Specialized Epic 8 vs Allied BC40 Part 1 - BC40 Breakdown

[@bicyclestation]

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[@rehview]

Fast becoming a favourite channel. Love the long-form videos. I’d like to see an Epic Evo gen 7 tear down.

[@rubenwesterman]

Can't wait for the Epic 8 breakdown. Have now the previous Epic with brain and really curious to know what the differences are and if upgrading is worth it. The terrain I'm riding is mostly flat (Netherlands) and often have discussing with others that fully's are overkill. Now with the 120mm trend, that discussion is now even more hot. Keep up this kind of video's. Really appreciated.

[@emilioformenti5870]

Can you do a round up review of all the xc bikes you have tried

[@pgn666]

specially with Cervelo ZFS-5 120mm it son crazy sale right now :P

[@walterlippmann4361]

I'm too poor to be watching this content.

[@brucehumphries6889]

For real!!

[@BadWithNames123]

get an orbea oiz

[@robbief1]

If you weren’t, you’d never had stumbled across this, as you’d be too busy out there riding your Epic 8

[@phenofinder9145]

We all are

[@flow2tech]

@@phenofinder9145 i'm not ...but the problem with that is - i have to work more than i get to ride..For most people it's one or the other...

[@shredntread9600]

Love this viseo and you talking through everything. 23.7lbs is pretty sick!!

[@laupe2347]

I literally just serviced my Sram Transmission RD two days ago. I didn't follow any instructions and had to learn about the spring tension the hard way. This video would have saved me so much time!

[@brandonaltbush9889]

My Factor Lando comes stock with ceramic speed everything out of the factory. They've held up great so far. It also has a steer stop built in along with multiple mounting points on the frame and it's Factor's first mtb as well. I built it up the same way you guys do (Rockshox, Sram wireless everything lol) and it's awesome. Y'all should check it out

[@eericc00]

@bicyclestation I'd love for you guys to review a Lauf Seigla with its huge 2.25" clearance, UDH, and sick Grit fork, which Dylan Johnson runs. How they spec it with their price point is incredible...

[@jimc5696]

SUCH an AWESOME video (I have a new BC40 and am considering Flight Attendant). Question: For XC race on not very techy 1:45hr course with plenty of short punch hills... Assuming both bikes are setup with Flight Attendant and light wheels ... what bike would you pick Epic 8 or BC40? BTW - I agree the BC40 feels a little 'big'....I am working on knocking down my bars with a more aggressive drop stem.

[@Highway_95]

I have to be able to fit two large bottles in the triangle. I do too many really long events and hate hydration packs.

[@davewallace9048]

That is a beautifully crafted bike. I really like it!!

[@mfa81]

Slt bearings are a great solution for integrated headset cables on road / gravel bikes

[@maxsmith3335]

I used to do a lot of racing. I got to admire a lot of those fancy $10k bikes as I went around them on my rigid SS. 😂😜

[@flow2tech]

@maxsmith3335 sure , but these new xc bikes allow you to hit bigger drops and gaps that are simply too harsh for a rigid.. my bc40 is built closer to the trail bike realm giving me the best of both worlds up or down.

[@davewallace9048]

When you had the bike completely disassembled, would’ve been a great time to polish the frame. Be surprised how many of the little scratches would come out with a little bit of compound and Elbar grease

[@bicyclestation]

100% agree with this. But I like the scratches lol.

[@Paganiproductions84]

i have some enduro heatset bearing on my oldest xc hardtail and they are still fine

[@bicyclestation]

Nice!

[@brucehumphries6889]

Mach4SL with FA as a comparison as well.

[@bicyclestation]

The Mach 4 is cool. I think it’s for people who love the dw link. I’m not the biggest fan of the dw personally. I always feel like the suspension is too active when I ride them. I do think it’s good, but I’d much prefer a flex stay that also fit two water bottles for my needs.

[@brianrowbotham4010]

I’d love to know which bike you find more stable at speed in chunky and fast trails? I race Cat 1 XC, hoping to bump up to elite in a year or two, but come from enduro and DH and my local trails are legit DH trails and love races like Downieville, ST6, etc. I know these are still XC bikes but I have the new Mach 4 which is great for racing but it feels so sketch at speed thanks to a short-ish reach and small chainstay.

[@CareyLowery]

Love these long form videos. Came across your channel when I was looking for Epic 8 and BC40 reviews, as I am deciding between the two for my next bike. Is a pedal sensor just as reliable as a power meter when considering flight attendant. I need a 30T chain ring and heard that the smallest you can use with the Quarq is a 32.

[@bicyclestation]

Pedal sensor works but isn’t as good as the power. You can run as small of a chainring as you want. Just depends on what meter you go with. Email me at [e-mail] if you wanna get a build going!

[@GHinWI]

@20:17…ya need a slide hammer to take those bearings out

[@johnmoran959]

Is the 100/110 ,100/120 is that a setting on the shock for the rear or a different rear triangle installed?

[@zanekoogler4763]

What bearing extractor/press kit is that? I’ve been looking for one to redo bearings on my bikes for forever and never can find one that seems to do what this one can. I’ve had to settle with sockets and a makeshift press. 😂😂

[@ragethomas]

Also, I find my allied able top tube really wide. I actually put helicopter tape on it so I didn't wear through the paint. How is the top tube on this compared to other xc- downcountry mtbs

[@LowFlyingHawk]

In the comparison I’d like to know which is better suited for non-racers. No plans to race and will be my only mtb, and also want to bike pack. Since I’m not racing, i don’t need flight attendant, so would also curious to hear thoughts on how each bike performs without flight attendant. Where im at there, there are a lot of big climbs and down can be chunky so I gravitate towards light efficient on the up and capable enough for the down (I’m more conservative rider). I’m looking at bc40, epic 8 evo, and transition spur so curious to see how these 2 stack up in

[@flow2tech]

@LowFlyingHawk hey there, i was in your predicament.. I went with the bc40 but built it up more on the dc/trail category .. Built it up with a 130 fox 34 , one up cockpit, specialized ground control 2.4 f/r . Xtr 4 piston brakes.. We are one convergance wheelset ... Honsestly, for my style of riding the thing is an absolute beast. It descends almost as good as my old Yeti sb130 did but is much more nimble and quick on the climbs.. Mine is built up in the 26lb range. Don't think you can go wrong...

[@pgn666]

How those are comparable to Cervelo ZFS-5 120mm travel one?

[@davidmaco1]

what saddle is that ?

[@Doggepp]

Jesse! Do you have a link to that bearing press/puller set you bought?

[@Paganiproductions84]

i can fit some water bottles on both my orbea xc hardtails

[@ragethomas]

Can you talk about the allied medium fit to a trek m/L fit? I run a allied medium able, which definitely feels bigger than my 54 madone and tarmac.

[@bicyclestation]

I like trek m/l bikes but they don’t make a comparable XC bike so it’s kinda hard to put on paper. The super caliber is super aggressive in every size for example

[@bicyclestation]

I also ride a medium able

[@lynngraycom]

Great bike and loved my own FA upgrade from BicycleStation. Sorry to see the modern geometry of this great bike being subverted. You’re obviously riding a frame that’s too small for you… would be much better on a large with a shorter stem and less saddle setback.

[@bicyclestation]

What would be better about it exactly? The large BC40 is significantly bigger. Basically the only improvement would be the reach. The stack is huge and the seat tube is also 3cm taller.

[@HasanMamunVlog]

Great 🎉🎉🎉

[@ethangheen]

do you have the ability to test either of these bikes against a yeti ASR?

[@brucehumphries6889]

Read my mind

[@bicyclestation]

I wanted to buy an ASR for this exact purpose. Yeti was kinda confused by our shop, but still let us open an account. It had a ton of limitations. Basically if we can’t ship a bike to a customer that’s a deal breaker. Yeti wouldn’t let us ship anything because they wanted to protect their dealer network. This was super hypocritical in my view because competitive cyclist and jenson sell yeti… The bike looks great though. The only negative thing I see is its wide cranks only. This is a miss on an XC race bike in my book.

[@brucehumphries6889]

@ Thanks for that, points me back toward Arkansas!!

[@jandeclercq7535]

@@bicyclestation I saw a post by Geoff Kabush that he mounts a 168mm XTR crank

[@laupe2347]

Why dou you run a 0mm offset chainring, doesn't that ruin the chainline ?

[@bicyclestation]

If you run the 168 Q factor it requires a 0 offset

[@laupe2347]

@@bicyclestation Ok, thanks. Any reason you run the 168 cranks ?

[@bicyclestation]

The 174mm ones hurt my hips

[@laupe2347]

@@bicyclestation Interesting, never heard that before!

[@jakescheck]

Normalize imperfect valve stem alignment

[@troyhamiltonwhite]

How tall are you? Trying to understand your fit. Thx

[@bicyclestation]

5 11 31 inseam 6ft wingspan

[@NDO6]

What handlebars do you use?

[@bicyclestation]

Truvativ atmos flat Honestly my favorite bar ever. I use it on every bike

[@coralsaddiction4598]

First 👍🏻

[@brucehumphries6889]

I love y’all’s videos, but the wait time on this particular comparison is getting long in the tooth.

[@Borokiro]

I used to be interested in this until I got a Revel Ranger, miles ahead.

[@bicyclestation]

In what way? Not saying the ranger is bad but off the bat Its pounds heavier. What’s better about it

[@carlosmcintyre3639]

I sold my Revel Ranger when I got my BC40 and much prefer the Allied. It’s much lighter, pedals far more efficiently, and doesn’t feel as unsettled in steep, chunky terrain; although that last one may be due to Fox suspension vs Rock Shox. The only area that I felt that Ranger excelled over the BC40 was on technical climbs where the rear wheel seemed to maintain better traction. I rarely race, but to me the BC40 is still a more fun bike to ride overall. If I were a racer, there would be no comparison: the BC40 is just way faster. Just my $.02.

[@skinny8019]

@@bicyclestation revel ranger medium frame with fox shock is 6.1 lbs....i have a ranger...was curious to try a BC40....would love more info though.

[@bicyclestation]

The allied frame is 4lbs

[@skinny8019]

@@carlosmcintyre3639 how would you compare the difference in geometry? Is the BC40 as plush as ranger out back?