respect I used to have for Boeing that has now been absolutely decimated in recent years

[@givemeanaccountdamit]

I appreciate the extra effort it took to make this video length exactly 1337… very 90s cool

[@Dejvmurej]

Elon would like it to be 14.88

[@themodelrailwayman5470]

my grandfather passed away on the 20th - he was the one that got me into aerospace in general, leading to the job I have today, and my love of space- and aircraft. as I was driving home from my parents' after hearing the news of his passing, I saw what Im pretty sure was the Starlink Satellite train (it was very linear, and moving faster than the other stars, but i didnt have chance to check any trackers as I was driving). while im not personally someone who believes the stars/celestial objects are our dead relatives looking down on us, it did at least feel appropriate, like a last sendoff to my grandad

[@peppapig9987]

May he rest in peace.

[@uddek]

May he Rest In Peace

[@themodelrailwayman5470]

@@peppapig9987 thank you

[@themodelrailwayman5470]

@@uddek thank you

[@beagledadtrucker]

That old lady helping the astronauts stand 😂 she got folded in half trying to support that guy

[@visyxl]

4:20 HAHA FUNNEH NUMBER MISTAKE

[@RyanKingArt]

thanks!

[@GilWanderley]

12:17 By the way, the CCTV Video News Agency KZbin channel uploaded a showcase of the space station by the Shenzhou-18 crew last week, if you have curiosity on how the Tiangong Station is inside

[@Megacat8199]

Literally the best space news series ever I LOVE YOU MATT AAHHRGGRGRRR

[@Allthegoodhandlesaretakenlmao]

I think they’re gonna basically do a taxidermy on it. Remove all the valves and pipes and such then put just the tank and engines on display

[@AviationMattt]

I love these please keep them up

[@TeddytheScienceDude365]

Love your vids🥰

[@matthewsantoro4441]

Honestly the only thing I can really think of for why they would raise the booster like that would be some sort of sensor calibration, maybe gps calibration, especially the booster relative to the tower

[@mysterymayhem7020]

I don't think we will ever see an operational starliner. I think Boeing will end up cancelling the program.

[@ziyad_aljassasi]

I don't know about B12's fate , but I would prefer for them to preserve it.

[@dodleboper]

you should have metioned how Elon said the chine damage was nearly fatal to the booster and engine problems were one second away from the booster aborting the catch

[@Ihavenooriginalideas]

I am gonna be completely honest: Flight 5 felt routine. Just the reentry of Ship 30 was like, "Yes, yes, anyways," but maybe that's just because of the catch. But now that B13 has already static fired, it REALLY feels routine.

[@MarkoDash]

at this point the biggest slowdowns with the whole project are the bureaucracy and associated backdoor political hurdles.

[@hadorstapa]

It surely deserves to be preserved, but I suspect it will be scrapped.

[@Asterra2]

IFT6 was meant to retry whatever went wrong with IFT5. I doubt anyone really expected basically everything to work. Yeah, about the only thing they can really do is tweak the flaps again to try to get closer to solving the reentry melting, but I personally don't expect them to bother changing anything there. So maybe it's now all about repeating the success solely for the sake of repeating it. It's not like it would be a better idea to scrap the entire stack at this point.

[@JcBoi]

you should review the Halloween and Jack'o'lantern KSP mods for halloween, I'd be interested in what you make

[@Papershields001]

I think they should roll booster 12 out by the entrance of starbase and just have it there on display. When the first ship makes it back they should go stack it and keep that on static display.

[@davidalldred9392]

Lifting th empty booster could just be part of an equipment cycling program to keep and th cables and pulleys on stage zero lubricated. Having so many moving parts that close to the ocean is a maintenance nightmare all on its own tbf.

[@GreenJimll]

"Will it be scrapped or will it be saved?" Or will it be used for further tests?

[@SleepyGamerPR]

I feel like SpaceX will fist static fire B12 again and then maybe either scrap it or put it on display at the Starbase entrance

[@PendergastOrbitals657]

Love it matt. Also I am making a mission in KSP specialy created for you. Want to play it in a video.

[@Blurgert]

Day 71 of asking you to play REAL SOLAR SYSTEM the KERBAL SPACE PROMGRAM 1 Mod

[@war_fish]

i have a feeling they will keep the booster and ship from their first full flight profile (Booster + Ship catch)

[@Pandariptor]

Day 2 of asking Matt to try out Juno new origins

[@snakevera]

Maybe they are trying to compare the difference in chop stick flex or perhaps recalibrate sensors and compare old calibration data 🤷‍♂

[@awilliams1701]

I'll be surprised if starliner flies again honestly.

[@uddek]

Spending another dollar on Starliner is a joke. We don't need another capsule.

[@awilliams1701]

@@uddek I don't agree with that, but there is no reason to waste money on boeing.

[@FlyingBaco]

I have an idea for ksp. Try to do a cargo drop to your bases on planets like laythe

[@garyfoot2811]

The ship needs to know where it is going to catch the Booster. With ourtomanus landing

[@Vodhin]

195 (give or take) Raptor engines have flown so far.

[@baileydeyoung8049]

I’m thinking that test is a just see if something breaks when we do this test.😂

[@TeddytheScienceDude365]

Hi

[@dougbrinklow9979]

If Elon's philosophy is, "The best part is no part", do you think he's considered eliminating the forward flaps? Why wouldn't smaller fixed fins do the trick? If the rear flaps are tucked in, it would nose-up. If extended, then nose down. In the middle, stable belly-flop. It could still turn and glide and do what it needs to do. The only thing that might be missing is yaw, but that is probably not needed at that entry height.

[@ekowstevens4054]

Yes all very good and everything but how does Space X's progress impact the delivery date of the next planet coaster video? It's these sort of important questions that a real hard hitting generalist would answer.

[@HistoryOnPaper]

Honestly I kind of feel sad for Boeing. You’re in debt to now the worlds richest hit man, you’re crew capsule almost stranded two of NASAs astronauts on the ISS and all to be beaten by some man who’s obsessed with the letter X and is pretending that his pickup truck was a success.

[@lordgarion514]

That pickup truck is the third best selling EV in the country.

[@Ben21756]

As the person above me has mentioned three times for some reason, the CyberTruck is one of the best-selling vehicles in the US. It’s definitely a successful product, you need to give credit where it’s due.

[@HistoryOnPaper]

@@Ben21756 you failed to mention it has been recalled several times.

[@Ben21756]

@@HistoryOnPaper By that logic, the Toyota Corolla and RAV4 would also be considered failures, wouldn’t they? Because, for the past couple of years, over a million units of these vehicles have potentially been affected by Toyota recalls.

[@lordgarion514]

@@Ben21756 That's an occasional YT thing. Thanks, I fixed it.

[@camdentherocker3230]

I'm here in first 9 minutes of this video posting

[@brianhillier7052]

TOWER LIFTING BOOSTER >> My guess Software calibration/ and or different parameter testing/ were by they did not need the booster filled.

[@MatchGuy]

Wait that how they reuse the hot staging ring!?

[@jacobthibodeau6685]

they should display the booster as a museum piece... would be a real shame if they reused it and it was to explode.

[@cameronarcher1410]

The catch simulation was most likely for calculating the booster to the tower height differences or they want to change how the booster lands in this launch could be some things there not happy with in launch 1

[@Starshipupdatesn30]

Nice❤

[@mohammedalnayar]

Nooo, should have included the interview between Destin and Matt and Don :/

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

So the idea that SpaceX could 'turn around' their booster and use it again is proven not to be the case. Sad.

[@jxpat]

Did he say 'Starliner' and 'in service ' in the same sentence? It'll never happen!

[@439sparky1]

Boeing should just make toasters. They can’t possibly **** that up.

[@MarkoDash]

it will cost 500 bucks and the bread will come out colder than it went in.

[@charliewastaken]

Hey Matt, I noticed that the crew dragon landing footage had only 3 chutes. Was this another failure, old clip, or just a norm now?

[@alfredtg]

Honestly… Boeing should just close their doors

[@dougbrinklow9979]

Is it possible that the Booster is lifted into the catch position so that SpaceX can run some software captures/diagnostics that grab the GPS locations of booster sensors so that it knows exactly where it needs to be at catch time? It is a prototype, after all.

[@Hexemon]

Anyone see the bird falling out of the sky at 3:19? This must happen .. right?

[@r-0-ck-3-t98]

they probably just raise the boosters for photo opps

[@JohnR31415]

Are they calibrating GPS for return?

[@peterrobins3548]

can't see why it can't be used for a possible expendable development mission atleast unless there was a structural issues found post flight. Unlikely me thinks, 1st gen boosters seem structurally over engineered to me but I'm just a peasant.

[@JackReid-w2u]

Why did the FAA ban building more atlas Vs

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

4:40 never say no to real world data

[@mattplaygamez]

You forgot to mention that for flight 5 the booster was 1 second away of crashing next to to the tower something with starstup time if engines

[@Allthegoodhandlesaretakenlmao]

I think the quote said that it was a precautionary measure and that it would ditch into the dunes to prevent damage to the OLM in case of a failure

[@DragonFruitYTUK]

Boeing is good when it comes to flying in the air… not so much flying in a vacuum

[@jantjarks7946]

... errhh 👀

[@lordgarion514]

So you missed the news about Boeing pleading guilty to two felonies that resulted in a lot of people dying from two plane crashes. And you must have missed the news about the door plug popping out because someone forgot to put bolts in it. And that ain't even all the negative news when it comes to Boeing flying in the air.

[@illustriouschin]

That com sat just happens to operate in all the regions where China is putting a lot of resources into.

[@famlrnamemssng]

Congress banned building Atlas V's? Why?

[@notarobot7620]

Because they use the RD-180, a Russian engine. After they invaded Crimea back in 2014 the US govt got a bit nervous about having a rocket dependent on Russian tech. This is basically why Vulcan exists - the Delta 4 was horrifically expensive and Atlas V fell victim to politics.

[@famlrnamemssng]

@@notarobot7620 bruh

[@philipp-on4gp]

Can someone tell me where space x shares these insane fottage? Ich cant find them anywhere

[@chrissugg968]

When talking about NASA's cost to the taxpayer, it's worth noting that the American Military spends more each year on just _air conditioning_ than NASA's entire budget.

[@awilliams1701]

uggg SLS is another rocket that shouldn't exist.

[@notarobot7620]

Ehh, debatable. It's a solid design by normal standards, but it just gets compared to Starship a lot, which isn't really fair. One is designed from the ground up to be a massive, cheap LEO hauler, the other is optimized for moon missions. And it is pretty necessary for the Artemis program, since Orion is the only thing in the world right now with a heat shield capable of lunar returns. Starship could maybe? do it in the future, but it would need a massive heat shield uprating that might not be possible with ceramic tiles. That being said though, it would probably be possible to design an Artemis architecture where Orion gets launched to LEO, docks with HLS, and then uses HLS to transfer to the moon. Problem is, Orion with the ESM weighs something like 30 metric tons. We don't actually have a launch vehicle that could heft that into orbit, short of SLS. Vulcan might be able to do it at a pinch, but it's not crew rated and probably never will be. Falcon heavy doesn't (as far as I know) have the structural strength to carry a payload that massive, and also isn't crew rated. So yeah, unless you want to design an entirely new crew capsule capable of lunar re-entry, SLS is what we've got.

[@awilliams1701]

@@notarobot7620 if SLS was cheap it would make sense, but it's not. It's 4 billion per launch. It's not going to get any cheaper. Just from money alone I don't think we need it. There is no reason why starship and or new glenn couldnt' do everything needed.

[@notarobot7620]

@@awilliams1701 Looking at Starship, I don't see how you stick a capsule on it without completely changing the design. Maybe slice the fairing off the top and mount an Orion... but at that point the redesign would be as expensive as flying a few SLS. New Glenn is... well it doesn't even exist yet, and Blue Origin are not exactly famous for doing things fast. By the time you've developed, tested, and crew-rated New Glenn, Artemis would have been delayed several years. I would not bank the entire Artemis program on the company responsible for the "where are my engines, Jeff" meme. Yeah, SLS is horribly expensive, but at the moment we don't have an alternative. Also, bear in mind that it's been in development for a while, and that when it was initially conceived Starship was still a few CGI renders. In the long run, I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX either try beefing up Dragon's heatshield to do lunar reentries or maybe some shenanigans with Starship, if they have the mass budget for it. But I'm far from an expert, so take all this with a pinch of salt.

[@jantjarks7946]

The Senate Laundry System does exactly what it has been designed to do. 😉

[@notarobot7620]

@@awilliams1701 I don't see how you mount a capsule on Starship without changing the entire design, and it still has the problem of being unable to handle reentry. New Glenn is... well it doesn't even exist yet, and I wouldn't bank the Artemis program on a company with Blue Origin's timelines. "Where are my engines Jeff" is a meme for a reason. Though, looking into it, it seems like Dragon was initially designed to be capable of lunar re-entries with some modifications, so there might be a world where you launch a crew dragon on a falcon 9, dock it to HLS, have that perform TLI, and then use the dragon as a re-entry capsule. You might be able to cram Dragon's theoretical 7 crew in as well, because you could use HLS for living space. Dragon would probably need to undock and stay in lunar orbit while you land, but that isn't a massive problem. Ultimately though, SpaceX is just not very interested in the moon, for some reason. They're making HLS because they already had Starship in the works anyway, but they seem to be primarily focused on Mars.

[@FinleyHarman-i2m]

Here in 40 seconds

[@FinleyHarman-i2m]

I also think that they will save it

[@light1haven]

Boeing is proof that allowing Mega corporations and monopoly allow massive company failure

[@R-BGamingUK]

RAKETE

[@terracub]

Will they fooled you because they're just going to use accounting tricks to get them the money

[@CorneliusRex]

Damn, got here 1st, dope as fuck

[@siphotheguy1870]

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[@HarryKaemerle]

1:56 to ensure Booster 12 avoids the same fate as SN15, I'll message SpaceX suggesting moving B12 to a museum (likely Space Center Houston)

[@yahwey12001]

scrap

[@JustFamilyPlaytime]

A brief reminder - according to Elon's original timeline Starship should have demonstrated an uncrewed lunar landing in Q1 of 2024. Not be struggling to make LEO.

[@jantjarks7946]

Elon time. Nothing new with that.

[@lordgarion514]

Yeah, he's a bit optimistic, he's also doing things 10 times faster than everyone else. And he's doing 10 times more than everyone else.... Combined

[@b0bTheGreat-real]

29 seconds and only 2 views? You’ve fallen off

[@BobaPhettamine]

takes youtube minutes to update views properly that many people click on at the same time lol

[@TheGhungFu]

Kidd of sucks. No longer a SpaceX fan. Elon went over to the dark side and screwed that up.. He should have stuck to rockets and stayed TF out of my life. C-ya! P.S. Unsubscribing from all SpaceX related channels.

[@callmethreeone]

Why be that upset, spacex still has done nothing that hasn't been done before.

[@markcaserta1367]

SpaceX is run by Gwen Shotwell. It is a company whose employees have many views. Elon Musk is the CEO. It is not a political based company.

[@Kerbal_r6]

Firsties

[@Blurgert]

Day 70 of asking you to play REAL SOLAR SYSTEM the KERBAL SPACE PROMGRAM 1 Mod