SpaceX's Starlink Reviewed: How is it after 4 months?

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Jeff Geerling

Jeff Geerling

Күн бұрын

I installed Dishy four months ago. Does it really get 300 Mbps down? Yes, sometimes. But what about the long term averages? How much power does it use? How is latency and jitter?
All that and more in this comprehensive review of Starlink after four months installed at my house in St. Louis, MO, in the USA.
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Previous Starlink setup videos:
- Starlink on my Cousin's Farm: • I took SpaceX's Starli...
- Installing Starlink Dishy on my roof: • SpaceX Starlink satell...
#Starlink #SpaceX
Contents:
00:00 - Starlink Overview
01:33 - Caveats
02:15 - Dishy
06:45 - Starlink Router
09:08 - Power Consumption
11:20 - Performance - subjective
13:07 - Performance - objective
15:27 - Pricing and Contract
16:20 - Drawbacks
17:02 - Verdict

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@izzieb
@izzieb 3 жыл бұрын
There's a Starlink, waiting in the sky, it'd like to provide you with internet, but there's trees blocking the line of sight. 🎶
@SchoolforHackers
@SchoolforHackers 3 жыл бұрын
I miss David.
@goodlookinouthomie1757
@goodlookinouthomie1757 3 жыл бұрын
Let the children boogie.
@dronenuts1156
@dronenuts1156 2 жыл бұрын
Or perhaps “let the children Google”
@nekomakhea9440
@nekomakhea9440 3 жыл бұрын
"Starlink shuts down when outside temps reach 50C" When can we expect the Linus Tech Tips "I water cooled my Internet, and then this happened" video?
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 3 жыл бұрын
He'd probably use liquid nitrogen!
@Subgamer-lu4xv
@Subgamer-lu4xv 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling only when overclocking
@jonasstahl9826
@jonasstahl9826 3 жыл бұрын
Just run a raspberry pi that control a valve for a sprinkler.
@88s10Durango
@88s10Durango 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling Ah Linus doesen`t like liquid Nitrogen ,, Steve @ Gamers has that covered lol :)
@mindustrial
@mindustrial 3 жыл бұрын
Really useful when this tech is designed for use in Africa.
@JesseFleming1990
@JesseFleming1990 3 жыл бұрын
You really put a lot of work and research into this, even monitoring the jitter and setting up separate networks through your raspberry pis to run parallel comparisons. Color me impressed, better than most of KZbin reviewers.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, most reviews on KZbin have a very limited allotment of time for the review-e.g. one week or maybe in some cases up to a month... I try on this channel to pour a lot more resources into a more narrow set of reviews of things I'm actually interested in, because I think that (a) helps me understand the things I review better, and (b) would be a lot more helpful to people actually interested in putting money into the thing I review!
@JesseFleming1990
@JesseFleming1990 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling Well you got a sub from me.
@pokwerpokwerpokwer
@pokwerpokwerpokwer 3 жыл бұрын
4:17 Another reviewer's experience: Snow melted and ran off, but then re-froze, forming a column of ice between the dish and the roof, causing the self-orientation mechanism to fail. Dish was sent back to SpaceX.
@learnnorth6192
@learnnorth6192 3 жыл бұрын
You need to have 3 foot clearance so icicles to not make contact with roof, otherwise you ruin dish motor since dish is always manually adjusting tilt as needed. Situation like that, use a longer mount or j-bar.
@mgabrysSF
@mgabrysSF 2 жыл бұрын
@@learnnorth6192 I'll be curious how much adjusting happens as more sats are added to the mesh. Supposedly (fact check me) Starlink was going to evolve into a flat table 'dish' to track all of the birds available dynamically without mechanical orientation.
@slamshift6927
@slamshift6927 2 жыл бұрын
So... during winter consider moving dish to a spot you can readily access to clear snow. Copy.
@tvnostalgia7477
@tvnostalgia7477 2 жыл бұрын
Whoops. Why not mount it on a wall rather than the roof? The water could have dropped off. 🤪
@rebeccachambers4701
@rebeccachambers4701 2 жыл бұрын
Hey that's the future of technology baby it not working at all get used to it and by the way also you don't own it so we're charging you for damages to our s***** product because it was shittily designed
@avinashranjan9197
@avinashranjan9197 3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel because you always do reviwes after a ton of testing.. Awesome content bro..
@TheTechieScientist
@TheTechieScientist 3 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to a Jeff Geerling video popping up on my notifications
@traeparker7335
@traeparker7335 2 жыл бұрын
The best Starlink Review available! I appreciate your clear, concise, data driven tutorial.
@farzamkhonamri
@farzamkhonamri 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Really enjoyed everything on this video: the footage, the review, everything was perfect. Kudos
@gus473
@gus473 3 жыл бұрын
🥇By far the best, most in-depth review of Starlink, bar none! (Plus the usual fun and great production quality!) Thanks, Jeff! 👍🏼😎✌🏼
@gus473
@gus473 3 жыл бұрын
Follow up: Almost 24 hours after I watched and commented, we were notified that our Dishy is being shipped! 👍🏼😎 Omen or what? 😉🤣✌🏼
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 3 жыл бұрын
OK SpaceX, you've won me over with those ASCII easter eggs
@armyofninjas9055
@armyofninjas9055 3 жыл бұрын
But they lost me with worker exploitation. Satellite internet has been a thing for a long time. This is nothing new and is trash compared to fiber.
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 3 жыл бұрын
Jokes aside, I'm not one to pick sides in a market. In light of ISP monopolies, this should help things to move forward in the states. Some areas don't get better service than 3mbit, it's a no-brainer for most people.
@HiThisIsMine
@HiThisIsMine 3 жыл бұрын
@@armyofninjas9055 - do a bit of research, all previous satellite services were/are horse shit compared to even dial up… Starlink satellites are in low orbit and beam directly to users rooftop dishes whereas every other satellite service is further away, has less satellites and as a result utilize land repeaters to beam to users rooftop satellites with spotty connections and at painstakingly slow speeds… at a cost to the user on average of about $400/mo compared to Starlinks $100/mo for speeds exceeding that of most peoples cable Internet. Also, Starlink is not intended to replace physical cable service like fiber which will obviously have faster transmission speeds over wireless (for now). You can’t ding the service for a comparison that you arbitrarily made on your own. Starlink has always been marketed as a solution for rural areas which do not already have internet service.
@ArildM
@ArildM 2 жыл бұрын
well-conducted testing of the equipment and well documented iwth graphs etc. Great job with video editing and good sound throughout the video. Good job :) Enjoyed your review.
@johnsavard6269
@johnsavard6269 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thank you for the work you put into the video!
@AlanTwoRings
@AlanTwoRings 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video on how you're aggregating your two connections when you get down to it!
@MartinPHellwig
@MartinPHellwig 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff, TLDW will never apply to you.
@mrlescure
@mrlescure 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't help that his TLDW didn't answer the question.
@danielpiper1675
@danielpiper1675 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrlescure It did answer the question. The dish was just as good as his wired internet most of the time, except for a couple of minutes every few hours when it would get obstructed.
@fubutthole
@fubutthole 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not subscribing to this guy.
@fanficdeath9072
@fanficdeath9072 3 жыл бұрын
@@fubutthole omg... no one cares.
@wiredwebmaster
@wiredwebmaster 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin randomly suggested your channel, fantastic content. Keep up the great work! BTW, thanks for posting timestamps (and outtakes too!)
@larrydykes7643
@larrydykes7643 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is a great review - really practical, and understandable (despite nice use of technology to collect and illustrate the findings) -- Thanks for doing this! Subscribed.
@impossiblescissors
@impossiblescissors 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, the kind of intelligent product review that makes KZbin worthwhile!
@AaezI
@AaezI 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to see that Red Shirt Jeff watches Photonicinduction!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 3 жыл бұрын
"Research" he tells me.
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling its better then research, its SCHIENCE!
@GenBumbleBee
@GenBumbleBee 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling 300MPs down. lols in 1GB up and down
@tacomonkey222
@tacomonkey222 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling enjoy starlink while it lasts the math on the buissness side does not add up
@Bageltin
@Bageltin 3 жыл бұрын
hell yeah
@BigTrainBuff
@BigTrainBuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an honest and thorough review. One of the best on KZbin.
@danoc51
@danoc51 2 жыл бұрын
What a well done video! This is not just an excellent production but is very well written, also. Thanks!
@enb3810
@enb3810 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, jeff. I know this isn't relating to the video so much, but holy COW! look at the quality of your videos! Love it.
@saraban5rivers
@saraban5rivers 3 жыл бұрын
nice detailed tech review, with a bit of humor.
@johnsonlam
@johnsonlam 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, compare to some others "pure personal opinion", Jeff with a bunch of numbers to back his words.
@codydowling1120
@codydowling1120 2 жыл бұрын
This video got you another subscriber. Thanks for being so thorough- very well done!
@catares2000
@catares2000 3 жыл бұрын
We’ve had ours for about 3 months now and we love it! Rural Oklahoma and there is no good internet option. I’ve been using a cell service for the last few years, which was expensive and there are always data limits. We still talk once in a while about how awesome it is to be able to watch whatever we want, anytime, instead of being “almost out of data” ALL THE TIME. As mentioned, it really is life changing for some of us! Worth every penny of the upfront costs.
@craigelliott4446
@craigelliott4446 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in choktaw county , I got bumped back to mid next year! I'm happy for you!!
@gtxoiltastebad
@gtxoiltastebad 2 жыл бұрын
STFU life changing . its trash and the future it will go down . The satilites have to be replaced every 5 years .. Its terrible for waste and space junk . Starlink will go broke .
@craigelliott4446
@craigelliott4446 2 жыл бұрын
@@gtxoiltastebad yeah most VLEO satellites do have a 5 year lifespan. That's why they already have backups parked in higher orbit. 2 most VLEOs fail not because of hardware but becuase of orbital decay. why talk shit to someone that hasn't had reliable internet becuase someone finally brought them service. You need to rethink your priorities dude or life isn't gonna be easy on you
@bighands69
@bighands69 2 жыл бұрын
@@gtxoiltastebad You are talking about first generation systems. 5 years of in technology is a long time and 20 years is two human technology generations. Why you think they will go broke now is really a mystery.
@rudney7321
@rudney7321 3 жыл бұрын
i don't even have words to express how amazing this channel is though
@GaryStewart2020
@GaryStewart2020 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and thorough data. Thank you.
@unkowndata2338
@unkowndata2338 3 жыл бұрын
This was a really well made video! Great job!
@Jst29483
@Jst29483 2 жыл бұрын
The most thorough and comprehensive review that I have seen on KZbin about Starlink. From one Jeff to another Jeff, Thank you! J S Thomas
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Jeff!
@WillieKiely
@WillieKiely 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Jeff. Great unbiased review. Got my dishy 4 days ago, in Ireland. Same thoughts... I luv the competition it brings, and a good 2 fingers to the other ISP's.
@MarcusPHagen
@MarcusPHagen 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very complete review.
@EMNM22
@EMNM22 Жыл бұрын
I love the bloopers at the end. You made me smile a little. 😁👍
@jaredwalton3135
@jaredwalton3135 3 жыл бұрын
Nice proper drilling technique at the angle. Thanks for the video, been looking for more Starlink info.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 3 жыл бұрын
You don't want water dripping towards the house!
@negritorican
@negritorican 3 жыл бұрын
You deserve alot more subscribers. Your review is very detailed and well thought out. Great job Jeff!
@IanWootten
@IanWootten 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to do a similar video on how I run our entire house from here in the UK using a 4G LTE SIM for about £8 ($11)/mo. I can get get close to 100Mbps down, which is enough for us. I'll have to start tracking some stats.
@xxcr4ckzzxx840
@xxcr4ckzzxx840 3 жыл бұрын
11 Bucks a Month lol. In Germany that would get you like ~2GB of Data and thats it ^^ If you´re lucky it may also be as fast as 20Mbit/s at least around my region. If you do a Video about that, i encourage you to speak a bit louder, even if it feels totally wrong at first. I´m looking forward to see something about that!
@cdl0
@cdl0 3 жыл бұрын
Please do make the video! Moreover, at UK prices, the cost of electricity for Starlink will be significantly more than the cost of your 4G internet subscription. On internet for rural areas, the phenomenon known as trees, as described in the video, is going to be a common problem. A UK-specific problem will planning permission. In Conservation Areas, and for Listed Properties, it will likely be impossible to get consent from the authorities; dishes for TV reception are already forbidden. You must conceal them carefully if you want one, but these only need to see one point in the sky.
@liquid-arts-games1053
@liquid-arts-games1053 3 жыл бұрын
@UCCFYf0B37zl9YPdF5krj8Pw that's true the overall pricing for 4G are pretty ridiculous in Germany. But there's nothing we could do to change that.
@chriswatson2407
@chriswatson2407 3 жыл бұрын
What SIM deal is this?
@IanWootten
@IanWootten 3 жыл бұрын
@@chriswatson2407 It's just a unlimited data 3 SIM, complete with a bunch of cashback offers.
@andymorris15
@andymorris15 2 жыл бұрын
AT LAST! Actual reporting and data. Thanks for the super useful review and video. I think I'm gonna hold out until there's more coverage (especially for remote working and zoom all day)
@DavidCarns
@DavidCarns 2 жыл бұрын
Came to your channel for the Pi content, stayed when I learned you are one of the best tech KZbinrs hands down. Subscribed and donated!
@bartcalder2791
@bartcalder2791 3 жыл бұрын
To add to this review...Got mine in February, am rural, and was great,...until Spring. Had to go from the ground to a 12'+ mast to clear the trees. Heavy rain was a problem, but has since beeen alot better. Beats the Verizon 4g JetPack that was formerly the connection to the world.
@kell7689
@kell7689 3 жыл бұрын
Immediate 'like' simply for your attention to detail. Thanks for doing this.
@fleipeg
@fleipeg 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a subscriber to your channel, however, your video was the one I chose when doing a search for Starlink. I'm glad I selected it because the content was excellent. It was an informative and honest review of the Starlink service which is what I wanted. Thank you.
@sedace6734
@sedace6734 3 жыл бұрын
exactly the type of review I wanted to see, thanks.
@DanielLopez-up6os
@DanielLopez-up6os 3 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this since you sayd you had Starlink.
@home-lab
@home-lab 3 жыл бұрын
It's special how I keep looking at your reviews even though I'm not really interested in this topic because I happen to live in an area where we have good internet. Why am I watching? educational, good structure. Always the opportunity to dive deeper into the technique through the links. Conclusion: another wonderful review based on facts. Thanks!
@180mph9
@180mph9 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. The quality of your video and audio is perfect. 👌🏼
@felipelopez2526
@felipelopez2526 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea about this product and I probably will never gonna adquire something like this, but this video was so well made and informative that I had to leave a like
@hanovergreen4091
@hanovergreen4091 3 жыл бұрын
You've got a young Steve Buscemi going on. Your cadence and phrasing are almost spot on and you do look a bit like him :). First time viewer. Best Wishes and Regards and thank you. for the great content and information!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 3 жыл бұрын
How do you do, fellow kids!
@CraigMullins1
@CraigMullins1 3 жыл бұрын
175 watts. Holy Toledo!
@ScottPlude
@ScottPlude 3 жыл бұрын
since those number are only hit during the "heat up" cycles, maybe we should just mount it inside, facing out a window and let it heat up our home "for free"
@GrimTimekeeper
@GrimTimekeeper 3 жыл бұрын
A newer revision of dishy reportedly uses less, and there are newer "mobile" models also in the works.
@richardscathouse
@richardscathouse 3 жыл бұрын
Like everything else, Musk does, he is no respect for economy.. But why would he. It's always someone else's money!
@odisy64
@odisy64 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the power consumption of the CPU inside my computer. Impressive it uses this little energy to keep the dish warm.
@odisy64
@odisy64 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardscathouse is that why he spent nearly all his wealth keeping SpaceX and Tesla from going bankrupt?
@stevenjames3631
@stevenjames3631 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review. Thanks for putting forth the effort.
@McQkorean
@McQkorean 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the review! It helped me make a decision. Your video was so thorough, that I'd like to learn more from you! Subscribed.
@RyanStone143
@RyanStone143 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great review, Thanks Jeff!
@llortaton2834
@llortaton2834 3 жыл бұрын
"The saint-louis arch weather deflector went haywire" lol
@sanansa4567
@sanansa4567 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I lived near New York City area, and we could pickup St Louis Radio stations in the car...I always wondered why that was..but now the mystery is solved...it was the St Louis Arch acting as a signal deflector/amplifier..
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 3 жыл бұрын
@@sanansa4567 Ha! Trivia time... I worked at KMOX, which was known as "the mighty MOX", owing to the fact it was a 24-hour AM radio station with a 50 kW transmitter. At night, when the AM signal can bounce off the atmosphere, you could pick it up in most of US (clearly in much of the Midwest). That's also why the St. Louis Cardinals are one of the most popular baseball teams in the Midwest (not all cities had such a powerful AM station that broadcast the games).
@Xz12h
@Xz12h 3 жыл бұрын
first straight forward review I've seen. good job
@VintageInsightPhotography
@VintageInsightPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. One of the best I’ve seen on Starlink. I see a Starlink system in my mobile future.
@shadowtheimpure
@shadowtheimpure 3 жыл бұрын
Starlink: Perfect for those of us who don't want to live in the city anymore.
@shadowtheimpure
@shadowtheimpure 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinhughes4722 Housing prices in rural areas tend to be significantly lower than in urban settings, so I don't understand your point.
@shadowtheimpure
@shadowtheimpure 3 жыл бұрын
@@Igorooooleynikov Because the data caps tend to be low, the prices high, and the service mediocre.
@Igorooooleynikov
@Igorooooleynikov 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowtheimpure hmm, maybe it is US problem?
@PaulSullivan828
@PaulSullivan828 2 жыл бұрын
@@Igorooooleynikov could be.. we have a lot of rural areas that are expensive to cover with good cell coverage
@Igorooooleynikov
@Igorooooleynikov 2 жыл бұрын
@@PaulSullivan828 Not profitable enough to justify 3/4g? Maybe then starlink is one of more obvious plans to make profit, but it does not resolve problem.
@ReverendTed
@ReverendTed 3 жыл бұрын
I've got gigabit fiber, so Starlink wouldn't be for me, but my mom's house is in one of those rural spots were there's either cruddy DSL or the option to pay thousands of dollars to have them run fiber out from the highway - she'd be a perfect candidate. This was a great, detailed breakdown of where the service currently stands, though I feel that your standing obstructions are at once informative but also limiting. How many of the issues you saw would have been mitigated without those obstructions?
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 3 жыл бұрын
It's a good point, and I may never know-however, assuming my cousin's farm opens up to Starlink soon, I'll also be monitoring the connection there (and she has a wide-open view of the entire sky), and I'll report back after a while how that's going.
@MahemYT
@MahemYT 3 жыл бұрын
100%, I'd love this where I am, 10 down and 1 up, but my cousin needs it FAR more than me. He at best gets 150 kbps down and we havent ever been able to measure the upload.. probably cause of how low it is.. gotta love Centurylink. (which we what we both have) Sad thing is, its the best package in his area.
@p.s.6845
@p.s.6845 2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@bighands69
@bighands69 2 жыл бұрын
A wireless connection for your mother to the nearest fiber point would probably be a far more realistic option for high speed internet. At some point that is going to be the approach that gets used for those in urban areas or rural spots that are still within a few miles of more developed communications.
@knarftrakiul3881
@knarftrakiul3881 2 жыл бұрын
Unless ur running High def on demand video server a person only needs 6 megabytes download speed. My wife and I have Netflix and out internet is frontier DSL 18megabytes down 1 Meg up and it works great...no buffering at all. I ran all new wiring and new jack Inside. My bill is about 45 bucks
@ianjuby
@ianjuby 3 жыл бұрын
That was seriously informative - thank you. Looking forward to getting it.
@jamescolton8513
@jamescolton8513 2 жыл бұрын
Very good report and presentation. Thank you Jeff.
@russthomo9602
@russthomo9602 2 жыл бұрын
I've had mine for a few months now in Australia. Absolutely love it, it's been a game changer as I've been running off mobile 4G for years which is very limiting with what I can do at home. I don't have obstructions and have only had two noticeable outages. It'll be interesting to see how it goes in the Australian summer where it can get to 45+ degrees Celsius (113 Fahrenheit, during a really hot summer). Great review, new to your channel but loving the content I've seen so far!
@itchyisvegeta
@itchyisvegeta 3 жыл бұрын
If the ping gets into the 20ms range, I will be very interested in Starlink. I'm hoping to buy a house way out in the middle of nowhere, and internet is a factor on where we eventually move.
@shampooner
@shampooner 3 жыл бұрын
This was a very well done review!
@ethannickson9606
@ethannickson9606 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I'm in semi-rural New Zealand and my dishy is currently on it's way. Having moved 5 years ago from a city with a solid connection, our best offer now is ADSL with constant drop outs. Asked about fibre, and the cost was about 35,000 to get it to our house, which is not happening. Judging on the reddit threads and videos I've been looking at, it's going to be a lifesaver for us and people in our situation. Can finally step back into this century.
@thehuntingscotsman6169
@thehuntingscotsman6169 Жыл бұрын
I think we should all take a moment to really appreciate the amount of time, energy and effort that went into making this video. 👏 Well done and thank you very much for such a brilliant video; it is greatly appreciated. 👍
@_superintendent
@_superintendent 3 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, there is a big difference between mbps and MB/s. Mbps is megaBITS per second, while the other is megaBYTES per second. since a byte has 8 bits, mbps shows 8x larger numbers than MB/s. Keep that in mind :)
@vanceblosser2155
@vanceblosser2155 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an open and honest review. We live in a rural area and have a microwave based wireless internet service which was a big step up from dial up, but could use more speed. The ISP has been great but there are limits to this technology, so something like Starlink is interesting to consider for the future.
@69MrUsername69
@69MrUsername69 3 жыл бұрын
lots of good jokes and commentary with technical analysis, keep it up Jeff!
@CptPatch
@CptPatch 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to seeing what solution you use to aggregate the connections.
@88njtrigg88
@88njtrigg88 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed..
@stephenmcelhinney5001
@stephenmcelhinney5001 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto!
@pokepress
@pokepress 3 жыл бұрын
Are there any plans to allow multiple dishes to be used to effectively expand the field of view? Most folks won’t need it, but I could see it being useful in specific circumstances.
@atheneus
@atheneus 3 жыл бұрын
You don't need that since Dishy is really good at knowing the optimal angle to attain the best possible connection.
@darkfoxfurre
@darkfoxfurre 3 жыл бұрын
It's not something that Starlink has to support directly. You can just use network bonding to combine two or more network connections together to make a single connection with the combined bandwidth.
@bighands69
@bighands69 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkfoxfurre The same thing can be done with a local area wireless system that bridges the last few miles of fibre box to the home.
@Emmettisbreezy
@Emmettisbreezy 3 жыл бұрын
wow what an in depth review, respect!
@jdynes100
@jdynes100 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to you muxing the two services and how you do it. Thanks for the research!
@charliehuang1252
@charliehuang1252 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I really like the “Elon time” joke. That is really epic classic considering the FSD availability schedule on Tesla. That 100W power consumption is really a lot on power burning. 🤔. Good data point.
@Johnny2Feathers
@Johnny2Feathers 3 жыл бұрын
Elon’s also been accurate on many timelines as well .. like model Y production
@AndreaFlorio
@AndreaFlorio 3 жыл бұрын
it's so funny how bad your internet connection is even in big cities... i live in Czech Republic in a small town with less than 8000 people living and my internet connection is a 25 euros a month, fiber to the home with 500 Mbps symmetric down/up... of course no data cap and hidden fees and no termination fees ... go to the big city, and for the same price you get 1 Gbps symmetric ... it's mind blowing how bad things are on the other side of the ocean
@JohnADoe-pg1qk
@JohnADoe-pg1qk 3 жыл бұрын
You don't need to get wet in the ocean. 😉 Just go to Germany. 😑
@edwardallenthree
@edwardallenthree 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have a defense for it, although I have an explanation. America is physically large, which makes running fiber more expensive. Also, we don't bother to regulate our ISPs, and are quick to grant local monopolies to carriers. Finally we are corrupt. Comcast is one of the biggest ISPs and one of the biggest lobbyest.
@curtisturley7
@curtisturley7 3 жыл бұрын
Should see Australia.👎👎👎
@josiahw4217
@josiahw4217 2 жыл бұрын
The internet is the city is just in our cities, this is for people wanting to get out of those shit holes.
@AstroNerdBoy
@AstroNerdBoy 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I've got relatives in rural areas who are on the list to get Starlink. I know they'd love those massive performance boosts.
@gwendolynflanagan8823
@gwendolynflanagan8823 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this very detailed review. It's not too geeky for e to follow and covers my main issues which are rural coverage (and non-coverage!).
@derekloudon8731
@derekloudon8731 3 жыл бұрын
With the dish at that temperature I am surprised that you don't have a bird nesting on it 😁
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 жыл бұрын
I think birds make their nests where they are less out in the open. Plus the nest would probably fall off every time the dish moves itself. I think a nest _under_ the dish would be more probable.
@derekloudon8731
@derekloudon8731 3 жыл бұрын
@@eDoc2020 I think the birds might like a fairground ride😁
@LuisAlonzoRivero
@LuisAlonzoRivero 3 жыл бұрын
I'm hyped about the "internet aggregation" video.
@bigbywhite3535
@bigbywhite3535 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t think I didn’t notice the amazing channel you loaded on your iPad in the beginning. Photonicinduction?! Best chaos and educational channel ever
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
I like this comment.
@paherbst524
@paherbst524 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. And great editing!
@zxcvb_bvcxz
@zxcvb_bvcxz 3 жыл бұрын
So it won't work well here in Eastern Australia - I know my roof goes over 50C in summer, and it was -5C this week (although I don't have good temperature measurement on the roof at the moment)
@krishg602
@krishg602 3 жыл бұрын
Maple tree blocking the internet has got to be the most Canadian thing I've ever heard
@RodThaBod
@RodThaBod Жыл бұрын
Very impressive! You are spot on with your review. I can tell you first hand we were use to around 14 megs of D/L for years. We got Starlink and now we are around 250 megs on a good day and as low as 25 megs on a bad day. One thing I did was buy a pipe 1 and a 1/4 inch pipe and put a 1 and 1/8 inch pipe on the inside for extra support. Went about 4 feet in the ground and 32 feet high. Braced it with a clamp mounted to the gutters. Never have any obstructions and it just survived hurricane Ian with no problem.
@alanjmattingly6941
@alanjmattingly6941 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely a thorough review of Starlink!!!! Thank you so much!!!!!!
@lowstringc
@lowstringc 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's hysterical that you find "below 5mbps!!" internet to be paltry. We have only one provider here in rural PA (no cable, absolutely no fiber, only one DSL provider who doesn't maintain the network well because.....monopoly), and we're 'provisioned' under 3mbps for our 6mbps plan (the lowest we can get, so we pay for 6x the service we are actually provided), and have never received more than 2mbps, we usually hover at 1 or below. There are really no options in the genuinely rural US, and I, for one, am very excited at a possibility opening up.
@bighands69
@bighands69 2 жыл бұрын
That story is the same for rural living all over the world. Your issue is not that it is a monopoly but the fact it is not commercially viable to be able to run new high speed networks into the area without a massive investment in replacing copper transmission with fibre. Where I live the local community got together and paid for a fibre line to brought into the area and we are no on our second fiber line building so as to try and make the system more robust. Another option that will come up in the future is to connect homes to the fibre lines with wireless technologies.
@AlexWerz
@AlexWerz 3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if you know: after the current flood in Germany, they are using Starlink to create a stable internet access in the flooded areas.
@pennykicks
@pennykicks 2 жыл бұрын
Very very well done Jeff, kudos!
@stevecraig3004
@stevecraig3004 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, with solid info!
@CheapHomeTech
@CheapHomeTech 3 жыл бұрын
So much useful information. I did not know about the thermal cut off at 122. That's probably a game ender for everybody living in the desert. It was also interesting to know they have a self heating mechanism to remove snow. Though they have to work on the bug problem. So much power is used on that POE device. And you say the specs for POE say the max is 100W yet they are pushing 150W through it when clearing off snow. Well, with Elon at the helm he probably tested things. As far as losing money I'm sure the monthly rental quickly pays back any immediate loss. He is the richest man in the world because he's like a magician. "Look, I'm giving you the dish at half my price. However, I'm charging you so damn much that within a single year I'll be doubling the profit"! The overall ROI is probably atronomical. And finally, I did not know they were really tied to the geography because they were hardwired to a land connection. I should have realized that until the satellites can talk to each other the satellites would be tied to land locations. This is one of your best if not best episodes yet!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 3 жыл бұрын
Note that they do have truly astronomical (heh) costs outside just Dishy-launching all the satellites costs money, building and developing the satellites and base stations costs money, etc. The idea is that within some period of time (1 million customers? 2 million? not sure the breakeven point), they would start turning a profit, even if the user terminal (Dishy) is still sold at a loss (just a smaller loss, probably, like how Microsoft did with the Xbox).
@av1204
@av1204 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling didnt they get a billion dollar grant for some of it?
@nv7213
@nv7213 3 жыл бұрын
Starlink is faster than my wifI!
@edwardallenthree
@edwardallenthree 3 жыл бұрын
Good point. So many people are using ancient routers.
@richardscathouse
@richardscathouse 3 жыл бұрын
Made in what? 1979?
@adeizayusuf
@adeizayusuf 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant and well detailed review.
@pitbullguy5884
@pitbullguy5884 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting at my ranch 40 miles from any "city." Half of that is dirt roads. We didn't have internet until this summer and now we do because of Starlink. It has been fast and easy to use. We can now use a TV and computers in a frontier area. It doesn't even qualify as rural. You have no idea how what an improvement this is. It's great.
@boumerguy7042
@boumerguy7042 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. It’s very interesting however CGNAT sucks, it makes basically impossible to host anything. And I don’t know what to say about the power consumption that is just crazy…
@nicwilson89
@nicwilson89 3 жыл бұрын
Does Starlink support port control protocol so get around the lack of ability to properly set up port forwarding and therefore allow hosting stuff? It's been a thing for years, I'd be both surprised and disappointed to learn that thry hadn't at least bothered going as far as using a standard developed and used to mitigate some of the downsides of CGNAT going back a decade or so now
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 жыл бұрын
Considering that ninety something percent of people don't use port forwarding I don't think it's a huge deal. A VPN should be sufficient for incoming connections.
@Voyajer.
@Voyajer. 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for starlink to get oversubscribed by people who have viable alternatives!
@backkwek7122
@backkwek7122 3 жыл бұрын
Superb review! 🤙🏻
@DR-zj4od
@DR-zj4od 2 жыл бұрын
I have Starlink and love it. It works great on hot days and cold days. Last night a severe thunderstorm came through our area. We lost signal for two 16 second periods. I was searching the web so I noticed my searches stopped so I checked the signal. My son was watching KZbin videos and never noticed any outages because of the buffering. I will never go back to any telephone, cable or fiber-based service again. When those go down, and they do often, they stay down longer to find the break and repair it. My Starlink works much better than ALL the other services I have had and even my neighbors plan to switch to Starlink from their fiber optic and telephone-based service in the future. I live in Northeastern Oklahoma and Starlink is in Beta but it is still awesome.
@objection_your_honor
@objection_your_honor 3 жыл бұрын
If Starlink goes out of business, you'll see the ascii middle finger graphics when you try to login.
@piconano
@piconano 3 жыл бұрын
@Cory Barrett DirectTV is to name one, and they wanted to provide internet to USA and Canada. Not Global.
@piconano
@piconano 3 жыл бұрын
@Cory Barrett They did back then. You needed a phone line for your uploads, but you'd get the downloads from the satellite dish that was used for the TV as well.
@LGTheOneFreeMan
@LGTheOneFreeMan 3 жыл бұрын
I love how I paid $90 for the beta, I live in the middle of nowhere, and the mofos still haven't gotten back to me.
@learnnorth6192
@learnnorth6192 3 жыл бұрын
You signed up for a waitlist on a beta service, timeline advised before you paid deposit. It’s a hard wait but you’ll be so happy once you finally get it. I just got mine, and it’s great.
@hoffbd1
@hoffbd1 3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME objective review which is a rare thing on youtube.
@harrywoods9784
@harrywoods9784 3 жыл бұрын
Love your data driven narrative🤞
@RaidOwl
@RaidOwl 3 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about using Starlink as a secondary internet source because Spectrum is buttcheeks.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 3 жыл бұрын
Hello fellow Spectrum user!
@mossvibes
@mossvibes 3 жыл бұрын
isn’t that the truth 😫
@RaidOwl
@RaidOwl 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling Howdy, Jeff. I'm a big fan of your channel. Let us know when we can buy a Red Shirt Jeff shirt ;)
@GreenRecon
@GreenRecon 3 жыл бұрын
@@RaidOwl In red, natch
@l-_._-l
@l-_._-l 3 жыл бұрын
Tree b like: yo bro I am just standing i did nothing 🤣
@victoriaburkhardt9974
@victoriaburkhardt9974 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, sir. Thanks for the useful information.
@ShawnBeighle
@ShawnBeighle 2 жыл бұрын
Great review!
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