This is China's Most Wanted Cult Leader

[@spectacles-dm]

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[@ultimategamer876]

Great way to plug. Freedom of information to the People of China!

[@Austine1452]

​@@ultimategamer876🙄🙄🙄

[@abhikanur9606]

can you make one video on india

[@yarrlegap6940]

Epoch Times is a far-right rag?! ... That's a bit rich. ;-)

[@maihuy7180]

Hello everyone, you may not believe it, but the self-immolation incident mentioned on the video was staged by the Chinese Communist Party. As soon as the self-immolation incident took place, the Chinese Communist Party government repeatedly broadcast the video of the self-immolation on China's main media channels. They show it over and over again on TV with regular frequency for several months, even years. Why does the Chinese Communist Party do that? Isn't that slandering Falun Gong? Not only that, the Chinese Communist Party has spent nearly 1/3 of the total amount of money from the national budget just to persecute Falun Gong. While Falun Gong practitioners are people who live according to the standards of Truthfulness, Compassion, and Forbearance, do not sabotage national security, and obey the law, they are taught to be good people and better. Because they are People who value human life more than anything, so self-immolation is not possible, so this is an arrangement by the Chinese Communist Party. Since 1999, the Chinese Communist Party government has devoted all its resources to persecuting Falun Gong. Falun Gong practitioners are innocent people, they were kidnapped without reason into forced labor camps, they were brutally beaten, starved, and the Chinese Communist Party government even robbed them of their internal organs. organs of Falun Gong practitioners while they were still alive to gain illegal profits. The organ transplant industry in China is quite developed, because they have a large number of organs obtained from organ harvesting, when you come to China for the purpose of organ transplant, they can respond. Meet that need within a period of just a few days or even a few hours. The persecution of Falun Gong practitioners continues from 1999 to today. This brutal persecution must end. If you listen to the propaganda of the Chinese Communist Party Government. You are an accomplice of that devil. People can go online and print "The Persecution of Falun Gong Practitioners" and you can find a lot of specific and accurate evidence. Hope you can choose to follow what is honest and good to avoid becoming evil

[@williambrasky3891]

One minimal criticism, China may not be very religious, but that doesn't mean the ppl there aren't superstitious. They are super, super superstitious.

[@scottstiefel2061]

When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer

[@ultracapitalistutopia3550]

Depends how remote you live from large cities and how old you are. The most common "superstition" still practiced by modern Chinese people is praying to your deceased family members for your family's prosperity and safety.

[@zg_rq]

Our whole society is superstitious. Like my mom.

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

The official statistics paint China as mostly Atheist, but it seems in practice there are many more Christians, possibly more Muslims, and way, way more ancestor worshippers than the statistics suggest, especially in rural areas.

[@smokedbeefandcheese4144]

@@scottstiefel2061 everyone dose this I don’t Understand how my computer works but it does

[@charlesbrain6220]

Li Hongzhi & L. Ron Hubbard could have been best friends

[@spectacles-dm]

should have*

[@infomatters.]

@@spectacles-dm would have

[@unexpected2475]

Falun Gong is basically China's answer to Scientology yeah

[@PKVeteran]

That is shallow. Falun has trainings, you can practice kung fu and actually be healthier. Scientology just has lots of labor.

[@marcospisanis739]

Even Reverend Moon has a lot of comparison to Li too.

[@Huggbees]

Damn dude the level of production on display here is mesmerizing. Keep it up

[@spectacles-dm]

Woah! Love your stuff man! Been watching for years. Honored by the comment. Thank you!

[@J_Stronsky]

The fight between Falun Gong and the CCP reminds me that life doesn't have 'good guys' & 'bad guys' and sometimes everyone in a story can be a POS

[@koharumi1]

Pos?

[@TheTomatoHater]

@@koharumi1 abbreviation for "piece of shit"

[@Jreg2]

@@koharumi1 its short for Piece of Shit

[@samuelpalmer3855]

@@koharumi1 It means "Piece of Shit"

[@notu13man63]

@@koharumi1 It means "piece of shit"

[@phank.s.4052]

Anyone who has been to China would know that they are not "atheistic." Most people believe in some spiritual things and follow traditions of local folk religions.

[@cadenibz]

The government of china is atheistic. And practices state atheism! That is what he meant!

[@aster.ækes]

They can enjoy their spirituality because they have such low tolerance for bullsh**

[@420MEMES1]

@@cadenibzliterally some people are too stupid to realize this apparently

[@TheZachary86]

@@cadenibzthis is a concept made up by IGNORANT religious people. China is secular. Meaning religion has no business in government affairs. CPC do not make declarations about atheism.

[@odinfromcentr2]

Doesn't change the party ideology of state atheism.

[@egg9033]

Set a timer from now till Hasan or xQc steals this video.

[@BorderOllie]

weird way to spell Jinx lol /s

[@egg9033]

@@BorderOllie I hope it doesn't happen. I was just trying to say the video shows effort and dedication, unlike react content.

[@Civman-yr8lb]

Wish I had the link to that clip where Hasan backtracks on the Uighur genocide. Disgusting little maggot.

[@PerryKobalt]

​@@egg9033they'll get away with it

[@karlw7847]

Gaming chair reacts

[@Shaneyesss]

Holy shit this video brought back so many memories for me. I grew up in China and I vaguely remember this incident in the news. And I was horrified to see graphic bodies on the paper itself. I was only 7-8 at the time but I still remember how shocked I was.

[@zg_rq]

grewing up outside China I saw Falun Gong's video about this first. They claimed that it was staged by the government because of some "suspicious" points in the reports. But then I read the original Chinese reports and found that those details or footages were misinterpreted by Falun Gong. Now, I feel that their lies still hold for their practitioners. However, once Li Hongzhi passes away, Falun Gong will definitely collapse, because he's considered the Creator. At that time, many people would probably betray Li Hongzhi

[@nicholasmclaughlin8638]

It was a staged for TV, it’s a hoax to justify and escalate the persecution of Falun Gong, there are alot of things that can’t be explained, such as why police were carrying 8kg fire extinguisher, which they never do, unless they are planning to put out a fire. The CCP are the ultimate deceivers, it was made for the shock factor, but those who know the CCP history know that it was a fake.

[@user-dc5ku9co1l]

Falun Dafa is not religious, Falun Dafa is a cultivation method. Hoping you guys can realize and have a right view about Falun Dafa

[@maljamin]

​@@user-dc5ku9co1lnobody said anything about that... so why speak non sequitir?

[@IhavenoarmsbutImustGOON-n6e]

@@maljamin Because that's a falun gong cult member. Notice how they call it Dafa?

[@michaelsilver253]

Watching the Epoch Times go from a purely nutjob cartoon publication to something anyone looked at as credible has been nausea inducing

[@HondaSquid]

I've seen the articles when delivering it to people's homes and thought "what is this ridiculous garbage". It all makes sense now.

[@herberttlbd]

I don't think it is any coincidence that the Epoch Time, Shen Yun, and NTD seemed to ramp up their output after they started collaborating with Steve Bannon.

[@AquaticIdealist]

The biggest problem is getting reliable information out of China. When the Epoch Times is calling a covid outbreak in Northeast China over a month before the CPC admits it, it is a very troubling situation

[@herberttlbd]

​@@AquaticIdealist​It was clear to casual followers of Chinese media that something was happening in early January. I'm on the other side of the world and my first order of face masks was on the 13th of January. It wasn't an official announcement but everybody with a passing familiarity of China could read between the lines when they cancelled the Lunar New Year celebration on the 23rd.

[@Storymaker1316]

@nicholastime1513 a hard language to learn if you don’t have an oriental language background

[@coolsonic8982]

I live in Paris and when I learned that the ppl behind Shen Yu were in a sect I was baffled. I see their posters every day in the metro

[@Mrwhomeyou]

Shen Yu is like 80% C/B-level dancer so at least the dancing is nice. The other 20% is lmao

[@IhavenoarmsbutImustGOON-n6e]

They have a lot of KZbin Channel's too. "China Uncensored" for example, "OffTheGreatWall", though it is mostly dead nowadays, but surviving members like Mike Chen (Food KZbinr) are still pushing it to this day.

[@danielforrest2952]

@@IhavenoarmsbutImustGOON-n6eI thought that china uncensored channel was a bit fishy I’m no fan of the ccp but yeah something about that channel bothers me

[@IhavenoarmsbutImustGOON-n6e]

@@danielforrest2952 If you learned about the Chinese government instead of just taking what the western propaganda says at face value, I think you will find that the CCP is no worst then any modern western government.

[@williambrasky3891]

It truly is remarkable how influential Falun Gong's media operation has become, especially on English language reporting on China. It is almost impossible to find Western China coverage that hasn't been tainted by their dubious propaganda. Would love to see a deep dive into their media empire that highlights a few of their most successful disinformation campaigns/ enduring misconceptions linking back to their "reporting." BTW, really appreciate your covering this topic. Too few ppl are aware of Falun Gong's existence, much less their media presence. With tensions between China & the West on the rise, accurate reporting is more important than ever. It's a bit scary knowing this and seeing a lot of their propaganda repeated word for word from sitting US senators and the like. And while it mostly comes from the Right, it's not unusual to hear stories they've "reported" on the more moderate side of the isle. I'm afraid it has already become a serious problem. We've just yet to realize it. It's the next "Russian disinformation operation." Except this time the magnitude of the problem is, if anything, underestimated.

[@antlerman7644]

Well said

[@KL-un8sf]

Lmao yeah they believe some dumb shit but their persecution by the ccp was very suspicious and honestly there’s no real need to lie about the ccps rhetoric or actions. We know they lie about their stats, everyone including neutral countries know this, there is widespread persecution of dissenting opinions, everyone acknowledges this and their foreign ministry is always sabre rattling you can literally find this on official channels. The apologism here reeks of tankie.

[@PKVeteran]

Does it sound and look like a color revolution? Maybe it is

[@GTFO_0]

​@@Musa03nchina Unsensored goes brrbtr

[@williambrasky3891]

@@user-dc5ku9co1l We do. It’s a dangerous cult. It is cruel. It is dishonest. It is exploitative. It brings nothing but harm into the world, takes nothing bad out of it, and serves to enrich a select few. And since we’re hoping, I hope all of you stop trying to convert people and start trying to convert the poop from my butt into new poop, from your butt.

[@537monster]

I’d just like to note that lighting yourself on fire has a tendency to backfire every time.

[@johnalexander9288]

The monk in Vietnam self-immolation had real world benefits for the nationalists.

[@Thot_Patrol_USA]

i do believe i am on fire 🔥

[@openthinker6562]

@@johnalexander9288I’m sure he was making a pun with the word “backFIRE”

[@NeostormXLMAX]

this isn't true at all, it depends on the place the reason and the organization, here li just didn't give a shit, the whole movement was sponsored by the cia and bush had china in great relationships during his war on terror, thus bush wanted better relationships with china during the 2001 era after 9/11 so he shut li down on this

[@zg_rq]

@@NeostormXLMAX Where did you get that information? Is this speculation?

[@brucecurtis6910]

I’ve seen 4 ads for Shen Yun while watching this. It’s ridiculous

[@wowokgone4319]

Now i understands why in Beijing Subway they always check any bottles with fluid inside.

[@Pyro-Moloch]

I remember watching China Uncensored and NTD TV youtube channels, which I soon realized were propaganda. Those guys were also hard advocates for Falun Gong. I think they're still popular channels.

[@sergeantjoe6802]

I watch China Uncensored but not peruse NTD nor Epoch Times. When China Uncensored do mention falun gong, I take them as a grain of salt except for the repression which did happen. Otherwise CU's content is satirical and truthful about the CCP.

[@Pyro-Moloch]

​@@sergeantjoe6802 I could hardly call any propaganda truthful. For example, they repeatedly say that the reason for China's invention of the Simplified characters was to make the old texts unreadable, which is just utter nonsense. They talk shit about anything Chinese. They called Hero (the 2002 movie) a propaganda of authoritarianism and imperialism, which is just the dumbest take. And in general, when they report "truthful" events, they deprive them of all context. They make it look like China is the worst country on the planet, which is far from truth. I'm not a tankie, I don't simp for the CCP, but calling them worse than America, Russia, Israel, France, etc. shows complete ignorance of world politics. Is China good? Ofc not! But is it as bad as China Uncensored makes it out to be? Hell no!

[@GTFO_0]

​@@sergeantjoe6802what can we expect from westerners that literally take anything demonisung and Mocking china even tho they know it is funded vy cult and such but😂😂China bad content gets so much Love specially in YT ...not in reddit and Other Social media where people use brains 😂

[@vcqrsfdwc1987]

@@sergeantjoe6802 “satirical and truthful” meh typical westoid

[@salakasto]

@@sergeantjoe6802 Chris Chappel is a literal mouthpiece for Falun Gong. I used to watch him a lot until I realized that in his eyes, nothing good ever happens in China if the CCP is involved, including its incredible economic growth, which he constantly says is greatly exaggerated or just a flat out lie.

[@neoxyte]

You are absolutely one of the best new rising KZbinrs. Great content. Please dont ever sacrifice quality. Its getting harder to find high quallity and original long-form content on this platform.

[@DamianYoko]

love the format, editing and sound design. really pro-tier.

[@azazel166]

The human body is so perfect that your own immune system attacks your brain if it spots a teratoma with brain tissue.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

What is a teratoma

[@azazel166]

@@goldenfiberwheat238 Cancerous tumor containing cells from various parts of the body, it can grow hair, teeth and even eyes. They form in the ovaries and testes. Search it up if you can handle the hideousness.

[@Austine1452]

@@goldenfiberwheat238 I think a cancerous cell

[@cadenibz]

Cool fact though I imagine everyone knows that the immune system fights cancer 😭

[@thepbrit]

@@cadenibz The point I believe they are making is that our immune system is flawed enough that when it observes any cancerous brain tissue it's attacks are so indiscriminate that it attacks much of the healthy parts of the brain too. Our bodies are amazingly complex and can do incredible things, but they can also be very very stupid.

[@geeljire9247]

How can someone disown his own martyrs 🤦🏾‍♂, i feel bad for the people willing to die for a cause, choosing the wrong one.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

Because Chinese people have zero empathy for others, and none for animals. The are droids that pursue only money.

[@zg_rq]

Because they will face more blacklash is they openly supported that way. And falun gong didn't only disown them, it claimed that they were government actors, armymen, prisoners, former falun gong practitioners, etc.

[@qwopiretyu]

Never put your life on the line for an idea. Even a good one. All life is worth more.

[@geeljire9247]

@@qwopiretyu It depends on the context doesn't it? most people have something they think is worth more than their own life.

[@geeljire9247]

@@zg_rqIf people died for my sake, i wouldn't care about backlash. Idk, i feel it's dishonourable to throw them under the bus, even if there are pragmatic reasons to do so.

[@devcloutier]

Getting a Shen Yun ad while watching this video… hilarious.

[@korakys]

There are a lot of these "New Religious Movements" as they call them in Japan that sprung up in East Asia around the same time. They are all very similar in operation, except in democracies they seem to get away with it fairly easily. I was hoping this video was actually going to be about the Tibetans who set themselves on fire in China in protest, that's a very underexposed story. Sources would of course be a challenge, I'm not really sure of the magnitude of it but maybe a 100 have done this so far.

[@-haclong2366]

The reason that South Vietnamese monk was successful is because South Vietnam was a democracy with free press and free speech, Mainland China is an authoritarian dictatorship so martyrdom doesn't work as all the media will put a spin on it.

[@cuixue-rs3mi]

Yes, esp the Eastern Lightning aka The church of Almight God. They disguised themselves as Christian grps but they are actually a cult operate in the same way as Falun Gong. Any groups that encourage their followers to worship its founder/ human being is a satanic cult. CCP is evil, these cults are just the same.

[@williamheyen3548]

This group was in my local towns 4th of July parade. I didn’t even realize they were a cult. They marketed themselves as a community movement to preserve Chinese culture. Kinda wild in retrospect.

[@AgustinLozada]

The China version of Moonies

[@nixen3141]

The Chinese Version of Aum Shirinkyo

[@noahwhitesell6956]

just saw the SY without knowing what it was....Holy moly, they outright say the things in the video. Its insane. I was literally sitting in the theatre thinking wow I'm watching a cult with really good dancers.

[@naomi5418]

So if Scientology and heaven’s gate had a baby… it’s Falungong?

[@thenormalberries6767]

I do not agree with being on fire

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

Pretty much all Buddhists in the east consider homosexuality to be sinful, opposition to interracial marriage however, is unusual.

[@raquetdude]

The modern medicine, the aliens, the far right conspiracy theorist news paper that backs Trump… whole thing is so strange. He openly called for gays to be annihilated… Buddhists don’t like them ik but they don’t call for their destruction

[@artugert]

If you knew very many Falun Gong practitioners, you would laugh at the idea that they oppose interracial marriage. Interracial marriage is extremely common among Falun Gong practitioners!

[@zg_rq]

@@artugertYou are right. There is a lot of fake news about this topic. Americans have applied their electoral prejudice to Falun Gong, and have ignored what it really is.

[@zg_rq]

@@artugert Yes. Many Falun Gong practitioners are in interracial couples. Westerner activists who don't understand a lot about its beliefs made this false interpretation.

[@nicholasmclaughlin8638]

@@zg_rq Westerner activists ? What are you talking about?, The Falun Gong teachings are all translated into many different languages, totally understandable.

[@raphaeldagamer]

What are you talking about? Nothing of note ever happened in Tiananmen Square. Particularly not on July 4, 1989.

[@hmmmhmmm6917]

Yeah thats right, the deaths didnt occur at the square. It happened outside with 200 deaths, of which 23 were students

[@odinfromcentr2]

Well played.

[@raphaeldagamer]

@@hmmmhmmm6917 ah, a classic "Hitler wasn't German" technicality.

[@nathanpangilinan4397]

Adding to the conclusion that you made, one could make an argument that the CCP being efficient at either crushing or co-opting potential sources of dissent against the regime has created a situation where most opposition to the regime, outside of intellectuals grumbling in their residences in exile, is done by people who are in some way insane or out there ideologically with Falun Gong being part of this broader trend.

[@zg_rq]

Yes, the Chinese Democracy Movement is a small group with a lot of scandals. The other political opponents are separatists and religious groups.

[@nathanpangilinan4397]

@@zg_rq, or outright neo-fascists in the case of Guo Wengui and whatever Liu Zhongjing advocates.

[@hemanthnair1290]

It's the cycle of repression. Crack down > opposition becomes more radicalized> use their extremism as justification for even more repression

[@zg_rq]

@@hemanthnair1290 The good thing is that most believers of Falun Gong in China have abandoned it.

[@后宫后]

There is no difference between Taiwanese and Hong Kong people and some Chinese who have failed in life, they are just jealous and want to show superiority in front of Chinese people🤷‍♂️

[@afterhourscinema782]

The biggest irony is while watching this video, I got a propaganda-I mean...an ad from 'The Epoch Times' 🤣

[@GTFO_0]

More Like China Unsensored guy.. Wait till he calls out this dude and says he is backed by china

[@Gtrip420]

How are they still allowed to have news outlets here in the US FFS 💀🤦🔥⚰️

[@odinfromcentr2]

​@@Gtrip420This is one of those rare cases where something mentioned online actually _does_ fall under the First Amendment. Unfortunately, bullshit isn't exempted from protection - if it were, there wouldn't be any politicians without lengthy criminal records 🤣.

[@blanker1014]

I just discovered your videos like a week ago with your video on Taiwan’s democratization and I’ve been watching the new videos ever since. I appreciate the research and nuance you put into them. It’s a shame you don’t have more subscribers!

[@tlowe9796]

"The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity" - Carlo M. Cipolla Law 1: Everyone always and inevitably underestimates the number of stupid people in circulation. Law 2: The probability that a person is stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person. Law 3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or group of people when he or she does not benefit and may even suffer losses. Law 4: Non-stupid people always underestimate the destructive power of stupid individuals. Law 5: A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.

[@jamarswope2341]

Perfect, been waiting on this since I found Part 1 and binged all your vids in that one day!

[@henrimourant9855]

I literally got an ad from the Epoch Times while watching this video. Kinda surreal. Anyways excellent video. Your two videos on the topic are the best I have seen so far.

[@henrimourant9855]

​@@bogdanov2395They literally are dude

[@ultracapitalistutopia3550]

@@bogdanov2395 If their undying support of trump isn't obvious enough.

[@olivierlisha]

the immolation and lot of things was orchestred by the chinese regime here the true on the staged immolation

[@troygaspard6732]

A far cry from the Buddhist monks of Vietnam.

[@ecocodex4431]

9:16 Someone needs to make a video looking at the history of this specific overlyused piece of royalty-free music

[@seandawson5899]

The sound of crackling fire in the background made this into a horror video.

[@philipmateo3816]

Gosh you are so underrated! Such high production value I expected to look at your subs and find it at least as popular as PBS or some other established channel like that, I really do hope people will find this gem of a channel!

[@TheCreditShifu]

What is the source of the quote "set yourself on fire" in the thumbnail? Looks like a fake quote to me.

[@zg_rq]

Hello, I think you are one of the Falun Dafa media people, so you probably know that this quote isn't true. This video has too much sensationalism. The reason for self-immolation is more complex, and Li Hongzhi didn't intentionally say anything like this.

[@TheCreditShifu]

Right, so it is a fake quote

[@zg_rq]

@@TheCreditShifu Yeah.

[@johnjones99124]

who is the teacher of li honzi

[@willhebert576]

Great follow up video!!! Hopefully this blows up. And congrats on learning to blink :)

[@spectacles-dm]

took a lot of practice, but can't believe I never tried it til now. my eyes feel great 🥲

[@dragemort1972]

Yo this video is really high quality, keep it up! Im sure it'll blow up soon.

[@gzell5556]

i still have no clue how this channel only has 42k subs, this production quality is of a channel over 100x its size

[@fortnitebad1077]

1:51 like they just don’t care

[@BorderOllie]

Amazing job guys. Sometimes I forget how small this channel is. It won't stay that way for long, I promise you that. Please keep making this amazing, important content. We need it. ❤ Also, props for bracing many of these comments.. I think I would go nuts within a few seconds, and I kinda am already. People are ridiculous.

[@koharumi1]

7:28 oh so that is where Shen Yun is from!!! It is always during winter that it is shown.

[@zg_rq]

The purpose of Shen Yun is to attract and convert more people to Falun Gong. The Falun Gong practitioners believe that they are saving people before the end of the world.

[@ROBLOXGamingDavid]

When I first saw Falun Gong (via a KZbin advertisement years before) I had thought they were fighting against Chinese censorship, but now, I do not know what to be afraid of anymore, but they both gave me some bit of interest, thanks to this two-part video about Falun Gong.

[@DinoCism]

I wish our governments took as firm a stance on cults as China does. They cynically use "freedom of religion" to ruin lives for profit.

[@johnjones99124]

does it work falun gong thing for mental health

[@miniak2708]

@@johnjones99124 nope, theyre a cult

[@johnjones99124]

@@miniak2708 I don't care if it's cult or not unless I get mental peace

[@DogeickBateman]

@@johnjones99124 Ok slave.

[@symbelex]

Doubt you'll see this but i came across your channel when your Taiwan video appeared on my recommended about a week or 2 ago and have basically been binging your content, can't wait to see more so obviously i subscribed. Keep up the good work!!!

[@brucculi349]

7:06 I'm surprised Philip even has time to make videos with all the girls that must swarm him when he puts on that drip

[@jakethielmann6022]

Like the yellow guy from curious George

[@automaticmattywhack1470]

I just found your channel and watched 5 videos and subscribed. Excellent work! To me, channels like this one are why KZbin should exist. Keep 'em coming!

[@Ash-V]

I had heard of Falun Gong, bur I had no idea they were behind the epoch times

[@chrisbarber2436]

There's an irony in the ad read being wrong since Atlas doesn't work in China.

[@mohamedabdukadir3271]

You deserve million subscribers, continue the great work.

[@Sayuri81554]

The laborer lost his balance and fell because his inner wheel began spinning too quickly. Just reaffirms that ignorance and education alike will latch on to self delusion to fill a void.

[@artugert]

No, nobody on earth believes that. He fell because he lost his balance.

[@BotwanaBoi2011]

I had a shen Yun ad on this vid 😅

[@PeterLiuIsBeast]

One thing to note. The spinning wheel isn't an original concept. It is derived from the Buddhist/Hindu concept to dharma.

[@jakovvodanovic9165]

Still, I primarily blame people who are foolish enough to believe the claptrap.

[@gaviswayze9696]

I respectfully disagree. People who want to extract something (like devotion or money) manipulate people in a way that they know can avoid triggering certain alarm bells in some people's heads. It's a facet of human nature that they take advantage of The same applies to scammers. They know how to hijack certain people's brains and use that to steal their money. Victim-blaming just avoids realizing that the core issue is the manipulation, and that just keeps people thinking that they'd never fall for anything like that. Sad to say, that mentality makes people even more vulnerable to buying BS like Falun Gong or a sob story from a "Nigerian Prince"

[@jakovvodanovic9165]

@@gaviswayze9696 In that case people who easily fall for scams shouldnt be able to freely spend their money or to vote.

[@DogeickBateman]

@@gaviswayze9696 If the cattle made a right turn for the cliff is it the cliff's fault?

[@DogeickBateman]

@@jakovvodanovic9165 The belief of egalitarian equity is a perversion of moral decency, for it put those who are competent, who conduct themselves right and who fight to keep their judgement as clear as possible, mixed up with the essentially, servile beings.

[@low-energypolitics5677]

This is such a dense piece. Thanks for the explanation!

[@Ysucj743]

14:48 it’s really weird hearing the words “Tiananmen Square Incident” and it not meaning the 1989 massacre

[@CarsonSIsaac]

When you get an Epoch Times commercial in the middle of this video…

[@diogeneslantern18]

Your content is so, so good. Extremely polished and interesting.

[@readynowGO]

im sorry. shen yun, the ballet that ive been seeing ads for literally all my life, is run by a cult?????

[@ethans6539]

-“it’ll be linked in the end card” - isn’t linked in end card Nice

[@spookyghostwriter3110]

Ahem. Fire burning Darwin Award achieved.

[@jiachengwu4185]

Gosh, your aloof coldness sends a shrivel down my spine.

[@notjeff7833]

0:20 "pro democracy" couldnt be further from the truth. A dude wupporting policies that would benifit a specific group of people died, and the protest in tiananmen was to mourn his death + make the policies pass in congress. (The outskirts of beijing had the rioters)

[@alejandrobaquero-lima6943]

I used to subscribe to The Epoch Times and my parents saw Shen Yun. Even though I am a conservative, some of the stories published in the paper were just strange and seemed like outright lies/propaganda. Also, I heard from my parents that the play was alright but nothing special. It was actually an unstructured performance. Knowing all of this, I'm glad that I have subscribed only to the WSJ and it seems that my parents have forgotten about the play and anything else related to it for a few years now. Thanks for this insightful video. I should do my own research on this topic.

[@zg_rq]

The main reason why they support conservatives is just because they think conservatives will help them fulfill their apocalyptic spiritual mission. They are like opportunists. In 2016, they supported Xi Jinping (Chinese president) because some believers thought he would allow Falun Gong in China again.

[@ripwednesdayadams]

I love this channel. Just discovered it and I’ve been binging your videos ever since.

[@robotspaceninjas5784]

I've been to their meet-ups, and practiced their techniques. You got quite a few details about their beliefs wrong, but your historical facts are very interesting. I ultimately determined they were not for me but you really make them sound alot more crazy than they are. Their worship of the master is closer to the Buddhist worship of the dallai lamma than it is a typical cult leader. They are not without their wacky beliefs but the core tenant of their holy book is that you alone have the power within you to become better. All humans are sleeping gods. Not once was I ever told I needed to meet the master and could only improve through him. They preached the exercises he developed are all you need to cleanse your soul and in turn improve the quality of your life. Not a single member I met had even met the master before so hes really not as important to the majority of them as you make it out to be here.

[@alindiataylor5348]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences regarding Falun Gong. I read some things which states that Li Hongzhi was pretty much up to no good, I have purchased one of his books, but after some research, I am finding found out some disturbing things about him. However, what I have read in his book thus far - doesn’t spell cult or someone like Hitler. I will continue to read the book.

[@robotspaceninjas5784]

@@alindiataylor5348 There is an awful lot of propaganda from China about them but they don't make any of their beliefs a secret so its always seemed strange to me when people who dont listen to the source claim they know what the source is doing. Its very easy to take some of their wackier beliefs out of context but that doesn't change if their practices have an effect or not. Its certainly worth a read and the exercises are worth trying out if you are at all interested in Qi Gong but at the end of the day its still a modern sect made by a modern man who claims to possess ancient wisdom. They are based on Daoism which is both a religion and medicinal philosophy for longevity. Personally I have found if something has persisted for as long as the original daoist practices have then they must have been preserved for a reason so I looked for the source of all these ideas for my practice. I found anything created in the new age has too much influencing it which leads to all the misunderstandings organizations like FG face in the modern interconnected world. There is a reason the ancient masters isolated themselves on mountains and only ever passed their secrets onto a few disciples at a time. The more people inserting their point of view into something the muddier the truth that cannot be spoken becomes.

[@johnjones99124]

does it work for mental health

[@robotspaceninjas5784]

​@@johnjones99124 To be frank yes and no. If the teachings resonate with you then practicing it will absolutely help you but if it doesnt then you arent going to be addressing the source of your problem. This religion is technically a Daoist sect which is the oldest Chinese religious philosophy on health. To the Daoists, mental and physical health are one and the same. What you experience as thoughts and emotions are actually your various organ systems trying to talk to you and ask for your help. Things like anxiety and depression are your bodies way of telling you something is wrong with either your environment, your diet, or your activity level. If you eat well and exercise regularly but still suffer then you might be getting poisoned by something in your environment like mold or industrial chemicals. If you dont eat well or move well then those are the best areas to start with. Falun Gong in its most simplest form is an exercise program that involves long periods of standing still and doing only breathing exercises. I had mental health issues and struggled to do such simple tasks for long periods of time but I was able to use the Daoist philosophy to solve the source of my mental health issues by cultivating my bodies physical health. I eat only nutrient dense food and as little as I can tolerate. I do very low stress exercise daily with the purpose of improving my mobility and flexibility, and I have spent alot of time and money researching and addressing the poison's in my environment I cant escape from. My advice would be to just study all things associated with Daoism and start learning how to train internal martial arts systems like Bagua and Xing Yi. These have been some of my favorite forms of cultivation exercise. Tai chi is a good place to start too but it got a little boring for me. Just remember dont give up there is a solution to your problems and you are the only one who can uncover it. Good Luck Bro!!!

[@johnjones99124]

thanks for sharing your knowledge . just been 2 weeks since am practicing, hope it works for me ,God blees bro .

[@andrewbrain4821]

Amazing video. Keep up the great work

[@damirk3]

Fulan Gong have similiar beliefes as Aum Shinrikyo. Im deeply scared that those terorrists are allowed to be free and even in my country. Cultism is okay if its against US friends I guess

[@konstantinosnikolakakis8125]

You’ve just earned a subscriber!

[@ecocodex4431]

10:13 I'm gay AND in an interracial relationship. Guess I am an alien now. I suppose that DOES explain my neurodivergencies tho... lol

[@ssnaut1871]

Hot black Gf?

[@os44881616]

Fantastic vid

[@zl4384]

邪教不配宗教自由

[@peterkelly4873]

Seeing another video so soon after the last made my day!

[@spectacles-dm]

Savor it. The next one may take a minute...

[@masterimbecile]

Not to be confused with Fallon gong, Jimmy Fallon’s metallic percussion instrument played using a large mallet.

[@cybersentient4758]

This is the kind of joke Jimmy would reuse a number of times

[@AlexandreAlezzia]

Excellent job. Thanks for posting. You are a genious! I loved this video.

[@PKVeteran]

Uwest, the foundation behind it and the Buddhist faction from Taiwan was also sued for abusing free labor. May be worth another video. In the US they pay teachers. In Taiwan I am not sure. They have temple branches from California to Florida

[@lisi9942]

Bro love your editing style

[@MalaysianChopsticks]

This kind of content makes me think back of Fallout NV. Shows me that no one side is the good guy but shades of grey. No love for the CCP but no love for cults

[@spectacles-dm]

great analogy and great game

[@GTFO_0]

😂If only all Westerners specifically Americans understood these...they literally take everyday Propaganda feed to them by China Unsensored qnd other falun gong cults

[@odinfromcentr2]

Difference in FNV is that there was clearly one option to avoid at all costs and three others that clearly required some thought. In this scenario, they're _both_ the Legion.

[@blairimani]

It would be helpful to link the previous video in the description also 😊

[@BiggieBig_]

Such an underrated channel!!!!

[@GaryPansey]

Falun Gong is qigong exercises, not a cult... no money required to learn....come and go as you please.

[@cadenibz]

What about the aliens lil bro💀💀

[@zg_rq]

False. It has beliefs, organization, and Li Hongzhi warned that disciples would be destroyed layer by layer if they quit their mission of helping him rectifying the Fa. (not the exact words).

[@nicholasmclaughlin8638]

@@zg_rq Not exact words, because Li Hongzhi did not say that

[@zg_rq]

@@nicholasmclaughlin8638 Apologies. I did not find him explicitly saying that the complete extinction of body and soul would happen, but a lot of people believe in that, since leaving Falun Dafa is interference in the salvation of sentient beings. (To be clear, this is only an interpretation by Falun Gong practitioners.) The following quotation has a similar message but it doesn't talk about the extinction of body and soul: "when a being can obtain the Fa today in history, it’s no ordinary thing-he’s so fortunate! But as soon as he loses the Fa, do you know what he faces? It’s really horrific, because when he fails to fulfill the major responsibilities and the huge missions that were bestowed upon him, then, accordingly, that’s like the inverse of a being’s Consummation, and he will truly have to enter the gate of no-life." ("Fa Teaching Given at the 2004 Chicago Fa Conference", Collected Teachings Given Around the World Volume IV) (What happens in the Gate of no life: "But after those who have especially huge sins go to hell they are directly destroyed and sent to the Endless Hell, and once someone enters the gate of no-life he can never live again." (Teachings Given on Lantern Festival Day, 2003)) In the new article "Cultivation in Dafa Is Serious", the contract signed with lives might reinforce the effect of this message.

[@Straight-Talk-About-Falun-Gong]

@@zg_rq Li Hongzhi never said that. Just so you know.

[@LadyGTarot]

Oh falun dafa - it sounds good on the surface but as one looks into the deeper teachings it goes really off into dark areas. The movements draw people and then as they get more involved it gets very strange a bit like scientology. Sounds good on the surface but the deeper one goes into it the more bizzarre it becomes.

[@artugert]

Dark areas? What about Falun Gong could possibly be construed as dark?

[@LadyGTarot]

@@artugert How about it's a cult ! And when you get into the deeper teachings it really goes off into crazy areas. Read the book.

[@artugert]

@@LadyGTarot I'm very familiar with the book. Just curious what you found crazy about it.

[@johnjones99124]

I am new to this been 1 month practicing it just to fight depression anxiety, I don't care its cult or not

[@nicholasmclaughlin8638]

@@johnjones99124 Keep reading and practicing, it is really great, I have been practicing for 18 years, helped my depression and anxiety, which country are you from?

[@champo976]

I drive past a shen yun ballet billboard on my way to work every day and never knew it was connected to falun gong or the epoch times

[@pingasbungus4517]

This Samarianesque graphic design is great. Check out more about Person Of Interest, it's a fantasy shows but some of visuals bear striking resemblence.

[@timothyhilditch]

I disagree a little bit on the framing. I have made my own video on the falun gong. Long story. Why do you call them a cult? The only country that recognises them as such is the Chinese state. Why dont you bring up the allegations of prescutions like organ harvesting? I'm afraid you maybe taking your own opinion of religions and applying it upon a prosecuted group. Would you call Christian Science a cult for example? Similar wackyness but it doesn't mean they should be locked up and "reeducated".

[@BorderOllie]

Mmmm nah yikes

[@jiachengwu4185]

Religious freedom is not without cost. This evil cult is one example.

[@timothyhilditch]

@@jiachengwu4185 How is it evil? 🤔 You can allege that the leader is. But how are the followers evil?

[@bunnyfreakz]

Falun Gong already in FBI watchlist as a potential dangerous cult if you don't know. Technically if Falun Gong doing anything stupid in America, they are gone for real.

[@benckx8999]

8:24 I think it's in Brussels near the European Parliament (where a lot of protests end up)

[@misuvittupaa8068]

Good videos with educational value. You do spaghetti monsters work

[@olivchart7689]

Having met a few of these practitioners myself, I thought they were just super kind and peaceful. I think they should have the freedom to believe whatever they want. For sure the cases of preventable deaths mentioned in this video are horrible... but there has been many other great cases of miracle healings through their practice that should be mentioned too! On the other hand, you have the Chinese Communist Party... putting good people in jail for decades just for their beliefs. It's actually insane to be sentenced for years in prison just because you meditate and try to become a better person! Worse yet, being tortured badly... sometimes to death. And that's not even mentioning the disgusting topic of live organ harvesting... what a horrible government! I can understand why they would so strongly advocate human rights like that.

[@orionbarnes1733]

OH MY GOD, I knew there was something "off" about Shen Yun and The Epoch Times, I couldn't explain why but they had the same feel to them, and I always wondered why TET seemed to hate the CCP so much. Don't get me wrong, it's a dictatorship, and I am 100% against dictatorships, but I always felt like TET was somehow personally insulted by them the way the seemed to pump out accusations, to a suspicious degree. As for Shen Yun, it had that "culty" feel to it, but I couldn't explain why.

[@haldir108]

Seeing the desperate effort to change the title and thumbnail on this video over the last few days has been entertaining.

[@ShankarSivarajan]

Pretty standard religious stuff. It's hypocritical to criticize these teachings as dangerous nonsense while condoning, even tacitly, those of pretty much every other religion/cult in the world.

[@shottytheshotgun]

ok reddit

[@henrimourant9855]

Dude most religions don't tell you don't need modern medicine

[@abrahamcontreras9950]

I don't know how this shit isn't just some nonsense to you, but that's pretty telling of the kind of person you are

[@ultracapitalistutopia3550]

@@henrimourant9855 And many American Christians renounce vaccines altogether.

[@henrimourant9855]

@@ultracapitalistutopia3550 Sure but that's normally not explicitly encouraged by the religious leaders at the major religious institutions.

[@EnverHalilHoxha1917]

Nice stuff hope to see you grow

[@NoMoreCrumbs]

To claim that the CPC "abuses" FG followers by trying to break them out of their mentality is to claim that any attempt to get people out of cults is somehow abusive, ironically exactly the sort of thing cult leaders like to claim. Deprogramming is never a gentle process because totalizing beliefs and conspiratorial thinking are difficult to eliminate once engrained

[@john-ic5pz]

truth. ❤️‍🩹 can't spell culture without "cult". society is a cult too...most just can't see it

[@LowTierGrooby]

While that may be true, the CPC isn't known for being gentle and patient with their dissidents. Not saying you're wrong, you aren't, but there is a kernel of truth to his cultist wank

[@bosunbill9059]

Well, that is why America, the West and the China`s two Neighbours Japan and Korea, have such a lovely assortment of militant or scam cult. US: Mormons Scientology The Weird Indian Capitalist Sex Cult Raj-something the "Down the Rabbit Hole" covered that fled to America and try to poison their political rivals there with Samonella. The Jonestown Moonies or Unification Church A break up Branch of the Moonies that literally worshios the AR-15 Rivals. Mason Fam Australia: Ant Hill Kids Japan: The One that commited Chemical attacked on a Train station Happy Science, a scam cult Unification Church, again, results in the death of Abe and mass Corruption ... Korea The Female Rasputin one that impeached Korea`s first Female President Park Unification Church...for the third time. Well the UC was founded here.

[@ultracapitalistutopia3550]

CCP's cult deprogramming is always questionable, at least you can't expect them to respect basic human rights (in Western liberal sense) of the cultists. That said I insist that Falun Gong is indeed a dangerous cult just as the Moonies in Japan on different aspects and circumstances.

[@Austine1452]

​@@ultracapitalistutopia3550epoch member spotted

[@squiglemcsquigle8414]

KZbin isnt blocked in china lmao. Always find it weird when north americans and euros act like theres no censorship in their own countries.

[@loop6946]

This has to be a parody right? Talking about how the Chinese government tracks everyone, then to go onto a shitty VPN sponsor right after that. You couldn't make this shit up..

[@tychophotiou6962]

Propaganda videos like this are absolutely disgusting in the way they totally invert the truth and twist everything. Falun Gong is simply a set of wonderful exercises like yoga. The founder kindly shared these exercises to the world totally altruistically. Obviously some members are going to put him on a pedestal. But no more than pop fans put their favourite artist on a pedestal. The suicides had nothing to do with the leader. They were done because the demonstrators were so angry that the government were arresting people who simply practiced a few yoga type exercises and then cutting out their organs in the most horrific way (no anaesthetic!) They would sell their organs for great profit.

[@PhuongLe-mz8uh]

Poor you, I can clearly see his intention and aware of someone who claiming himself a “god”.

[@zg_rq]

If it is only yoga, why does Li Hongzhi have to do the Fa-rectification? Why do the three things? Why do practitioners in mainland China sacrifice their lives (upon Li Hongzhi's instigation), and foreign practitioners work underpaid in truth clarification projects?

[@DanielTucker-g6m]

@@zg_rq Please take your time to read through reports in this website which shows forced organ harvesting in China: dafoh.org/articles-and-reports/

[@digitalphoenix72]

If really appreciate sources and citations, because any information provided by any institution will have its own bias. I wont schill for ground, but its a good example of why each and every piece of information, where it was acquired, and what the biases and agendas are of the publications you're referencing, and just some examples of things that were glossed over rather than elaborated. The piece definitely seems to paint the CCP with some very rose to tinted glasses, and omits other very important details that give context and elaborate on just exactly what the CCP did to these people, or the treatment of anyone.who even shed light on what atrocities a lot of these people underwent and continue to do so because they do some whacky meditation and refuse to submit their soul to the state. There's really just a lot more nuance to this than whats stated in the video

[@Straight-Talk-About-Falun-Gong]

Excellent observations!

[@julieeldridge8760]

I went to a Shen Yun performance a couple of years ago. This all makes a lot of sense if you've seen the production - very beautiful, but kind of "cheesy" in a production matter.

[@agramarten]

It is CPC and CCP, basic fact you repeatedly fail to adhere to.