Spectacular Spider Man had the BEST Venom: A BenjiBread Analysis

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@fuzzynuttz5092
@fuzzynuttz5092 3 жыл бұрын
I think what made this venom so special was that it encapsulated the absolute HATRED that Eddie holds towards Spiderman
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 3 жыл бұрын
So relatable
@goon3276
@goon3276 2 жыл бұрын
In his defense, Raimi Eddie was PRAYING IN A CHURCH for God to fucking smite Peter. Thats only really before he gets the symbiote though, after that its just because he likes being bad. It makes him happy.
@storm5ds68
@storm5ds68 2 жыл бұрын
this may sound weird but something I've ways wanted is to have a scene outside of the comics abou Peter and Eddie sitting at a cafe and just... talking for a bit. Talking about the hatred and the anger that tied them together, talking about their reliance on using anger to fight their own problems and how they hope to one day grow past their hatred for each other and past their rage as a whole before they both just walk away. Might sound hella specific but I'm a sucker for enemies having a heart-to-heart, especially when Eddie and Peter's relationship is founded on the concept of both letting go and holding onto resentment and rage.
@giosbizarreart9048
@giosbizarreart9048 Жыл бұрын
@@goon3276yeah but he was just lame
@wesleygriffiths8748
@wesleygriffiths8748 Жыл бұрын
@@storm5ds68Pretty sure that happened fairly recently. When Spider-Man found out Eddie had a kid.
@FullArcher05
@FullArcher05 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite part about Spectacular’s Eddie/Venom is when we see just how far gone Eddie is in the second season. He says and I quote, “I knew if I made you paranoid enough, you’d bring me to the one I love.” in a deep, sinister tone with an expression of pure insanity. This version of Venom is quite terrifying.
@creeper4481
@creeper4481 Жыл бұрын
And then he just straight up looses it after consuming the Gene Cleanser
@OtherDude
@OtherDude 16 күн бұрын
It shows how Eddie really developed an emotional attachment to the symbiote. He couldn't stand being without it.
@Zer0defence
@Zer0defence 3 жыл бұрын
Yea this is an amazing venom. You could say he's "spectacular".
@Zer0defence
@Zer0defence 3 жыл бұрын
@unspeakable Flame 2 thanks dawg
@dilloon7626
@dilloon7626 3 жыл бұрын
Minus skipping leg day
@TheToolBox99
@TheToolBox99 3 жыл бұрын
SPECK TACK YOU LARE SPECK TACK YOU LARE VENOM
@au6769
@au6769 Жыл бұрын
Get off the stage !!
@konarkaron7139
@konarkaron7139 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best Venom is the one from the 90's animated series for multiple reason: -Eddie is being built up as a character from the beginning of Season 1. -His story is impressive especially how they wrap up him becoming Venom in the Alien Costume Story. -He is genuinelly like comic Eddie, whose life went to shit either because of his mistakes or because of being unlucky. -Thanks to that his hatred for Spider-Man doesn't feel strained, from his point of view it's believable. -The Venom episode is the best episode in the whole show. -Venom's personality is top tier, his quotes, how he is toying with Spider-Man, but at the same time he is also terrifying foe. -He is the best villain in the whole show. -He returns and has a villain team-up with Carnage. -He redems himself, also making a big sacrafice in the end, going out as a hero. -Accepting Spider-Man as his partner for the greater cause is his final piece of character development. But Spectacular's Venom is close second.
@chickenstrip_boi6856
@chickenstrip_boi6856 3 жыл бұрын
yeah most of these are some good points. it sucks spectacular spider-man got cancelled cuz maybe we couldve seen some of that here.
@davidteres9463
@davidteres9463 2 жыл бұрын
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@Rodanguirus
@Rodanguirus 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent points! I'm honestly not sure whether I give '90s animated or Spectacular the nod, but the '90s version definitely did a lot for the character...supplanting the comic in many ways. Adding to what Konarkaron listed: -The '90s version streamlines the symbiote's arrival on Earth (so you don't need to explain the entire backstory of Secret Wars like in the 616 version). -You touched on this, but Peter and Eddie both work for the Bugle, and Spidey directly interferes with Brock's reporting/credibility a few times. (It's for heroic reasons, like protecting Curt Connors and his family, but Brock's just trying to do his job and doesn't know that). It makes Brock's grudge against both Peter and Spider-Man more natural. -It was this cartoon that introduced the idea of the symbiote augmenting Spidey's powers, but also bringing out the more aggressive side of his personality. -It has that really awesome dream sequence with the symbiote and traditional Spider-Man suit fighting over Peter. -Venom/the symbiote's scenes in the intro were an amazing hook! This cartoon was my first exposure to Spider-Man, and while much of the intro is appealing, Venom was definitely the thing that made me HAVE to watch it.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 2 жыл бұрын
Both Spectacular and the 90s versions of Veom are awesome.
@justtheguywiththewavecheck6244
@justtheguywiththewavecheck6244 2 жыл бұрын
@@zemox2534 hey bro do you have twitter? I see in most videos and you seem like a cool person
@mysticalarchives7821
@mysticalarchives7821 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, what makes this Eddie work is that he's so Self-Centered and Self-Righteous. He's quick to judge others for actions he disagrees with, but he never tries to talk to others or see things from others' perspectives. He blames everyone around him for problems in his life and isn't interested in communicating with others when he's upset. He just prefers to judge others and pretend that he's always in the right.
@carlosserra689
@carlosserra689 Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right, amigo. Must be because how he was raised. Peter still had his uncle and aunt. Eddie, on the other hand, was all alone after his parents died
@mdtisthebest6249
@mdtisthebest6249 Жыл бұрын
Signs of autism
@rozitasulaiman2923
@rozitasulaiman2923 3 жыл бұрын
the smug eddie at the end is pure meme material.
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 3 жыл бұрын
Angry insane people who are suffering often have the most memeworthy facial expressions. I know from experience
@mystical.forces
@mystical.forces 3 жыл бұрын
This was so entertaining to watch, mostly cause I love Venom but the video itself is amazing. I gotta agree that this is by far the best Eddie Brock!! The music choice killed me at the ending 🤣 the picture too.
@alexanderfoote9929
@alexanderfoote9929 3 жыл бұрын
When the edibles kick in
@joseluissifuentes8639
@joseluissifuentes8639 3 жыл бұрын
If season 3 has happened, Eddie would had a redemption arc, and he would become an ally and fight Kleetus Cassidy who becomes Carnage.
@comicbookreviewer4856
@comicbookreviewer4856 2 жыл бұрын
to me with spectacular spider-man mostly with season 1 Eddie brock downfall was meant to show what peter life could have been if he allowed his Misfortunes and money problems got the better of him showing Peter overcame his problems well Eddie is meant to show what people can be like if they aren't giving help or think what they are doing is right
@thegamingbat2104
@thegamingbat2104 3 жыл бұрын
The scene where venom tries to give gene cleanser to spider man to reveal his identity and make him helpless has to be most savage moment in history of venom's character
@Jackie-McCann
@Jackie-McCann 3 жыл бұрын
“But, the symbiote survived and reached out to Eddie. From there… _it was all over.”_ Not gonna lie, that gave me chills.
@Spaijit
@Spaijit 3 жыл бұрын
This Eddie Brock was one of the few sympathetic versions out there, I like how he started as a good guy, who gradually turned sour. it's also helped shape my own version of Spider-Man's story with Venom. Peter begins to work at the Daily Bugle, which is where he meets Eddie Brock, who shows him the ropes around the place and takes him under his wing, here Brock is an adult whereas Peter is late high school/early college age, and they form a good friendship. but While Eddie is a good guy, he is also a bit arrogant, and at times reckless, which gets him into trouble, which earns Spider-Man pulling him out of it and inadvertently ruining things for him , and Jameson to scold him. He sticks his neck out for Peter which gets him fired, but Peter finds a way to get him back in. its a constant cycle of humiliation, getting fired and rehired. Things sour between them and Eddie's life gradually falls apart. things worsen when the black suit comes along, and that makes him falsify evidence against Spider-Man in desperation, which Peter (Influenced by the Symbiote) exposes in a very cold way, that is Eddie's breaking point, he goes to a cathedral to attempt to end it all but ultimately doesn't go through with it. He prays for forgiveness and that's when the Spider-Man separates from the black suit, the symbiote goes to Eddie, they bond, and Venom emerges, from there Venom begins to destroy Spider-Man's life and break him, just as his life was.
@lordkiwiz1535
@lordkiwiz1535 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty Similiar to Spider-Man 3 script
@Spaijit
@Spaijit 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordkiwiz1535 cause thats how it was in the comics
@lordkiwiz1535
@lordkiwiz1535 3 жыл бұрын
@@Spaijit Another plus point why Sam Raimi was a Genius in Spider-Man Franchise! So Comic Accurate that nor old neither new viewers get Disappointed!
@Spaijit
@Spaijit 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordkiwiz1535 well, actually its an amalgamation of things from different sources and comics. Its a classic Venom origin made with things from other well known versions of the character. Sam Raimi just made a Venom that had a generally classic origin.
@lordkiwiz1535
@lordkiwiz1535 3 жыл бұрын
@@Spaijit Yup, just if Marvel didn't Pressured Sam during making of Spider-Man 3, it can be even better than Spider-Man 2!
@StareachValcin
@StareachValcin 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, the whole "Eddie Brock date with Mary Jane" thing happened before Eddie confronted symbiote Peter about losing his job. Just a minor correction.
@Albino_Basilisk
@Albino_Basilisk 3 жыл бұрын
Something else that’s worth mentioning is that if this Eddie/venom ever got redeemed down the line (which is likely cus carnage was teased and we all know carnage = a venom Spider-Man team up), it would feel perfectly natural, because as you mentioned, we do see this Eddie be a good person and even heroic in the early episodes. In the 90’s animated series, it came out of nowhere when he said him becoming a journalist was so that he could be a hero in the “Venom Returns” episode. Example: I fail to see how framing Spider-Man for breaking into the space shuttle is “heroic” when Eddie clearly saw it was the rhino. That would be spreading misinformation, bad word, lies, slander is spoken, in print it’s libel
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 3 жыл бұрын
Eddie changed in the 90s series. Time in prison and seeing Cletus changed him but yeah it's not that well written but I still like it
@Albino_Basilisk
@Albino_Basilisk 3 жыл бұрын
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 yea I still like that version too
@joe-wd5gn4fv2j
@joe-wd5gn4fv2j 3 жыл бұрын
Man, this video brings back memories. Growing up, I fucking loved watching this series so much that it got me into the ultimate spiderman comics. Great vid man
@dekuOP21
@dekuOP21 Жыл бұрын
My favorite scene of Venom in Spectacular Spider-Man is when Eddie first transforms into Venom and yells out "We will have vengeance on Spider-Man!!" It was just so freaking awesome
@Rodrigo_B_Viana
@Rodrigo_B_Viana Жыл бұрын
His fighting scenes in this show is my favorite for a good damn reason, he is so brutal
@andreabritto7291
@andreabritto7291 3 жыл бұрын
This was awesome, straight up 👌
@Kal-213
@Kal-213 Жыл бұрын
Also at 6:54 I wanted to mention that Eddie thought Peter was there taking pictures of the fight but didn't call the cops when the symbiote was "stolen" but in reality Peter thought Chameleon (who was masquerading as Curt Conners) would call the cops. So yeah, it sucks but I love the buildup to his hatred of Peter.
@HMNCLunar
@HMNCLunar 9 ай бұрын
So he, indirectly, did create Venom... Guess that's what Peter gets for not seeing the Chamaleon as one of his greatest foes.
@Kal-213
@Kal-213 9 ай бұрын
@@HMNCLunar Lol fr. He was bamboozled.
@chrisgoris3794
@chrisgoris3794 2 жыл бұрын
There are things I like about this venom. For instance I like how his voice is a combination of Eddie brocks voice and the symbiotes voice. Just symbolizes that venom is 2 beings. Not just one. The build up was fantastic. And they managed to perfectly encapsulate Eddie's up most HATRED towards both Peter Parker and spidey. And the name of the symbiote had meaning. "From now on were poison to both Peter parker and spiderman. WERE VENOM!" That line was fantastic. Really enthusized venoms character. And he did everything he could to hurt Peter both physically and mentally. Such as going after his aunt, Gwen stacy, frame him. IMMEDIATELY goes after peter while he's at his house. And tries making him feel guilty for what he did. That's why I love this version of venom. The animated series Eddie Brock was also cool. But when comparing him to this version. He pales in comparison. God I miss this series and even years later having to accept the fact it was canceled before we even got to get a season 3 and see new characters with build up. Still breaks my heart...
@darby2956
@darby2956 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing they're gonna take inspiration from the ultimate timeline for the spider man 2 game
@ozairchishti1264
@ozairchishti1264 3 жыл бұрын
Calling it now, Harry's gonna try to be a hero at first and the primary antagonist will be Kraven until Harry loses control and becomes way too aggressive and either kills Kraven or does something else irredeemable. Peter's gonna have to kill Harry and Norman who genuinely seems to love Harry in the Insomniac game universe will finally be sent over the edge with grief and become the Green Goblin and serve as the main villain of Spider-Man 3.
@csab8642
@csab8642 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of hope they could find a way to blend the two versions of the Venom symbiote's origin. Like maybe they can say Norman discovered the faint remains of black goo in a crashed meteor, and uses it in some science experiments to try and make a cure for Harry. Only for it to be revealed that the black goo was the remains of an alien symbiote that was rejuvenated thanks to Oscorp messing around with it.
@darby2956
@darby2956 3 жыл бұрын
@@csab8642 it would have a similar theme to the first game then,Norman being the cause of a disaster cos he wanted to use something he didn't understand,even tho it was to save someone important to him
@csab8642
@csab8642 3 жыл бұрын
@@darby2956 I guess
@HyperGaming-eg9fs
@HyperGaming-eg9fs 3 жыл бұрын
@@ozairchishti1264 wait...harry is spider man 2's venom?bruh I thought it's Eddie,it's better to be Eddie
@JackassJunior627
@JackassJunior627 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this version because it combines both elements from the mainstream comic Venom and the Ultimate comics Venom. Two of my favourite versions of Eddie Brock/Venom in one.
@GamerSlyRatchet1
@GamerSlyRatchet1 2 жыл бұрын
Greg Weisman (co-showunner) actually mentioned that Eddie risking his life so often shouldn't be seen as a heroic moment. He is a foil to Peter, just like the other villains like Norman and Otto, and just like Peter learned to value life after losing his parents and Uncle Ben, Eddie has no respect for it after losing his parents. And then what he said about how he envied Peter's life makes me wonder how sincere a lot of his nicer moments actually are.
@raimundoreyes9792
@raimundoreyes9792 3 жыл бұрын
amazing vid dude
@ericjohnson6120
@ericjohnson6120 3 жыл бұрын
The scene in Spectacular Spider-Man where Spider-man and Black Cat are fighting while Venom is crawling around the lab made me want to see a What If...? story where Venom bonds with Black Cat instead of Spider-Man.
@misbehaven1237
@misbehaven1237 3 жыл бұрын
There is a symbiote Black Cat in the Web of Shadows game, but that’s about it as far as I know
@jahdielheywood5277
@jahdielheywood5277 3 жыл бұрын
ngl that ending track was a good move
@williambeck2372
@williambeck2372 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest hype, and sadness about the cancelation before season 3, is that according to Weissman Venom here was still going to become a good guy at some point, especially since Carnage was being set up clearly, so even with all this there's clearly some good inside Eddie AND The Symbiote to some degree and due to how Weissman set up Venom here? They legit ran the gauntlet of all Spider-Man vs Venom stories so logically there wouldn't be a reason to do a third thing unless it was just to settle accounts.
@SpaceRider15
@SpaceRider15 3 жыл бұрын
Venom man, Venom man, Friendly symbiote venom man! Spins a web, Any size! Catches thieves, *MAKES THEM DIE!* EDIT: this was an actual song venom sang in the comics once
@elijahx4977
@elijahx4977 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck on getting a job, and thank you for this great video! I personally enjoyed this Venom myself as well!
@aranax418
@aranax418 Жыл бұрын
What made venom hate spiderman excluding the orginal eddie's hatred is the symbiotes own hatred of being rejected by peter.
@insane_rail_lover
@insane_rail_lover 7 ай бұрын
When Venom says “Like looking in a Mirror Bro 😏, THE FUN HOUSE KIND 😈” it used to scare me when I was little but now at age 17 I actually laugh my ass off from the way he speaks and gets his face up close 😂😂😂😂😂
@savvi6s
@savvi6s 2 жыл бұрын
I like how this symbiote madness started because dr Martha didn't trust Peter
@bigevil1001
@bigevil1001 Жыл бұрын
@@verdadeirojoaovitor3250How can you declare the PS5 version your 2nd favorite when it’s not even out yet?
@verdadeirojoaovitor3250
@verdadeirojoaovitor3250 Жыл бұрын
@@bigevil1001 sei lá cara Já faz um ano desde que eu parei com essas palhaçadas que eu escrevia no ano passado. Agora eu evolui como pessoa E espero que você também
@sketchysketches381
@sketchysketches381 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite venom and with Spider-Man being my favorite marvelous hero Venom easily became my favorite marvel villian especially after this series. He's just a perfect antithesis to Spider-Man. Literally just high caliber Spider-Man with a strength that he can't overcome his ability to be invisible to Spider-Sense. He's a good villian to anyone but he's Venom to both Peter Parker and Spider-Man
@stephenking5852
@stephenking5852 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best designed Venom is in Spider-Man: Unlimited. It’s not as well-known, and it’s really weird, but ya’ll should check it out. It got canceled too!
@ssj2rhandy
@ssj2rhandy 8 ай бұрын
Great portrayal of the big guy My only complaint is that venom should’ve interacted with the other villains like a team up that would’ve been awesome but they didn’t do their homework
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 3 жыл бұрын
This past year this Venom had gotten me through loneliness and I understand my favorite venom better than I ever did as a kid and high schooler.
@wintersoldier164
@wintersoldier164 3 жыл бұрын
i agree, this venom had a deep connection with spiderman.
@ghostwriter1440
@ghostwriter1440 Жыл бұрын
I had some minor gripes with design choices for this version of venom ( higher pitched voice, black webbing vs white and no white patches on the hands/ wrist where he shoots web) but god damn the story crafting of turning an ally into an antagonist is top tier. They did something similar with the rift that grew between Rick and Shane in the walking dead. Which I think is fitting as Shane and Venom are darker mirrors of their respective series protagonists
@SellavinAtoms
@SellavinAtoms 3 жыл бұрын
This show has someone potential it should have gotten the season 3 because of Disney and they're dealing with Sony they have to cancel it in favor of their own show marvel Spider-Man it was not a bad show it's still spectacular was better.
@zombiemomsen66
@zombiemomsen66 Жыл бұрын
Aint no way you said to pirate this godly show. Bruh. Its worth supporting
@trevturp6891
@trevturp6891 Жыл бұрын
Spectacular Spiderman doesn't completely make Venom a sympathetic character, his motivation is really bad.
@gabbyfowler669
@gabbyfowler669 2 жыл бұрын
This was actually the first Eddie I ever got to know. I new who Venom was, but I never cared about the host. I mean, why should I? The monster is the only important thing, right? But after being introduce to this Eddie I found myself surprised about how "lacking" in connection to Peter the rest of them were. It's both a blessing and curse.
@bld-11
@bld-11 Жыл бұрын
The only problem I had with this venom was his voice, venom is supposed to sound scary and threatening, and yet this version just has Eddie's voice with some small bits of venom's voice in the background, it sucks
@OOKAMI3483
@OOKAMI3483 Жыл бұрын
I know me too, and don't forget how he skipped leg day😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@bld-11
@bld-11 Жыл бұрын
@@OOKAMI3483 Yea, but that's more of a character design, the voice should've been changed
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 3 жыл бұрын
He is the most relatable Venom and my favorite version as well as favorite Spidey characters of all time. Emo Peter doesn't count as venom. He's #1 of all time.
@ajjr755
@ajjr755 Жыл бұрын
Man I wish this series wasn’t canceled we would’ve got to see more characters and would’ve seen this Spider-Man an venom teamup against carnage and does anyone know the name of the song in 1:08
@robertkenny1201
@robertkenny1201 7 күн бұрын
So far this and 1994 Spider-Man animated series are the only two shows to do Venom properly.
@acedoomer5244
@acedoomer5244 Жыл бұрын
2 years past, and this Venom still the best
@robertkenny1201
@robertkenny1201 Жыл бұрын
We'll thats not a difficult feat really, the only other good animated incarnation of Venom is the one from the 90s series.
@shershersher
@shershersher 3 жыл бұрын
my favourite spider-man on screen
@joshuataylor7443
@joshuataylor7443 9 ай бұрын
Even though Eiddie already knows he spider man when he’ became venom so he knows he didn’t leave them.5:58
@ayflames
@ayflames 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, or might I say spectacular ;)
@FookMi69
@FookMi69 3 жыл бұрын
_"You want the wall crawler? Well here’s a scoop: PETER PARKER IS SPIDER-MAN!"_
@ashlesnec44
@ashlesnec44 Жыл бұрын
also had a BANGER intro
@Rhyscele
@Rhyscele 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video
@AntiSerpent
@AntiSerpent 3 жыл бұрын
I miss this show it had the very best cast
@jedidiahross6463
@jedidiahross6463 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite part about this whole venom story is that the symbiote feeds off negativity in peter and made him a dick. I like how the symbiote was saying to peter that uncle bens words are stupid asf and it gets you nowhere. But when uncle Ben came in it’s like it was in peter all along and made peter think about his aunt may, Gwen, Harry, Mary Jane, J.J, Betty brant, flash Thompson etc. Peter rejected the symbiote because he didn’t want to become one with the ooze and leave everyone and everything behind and that “with great power comes great responsibility.” actually means something. If Eddie had a aunt may and uncle Ben….venom would probably never even exist.
@comicbookreviewer4856
@comicbookreviewer4856 2 жыл бұрын
To me had Aunt may and Uncle ben offer to take eddie in maybe offer him a place to stay maybe Eddie could've been helped
@tuxedeoboi9155
@tuxedeoboi9155 3 жыл бұрын
while I agree that the show is the best of existing material in terms of animated series, I kinda like the new Eddie and venom from the Venom movies. in terms of Eddie in the tv series, ya these one's thee best
@mro9629
@mro9629 3 жыл бұрын
He did not use the black suit in the comics for 10 years, in the sliding timescale, it was a couple of months, if he used it of that many years the suit would have bonded with him for forever
@benjibread
@benjibread 3 жыл бұрын
yee, I know. That's why I said in the real world, the actual publication history
@mro9629
@mro9629 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjibread most of that time wasn't even the symbiote suit, it was just the cloth suit made by black cat
@comicbookking3446
@comicbookking3446 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjibread What do you think of Venom in the 90s series ? The changes to the symbiote storyline in the 90s series inspired both Spider-Man 3 and Spectacular Spider-Man.
@داركماتر-ت1ط
@داركماتر-ت1ط Жыл бұрын
​@@benjibreadin Eddie heart he was always being jealous and hate Peter because he have his aunt she was like mother to him and chansec to be happy and people who Love him care about him Eddie have nothing Live in Dirty apartment alone venom was his Best friend to him and bridge the gap in his Way to take everything from Peter to make him feel what he feel being Ab empty shell
@BM-sg1sl
@BM-sg1sl 3 жыл бұрын
90's animated spiderman is the definitive spiderman adaptation along with their portrayal of Eddie Brock/Venom. Unfortunate the Venom movies are hot garbage. The charater deserves way better
@Sagee_
@Sagee_ 3 жыл бұрын
Sam Raimi did it really well, though, compared to the 616 version where Eddie and Peter literally had no connection to each other. My theory is that Raimi misunderstood Venom a bit, considering he took interpretation from the ultimate universe as well. On the other hand, the recent Venom movies are not that great at all.
@antogno4625
@antogno4625 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sagee_ just no
@Sagee_
@Sagee_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@antogno4625 You can't tell me why it sucks cuz your repeating some bozos amd you don't have your opinion L
@antogno4625
@antogno4625 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sagee_ not really, if the Sam raimi venom sucks for obvious reasons its pretty common to have similair opinions. Just because they have a connection, a really stupid one too, it doesn't mean its better. I bet you're the type of guy who think he's cool just because he has a different opinion from almost everyone Oh yes and *you're So minor spelling mistake=ratio
@Sagee_
@Sagee_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@antogno4625 Oh boy, you crossed the wrong dude. A connection, you see, may not appear to be important, but when the villain is personally connected to the main character, it has a different impact. While the connection should not be the most important factor, it does add depth to the rivalry. The goal is what counts first. The protagonist's and antagonist's goals should be mutually exclusive. That way, the audience understands why the conflict exists, which in the Raimi triology is always present and the third movie is no exception. But when making a villain that has a connection to the hero, the grudge and rivalry become more intense. When Brock and Peter have a connection and Brock knows who Peter loves the most, it becomes more intimidating for the viewer and the protagonist. They can strike and hurt the protagonist with ease at any time. Everything I mentioned was present in the third Spidey movie. But I'm not going to argue about the third movie being a masterpiece. It was rushed and interfered with by the studio, but by just watching scene by scene, you can see how much love Raimi put into this, how much he tried to fight and make the movie watchable. Just by looking at the scenes, the cinematography is top-notch. He was forced to add Venom, but he didn't disappoint. Considering there were like 3 different villains and a whore who was getting in the way, most of it was reshot. You can watch a video about it by HiTop Films. I'll leave a link if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJy1g4CFmNKapcU Get rekt, young man. L+ ratio
@brennanwn
@brennanwn 3 жыл бұрын
This venom was truly fantastic
@npc1368
@npc1368 3 жыл бұрын
Why half of freinds of peter being a villan?
@timmyhaymore7125
@timmyhaymore7125 Жыл бұрын
I want a seadon three to happened when peter and eddie teamed up against carnage
@coyoteclan480
@coyoteclan480 Жыл бұрын
I never read the ultimate Spider-Man comic. Only seen the covers and some art in ultimate Spider-Man game. And some cutscenes also.
@JTheBeastMcneil
@JTheBeastMcneil 3 ай бұрын
8:22 . Eddie ? Buddy? Do you need some alone time?
@thegreatacolyt1277
@thegreatacolyt1277 11 ай бұрын
Yes it does
@mc-maitrixgaming4330
@mc-maitrixgaming4330 3 жыл бұрын
Love spectacular venom He would be my favourite Eddie venom were it not for his voice It’s just Eddie’s with a cheap echo filter over it and they should’ve at least made it deeper It’s the only reason that Tom Hardy venom is better
@harrypierre7532
@harrypierre7532 3 жыл бұрын
Had a great song, plus shows was good. To bad still miss this show🤔🤔
@Splot_Boy
@Splot_Boy Жыл бұрын
they need to make a game about spectacular spider-man kinda like they did with ultimate
@trevturp6891
@trevturp6891 Жыл бұрын
Venom being a dush from the start in both the mainstream comics and ultimate comics isn't a bad thing. Us not feeling any sympathy for the mainstream Venom and the ultimate Venom isn't a problem. Not every villain needs to be sympathetic.
@BasementDweller_
@BasementDweller_ 3 жыл бұрын
Epic.
@christhianborrero3623
@christhianborrero3623 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with this Video
@mr.dr.prof.patrick7284
@mr.dr.prof.patrick7284 3 жыл бұрын
My reaction to seeing the title of this video: Spongebob Squarepants season 2 episode 15 at 18:02
@jexelbur6872
@jexelbur6872 3 жыл бұрын
9:00 how to get Rick Rolled by Marvel
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 2 жыл бұрын
The reason eddy risks his life to save others is because he's suicidal
@nejkgamessk6031
@nejkgamessk6031 3 жыл бұрын
Raimi had the plans for the best venom of the 21st century but sony ruined it
@awsomedude23456
@awsomedude23456 3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t even want him in that movie, presumably and I also think he said he was going to introduce him in the fourth one
@LoganTocker
@LoganTocker Жыл бұрын
Eddie is in college and Gwen is in High school, there MUST be an age difference
@frogoat
@frogoat 2 жыл бұрын
While I would agree the shows version is brilliantly handled, it's not necessarily a requirement for every version of Eddie to be sympathetic. For example, if you want a straight up villainous incarnation, you'd use the irrational stalker justification mentality. But for a redemptive and potentially anti-hero iteration of the character you do tend to find the more sympathetic approach such as you cite in Spectacular and what is now the norm in the comics.
@SpaceRider15
@SpaceRider15 Жыл бұрын
KNOCK KNOCK LET THE DEVIL IN
@mrkaji8913
@mrkaji8913 2 жыл бұрын
He has Joseph Joestar and ban voice
@MILDMONSTER1234
@MILDMONSTER1234 2 жыл бұрын
God i wish we got s3 venom vs carnage...
@juregobviooogroverde9107
@juregobviooogroverde9107 2 жыл бұрын
Best Eddie Brock= The Spectacular Spider-Man (2008-2009) Best Venom= Spider-Man: The Animated Series (1994-1998).
@BloodDragon-rp4xc
@BloodDragon-rp4xc Жыл бұрын
okay but it IS worth mention that even though it was through a soft "reboot" of venom, its made clear that venom DID have reason to believe it was the real sin eater. he was contacted by another nut case that thought he himself was
@Awesomemusic19
@Awesomemusic19 3 жыл бұрын
David Michelinie and Todd McFarlane had the best venom ever. Any and everything else comes after that.
@danilobojat9476
@danilobojat9476 3 жыл бұрын
Bruuuh read up on venom lore in carnage: axis it is officially revealed that eddie brock was right and peter parker arrested the wrong sin eater. Venoms reasons arent petty to say the least. His wife left him and didnt eaven tell him that she is pregnant. Spider man destroyed his life. But they made amends and are friends now
@goku-jb7us
@goku-jb7us 3 жыл бұрын
Editing software?
@benjibread
@benjibread 3 жыл бұрын
Davinci Resolve 17
@Andy-ld8zk
@Andy-ld8zk 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question. Secret Wars started in 1984 and ended in 1985 (which is where Peter got the Symbiote) and Venom made his debut in 1988, that's roughly 4 years, so how have he been using it for 10?
@benjibread
@benjibread 3 жыл бұрын
That was my mistake, I confused it for the normal black suit that Black Cat had made for him that he used during Last Hunt, Death of Jean DeWolfe, etc.
@Andy-ld8zk
@Andy-ld8zk 3 жыл бұрын
No worries, dude, everyone makes mistakes.
@dantemelena9868
@dantemelena9868 3 жыл бұрын
I love the "brotherhood " of Peter and Eddie in this show , BTW It's not like the Thor and Loki relationship, right ?
@KenanVonKaiser
@KenanVonKaiser 3 жыл бұрын
Also The Best And Only Best Version Of Shocker The Only Thing It Was Not The Best Version Was Kraven!
@leonardocouto3109
@leonardocouto3109 5 ай бұрын
Wait up, you're not gonna touch on how he acts as VENOM? Dude, you're wildin for that. He's an AMAZING Venom. Man starts his villain phase by going to Pete's house, overpowering him and threatening to torture him by hurting everyone he cares about. Then proceeds to casually visit Aunt May at the hospital, kidnap Gwen and make her hang from a parade balloon, gets beaten, then comes back after making Peter paranoid, DOXXES PETER'S SECRET IDENTITY and THREATENS TO DEPOWER HIM, the only reason he didn't succeed was because he didn't have backup proof. Every fight with this guy, you can feel he's just a way better Spidey than Peter is and that's because essentially, it's what Brock thinks: that he's a better person than Peter ever was. He is stronger, just as smart and much more cunning, not only using the same but enhanced skillset that Spider-Man has in his arsenal, but also some of the symbiote's alien capabilities, like shapeshifting and shooting webs from essentially everywhere. The scene in their final fight in which Pete manages to knock him down, but the symbiote takes over and starts carrying Eddie's unconscious body around on webs is just SO DOPE: you basically can't beat this guy with raw punches because if the host goes down, the symbiote carries the job ON ITS OWN! Spectacular Venom is SO INSANELY GOOD.
@akshajbali5668
@akshajbali5668 3 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't have called tasm2 dumb if this video came out after NWH
@xenodragon2135
@xenodragon2135 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh spectacular had like the best intro too
@robertkenny1201
@robertkenny1201 Жыл бұрын
To be honest aside from the Venom in the 90s cartoon this really is the only interesting version of Venom in cartoons period. 1. The one in the Spider-Man Unlimited was a generic Doomsday villan. 2. The one in the Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon was a near mindless monster with no real plan whatsoever, and no replacing Eddie Brock with Harry Osborn as his host doesn't make him anymore interesting. 3. The one in Marvels Spider-Man 2017 cartoon was also a generic Doomsday villan.
@claudio1007
@claudio1007 3 жыл бұрын
5:13 WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!!
@trevturp6891
@trevturp6891 Жыл бұрын
The Spectular Spider-Man didn’t have the best version of Harry Osborn, but it’s version of the character is still spectacular (no pun intended).
@SharpestSniper99
@SharpestSniper99 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best version of Venom period to this day is still the one in the comics (especially now more than ever thanks to Donny Cates’s recent run) but in terms of Venom in media…yeah Spectacular Spider-Man is the best, EZ. True, one could make the argument that the Venom in the 90’s cartoon had a more complete character arc due to him actually becoming an anti hero like in the books but given the possible implications of what Eddie says after the symbiote left him in season 2, it’s clear there was MUCH more planned for him, probably even an anti hero arc. But regardless in terms of living up to the hype, Spectacular is king. Also 90’s is a good runner up for best, the movies aren’t perfect but a step in the right direction after Spider-Man 3, and the ultimate Spider-Man and 2017 cartoons are total garbage….oh and depending on how things go Insomniac Games could maybe dethrone Spectacular Spider-Man for best Venom (Tony Todd as his voice is already actual perfection), the world will have to wait and see.
@mro9629
@mro9629 3 жыл бұрын
I did not like what they did with Eddie in season 2, after peter takes off the suit he literally goes missing randomly, and afterwards he returns and he starts stalking and distracting peter in fights, so this makes it where Eddie is less sympathic and more of an asshole who wants to torment peter for no reason even after the suit is off. When I say no reason that is because Eddie gains all knowledge of peter as Spider-Man from the suit so he should know that the peter was helping Connors with the lizard situation and needed money for his house, and he gets his job back in season 2 with the miles warren oscorp grants, and he could easily get his job if he return the suit to the lab in the first place
@SocksFCGameArchives
@SocksFCGameArchives 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I thought that too, but I theorise that he still had symbiote spores on him, much like John Jameson, which could’ve made him obsessed with getting the suit back but I’m not sure
@javaughndouglas3641
@javaughndouglas3641 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's the point. You see this in their final confrontation. Peter (after using the Gene Cleanser on Venom): Eddie, stop. It's over. You don't have to have to hate anymore. Eddie: No, I can't. It only loves me for the hate. Deep down, Eddie truly understands that Peter was doing everything with (mostly) the best intentions. But, inadvertently, especially with the influence of the Symbiote, Peter screwed him over hard. Eddie has taken care of the puny Parker his whole life and he does him dirty. Then it's slowly revealed that Eddie always had an inferiority complex because Peter always appeared to one-up him even without trying. Eddie wants a family, Pete gets one. Eddie gets an internship with Connors, Peter does too. Eddie goes out with Gwen, she spends the entire time fawning over Peter. He doesn't yet know how hard Peter's life is. The Lizard incident made Peter look selfish and inconsiderate to both Connors and Eddie, causing Eddie to lose his job. Then the confrontation at the hospital where Peter (under the influence of the Symbiote) judo flips him and tells him to shove off. At that point, his emotions are at an all time high and his little brother just threw him under the bus. Then Spidey comes along with the Symbiote (giving Eddie a chance) and tries to destroy it. Eddie has nothing, he's angry and he just wants to lash out. The Venom Symbiote abuses this. Promises him revenge and love. Something finally accepts him. And then, at the decisive moment, the Symbiote chooses Peter. That's gotta burn. Peter buries it. So, what does Eddie do, he disappears for a bit, returning to make Peter paranoid so he can get it back. Eddie knows he's wrong but in his broken mind, it's the only thing that he has.
@SocksFCGameArchives
@SocksFCGameArchives 3 жыл бұрын
@@javaughndouglas3641 exactly this, well said.
@dilloon7626
@dilloon7626 3 жыл бұрын
@@javaughndouglas3641 both Pete & Ed would’ve prolly sort things out had a Season 3 happened & they fought Carnage together
@awsomedude23456
@awsomedude23456 3 жыл бұрын
You’d also have to remember that the symbiote may have twisted some of the memories he showed Eddie, as it deeply hated Peter for “abandoning” it. Plus it’s aggression amplified whatever anger and hostility brock was immediately feeling towards Peter
@zacharygoodman902
@zacharygoodman902 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the background music
@Howlabunga
@Howlabunga 2 жыл бұрын
if he was a good guy, I'd agree
@yohannesb1946
@yohannesb1946 3 жыл бұрын
I watched it again and I felt this how had the best venom and doctor octavious. however, the spectacular green goblin is tied with willem dafoe's
@rickyrackey7930
@rickyrackey7930 3 жыл бұрын
#SaveSpectacularSpiderMan
@timmyhaymore7125
@timmyhaymore7125 Жыл бұрын
Please sony if your if your seeing this please make season three of spectacular spiderman Please thats all the fajs want Pkease
@MonguiStudios
@MonguiStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Best gwen, Tamspiderman films
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