Spawning Displacement

[@thegreatautismo224]

6:52 "Observe here as I die"

[@thatoneguy9582]

Yoshicraft224 Absolutely beautiful

[@boeing747-8]

Story of my life.

[@mayronlucas1422]

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[@thegreatautismo224]

8

[@woofyou1186]

8

[@L3X1N]

7:27 You had *one job,* Lakitu.

[@dragonmanover9000]

He's been drinking a little too heavily lately.

[@ydertgf]

lol

[@nightterror6727]

"Lakitu is slackituing"

[@richardmatthews2598]

You had one job, Pipe.

[@TinyDeskEngineer]

It's so hilarious to watch Lakitu focusing on the pipe only for Mario to never come out of it and then be revealed to be standing _directly next to the pipe_ just out of view.

[@Jumpyluff]

And this, my friends, is another reason to start speedruns on console reset.

[@naircat]

Yeah I got so excited for Mario 64 runners having to take 30 minutes to set up a run by abusing it until I realized timing starts on power on and not file select hahaha.

[@abcdefghilihgfedcba]

But that’s such a waste of time. It’s theoretically more fair and correct, but ugh, I’ll never do it.

[@ImSquiggs]

Wow, good point. For the first time ever, I feel like I'm not truly wasting 0:58 seconds of my life with every run, haha.

[@בתול-צ7י]

the 200 like

[@leftysheppey]

@@ImSquiggs tbh, that waste of 58seconds seems like a waste, compared to the 3 minutes somebody wastes for less than a second advantage. I get that it's all for a level playing field, but still haha

[@jharismaiden]

I lost it when Mario died prematurely in the demo.

[@jongyon7192p]

What if Die in a demo% speedrun?

[@ocarinaofmasks2241]

Same lol I cracked the hell up

[@CEtro569]

I was really hoping for some Mario World shit where you could control the demo

[@jongyon7192p]

I wanna see various ways to mess with the demo, and see Mario die in stupid ways or flail around like a blind man. I doubt this, but what if displacing mario to some far out place could make him get a star in the freaking demo haha. Like...dying on the Thwomp Fortress falling platforms?

[@dmas7749]

Reminds me of the demos in older games, where it's like they asked someone who's never played a game before, picked up the controller and they recorded it.

[@niccilomachiaveli]

One day, young pannenkoek was sitting in his room. He had just died for the fourth time on Watch for Rolling Rocks and his blood was boiling with rage. It was on that day that he decided he would get a masters in theoretical physics, for the sole purpose of, years later, coming back to Mario 64 and so thoroughly fuck it up the ass that it would never walk right again. He would pound the game into dust until higher mario theory had been advanced to the point that a zero a press run was possible. And Mario wept.

[@owenfrazier5209]

You me_n M_rio?

[@MarioFan587YT]

+Owen Frazier U wot m8?

[@tomjackal5708]

Cle_rly you don't underst_nd the intention here.

[@zenaidaalejo27]

Let me m_ke it better One d_y, young p_nnenkoek w_s sitting in his room. He h_d just died for the fourth time on w_tch for rolling rocks _nd his blood w_s boiling with r_ge. It w_s on th_t d_y th_t he decided to get _ m_sters in theoretic_l physics, for the sole purpose of, ye_rs l_ter, coming b_ck to m_rio 64 _nd so thoroughly fuck it up the _ss th_t would pound the g_me into dust until higher m_rio theory h_d been _dv_nced to the point th_t _ zero _ press run w_s possible. _nd m_rio wept. There we go, f_nt_stic

[@ehx3419]

Oh m_n, th_t's kind of riddiculous... But fun!

[@Cornbinks]

I love how I associate the file select music with learning advanced maths at this point.

[@Lodekac]

5:52 that sound is like me playing the piano.

[@puckie643]

5:53 Nightmarish orchestra •~•;;

[@PixelSprixie]

Oh wow I went back to that moment at full volume by mistake, ahh my ears... ;-;

[@memerboi69.0]

it sounds like something or someone falling on a piano

[@dootdoodle569]

9:41 the word “displacement” changes to “dispalcement” when Mario enters the castle, but the rest of the text stays the same

[@gemstonegynoid7475]

It got displaced

[@quinn7894]

Wow. Good attention to detail. What an unnecessarily fitting easter egg.

[@zacharymogel9500]

@@gemstonegynoid7475 you mean dispalced

[@epicCoolgiytryhsrfsea]

because the castle is like a palace

[@TheXnaut]

Man, I want to watch these while doing other work. But I can't because I need full attention to read the subtitles.

[@UncommentatedPannen]

Well you could always wait until the main channel version of it comes out

[@TheXnaut]

Oh dang it. I wasn't aware of there being a main channel. I was just suggested these and thought they were cool when I had the time to invest on watching them proper. I'll keep an eye out for sure.

[@UncommentatedPannen]

For more about the differences between my 2 channels, you can read the FAQ at bit.ly/pannenkeok2012FAQ

[@iP0STcomments]

well

[@xdeathcon]

@@iP0STcomments what was the point of replying to a 3 year old comment...?

[@jongyon7192p]

I hope to one day see you mess with the mario face at the start and glitch it to hell and back.

[@MrCheeze]

Landing on top of the clock? That sounds like an actual A press save, is it?

[@lamialua26]

Might be, but only if you want to go back to TTC, I think.

[@jongyon7192p]

Ya, this A is already saved. It must've been disappointing after finding spawn displacement since there are so many moving objects in TTC, but only one star is close to an object that can keep mario on the clock.

[@Lugmillord]

Well, as mentioned - only in the Japanese version.

[@SuperSmashDolls]

Well, considering he's working on a 120-star run, he's going back there multiple times. So a Japanese-version 120-star run would save a few presses.

[@welcoe]

It is an A press save. There's a video about it.

[@izzc2506]

All of a sudden what I learned in geometry class all of a sudden felt way more useful.

[@nil8659]

it looks like that they weren't lying to us about how useful it would be

[@randomviewer896]

What happens if displaced mario somehow catches a star while in a demo? I know it's almost entirely unfeasible but does it add to the star count of one of the files?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

It would count as a star collected for file 1. However, we haven't found a combination of displacement + demo that could collect a star

[@chlorobyte]

And what if the file you set the displacement on wasn't file 1?

[@TheGael95]

What if you could somehow save an A press by collecting a star like that

[@UncommentatedPannen]

TheGael95 Then that would be pretty cool

[@TheGael95]

cb2198 The Super Mario 64 ABC Challenge community (there's pannenkoek, Tyler and other guys aswell)

[@jojogape]

7:00 "Observe here as I die on a rotating platform, causing a game over to occur."

[@OrioPrisco]

around 9:42 the word "displacement" became "dispalcement" ! Intended or not ?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

A couple of my subtitles were actually 2 different subtitles juxtaposed, because I found that putting a shadow on them during TTC made them easier to read, but the shadow looked weird anywhere else. So what you saw was simply a result of me catching the typo in one of them, but no the other

[@OrioPrisco]

+pannenkeok2012 OK I understand. Great video btw I love when Mario die during the demo !

[@TimeTravelPenguinTAS]

Watching the intro in fast forward made my brain have an awful chill as if I was TASing. Jesus

[@toonstink9448]

and you decided to have all 6 castle themes playing...

[@diegoescobar4268]

5:50

[@toonstink9448]

@@diegoescobar4268 thanks, I hate it :)

[@g45635g]

Just out of curiousity, could if be possible if by chance, at the end of the demo, demo mario is standing on a moving or rotating platform that causes this spawn displacement, would that displacement carry on ingame?

[@EmergencyTemporalShift]

SuperSonicFan411 I would assume so.

[@SirMalorak]

Taking Mario 64 apart, one little glitch at a time. I love how technical this stuff is and the presentation of your videos is amazing. You deserve more views, sir or madam!

[@UncommentatedPannen]

If my goal was more viewers, I would go the extra mile and commentate all these videos. But that's not my goal. My goal is to make this information accessible and understandable as fast as I can, which is why I'm making a bunch of videos on my secondary channel to cover everything

[@denzpants9285]

When will you make a pancake tutorial?

[@deejaysilver9]

5:52 Ah, the castle music! Just like I remember it!

[@lamialua26]

1:50 "read" instead of "ready". First typo I manage to find in any of his videos. Congrats!

[@SnigelSnigelson]

Look at 9:44, as the word "displacement" changes into "dispalcement" :)

[@snwbll]

The two letters got displaced :D

[@SkicoNow]

And at 3:56, it says, "And lo and behold". Is that a typo?

[@lamialua26]

+Nico Skow I noticed that, but I'm not sure if it's a typo. I just don't even know what he meant.

[@snwbll]

Nico Skow Not a typo.

[@tylersfoot]

I love your vids and dedication you put into them!

[@trombonesolo]

these infographics are very cool and helpful. thanks for making these videos so comprehensive

[@MinusPi-p9c]

I love how all your videos are pretty much formal papers, just on this one video game.

[@grayfruit]

all this, just because of a single errant frame in a game's programming. I feel like this is something that might bore the non-player to tears but it's endlessly fascinating to me

[@doctorwhouse3881]

Today I learned that was a demo and not the video pre-rendered.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Doctor Whouse ???

[@BHRA78]

@@want-diversecontent3887 he means that he thought it was Pre-recorded and not actual live game footage

[@Ceafto2007]

Did you expect an n64 to hold thousands of frames of video?

[@nil8659]

@@Ceafto2007 if it can handle 3d,it can handle videos.

[@sorae42]

@@nil8659don't forget that prerecorded videos take more storage space than having just input file playing in a level and back then memory and storage are very precious things not to waste

[@isabellegrimes8775]

4:46 News Flash! TTC still resisting 0-A Button Challenge!

[@sunk6478]

I’m kinda hungry TTC is still resiting the A button challange

[@Lugmillord]

Really neat explanation. I love your educational video :D The animations are always so cute! It's interesting that they found out about this problem between the Japanese and US release. They probably exited the course on the WDW rotating platform at some point I suppose.

[@6dollerbill]

So basically, what you're saying is that depending on where you die on a rotating platform, it can influence your spawn point. I assume this is because when mario dies, the camera points in the spot he died, but the camera does not focus on mario himself. When mario respawns, I believe it tries to take him from the spot the camera went to, but mario is slightly off of this area, so it takes him a bit off where he should be? Just what i got from the video. Pretty cool!

[@dipoursan6285]

Man I don't care an inch about speedrunning or having fun with this game nervermind the way but I find your videos so interesting ; That's great work, continue this way man ;)

[@brianpso]

Very well explained man, I still hope more amazing strats use this some day.

[@arfansthename]

You know when you go into a pipe in SML2, exit, then go on another level, you fall through the floor? This is the same principle.

[@PC_Simo]

0:57 But if every point in 3D space moves in the same direction at the same speed, then the entire 3D space moves in that direction at that speed, meaning that the platform itself would move nowhere, relative to the rest of the 3D space. So, we should only observe a stationary platform.

[@typecasto]

Every point does not move. But if it did, it would move at 10u/s

[@PC_Simo]

@yeet machine That explains it.

[@JayBoatKing]

Can you somehow combine this with the PU trick involving the Boat in JRB? As in, massively displace Mario to end up in the wrong place entirely when returning to stage?

[@OldDistantHermit]

I hope you get a career in education someday. Your visuals are always so helpful and easy for common people to understand.

[@sinistar3198]

Please do more videos showcasing real world scenarios. This is actually cool as fuck and I had no idea it existed.

[@UncommentatedPannen]

what real world scenarios did I cover exactly?

[@sinistar3198]

+pannenkeok2012 I mean, yes, those. But. I'unno, I just want more. Sorry.

[@Orangestar1]

"Reverse Spawning Displacement" seems like a misnomer, since you're not actually reversing the displacement, just changing the order in which objects load to displace yourself.

[@UncommentatedPannen]

Are you saying you have a better name for it? Because otherwise, you're not really making a good case for how it should be changed

[@Orangestar1]

"Objective Spawning Displacement" since it depends on what object slot is being replaced?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

Both forms of spawning displacement use objects

[@Orangestar1]

Well then combine the two! "Reverse Objective Spawning Displacement" works for me.

[@HappyBeeGaming]

Why is the word objective necessary though if you now know they both have objects.

[@posthistoricdino422]

The displaced new game was far funnier than it has any right to be

[@thenerdygamer6841]

Finally, we're read to discuss spawning displacement

[@ozzy_anamations17]

me when UncommentedPannen uploads a video that i can understand:

[@istvanchung]

Would it be possible to save A presses in castle movement using large spawning displacements? The example with spawning underground was pretty dramatic.

[@Codricmon]

Would it be possible to get a star or die on the spinning pyramid top? That might get some interesting results (or just do nothing because it would land you out of bounds, I guess).

[@BerzerkVideos]

Anyone notice how on 9:44 "displacement" goes to "dispalcement"?

[@chlorobyte]

btw, trying to do this glitch in WDW, i died at the edge of the platform and the death animation played underwater...

[@georgeerniej]

I was just thinking of something... Can Mario teleport? What if you have a pre set HOLP to where you want Mario to end up, do a hat in hand glitch and clone a chuckya, then get grabbed by the same chuckya? Wouldn't Mario release the chuckya which would appear at the HOLP, but it's holding Mario so would he teleport there too?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

Holding a chuckya clone + getting grabbed by that chuckya = chuckya gets thrown and Mario gets suck in midair in the being-grabbed animation, thereby softlocking the game

[@ffnovice7]

You are a scholar and a gentleman. Kudos.

[@screechingtoad2683]

What happens if you glitch it so the platform is swinging REALLY fast, are on it, then exit the course?

[@GewelReal]

How can you dislike this?

[@ledraps22]

I dont mind if there's no real use that comes out of this, dying in the demos is quality enough. This is seriously impressive. This is some really great breakdown of a game just through seemingly useless bugs.

[@cantthinkofbettername5065]

actually it saves an A press on entering TTC after grabbing the 100 coin star.

[@UncommentatedPannen]

It's after grabbing the red coin star. The 100 coin star doesn't eject Mario from the level

[@cantthinkofbettername5065]

pannenkeok2012 My B. Don't know why I said 100 coin star.

[@LeftClickShift]

Would it be possible to displace the spawning location in such as way that Mario enters an unintended loading zone in the demo? Like, getting Mario to enter the indoor slide in the Cool Cool Mountain demo?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

Theoretically yes. But the displacements we have at our disposal are quite limited in terms of distance

[@joeldixton5627]

In a theoretical world where the floats are rounded the same way they are in the wii u version, could that rounding have amplified impact on spawning displacement? I know no version of the game has both these tricks, I'm just thinking theoretically

[@joeldixton5627]

Also does this work on moving objects such as the penguin or koopa? If it did, presumably you could get a lot from sending koopa the quick to the shadow realm like you did in that one video

[@joeldixton5627]

Also I assume it doesn't work for cannons?

[@Descenacre]

Found your channel today and have watched like 10 videos so far, I like channels like you and stryder7x

[@_maestroX]

The master of Super Mario 64.

[@7thdayfallout]

"Finally, we're read to discuss spawning displacement,..." 1:50 unfortunately the statue of limitations is not up yet for typos, i am going to have to request this video be shut down and i be refunded for the electricity i used to watch it

[@danielwoods8263]

Finally lets be read to discuss spawning displacement

[@TheAmbientWarrior]

Hm. So the demo is actually just giving Mario the directions for all his movements from some preset pattern. I just always assumed it was some kind of cutscene.

[@Z1mb0bw4y]

Does this work with Whomp at the top of Whomp's Fortress?

[@Z1mb0bw4y]

Actually now that I've asked this, I'm even more curious if you can use cloned objects to do spawn displacement?

[@SkicoNow]

You can't stand on clones, so there's no spawning displacement.

[@trionhd7223]

Yoou mean King Whomp!

[@The_mario_fan]

So I found a glitch on SM64 that allows you to have a fixed position camera in the area outside of BBH and the area outside the castle. I couldn't find a way to find this inside the castle. I'm not sure if this has already been found, though.

[@The_mario_fan]

MarioBlaster10 But doesn't the star menu come up, so you can't select fixed position camera?

[@trionhd7223]

Can you Do it out of cap stages and what would it Look like hacked with the gate in Ddd? Dhnii

[@tctrainconstruct2592]

can you stack up the spawning displacements? (1 demo gets desynced, then it will displace the second demo etc... and at some point the game will go absolutely nuts)

[@joechristo2]

probably

[@Srcsqwrn]

How do displacements help? What do you use them for?

[@VulpesVulpes42]

Why would someone dislike this. Just why.

[@SkicoNow]

I know, right?

[@kaimanjig9607]

Mindless four year olds who ask their parents to read the video and find it boring for teaching you things...

[@kaimanjig9607]

+Kaiman JIG but I do find this interesting...

[@kaimanjig9607]

+Kaiman JIG but I do find this interesting...

[@MegamikazeMoriko]

disliked for killing poor lil demo mario

[@kewl0210]

That "can start a new game from not the default location" thing is really interesting. Generally speaking on N64 runs it doesn't matter what's on the files you're not using as long as you start from a new game file (Like in Diddy Kong Racing you can use T.T. from the beginning because he's unlocked for the whole cartridge, not the save file). So in theory one could use this glitch in a speedrun, TAS or otherwise, to get a sort of "head start" if there were a way to displace you in a way that would save time. You'd just die on one file, then start a new one. Course, generally M64 runs are started from "on reset" so maybe not, if you go with that rule. I'm also curious about how that affects the "jumping out of the pipe" animation at the beginning. During the initial animation, is Mario loaded into RAM already (But not visible)? Or does he only load after the full initial cut scene is done and the pipe comes out of the ground? What would happen if the displacement stuck you INSIDE another loading zone? If Mario is already loaded when the cutscene starts and you could displace him far enough to enter the castle, you could theoretically skip the intro cutscene. Though it doesn't seem like there's anything that can displace Mario very far.

[@Accj21]

Does anyone know why the 7th red coin at 2:03 doesn't make a sound when collected?

[@thewierdragonbaby4843]

9:44 how did you type "displacement" correctly and then have it transition to "dispalcement" later?

[@meta04]

that's actually two different pieces of text; the one in TTC has a shadow (he thought it was easier to read this way) and the other one doesn't (because it would look weird); he caught the "dispalcement" on one but not the other, I suppose

[@thewierdragonbaby4843]

@@meta04 oh okay, yeah makes sense

[@viemarirunoa]

Magic

[@Stevothehuman]

I wonder, are you gonna make any videos about Chaos Edition?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

No, I only care about Nintendo official SM64 versions

[@SSAS1129]

block: *turns into door* Mario: *visible confusion*

[@quinn7894]

5:52 Music!

[@Vextrove]

This is basically physics

[@theHatted]

5:52 THE BETS ORCHASTRA (my ears bled)

[@nikopack7571]

5:52 peach's castle **intesifies**

[@MarioGalaxy2003]

9:40 dispalcement?

[@Triarawn]

8:31 Mario! Don't jump! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@toto_feather8732]

5:52 is that heaven's anthem?

[@Char42]

IIRC one of the A presses is to get into Wing Mario over the Rainbow... can spawning displacement be used from leaving TTC to get into that course and save that press?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

Theoretically yes. But the range of spawning displacements is very small, and so I don't believe any of the objects yield a big enough displacement to reach that far

[@BombchuLink]

Hey; does this meand we can use HOLP to make a throwable block spawn high in the sky like in WF fro the second star? and Ride it for spawning displacement? Even though it's not rotating; it might be able to move fast enough to get us in the Secret aquarium if it doesn't have a cap on it's speed. Or better yet use reverse spawning displacement and HOLP to setup giant warps; and even save TTC re-enter presses. There's gotta be a non VC only way into the Aquarium.

[@UncommentatedPannen]

Platform release displacement is a thing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4q0YouGgsemm68. However, that strat requires placing the HOLP in a PU, which is something that can only be done on virtual console as far as we know

[@ghb323]

9:25 its because the game does not conserve the displacement, since these platforms do not displace Mario.

[@gzmacleod]

Is it possible to do spawning displacement on the rotating platform around the volcano in Lethal Lava Land?

[@baxterburt1472]

6:00 could you use this to get a 1 star run? (BLJs)

[@kevinguimond7711]

*Mario spwans a pixel to the left* Super Mario 64 basement nerd: let me research this for 100 hours 😒

[@little_kopy]

someones mad that they are dumb

[@Ritalio]

9:44 why does the a and the l switch in displacement?

[@telatomodosh7410]

I tenner doing that jump in the beginning of your video. Ahh, the memories

[@Z10ZeeTen]

Would it be possible to do "behind-the-programming" videos like this for other games from around the same time as Mario 64 (like Sonic Adventure or Ocarina of Time) or are they too different/too unfamiliar to work with?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

I only make videos for SM64, since all my knowledge/experience is for that game

[@Z10ZeeTen]

pannenkeok2012 Ah, okay.

[@Pilgrimman007]

Could you travel to a spinning platform in a PU and use the correspondingly massive displacement to displace Mario to a favorable position to save an "A" press? Do spinning platforms function that way in PUs?

[@tannerjacobi3497]

PUs have no objects in them, and thus, no rotating platforms. Even if they did, though, I doubt it would work. PUs exist because of overflow/underflow errors in floor and wall detection, so that the game thinks Mario is standing on a floor when he isn't. If there were a PU version of an object, spawning displacement would probably just use the main universe's object as the reference point, since that game would think he's on that one.

[@PeterFedak64]

You might be able to do a lot more than save an A press ;)

[@alisiaale565]

But what if Mario slide-skips by accident using spawning displacement? 🤔

[@sahazra]

Are there any other gameplay differences or glitches between the Japanese and the American versions of the game? Are there any glitches that can only be performed in the American version?

[@syrelian]

The demo with fighting Bowser is only in NA, thats all I know

[@linkthepringlesman3951]

Can you get Demo Mario to collect a star? If so, what happens?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

It would count as a star for file 1. However, we haven't found a displacement/demo course that would allow for this to happen without hacks

[@grapz2245]

What do the demos look like for Game Overing on the Pyramid Top? the displacement must be incredibly far... Or those falling blocks. if you could (theoretically) die on any chosen frame while they fall, what would the displacement on the demo look like? surely there must be SOME kind of displacement that can get a star for us... Even better, is there a way to combine this with VSP/HSP conservation? The right displacement, along with the right speed conservation might just be enough to get us a star.

[@linkthepringlesman3951]

No, unfortunately. The falling blocks require exiting a stage, since the death animation takes too long. While the insane speed of the pyramid top might seem good, it is only horizontal speed, making it useless without vertical.

[@tcoren1]

UncommentatedPannen can you get 121 stars in a file then? (Assuming an obtainable star was found)

[@RarefoilB]

For some reason, I'm thinking this is the coolest thing I've ever seen.

[@RubyPiec]

0:35 All of the comments right now are timestamps so heres a timestamp

[@Gelsamel]

9:44 I wonder why the l and a was displaced in displacement?

[@cantthinkofbettername5065]

because it's a character displacement CAPTAIN OBVIOUS, AWAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

[@Catmeowfs]

5:53 MUSIC

[@grassdigger8695]

@pannenkeok2012 How much investigating have you done on the Eel in JRB? If its AI could be abused to put it into weird places, then it could be possible to get some much needed knockback to gain height.

[@UncommentatedPannen]

No investigation on the eel. That seems like something that would be better done by someone who knows how to look into the code. But also, knockback can't be used to gain height

[@grassdigger8695]

It could be enough knockback to get the 4 chest star, right? Nonetheless, thanks for the response.

[@Glitchy-zh7ts]

This is a Very Awesome video!!! Great job on all of your content!!!!!

[@GoldenKingStudio]

Can you use spawning displacement in Shifting Sand Lands from the rotating pyramid top to save the two A button presses when you enter the pyramid? That is a long shot, because from what I can tell, it only displaces you when you exit the level. You can't instantly get from the pyramid platform to inside the pyramid.

[@UncommentatedPannen]

I think I tried that once, and it turned out the pyramid top is overwritten by some other object inside the pyramid

[@GoldenKingStudio]

pannenkeok2012 Ah, that is unfortunate. That would have been so perfect. Except for spawn displacement only working on the Japanese version. Is it true that the European version is would allow the exact same strats as the North American version, just with different input timings since the game runs at 50fps?

[@UncommentatedPannen]

I really don't know much about the PAL version

[@soulfulanathema5094]

So how does the one frame in TTC work? Does it pretty much go "So the star was at this location, he was on the spinner, compared to where the star should be, we'll spawn him HERE! And spawns him lower"?

[@tannerjacobi3497]

Does this work with a rotating chuckya holding Mario instead of a rotating platform? Since Mario moves with chuckya while he's being held, it seems similar enough to how platforms function. I dunno.

[@UncommentatedPannen]

I doubt it. You can't even exit out while chuckya's grabbing you

[@tannerjacobi3497]

You could probably die in chuckya's hands due to death barrier proximity, an out-of-bounds deathclip, or something else like that. I just figure it would extremely useful if this glitch worked with chuckya, since he can be moved around and his object slot manipulated as-needed.

[@UncommentatedPannen]

Well actually, Mario doesn't move when chuckya's turning. The real Mario is invisible where he got grabbed, while chuckya's just holding Mario's physical form. That's why the out of body glitch can occur

[@tannerjacobi3497]

pannenkeok2012 Cool! So that explains why the camera fixes on chuckya and abruptly snaps to Mario as soon as chuckya lets go.

[@ichthysking863]

The spawning displacement in the demo has to have spawn at least one rumor about demo mario killing himself or something

[@thtnblckscrnlol]

What will happen if mario spawns on a falling brick? Do mario spawn in midair or directly on the falling brick beacuse theres no stable ground on his feet? This can probably glitch out. Can be used with Luigi