Spec Ops Review & Test the Matchlock Musket

[@martindrengenxbox360]

I feel like you fit perfectly on the early 2000's Discovery channel. I get this nostalgic feeling watching some of your videos and I love it, keep it up guys!

[@letsgetturnt9759]

Right that’s what I’m saying these gonna have there own show I can smell it

[@Wolvenworks]

man...i miss early 2000s Discovery channel. just binging to How It's Made, Junkyard Wars, and Mythbusters...in glorious 4:3 ofc (widescreen HD is only popularized in the 2010s)

[@martindrengenxbox360]

@@Wolvenworks Bro don't forget Future Weapons, that show had a big hand in making me a gun guy. Now it's all lame "reality" shows and other boring stuff.

[@martindrengenxbox360]

I just remembered brainiac too, man I loved that show.

[@Wolvenworks]

@@martindrengenxbox360 don't remember watching that one. but i agree that recently Natgeo, History Channel and especially Discovery has been TOO INVESTED in reality shows.

[@Louie661]

Cam mentions about VR games and imagines how much of a chore of loading a rifle like that would be. There is actually a VR gun simulation game called "Hotdogs, Horseshoes & Handgrenades" or "H3VR" for short. This game features muzzle loading rifles and pistols in which you do need to go through the process and movements of loading.

[@reactedboss99]

Ya I have that game and I can't seem to figure out how to fire the musket at all lol

[@Louie661]

@@reactedboss99 I hope this vid can help your circumstance. Quite easy to get down with a feather if practice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oojOd5uDhdusbsU

[@gmodiscool14]

@@reactedboss99 because rock brain hahahahaha

[@eiennofantasy]

Great episode. And Cam is stepping up on his role playing! Very soon you guys may need to change into period correct costumes when firing. I can imagine cam and izzy wearing american revolution attire while firing a musket

[@yessirski2855]

That would be amazing 😂

[@DalyActual]

Revolutionary outfits with the modern plate carriers on them 😂

[@dimas152mm]

still too modern this one example is like from around 1500-1600s

[@ralphthefanboy]

This channel has a real Mythbusters energy to it.

[@GENERALx5H4DY]

I will comment this on every video i remember to watch As much as i love the Darker or more adult side of vet culture (BRCC, Baddie, Nikko, the guys tht lean into the fucked up humor nd dark comedy) these dude are just to wholesome.

[@Floridian_Kole]

I know right! Eli, Baddie and 🍩 on Unsubscribe are so raunchy and hilarious. Nikko is funny AF but Izzy and Cam are so genuine and wholesome, they're honestly my favorite to watch.

[@EarCandyContraption]

"Federally, these are not classified as firearms" **ATF wants to know your location**

[@conchoid5749]

What? Why? That makes absolutely no sense

[@SwordTune]

@@conchoid5749 What part?

[@conchoid5749]

@@SwordTune the whole atf thing

[@Bayan1905]

I used to work with a guy, full blooded Native American, historian, archeologist, one of the most knowledgeable people I ever knew on the time period from the 1500's on to the Revolutionary War. I don't know if he does now, but he's hunted deer successfully with a matchlock. I know he killed one whitetail doe. He said just stand downwind and since it's a smoothbore, 50 yards and under. I own a reproduction of a predecessor of the matchlock, a medieval handgonne. That's one that's nothing more than a barrel on a stick. It's a hilarious amount of fun at the range.

[@HoodJigsaw]

I love how they are like kids at a candy shop handling this stuff; I don't know much about guns but I can tell they're enjoying the history and the unique nature of the things they review~

[@shinodamasaru7945]

And both of them have nice shot too.

[@TiniestComa8]

This was amazing, no other words needed, had a smile on my face the whole time you guys are awesome. Keep it going

[@PFCJenkins2]

New podcast AND a shift fire? It's gonna be a good day, tater

[@legion_sqd]

podcast? where?

[@ahandgrenade3640]

@@legion_sqd pcfm podcast.

[@yessirski2855]

Couldn’t have said it better myself 🙌

[@legion_sqd]

@@ahandgrenade3640 cheers mate!

[@eltito9829]

"Squire my monopod please" I watched that in a loop XD

[@Myuutsuu85]

The tone was just perfect 🤣

[@Floridian_Kole]

Honestly, Shiftfire and your podcast is my favorite content watch on KZbin💯 Thank you guys🙌

[@schishne7546]

have watched every episode of these guys so far and ive gotta say...this is rather rare for me indeed

[@dragon12234]

It should be mentioned that at the time, the musket was a specific anti-armor weapon, as the more common arquebus was often too weak to penetrate high-grade armor. And until more reliable mechanisms, like the flintlock (the wheel lock was to expensive for mass troops) these guns coexisted with weapons like the longbow. Melee weapons were also still very prominent as due to the limited range even charging infantry could close the distance between reloads. However, as ranges increased eventually only armored charging cavalry remained, only fully disappearing after ww1

[@dolsopolar]

and the fact that earlier muskets were a marksman weapon firing aimed shots hence a rearsights were more common on this than later volley fired flintlocks

[@leftwardglobe1643]

I don't know of any examples of bows being used in the same formations as arquebuses or muskets. Not from the Thirty Years War forward at least. Crossbows were still around, but that was brief and largely a matter of availability. Once armor advanced to the point that even arquebus fire was insufficient, they faded entirely. Also worth noting that these weapons were used in conjunction with pikes, often in Spanish style squares or "tercios" which protected the musketeers or arquebusiers from flanking charges by cavalry, or Dutch style line formations that alternated between blocks of pikes and firing lines of musketeers. Add onto either of these supporting artillery and armored cavalry, who themselves were often armed with pistols and/or lances/sabers and you have a typical army of the Renaissance. This was standard practice until the development of the flint lock and even then remained viable until bayonets became common and advanced enough to properly replace the function of the pikes. Pike and shot warfare is incredibly interesting.

[@AimBitX]

One reason I’m interested into ww1 is how much it changed warfare and was intertwined with past and modern warfare

[@nathanielwilcox4947]

Also armour of the time could deflect arrows, so pretty good as well as just amout all melee weapons, armour deserves more respect. It is good at its job.

[@dragon12234]

@@nathanielwilcox4947 Yeah, armor dissappeared due to making good enough armor to properly protect got too expensive and heavy, especially as foot marches grew longer and longer

[@bodenlanglois6032]

Love to your style of presentation. Wish I had an old matchlock. Such an underrated gun. Definitely deserves a reproduction. It's be cool to se more videos with with if possible

[@ninovictorgnity7195]

Since you two in Gamology. Im still here supporting you both forever 👌

[@PunishedJester]

This was an amazing episode! Clearly you both had taken 1500’s marksmanship electives during your range time.

[@anthonyacosta9120]

13:20 that pose is epic

[@abieldiaz4015]

Would love to see more older weapons like these from you two

[@Linksays]

The fact that they used Noob’s recreation of a musket is amazing lmao

[@TrIpMo1981]

Cam and Israel keep up the awesome videos. You guys are so chill to watch.

[@MartasZLA]

60 grains is very light load for this musket. I use in my Corrigé AN IX 120 grains. These guns are amazing!

[@zaqzilla1]

Imagine reloading that in the middle of a fight. That would take some brass balls.

[@johnmorales6281]

And that's why at the time you ended up getting Pike and shot warfare

[@MrCarlBackhausen]

Love the energy you two have! You are wonderful and so dang lovable! I love this video and i will absolutely watch your other videos after this.

[@nathanielwilcox4947]

Just a slight correction up into the 16th century Armour was made thicker to stop bullets armour would be shot and have a proof mark to show that it stopped a bullet hence bulletproof. Guns and knights existed alongside eachother for a pretty decent amount of time. Yes but notike immediately.

[@ford544]

Love these guys

[@gunnargunnarssonsson9581]

I like how Izzy always goes for center mass and Cam is all about headshot.

[@ref0522]

cam went to sniper school if i recall correctly, i don't know about izzy. probably that's why 🤣 edit: turns out cam didnt go there, but to me he seems like he wanted to according to their newest podcast lol

[@SmokeyOwOs]

It's always nice to see these killing machines act like children with historical objects.

[@BoogalooBoy]

That's an excellent self-defense setup right there.

[@Specter_1125]

No, this was not the downfall of the knights. Decent plate armor could stop fire arms until the middle of the 17th century. Plate armor of the time was proofed against bullets, hence the origin of the term bullet proof. If you look at museum examples, you can see perfectly round dents causes by bullets.

[@killerkraut9179]

it depends

[@texasPITBULL54]

Thank you so many believe what this “expert” said the reality is full plate armor was just too expensive so it fell out of fashion. I hate the fud lore about knights and firearms so annoying.

[@killerkraut9179]

It Depends on the Barrel length and Distance !

[@dakaodo]

@Magpie Exactly -- "armor of proof" could be rated for what weapons it was proof against (similar to modern armor plate ratings Level III, IV, etc). Proof against crossbow bolts, pistols, muskets, etc. By the 16th century onward, breastplates/corselets that were proof against the latest, hardest-hitting muskets started to tip the scales at over 11 kg / 25 lbs. Being not the best ergonomic designs, they were tiring to wear for long periods (such as on marches), and some accounts describe the infantry conveniently "losing" their armor, strewn along the roadside. Another aspect supporting Dylan's point is that modern people don't have expertise w black powder, and so tend to oversimplify all black powder into one bucket. Over the course of several centuries, black powder underwent its own technology development curve as well, overlapping at the beginning with late-tech heavy crossbows/arbalests that used mechanical leverage to crank or winch extremely high draw weights. Early black powder was much less efficient, and over many decades was refined into faster-burning powder forms (finer powder for more surface area to burn faster/simultaneously, as well as corned powder with controlled clumping to uniformly distribute component ingredients for a smoother burn). Arrows and bolts, having sharp points, could penetrate armor with less energy on the more focused point. Anywhere from 120 J against mail and padding up to 200-230 J against plate. However, even late-period steel crossbows would have been hard-pressed to produce over 200 J, which is why late-period plate armor through the 15th century could be confidently sold as "proof against crossbow." Bullets are more blunt, especially prior to the development of the Minie ball, and would need to deliver over 990 J for comparable penetration against the exact same armor. Up through the 15th century, handguns could barely deliver this much energy in a shot, so armor was still effective enough to be useful. Throughout the 16th-17th centuries, black powder weapons developed rapidly, delivering 1250, 2500, 3000 J in a shot. Steel armor increased in quality as well as thickness (with a 1.414x increase in thickness yielding a 2x increase in penetration resistance, say from 2mm plate to 3mm plate). At some point, accuracy became more of a focus than additional penetration power for the better marginal gains in performance. Armorers found out that they could cheaply fulfill order specifications for armor of proof by simply making lower grade iron corselets MUCH thicker. So a ruler or nobleman might order 200 corselets proof against muskets for the same price as one fine breastplate and harness for the nobleman himself to wear. Or simply cheap out and give foot infantry lighter common armor. From Barwick: "Muskets could kill a man in proof armour at 100 yards, in common armour at 400 yards, and without armour at 600 yards." By the 17th century, a cuirassier's armour might be 4mm thick, rounded, and made of steel (not just iron). It would need about 2000 J to defeat it, meaning it would be proof against pistols, but not muskets of the day. This is interesting in comparison to modern 5.56x45 rounds, which have about 1500 J muzzle velocity, and can penetrate 3mm (of admittedly more modern steel) at 570 yards. (30 second Google search; I stand to be corrected as necessary) Humans in the 14th to 18th centuries didn't just sit on their thumbs and pick their noses, using a single fixed "black powder" for generations. They were just as competitive and hungry for victory (or at least not dying) as modern humans, and just as innovative within the constraints of their access to information and technology.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Yep, the downfall of knights was not on the regular battlefield, similar armoured troops existing long after knights. It was a combination of socio-poltical factors and siege technology. The knight's base of power, the castle, became obsolete as only large forts could effectively hold on in gun powder sieges (which could last decades with the proper preparations) this allowed countries to begin to centralise and remove even more power and wealth from the lesser nobility into the hands of the higher nobility, which combined with the pre-existing decline of lesser nobles choosing to to pay extra taxes instead of service on the battle field as knights (prefuring to get educated and serve as officers, engineers and artillerists, positions that paid better due to exclusivity) and knights were replaced by less exclusive units of a similar role and function.

[@Idkgoogleitbro]

Thanks Izzy and cam!!!

[@NotoriousGhost66]

Sim ! I'm glad that they got their history right ! Great video, abraços! 🇵🇹👍🏼

[@nicholashummel5062]

Love the podcast and the channel, I got my friends at work who were in the marines back in the day listening to y'all now. 👍👍

[@RegoXera]

7:07 THERE HE IS THERES MY BOY YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@Gordito2Galan]

Best channel no 🧢

[@marvs8760]

I love cam on this one

[@skunny2797]

We hunt deer in Pennsylvania with flintlock muskets each year. It’s an absolute blast, especially when the guns actually go off… 😂

[@dookcurruff9047]

Interesting love these old firearms

[@stevenglendale9053]

Been waiting for this

[@Bayan1905]

Recoil, hell my son shoots a .69 French Cavallerie carbine from the Napoleonic Wars, that matchlock is a pussycat given the weight of it. I shot my first musket in 1998 in my early 20's when I got hired as a re-enactor. I first fired a Brown Bess musket and got hooked on them ever since. Oh, and if you think shooting a musket is fun, try shooting a black powder muzzleloading cannon, that's where the gun really begins.

[@a-a-ron9096]

Muskets with PCs on...love it! hahhaa I'm really enjoying all the different segments and videos. Keep up the awesome content guys!

[@ItsAVolcano]

Hope to see more of these in the future, especially a wheellock episode.

[@colbunkmust]

Your armorer needs to check up on his history. Properly hardened late medieval and early renaissance steel plate armor was proofed against muskets(this is where the term "bulletproof" comes from), and armored cavalry was used by multiple nations up through the late 19th century in the form of cuirassiers. Armor didn't disappear from the battlefield due to firearms, it just got thicker and only covered the more vital parts of the body to compensate for the extra thickness of the remaining pieces.

[@Kevc00]

Yeah honestly like cavalry continued to wear armour on their chest and head well into the 19th century.

[@dwrdwlsn5]

I did historical Interpretation at Jamestown prior to 2007, the 400th commemoration of the landing there and I learned how to fire one of those. I did it quite a bit and am SO happy firearms have improved a bit over the centuries. In my talk about it, I always said it was the closest any firearm could ever get to 'infantry proof', since Infantry can break ANYTHING. Even if all of the moving parts FAIL, it is still possible to fire the weapon. Just... um... Don't get the match too close to your unused powder. It doesn't end well. One thing, Jamestown was an oddity in many ways, but the colonists there didn't do volley fire generally. I was taught to hit what I aimed at and get 2 aimed shots off in a minute.

[@Lumi457]

Man I love these guys

[@llabronco]

There's a number of different military culture KZbin channels out there, but this one has the best host chemistry and also feels like it would be the most TV-ready. If you put together a few of their regular segments it could easily seem like an episode of a show on Discovery (like another commenter mentioned) or History Channel, etc.

[@tonypang83]

I'm not really into military culture, but I followed them via Gamology (since gaming is my hobby). I enjoy their banter, and their videos are usually enjoyable even if you don't know much about the military.

[@militaryterminator]

Yess

[@jesusvelaz1995]

Its going to be a good day!

[@PenumbranWolf]

I really enjoyed watching these two dorks play with this. I would love to see them struggle with a Wheellock.

[@scottthecrazy]

This video is sweet! I enjoyed this so much!

[@gregorybrown4062]

One of the best parts of matchlocks is the ease and speed of clearing it

[@breakactionnoob]

7:05 hey look is me

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic5825]

wasn't expecting it

[@g1zem_x]

7:07 yoooo thats lego lmaoo

[@lepmuhangpa]

Loved this episode.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

The weapons platform the Musketeers of the Three Musketeers fame were suppose to use in battle. And also the first guns of colonial America way back when it was all belt buckles on hats and shoes.

[@murphy7801]

I mean flintlock actually was becoming popular in the the early 1600 and the musketeers is like 1620-30's so they probably have flintlocks

[@Tadicuslegion78]

@@murphy7801 according to the sources I've read it goes matchlock to wheellock to flintlock, with flintlock taking over in about the 1660s

[@Velkan1396]

@@Tadicuslegion78 and keep in mind the new firing mechanisms, specially the wheellock, were much more expensive, so they first took over the weapons of the cavalry, not the infantry.

[@calebroca5134]

I could watch you guys do anything and it’d be interesting. Just found y’all this week and you guys are entertaining as fuck. Great work!

[@Lukeo2412]

3:50 watching Cam was hilarious 😂

[@jessejohnson9871]

When I've shot muzzle loaders ive done powder, then patch and ball with the ball ontop of the patch.

[@kawaii_akuma9267]

YEEEEESSSSS MUSKET BABY LETS GO

[@glenmcinnes4824]

Now do the Baker Rifle Now that would be Soldiering. And let the Sharpe quotes begin!

[@evanridez9659]

loved the People Playground demonstration of the loading process 😂

[@gerardboles1124]

Yall are the reason I am looking at buying a 1851 Navy revolver.

[@skyhisurvivor4724]

Kind of want one tbh

[@rexrodecolt]

Very Cool

[@ubpoperator6649]

Just bought the same ear pro as Israel, was doubting purchase for a bit, but if its good enough for him it’s good enough for me lol

[@schishne7546]

you guys have to try to shoot either one of those gunblades or a freaking Sharps 1848 Rifle

[@snoochyBoochies19888]

Really cool

[@gumilangakbaradyana5728]

That " I'LL BE DAMN" are the best reaction

[@ColonizerChan]

Damn the person explaining this to the spec ops guys is really patient.

[@pixelhistoricalwarriors]

I love matchlocks so much.

[@Mojomrtn]

Amazing video

[@Commander-vf1lk]

Cool! I was hoping it to be the Henry Rifle.

[@thrifikionor7603]

60 grains is really weak, should be at least double that. Also back in the day there were drill manuals that showed how to properly use a musket so the soldiers wouldnt awkwardly fumble around like here, you were even supposed to be able to load it while walking.

[@luuuuk18]

you guys are awsome!

[@SpartanTAP]

"Continue to rebel against your king!" XD hahah

[@chuckgreen3629]

You gotta bring a musket back so they can have a competition to load and fire some rounds as fast as they can.

[@NeoWind]

Cool !

[@joeerickson516]

"Yo ho ho, and a bottle 🍾 of rum!" 🥃 🏴‍☠️ ☠️

[@pyeitme508]

Hell yeah

[@tiptop-4523]

The matchlock musket was also used in the English Civil Wars in the 17th century! But, a interesting video and this is coming from a Brit.

[@christianx8494]

The fork has to be put under the point of gravity closer to the rear end. The left hand holds the fork and the gun rests on it.

[@DaOideRassl]

Why looks Izzy so cool with his plate carrier and glasses combined?

[@Lonewolfmike]

Next I would like to see Japanese matchlocks.

[@RavensEagle]

9:30 think you made a slight error there. 2 to 3 rounds a minute is for flintlock muskets Matchlocks you get 1 shot every 1 and a half minute to 3 minutes Depending ok the calibre

[@marxbruder]

Your buddy's pike is the "give us a minute" stick.

[@joeerickson516]

"Arrgh!" 🏴‍☠️ ☠️ 🥃

[@jonathancathey2334]

I would like to see a Springfield 1861 rifled musket. The rifle of the American Civil War.

[@77niko09]

Was it cameron who didn´t like 50 cal because it´s heavy to carry?? So i would like to see him try south-african 20mm anti-materiel rifle (denel NTW-20) it removable barrel and carrybag, still needs two person to carry. Also of course shooting.

[@Chris09978]

Yes, he hated the .50 because of how concussive it was begin next to it and the weight was also another but mostly cause of the amount of Advils he needed when he was around it. But I have a feeling he won’t mind shooting a 20mm

[@77niko09]

@@Chris09978 I wouldn´t mind to try it my self. I thought to be little stinker and make him carry it from target to shooting place and assemble the gun. Like... starting the film with introduction to gun, near target then walk to shooting place in suitable distance.

[@Artemis-zd2ce]

This is the first one that actually made me concerned for Izzy and Cam.

[@lepmuhangpa]

Now, that is an old musket.

[@Madjo-qj2ge]

Matchlock Musket Clan Shimazu, Otomo, and Oda Favorite Toy

[@maddux1188]

I can’t believe we fought with these.

[@SlickCookie]

Lmao, the first 10 seconds of the video is when Santa gives you the gift you asked for.

[@germanpuszkarsky8124]

The first record of the weapon as such is in Spain, not in Portugal. By the mid-sixteenth century, most Western European countries already possessed it.

[@joeerickson516]

" 🍻 Drink and the devil 👿 will done the rest!" "Yo ho ho, and a bottle 🍾 of rum!" 🥃🏴‍☠️ ☠️

[@Hokageflames]

Crazy how thing developed over the years

[@LeDiamondDog]

Nice vid from France 🇫🇷😎

[@fenrisfafnesbane7988]

I would love to see you guys shot the Swedish AK5 assault rifle.

[@joelmelin8314]

Next time you guys should try out the Colt Patterson revolver.

[@PsychoKinezis913]

Still waiting for Cam and Izzy to dress up as Continental soldiers, speak 1700s and fire a weapon from the Colonial Era.