Indian 4-Shot Repeating Matchlock Toradar

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Forgotten Weapons

Forgotten Weapons

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@londonjolly9174
@londonjolly9174 4 жыл бұрын
"Matchlocks obsolete?! I can be just as fast with my matchlock as you flintlocks, and then I'll take your flintlocks after using my matchlock!" - Some guy in 1800s India, probably.
@diehard2705
@diehard2705 3 жыл бұрын
“JuSt As GooD!”
@sumvs5992
@sumvs5992 3 жыл бұрын
That comment from the bolt guns are obsolete (technically part 2) video is just ridiculous though
@balakishakis6614
@balakishakis6614 3 жыл бұрын
**rope burns out**
@SakutoNoSAI
@SakutoNoSAI 3 жыл бұрын
Thats sounds like my local demographics.
@gunnarkvinlaug9079
@gunnarkvinlaug9079 2 жыл бұрын
Except I had noticed you five minutts before you could shoot, this is not a good stelth weapon!
@shivneet
@shivneet 4 жыл бұрын
Just FYI, muskets are still known as toradars today. At least where I am, North India. Some are still in use in smaller/ remote villages, mostly for crop protection.
@Ass_of_Amalek
@Ass_of_Amalek 8 ай бұрын
is there some written or unwritten regulation recognizing muskets as weapons weak enough to be more freely owned? or are those farmers also allowed to own cartridge-firing rifles and shotguns? according to wikipedia, an indian jurisdiction that follows federal gun laws should enforce the requirement of a firearms licence renewed every 5 years for all firearms (and anything self-loading is banned).
@shivneet
@shivneet 8 ай бұрын
​​@@Ass_of_Amalekno, no such regulation. Muskets are treated like any other firearm, not that there are many still in use. One can apply for a gun licence and if you get it (gun ownership isn't really encouraged here) it has to be renewed every 5 years. It is also normally restricted to one state. Semi-autos are not allowed for civilian use, a tiny minority can get licences in case it's been inherited etc.
@chton
@chton 4 жыл бұрын
And if there are 5 enemies, you can club the last one to death with the sheer heft of your mechanism
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 4 жыл бұрын
Did I load 3 or4 ? Do ya feel lucky?
@AxeGaijin
@AxeGaijin 4 жыл бұрын
You probably need all 4 shots just to hit something to start with :)
@notgraham.7215
@notgraham.7215 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds dirty
@CurtHowland
@CurtHowland 4 жыл бұрын
Considering how it's bent, that might very well have been what happened.
@BlackStar2161
@BlackStar2161 4 жыл бұрын
...is that a euphemism?
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 4 жыл бұрын
"Was that 4 jazails with one shot or 1 jazail with 4 shots!?" -A poor redcoat, probably
@Kremit_the_Forg
@Kremit_the_Forg 4 жыл бұрын
It is so wholesome that apparently since the dawn of the firearms-age the phrase "Needs more gun." is a thing.
@thatguybrody4819
@thatguybrody4819 4 жыл бұрын
"use a gun. and if that don't work, use more gun."
@finger1651
@finger1651 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatguybrody4819 and you better hope, not pointed at you.
@grzegorzbrzeczyszykiewic3338
@grzegorzbrzeczyszykiewic3338 3 жыл бұрын
What am I gonna do when some big mean mother hubbers try to tear me a structurally superfluous new behind? The answer, use a gun, and if that don’t work, use more gun. Take for example this heavy caliber tripod designed to me, built by me, and you’d best hope... not pointed at you.
@BigWheel.
@BigWheel. 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'd describe that as wholesome.
@MisterSingh.
@MisterSingh. Жыл бұрын
You have an infants outlook on WORLD history
@elroma7712
@elroma7712 4 жыл бұрын
What I really like of early firearms is feeling that the gunsmith put a chunk of his soul when making them.
@wildward93
@wildward93 4 жыл бұрын
And a chunk of questionably durable iron too. Maybe even multiple chunks if if you were rich and too tacticool for the late 1400s.
@elroma7712
@elroma7712 4 жыл бұрын
@@wildward93 hehe that also helps.
@eyecanon1ywin5
@eyecanon1ywin5 Жыл бұрын
@@wildward93I definitely believe you random internet dweller
@muhamadsayyidabidin3906
@muhamadsayyidabidin3906 4 жыл бұрын
I just wonder about the possibility of matchlock repeating, and several minutes later this video show up. You never disappointed us, Ian
@herosstratos
@herosstratos 4 жыл бұрын
1580: objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/W1984
@onneb90
@onneb90 4 жыл бұрын
You ask and gun Jesus provides.
@strongback6550
@strongback6550 4 жыл бұрын
There's several categories the more common repeaters tended to fall into. Superposed cartridges, meaning you got one barrel, multiple locks and shots loaded one after another. Rotating magazine, meaning your revolvers, pepperboxes and turret loadouts. Harmonica guns, which basically had a metal block for a magazine that inched from left to right till the ammo was spent. And finally quickloaders, which assemble the shot inside the gun from a powder and shot reservoire. All of these work with all forms of musket locks and all these were kinda expensive and finicky.
@tommywilson9836
@tommywilson9836 4 жыл бұрын
They don't call him gun Jesus just because the hair.
@DougShoeBushcraft
@DougShoeBushcraft 4 жыл бұрын
I'm loving the high capacity, assault matchlock! Love these videos!
@Hegde-
@Hegde- 4 жыл бұрын
Wait !! Joe 'sniffin' biden is thinking about banning this because it is high capacity ...lol😂😂🤣🤣
@Hegde-
@Hegde- 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like someone got their reply deleted. KZbin overlord is not liking this assault evil heat seaking bullet firing high capacity powerful rifle 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@Yeah12831
@Yeah12831 4 жыл бұрын
This is a tusken raider favorite
@Mishn0
@Mishn0 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why this thing wasn't included in his "Guns of Star Wars" episode.
@DougShoeBushcraft
@DougShoeBushcraft 4 жыл бұрын
LOL! I think I'm 1/4 Tuscan raider....
@rovingut5171
@rovingut5171 4 жыл бұрын
Boba Fett approves.
@phishtrader7744
@phishtrader7744 4 жыл бұрын
The cycler rifles were based on Afghan jezails, which have the same sort of stock and a very long barrel.
@Dapstart
@Dapstart 4 жыл бұрын
@@DougShoeBushcraft no
@hiltonian_1260
@hiltonian_1260 4 жыл бұрын
“I know what you’re thinking. Did he fire four shots or only three? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But being as this is a . .60 magnum, the most powerful revolving matchlock in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?”
@TheMegaPingasMobile
@TheMegaPingasMobile 4 жыл бұрын
every single video with old firearms that have more than two shots available there's millions of these quotes
@hiltonian_1260
@hiltonian_1260 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMegaPingasMobile Yeah, I know, not original. But I felt I had to, just to keep up the revered KZbin tradition.
@sicknashty3837
@sicknashty3837 4 жыл бұрын
@@hiltonian_1260 you kept up with tradition kudos
@geraldreynolds9650
@geraldreynolds9650 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing how these quotes stick in our minds.Especially considering how long ago "Dirty Harry" was made.
@calvingreene90
@calvingreene90 4 жыл бұрын
@@geraldreynolds9650 It is because Harry knew the gun was empty and was making a bad ass bluff.
@owen1079
@owen1079 4 жыл бұрын
I've been watching this channel for nearly a decade and never really commented. Every time I think I've seen everything, you post something like this, and I learn or see something new about firearms and history. Thank you.
@claptrap4084
@claptrap4084 4 жыл бұрын
I have been watching about as long as you. I got into antique firearms about 11yrs ago, and I can verify every time I saw it all, Gun Jesus puts us in our place. But I'm really happy about today's video, I was wanting a good video on matchlocks for a very long time but this is the first 1 I've seen
@Daniel-Weaver
@Daniel-Weaver 4 жыл бұрын
Check out his other channel. Independent Spirit.
@mmercier0921
@mmercier0921 4 жыл бұрын
Watch Ian long enough, you'll be able to pick up any gun from any era and shoot it.
@gymntonic
@gymntonic 4 жыл бұрын
And the day after it was invented someone was complaining to the Bureau of Opium, Hashish, and Firelocks that this was *obviously* a weapon meant for high volumes of fire and should only be in the hands of the Maharaja's Guard.
@keithallardice6139
@keithallardice6139 4 жыл бұрын
Not just a "Forgotten Weapon" but an "I didn't know it existed Weapon" .... fascinating as always, thanks!
@drbungholebob993
@drbungholebob993 4 жыл бұрын
I always like the early eastern stuff, they tried to revolutionise so quickly and came up with so much weird stuff
@moriskurth628
@moriskurth628 4 жыл бұрын
Just look at the japanese building what are pretty much grenade launchers not long after the Portugese sold them firearms.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 4 жыл бұрын
In Germany such weapons, called ,Drehling' appeared in 1510s/1520s.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 4 жыл бұрын
@@spyczech : The first eurpeans, reaching Japan had been the Portugiese, the Dutch came later. In the 200 years of japanese isolation, only few dutch traders lived on a small island in an japanese Harbor. I know, that the Portugiese sold firearms to Japan, but the Dutch? I don' t know.
@PipMan1101
@PipMan1101 4 жыл бұрын
@@moriskurth628 I heard that the Japanese were also the first to put front and rear sights on their muskets, at any rate, there was a time in the 1600s where there were more firearms in Japan than all of Europe combined.
@MrPanos2000
@MrPanos2000 4 жыл бұрын
@@moriskurth628 Grenade launchers were present in Europe too
@lothbroke
@lothbroke 4 жыл бұрын
I bet the extra long cylinder is to give you a place to hold it without putting your hand in danger.
@charlesphillips4575
@charlesphillips4575 4 жыл бұрын
I also suspect that a deeply seated ball would allow the pressure to drop a bit before the barrel/cylinder gap.
@calvingreene90
@calvingreene90 4 жыл бұрын
It would also give plenty of room for a bunch of wadding, a handful of loose shot, and more wadding to hold it in place.
@borjesvensson8661
@borjesvensson8661 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same thougt. It has always striked me as the obvious solution to the revolver rifle hand placement conundrum, sacrifice weight for saftey
@jamesgirardeau757
@jamesgirardeau757 3 жыл бұрын
It my also have provided some protection against flashover; the charge could be considerably recessed.
@charlesphillips4575
@charlesphillips4575 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgirardeau757 All in all the idea of a long cylinder with the ball seated around 6 inched down inside it seems to be the solution to all the problems of a revolving shoulder arm. 1. The highest part of the pressure curve occurs before the ball gets to the barrel/cylinder gap, reducing gas leakage. 2. The barrel/cylinder gap is ahead of the support hand so escaping gas cannot harm the shooter. 3. Flashover is much less likely because of the reduced leakage and because the charges are well back from the barrel/cylinder gap. Also should it occur the shooter is protected by their hand being behind the barrel/cylinder gap.
@evzenkrabs9380
@evzenkrabs9380 4 жыл бұрын
This looks like a gun from Warhammer Vermintide
@noahboat580
@noahboat580 4 жыл бұрын
No shit i was trying to figure out what that videogame is called until you said it
@evzenkrabs9380
@evzenkrabs9380 4 жыл бұрын
@TripleHerbals YES! 😂
@Suns2392
@Suns2392 4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe skaven jezzail, yes-yes
@CAMSLAYER13
@CAMSLAYER13 4 жыл бұрын
It's almost like they used real life to base their weapons on
@Bob-ni8rg
@Bob-ni8rg 4 жыл бұрын
SIGMAR BLESS THIS SHOT!!
@monkeylee4818
@monkeylee4818 4 жыл бұрын
A matchlock revolving musket? Wow
@DrSid42
@DrSid42 4 жыл бұрын
The gun is clearly bend in the revolving pin part .. that would explain why the sights don't align.
@andreww2098
@andreww2098 4 жыл бұрын
probably a bit of an optical illusion caused by the camera focus, though that said, given how old it is a being little bit out of alignment is probable
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 4 жыл бұрын
I saw that also, wonder if it is the rifle or the way the camera is set up?
@iomeliora9430
@iomeliora9430 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly the comment I was about to write, it does look bent, and a little banged up as well. But the sights look more like wishful thinking than something tried and tested, as well.
@alekpo2000
@alekpo2000 4 жыл бұрын
well its older than crap and also been in the worst conditions of use, being on a poor country i bet they used this untill very recent times
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 4 жыл бұрын
@@iomeliora9430 It's a smoothbore, so it's possible it was used with birdshot mostly (which might explain the large chamber as well). In that case, a front bead is really all you need....
@jdzencelowcz
@jdzencelowcz 2 жыл бұрын
Me: Don't leave me alone with this. Him: Why? Me: 'Cause I got this liiiittle voice in the back of my head, & it's chanting, "range test, range test, range test, range test!". Him: >____> ....'Kay.
@Riazor1370
@Riazor1370 2 жыл бұрын
Since proofing some of pre 1800 revolving guns in FW channel, more of questioning about the Mr. Colt claim that he inspired by ship's rudder wheel.
@TheLobstersoup
@TheLobstersoup 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get any recommendations on your videos any more, even though I'm a longtime subscriber! KZbin is making no difference between "weapon" channels. Yours' should really be called a history channel, too. The shooting/killing aspect is not why I watch videos about these guns. They are simply more interesting and visually appealing than the average gun-nerds tales; sometimes they have a history. Deeply rooted in your own appreciation for those pieces and backed by your incredible knowledge of shooty things past. I'll try to remember coming here to support this channel like before. We need people like Ian on KZbin, and/or YT needs to give creators space for their unbiased opinions. Not on politics, because that would be a desaster, but on anything art-related. And these guns are historical pieces of art for the most part. Even though at one point they probably killed someone, too. You got to see these things separated and look at the aspects involved and interesting to yourself. Noone is a monster for appreciating the beauty of a well-made (historic) firearm, KZbin.
@Saturnus_Ouranos
@Saturnus_Ouranos 4 жыл бұрын
Well said, and may the Stormfather will smile upon you
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 4 жыл бұрын
Why do they call him One Eye? He was trying to get a good cheek weld and sight picture.
@hiltonian_1260
@hiltonian_1260 4 жыл бұрын
I shoot a matchlock and I agree that eye protection is absolutely necessary. The priming powder creates a fireball the size of a grapefruit.
@Hetschoter
@Hetschoter 3 жыл бұрын
In case of jezails, you more or less put your head behind the barrel more than pushing you head foward like with other muskets / rifles. Source: Ian (Afghan Traditional Jezail )
@suddenwall
@suddenwall 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive! It's so innovative for its time. The spring keeping the cylinder lined up is really neat
@xnorcal831x
@xnorcal831x 4 жыл бұрын
The sound of the chambers rotating makes me smile. The sound is unique. I could see a percussion style rifle, bolt or lever action. Then I could imagine this in 45-70,.410 or 12 gauge shotgun in a current style.
@daguard411
@daguard411 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever brought up "a quartermaster's bugle?" I first saw them at Napoleon's tomb, and it took me a while to figure out what it was, but then I remembered that whenever we used non electric fuse for demolition, step one was cutting off the first foot of the fuse, then measuring three feet for a segment when cut off we would light it and time it to make sure it wasn't contaminated. Quartermasters would take these bugle devices, they basically look like twisted metal straws, pour in a portion of black powder, then light it to make sure it was worth buying or worth taking fom any source.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. It is nice to see our ancestors had a need for more than one shot also.
@Stevarooni
@Stevarooni 4 жыл бұрын
The desires for what you get from firearms hasn't changed much, just what our technology can provide. Ambitious designs from years ago can still provide innovations to be implemented in new guns.
@dreadnought8363
@dreadnought8363 4 жыл бұрын
Humans have always been looking for more DAKKA
@ArkadiBolschek
@ArkadiBolschek 4 жыл бұрын
The need for more dakka is unending.
@dreadnought8363
@dreadnought8363 4 жыл бұрын
Dakka then, Dakka now, Dakka forever
@comiketiger
@comiketiger 4 жыл бұрын
Ingenious design. Love your finds Ian. Thanks much. God bless all here.
@studentofthegr8art
@studentofthegr8art 6 ай бұрын
Naga people in Northeast India still use traditional matchlocks for hunting. They even make gunpowder and ammunition from scratch at home.
@Ratrazor
@Ratrazor 4 жыл бұрын
I think the reason they did such a large chamber like that is so that you put your hand on the chamber when firing and that'll prevent you from getting powder burns from having your hand in front of the chamber or on the barrel in front of the chamber.
@fensoxx
@fensoxx 4 жыл бұрын
They’ve got curved stocks. Curved. Stocks.
@TheHylianBatman
@TheHylianBatman 2 жыл бұрын
That's beautiful. I love the mechanical simplicity of it. It's amazing to think that some guy just invented that.
@the_clawing_chaos
@the_clawing_chaos 4 жыл бұрын
I do love the old style guns.
@zepetv589
@zepetv589 4 жыл бұрын
There's a flintlock-ish equivalent to this from the 1600s in the Lisbon Museum that was made in Portuguese Goa. Looks much higher quality built too.
@martinthompson4707
@martinthompson4707 4 жыл бұрын
What an interesting piece. I really like learning about these earlier repeating weapons.
@zxggwrt
@zxggwrt 4 жыл бұрын
I used to question why clunky early firearms were so attractive then I learned that the motivation to avoid people with long, pointy things is real.
@davidchristensen2970
@davidchristensen2970 4 жыл бұрын
These truly archaic firearms are fascinating. Amazing that they are still around.
@claptrap4084
@claptrap4084 4 жыл бұрын
This gun is open-minded: you line the bead up wherever feels good for you 😂
@bryanlatimer-davies1222
@bryanlatimer-davies1222 4 жыл бұрын
I thought if it was pointing in the right direction you had it made!
@claptrap4084
@claptrap4084 4 жыл бұрын
@@bryanlatimer-davies1222 of course! We are all winners here!
@weswolever7477
@weswolever7477 4 жыл бұрын
It probably opened a few minds at the business end
@mchagnon7
@mchagnon7 3 жыл бұрын
If you hit, the target, you're lining it up right. Just do whatever you did 3 more times.
@jeroylenkins1745
@jeroylenkins1745 4 жыл бұрын
it reminds me a lot of the Belgian wall gun with the length of barrel and size of the charge.
@realhorrorshow8547
@realhorrorshow8547 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's probable. I wouldn't want to carry it far.
@Ni999
@Ni999 4 жыл бұрын
I like the whole thing but I really like the firing mechanism. Thanks, Ian!
@jon9021
@jon9021 4 жыл бұрын
I believe they where still being used by “matchlock men” during the Indian Mutiny in the 1850’s.
@fluffypinkpandas
@fluffypinkpandas Жыл бұрын
matchlocks go down on every trigger pull where flintlocks have to be cocked before every trigger pull. in terms of a revolver mechanism, a matchlock revolver is closer to a double action modern revolver and a flint lock repeater is closer to a single action revolver. so match revvies have one less required motion for that slight bit of extra speed.
@VaguelySynthetic
@VaguelySynthetic 4 жыл бұрын
That thing is pretty fekkin cool. Thanks for bringing this to us, Ian.
@jonminer9891
@jonminer9891 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Ian. I had no idea that matchlocks had a repeating design. Thanks for the enlightenment. Peace! Love! Charity!
@Mario_bland
@Mario_bland 4 жыл бұрын
Saturdays video better be this in a 2 gun match
@dhawthorne1634
@dhawthorne1634 Жыл бұрын
More videos like this, please.
@benm5913
@benm5913 4 жыл бұрын
I love early repeating firearms so much.
@billd.iniowa2263
@billd.iniowa2263 4 жыл бұрын
Love the old stuff. Thanx Ian. I marvel at how they welded parts together just by forge and anvil. How they worked with delicate parts without melting them or bending them out of shape is a mystery to me.
@htral
@htral 4 жыл бұрын
With the large chambers - you can hold the barrel /chamber without having your hand in front of the chambers. Kind of safe incase you have a sympathetic detonation of one or more chambers.
@BeansAndWeens
@BeansAndWeens 4 жыл бұрын
tbh that thing is so big it almost looks like a jezail, but it isn't, but almost is.
@MrJonathandcrow
@MrJonathandcrow 4 жыл бұрын
Great Job Ian !
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ian .
@MikesFoggyIdea
@MikesFoggyIdea 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I love flint locks and match locks. That looks like it would be fun to shoot.
@staleyking
@staleyking 4 жыл бұрын
Such a cool gun. Thanks for another excellent video Ian!
@dazaspc
@dazaspc 4 жыл бұрын
The thing I noticed was the really aggressive carving on the butt stock underneath the cushion pad. I would say it was needed to help keep the barrel up on target, kind of hook into your body. The latter users probably just used a shooting stick and went for comfort.
@Hamsteak
@Hamsteak 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how far firearms have become
@cagedstowgee4991
@cagedstowgee4991 3 жыл бұрын
I love the history of these old matchlock guns
@JimBridgerHarney
@JimBridgerHarney 3 ай бұрын
The back sight is probably a visual confirmation that your cylinder was reasonably precisely aligned. I can imagine that would be important with a hand rotated cylinder metallurgy somewhat short of what we have today.
@yogsothoth915
@yogsothoth915 4 жыл бұрын
When you want to find unique luxury weapons throughout history, India will seldom disappoint.
@yogsothoth915
@yogsothoth915 4 жыл бұрын
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine you should see their swords next... they get pretty wild..
@camrsr5463
@camrsr5463 4 жыл бұрын
No white gloves! FIRED!
@spookisghostly4619
@spookisghostly4619 4 жыл бұрын
I like matchlocks especially of that design they seem like they could be made very accurate especially without the bump of a hammer coming down all of a sudden very interesting
@Zajuts149
@Zajuts149 4 жыл бұрын
One would expect that with the open chambers, some space would be used for wadding to keep the the round and charge secure. The design overall seems to be made for hunting tigers from the back of an elephant.
@probelocksmith1222
@probelocksmith1222 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the tool setup the old timers used to make stuff like that
@MyTv-
@MyTv- 4 жыл бұрын
Some of the coolest strange old weapons comes from India it’s like Bollywood pre Bollywood!
@kevburger
@kevburger 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the reason for the seemingly extra long cylinder is to keep the shooter's hand behind the cylinder gap.
@Starless85
@Starless85 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the magazine tubes on the Tavor shotgun.
@TheTerminatorCarrot
@TheTerminatorCarrot 4 жыл бұрын
32 seconds after uploading. I'll never be this early for anything, ever again.
@mattking69
@mattking69 4 жыл бұрын
Even then you were 32 seconds late. Haha
@TheTerminatorCarrot
@TheTerminatorCarrot 4 жыл бұрын
The difference is I can achieve that again in my lifetime lmao
@History_Coffee
@History_Coffee 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, I didn't know there was repeating match locks.
@rickeymariu1
@rickeymariu1 4 жыл бұрын
The cylinders were so long to probably give a hand hold for the shooter. Otherwise, it would have the same problem as a revolving rifle.
@Janshevik
@Janshevik 3 жыл бұрын
I thought of that too
@ParanoidCarrot
@ParanoidCarrot 3 жыл бұрын
I just love stuff like this
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe that rear sight is supposed to be an error bar. It's a smoothbore designed for varying qualities of powder, your point of impact is going to be somewhere between here... and here.
@JoeWalker98
@JoeWalker98 4 жыл бұрын
Tbf with the simple trigger mech, you'd want it like that for multi shot. To be able to control how far the match goes down towards the pan would make up for it burning between shots. In tbe spring power, youd either have to pull it longer each shot or shoot fast to be able to let off all 4 rounds.
@chellybub
@chellybub 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike Carrick 💜
@Lappmogel
@Lappmogel 4 жыл бұрын
5:03 Well looks like you can load directly into the cylinder so at least you don't need to carry a 40 inches ramrod around.
@steirqwe7956
@steirqwe7956 4 жыл бұрын
It need to be cleaned quite often tho since it runs on low grade black powder. Probably every 8-12 shots or so.
@free_gold4467
@free_gold4467 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video!
@trischas.2809
@trischas.2809 4 жыл бұрын
actually, those should be 2 levers interacting with one another and the spring to "reset" it
@spacewater7
@spacewater7 4 жыл бұрын
Good eye and good mental visualization of the motion of the levers involved. However it has to be more than two. The match is offset to the right and moves downward, and the front of the 'trigger' lever also moves downward so there must either be a third or other mechanical complexity inside.
@trischas.2809
@trischas.2809 4 жыл бұрын
@@spacewater7 It works perfectly fine with 2 levers and one spring: the lever of the trigger is bent to push against the *same* side of the hammer as the match is on, the spring pushes from the chamber facing side. Depending on the geometry of the lever, you get the speed increase one could see in the video. The setup of the two can be seen in this set of sketches: imgur.com/a/NiuIr0Z - I set this up so that a 6.75° trigger pull results in 45° hammer drop.
@spacewater7
@spacewater7 3 жыл бұрын
@@trischas.2809 This could be plausible. Without having an idea of the tension keeping the match from dropping it's difficult to know. There should be enough room in the recesses in the wood to see, if the weapon were to hand.
@thomaswashburn3513
@thomaswashburn3513 4 жыл бұрын
My guess is the reason the cylinder is so long is so the shooter has a safer place to put their non firing hand for support. The cylinder gap gases on that thing are probably not too pleasant to hold anywhere beyond the cylinder. Just a guess though.
@TheHacknor
@TheHacknor 4 жыл бұрын
It just goes to show that people have always been smart enough to come up with creatives systems but have only lacked the technology and resources to pull it off, makes you appreciate what we have today
@dereklangseth9485
@dereklangseth9485 4 жыл бұрын
i think they made the cylinder long so the shooter could hold the cylinder with the off hand while shooting and not risk his hand in the event of a chain fire.
@ironwolfF1
@ironwolfF1 4 жыл бұрын
'Sight picture', on a smooth-bore musket? That's next level optimism right there, kids. Until rifled bores became a thing, the main operational guideline was...Front Towards Enemy. What was old is new again... 😉 That aspect aside, the weapon shows careful thought, and craftsmanship; given the level of 'tech', and industry in India when this weapon was created, it's quite remarkable.
@thomasrouse3826
@thomasrouse3826 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the range video for this one. 😄
@orchard607
@orchard607 4 жыл бұрын
Cylinder could be so long to allow a handhold behind the gap. Rather than for volume for massive charge.
@DL24StaS
@DL24StaS 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say that the cylinder is so overly long to move the gap between its chambers and the barrel as far away from the shooter as possible. Guess it leaked quite a bit of powder gases.
@kahn04
@kahn04 4 жыл бұрын
With regards to the rear sights on the cylinder, I’m wondering if it’s one of those “well the one I saw looked like this” design choices that was just copied because it was there
@accountisnotdeleted1063
@accountisnotdeleted1063 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Samuel Colt invented the revolver! Me: Don’t think so Jimbo!
@Unknown_Planet
@Unknown_Planet 3 жыл бұрын
The first time I see a repeating matchlock gun!
@Pen2penguin
@Pen2penguin 4 жыл бұрын
imo it looks bent at the axis pin, thus why you couldnt see the front sight bead from the rear sight notches
@iirainey
@iirainey 4 жыл бұрын
I would not say that Indian matchlocks were by any means "obsolete" compared to European guns at the time. They made very fine barrels which British officers would often re-stock to fit their preferences. If the match cord is kept dry, matchlocks often outperform flintlocks in high humidity. Priya Satia has done wonderful work on this topic her article "Guns and The British Empire.'" Another point is that the orientation of the match holder has varied in European examples. The earliest matchlocks that had mechanical locks (1470s-1550s) tended to face away from the shooter. It was later in the 16th century that they started to face the opposite direction.
@MrPanos2000
@MrPanos2000 4 жыл бұрын
Of course they were obsolete. There is no debate about this. Their lock time was massive, far more than other systems. The loading was far slower and very dangerous. The native makers of these lands kept making them because they had no means to evolve technologically, not because they had any inherent advantages to modern systems. Makers in neighbouring Afghanistan and Persia started making flint locks or importing them early on, proving that even other people of the region had their wits about them. A reason matchlocks were so common in India was also that British wanted natives to have obsolete armament, unless part of the Angloindian army. Its the equivalent of the modern countries banning modern self loading firearms and only allowing manual repeating ones
@iirainey
@iirainey 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrPanos2000 You are incorrect in multiple ways. Having fired both matchlocks and flintlocks, the ignition speed is about the same. There is a delay in the slowness of the mechanism, but the charge ignites faster due to the burning match. Flintlocks delay due to the time it takes from the sparks produce from the flint to ignite the charge. You are wrong about the Indian subcontinent not having the "means to evolve" they were producing flintlocks themselves and even invented a matchlock/flintlock hybrid. Mysore produced excellent firearms. The British did not "allow" the Indians to keep making firearms. They dismantled Tipu Sultan's arsenals and manufactories after defeating him. The EIC sold thousands of guns to Indian states to discourage them from expanding their arms industry because they were fearful that it could threaten their hold on the subcontinent. Tipu Sultan even returned European firearms he purchased because they were below the standard of those produced in his own arsenals. Look up the article that I referenced above, it has most of this information.
@STB-jh7od
@STB-jh7od 3 жыл бұрын
2:22- if this chain fired, say goodby to your supporting arm.
@MidwestTractionModeler
@MidwestTractionModeler 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the stock was designed to be for keeping the musket steady while turning the chambers. Not too familiar with Indian military tactics of the time period this arm comes from and of they would use any of the western military styles of the same period. I think this is by far the neatest arm showcased on FWs. Thank you Ian for showing us this very unique weapon. Definitely brings a lot of fire power to a fight.
@gemista
@gemista 4 жыл бұрын
The word 'matchlock' didn't register with my mind until I looked at the video itself. What a contraption!
@TheThingInMySink
@TheThingInMySink 3 жыл бұрын
Because a matchlock by itself isn't enough of a safety hazard.
@mmercier0921
@mmercier0921 4 жыл бұрын
What an unusual device. I wouldn't personally dare to load it, nevermind putting a smoldering string near it. Looks like a steel dynamite holder.
@daetslovactmandcarry6999
@daetslovactmandcarry6999 3 жыл бұрын
Just speculating here, but the flatspring holder was probably the rear sight, and over centuries the gun has warped into a misaligned sight.
@cagedstowgee4991
@cagedstowgee4991 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly, it does look like each “chamber” has a tease sight. Who knows
@totalitaer.
@totalitaer. 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the four chambers were constructed so very long to prevent serial fire. It even looks like every one of the champers consist of two parts. Which indicates that someone had this gun reconstructed by lengthening the chambers after a serial fire incident.
@Bigboi69735
@Bigboi69735 2 жыл бұрын
Could we have loaded It from the holes in the breech barrels? That way toradars could shoot like 10 rounds in a minute?
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 4 жыл бұрын
Dang it now I have to build one
@bellakaldera3305
@bellakaldera3305 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, do it!
@Sman7290
@Sman7290 4 жыл бұрын
Some Maharaja's howdah gun for elephant back tiger hunting.
@Nastyswimmer
@Nastyswimmer 4 жыл бұрын
I would guess that the long chambers are to allow the charge to impart as much energy as practicable to the ball before it reaches the junction with the fixed barrel, rather than to hold a large charge. You're inevitably going to lose pressure at the junction - a shorter chamber would mean higher pressure at the junction so greater loss
@trulyinfamous
@trulyinfamous 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy just how long that gun is.
@vilaintrolltrollinsky8007
@vilaintrolltrollinsky8007 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Ian, Willl you make a video about Lefaucheux ?
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