Attack of the Outraged Windows Whiners

[@Whiteseastudio]

KZbin should have a feature where it shows how much % of a video was watched when a comment is written… I’m at 25% now 😜

[@Fl4ppers]

Soundcloud kind of does that.

[@Sylkis89]

@@Fl4ppers in a way youtube does a similar thing that if you add a time stamp to the comment it will show it as the highlighted comment on the phone app at that point in the video. And also if a video if published with a premiere it kinda remembers a record of the live chat at the time. But yeah just doing it the soundcloud way instead would be perfect

[@Fl4ppers]

@@Sylkis89 good points!

[@usarrr]

I'm at 2:19. When Glenn suggested a non-anime series, I instantly thought "If only he mentions The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy some day, after doing a fuckton microphone demos with excerpt from it". AND THEN BOOM!!

[@minerForAHeartOfGold]

I hate every Operating System equally

[@marvincosmo]

What about Linux?

[@DannyG-cv8so]

Yeh, and the ironic thing is that Apple Mac was the original PC😂

[@TheCLee78]

As an I.T. Specialist and Systems Engineer, I couldn't agree more!

[@SloppyGoat]

Exactly. But I do hate Apple even more. 🤣

[@TheKorgborg]

cp/m was nice

[@bass7842]

I'm still mixing on my typewriter. No lag, virus problems, or mixing.

[@2hi2dye]

Typewriter!!! I haven't even heard that word in over 3 decades!

[@CobraFat2000]

Damn. Then you need to really try out a Commodore 64 - they have BASIC on them and what not and you can save the typewriting to tapes and floppies - not just printed out paper. Also not that many known viruses and most of the stuff is solid state - so lag only comes from really bad software, but there are cartridges that can give you a boost if all else fails... Floppy drive is a whole computer on its own so that option is costly.

[@EmperorKamikaze]

Try Abacus.

[@patrichausammann]

​@@EmperorKamikaze I still use my great-grandfather's mechanical calculator from time to time. There are no technical crashes with this device because the thing is solid and runs on rollers. ;-)

[@matthewvigo3537]

I’m mixing in a a bread bowl. I believe in Analogue only.

[@crossedstreams3683]

>calls out windows users for throwing a tantum over saying their preferred platform is awful. Yeah, Apple users have NEVER done that.

[@sole__doubt]

Thats called whataboutism and its a logical fallacy. Thats what happens when you allow your feelings to cloud your judgment.

[@scottjohnston1028]

After 40 years in IT, all computers suck. Trust me, I know.

[@hardwire666too]

Fact.

[@Mark-OutWest]

After using computer since the late 70's no they don't all suck in my not so humble opinion. Nothing is perfect, but I like my Apples and Macs.

[@sgholt]

I had a Mac that became obsolute within a couple years.... Trashed it. I did Linux Administration for years and still do for fun. I mainly use Windows which works for my minimal needs.

[@hardwire666too]

@@Mark-OutWest Go back to your parallel dimension. In this dimension the earliest version of windows was in the early and mid 80's.

[@larzblast]

​@@hardwire666tooI think you might have missed the point that he has worked with operating systems that pre-date Windows. There are more than two operating sytems.

[@wisterialosenge2546]

the tone is in the windows 98

[@michaelmoore7975]

Rick Beato took all his Macs by the cords and dragged them up and down the street. Now he's happy.

[@snap-off5383]

LOL.

[@sgholt]

He still got a grammy

[@electriceyeswatching4415]

Next up on Glenn’s rage bait, round ice cubes vs rectangle.

[@OuchMyHooves]

obviously rectangular ice cubes give better tone to my quadridiurnal piss.

[@christopherharv]

I’ve found you get warmer tone with the rectangles

[@weavingspider6328]

Definitely the hollow round cylinder ice with the hole through the center. I love that ice.

[@bluetopguitar1104]

P51 or Spitfire. Ford or Chevy

[@jloiben12]

That first comment is a very good one. There are pros and cons to both Windows and Apple. There is no global “right” answer. It all depends on the specific person and the specific use case

[@Jayteaseepiirturi]

This. And the mileage may vary. Someone's impression would be that a Windows PC is the way to go professionally. Hell, what do we do?

[@EgoChip]

Exactly. Each to their own. Everyone finds their own way through life, and that includes choice of DAW's. I can't stand elitists who think that everyone should do things the same way they do. It's a very dangerous mindset. It's why religion is so evil.

[@snap-off5383]

Not really. PCs will out-perform apples on virtually everything except: "can you box a user in so that they cannot make the machine error?"

[@jloiben12]

@@EgoChip Agreed. It doesn’t matter what DAW you use so long as you accept Studio One as the best ;) Jokes aside, that’s exactly the point

[@jloiben12]

@@snap-off5383 Which can also be the thing that matters

[@GabrielAngelfire]

Mixcraft user here for years. It's intuitive AF. Everything works the way you would expect it to work. If you think "click here and doing this should do this", that's what it does. Seems silly, but compared to other DAWs it's a zero learning curve. Unlimited tracks and DB meters on each individual plugin window, just absolute delight. Great MIDI editing and also has Sheet music editing. Comes with a great loop library of instruments in case that's your thing. I admit that save for a couple rare gems, most of its stock plugins feel like lightweight "placeholders" to use while drafting ideas until you finish and put your pro plugins. Interface is the same as every other stuff. You get your instruments and plugins on the left. The waveform on main, and some extra stuff like your mastering/loop library/editing on the bottom.

[@wongalahara8196]

Yo mixcraft is so easy to use. I love it.

[@pedrodossantos5890]

The thing with PC is that, some people simply have no choice, for example, a fully spec PC is about 4 thousand reais (I'm talking Brazils money) and the cheapest Mac you can find here, the base model Mac Mini, starts at 8 thousand, let's pretend I don't spend any money on anything else whatsoever, it is still over 4 times my monthly income for the base model, and if you split the payments, you got to pay interest, it can easily double the price, most cards won't let you do that, you would need a loan or something like that, and the Mac would cost over 18k, again, just for the base model, that's why you don't see recording studios using Macs in Brazil that often, and when you do, they are old machines

[@OfficialJulien.T]

I mean, tech is so overpriced in Brazil... that's a very specific market

[@monst3rmachin3productions12]

Wrong. Check again. New mac mini is $599 US Dollars or 3,500 real. The base model is all you need with the new M4 chip.

[@myopicautisticmetal9035]

@@monst3rmachin3productions12 You say $599 as though that isn't six hundred dollars, it must be nice to have $600.00 to blow on a machine just to record music. Personally, I have to save over a year to afford such things and I'm disabled, Ola said the same thing to me last month "Just get a macbook air they're only a grand" as though $1,000.00 is ten bucks.

[@bassyey]

And yet Brazil PC builders flaunt their 4090s online in reddit lol.

[@pedrodossantos5890]

@monst3rmachin3productions12 I got the price from the Brazilian apple website

[@thegreatmothra]

People get the whole PC vs Mac situation all wrong. When doing mission critical work it should always be assumed that whatever you are using is eventually going to fail at the worst time. The trick is to build in resiliency into your systems with strong backup regimes (off and on site) and sound recovery strategies for both hardware and software failures (disk images, redundancy, next day service contracts etc.) I think its fair to say that in a world where you don't have all this a Mac will tend to last longer before fucking you... but eventually you'll still get bent over!

[@x8jason8x]

Never been bent over by anything, because of redundancies. This is the biggest thing about any tech.

[@snap-off5383]

This guy works in IT ^ The worst you should have to do absent hardware failure, is reboot to your frozen image.

[@MichaelDaviesMusic]

@12:11 I use Mixcraft. But I also use Reaper

[@ethangear5608]

I use mixcraft cause it's what I learned on

[@DerVagabundli]

My Mac experience was fine. Until after an update my interface was no longer supported with no way to manually install the driver. And then main stage for an update which made it crash every five minutes. Now I'm a happy windows user still using said interface. All I'm saying is: different people with different use cases will have different experiences. There's no point in picking a "side" and wildly defending it. Just use what works for you without being too biased.

[@needsLITHIUM]

I don't use Mac or Windows. I'm that weird person that uses Linux. Before anyone says anything about me being a Massochist, Reaper and my favorite guitar amp sims (Audio Assault, Neurontube, NAM) all work native, and I own two different interfaces (Behringer UMC404HD, Zoom U-22), and they both work plug n play. I have friends with Mackie, PreSonus, and Focusrite interfaces, and as long as it's not one of the super fancy ones with onboard routing and DSP, it usually just works, even the thunderbolt ones, just as long as your system has the port, or a USB4 port, you're golden. If anyone else wants to "be a massochist" with me, stick to Debian and Ubuntu, or similar distros like MX Linux and Linux Mint.

[@ralphbeebytheelephantcolle1651]

Another so-called masochist here! Similarly, I've had a very straightforward experience with Focusrite and Steinberg interfaces just plugging-n-playing on various versions of Ubuntu. Ardour has been an amazing DAW - especially considering it's FOSS. It's been tricky getting some proprietary plugins to work, but there's some excellent free equivalents out there. And of course, the OS doesn't start to drag after nine months like a Windows install would...

[@spunicunifait2697]

I also dumped Windows and Apple for Linux, no regrets! Escaping Apple and MS BS feels deliberating.

[@adamlanghans]

I use Arch btw (with Reaper)

[@spunicunifait2697]

@@adamlanghans you got LSP, right? Using Mint here, but I might switch to Arch as well.

[@needsLITHIUM]

@@adamlanghans I actually know a guy offline who uses a setup with Arch, BitWig, and sometimes Reaper

[@frjhracing]

Soft spoken, combed hair, suited Glenn cant hurt you, he doesnt exist... 7:50

[@christopherharv]

He’s in Ned Flanders mode

[@kevingallant8073]

I think the ire of the Windows crew towards Mac has less to do with stability and more to do with Apple's mindset on everything... closed ecosystem, anti right-to-repair, anti-consumer policies locking you into their ecosystem which punishes people who don't buy enough Apple products (Try using apple watch or ear pods with an Android phone), and the near religious fanaticism that the pro-Mac crowd tends to have. Apple is essentially the Gibson of the computer world... so people raise eyebrows when Glenn supports them. But your points are valid... They have creator-focused tools, and they are stable for the most part. Until something goes seriously wrong, and their advice is to buy the new one. The nightmares I've heard... check Linus tech tips and Louis Rossman content on support issues. And thats why PC users fight for their silicon lottery and risk of errors. Not because you are right, but because so often, Apple is just so wrong.

[@snap-off5383]

It's more of a "facepalm". Kids riding bikes with training wheels around going "see! i *NEVER* fall over!" as if they're better than the kids riding without training wheels who got an ouchie trying to spin a brodie. Apple and gibson are opposites: Apple: OPen it up it works, with HIGHLY limited options. Gibson: Open it up, it doesn't work, you have to put TONS of work into it to get it halfway decent." Gibson is the PC of guitars. Pc Snobs are those who have gibsons that stay in tune. They put in the work to learn the item.

[@CobraFat2000]

@@snap-off5383 So Apple is more like the Guitar Hero controller of the guitar world - you push your buttons and guitar sounds get produced and for some people that's all they ever wanted (of course you have to get the game and are limited to whatever set of songs is available there), while every other guitar is a PC and the pricier branded guitars are PCs that run Windows.

[@TheDemocrab]

This. It's pretty much "Our way or the highway" when Apple's way kinda sucks more and more the further you drift away from their "ideal user". Just ask anyone whose been a Mac Gamer, which despite OS X having 5x the userbase of Linux is currently at a similar market size because Apple keeps screwing them over because ideally they'd just be playing microtransaction-laden games made for smartphones instead of full-blown PC games like Civilisation. (of course, Apple gets a cut of those microtransactions and is a market leader in mobile gaming thanks to the iPhone, whereas they've always just been "Linux albeit with a bit more developer support" in the PC gaming world until the transition to 64bit only and ARM CPUs pushed them to pretty much "Linux albeit with slower GPU drivers" from a PC gaming perspective.) Combine that with the simple fact that both Windows and Linux do work for the exact same tasks that OS X is touted as being the "only" choice, where often OS X is just the easiest learning curve for those tasks and personally I'll take the learning curve, largely because that learning curve *just* affects that specific task whereas getting used to Apple's idiosyncrasies involves changing a helluva lot more about my workflow and SOPs which is a huge pain in the butt at the best of times. And having used OS X, there's a lot that I'd just never get used to or like such as that ridiculous waste of screen space Dock. (Which is more or less just a modern Windows or KDE style taskbar in 4x the space with a bunch of nice distracting animations forcefully baked in, that always looks cluttered because application devs don't exactly match icon styles)

[@loganmedia4401]

I use both regularly. I'll agree that for a long time Apple's operating system had a better default audio driver and the included creation tools were far superior to the junk Microsoft included with Windows. However when it came to professional tools it was really only about personal preference, because there are plenty of excellent ones available for Windows and there have been for a long time. My overall experience of stability is that Windows is no less stable than MacOS or OSX. Windows hasn't been an operating system that crashes with any regularity for over 20 years. Neither are Apple's systems immune to crashes. I've seen more than enough kernel panics on them. Before OSX back in the 90s when Microsoft already had virtual memory support Apple did not and their OS would just reboot if the system ran out of memory. It was also very easy to get it into a mangled state that could only be fixed by a complete reinstall. Yet my Mac fanatic friends back then would go on and on about how stable Apple's products were and how awful Windows was.

[@naycnay]

@@TheDemocrab The dock can be sized however you want it, static or magnifying, animated or not and auto-hide as to never take up real estate from your screen. You say "out way or the highway" but macOS has a lot of stuff in the customisation menus and even more stuff accessible via a command line and much of the same customisations of Linux can be applied to macOs. Windows is the locked down one here, and I say this as a professional .NET developer who lives in Windows. There is a reason that macOs has a funny bell curve where IT illiterate people like macs, then as people learn a little bit about computers their dislike for macs ramps up, then when you get to the expert/professional scene, the mac love returns because macOs is Unix and POSIX compliant, and gets out of the way of application developers who get to make more stable apps resulting in mac-first industry standard software in the creative spaces. Windows is the "Why can't you be normal" meme here; everything about how it works is proprietary and unique to Windows.

[@DIRTSHACKRECORDS]

Your channel helps my general mood greatly man...Thank you...

[@needsLITHIUM]

Acer laptops are like the PC equivalent of buying a Geo Metro, or one of those Kia cars that could be stolen with a USB cable - but only if it didn't catch fire randomly for no reason.

[@demitriuspandi9736]

HEY!!!! That's not fair. I had a 94 Geo metro for a few years about a decade back. Drove that thing up to about 170 some odd thousand miles before someone stole it. Sure it wasn't a GREAT car, got it used, the fuel gauge never worked, so I had to basically count miles, the driver's side door & head liner was non existent, (which made summer driving feel like being sentenced to the box in Cool hand Luke but made getting to the window SUPER easy), & it had the general feel of a traveling carnival ride held together with twist ties & bird droppings, but hey. I put a LOT of miles on that car & drove it ALL over Washington state. Point being, Clearly that POS car, while still being a POS, was no where near the dumpster fire that Acer laptops are. A Dell, maybe. Because most Dells are also POS PCs, but at least they usually work, most of the time. But Acer? Man, When it comes to Acer, Compaq & HP, Even if someone were to give me one for free, hell, even pay me to take one, I'd have to say "no thanks. Not worth it". I certainly would take a free Geo Metro though. XD I'd equate Acer more to a Yugo or a late 70's pinto... after it exploded... then was pissed on.... then set on fire again..... then was pushed off a cliff.... then haunted with some weird curse..... yeah, that's a bit closer, assuming it's a top spec, brand new Acer. Otherwise, it's basically the same plus.. I dunno, getting a pineapple sized & shaped butt plug made from broken shards of jagged, rusty metal shoved up your ass, followed up by a salt & lemon juice enema?

[@needsLITHIUM]

@@demitriuspandi9736 yeah, that's fair. Valid. Definitely more of a lemon batch of 70's Yugo or late 80's Pontiac Fiero cars. But still, my point is gotten across - that Acer laptops are pieces of shit. And regarding Compaq and HP, it's weird, they actually USED TO make really GOOD laptops, but now... EW. Yeah, same response; I'd rather have something from Asus, Gigabyte, etc, or one of those fancy boutique brands - I'm a huger weirdo, so even if I put Windows on it, I would still probably aim for one of those companies that make premium Linux devices, like Star Labs, System76, Puget Systems, Tuxedo Computers, et al, just because I know the build quality and warranty are actually, like, not fucking terrible. Also, hey Washington! I'm originally from Florida, but relocated to the Puget Sound/I-5 corridor metro area in 2014. Tacompton is where I'm usually at these days. I hope the Seattle Progressive Metal Association starts doing jam nights at El Corazon again, those are great for networking and just vibing with other musicians, plus one of the show runners is the creator of Neural Amp Modeler, Steve Atkinson.

[@badlighting]

As a Geo Metro fanboy, this comment offends me. Acer laptops are more like the TaTa Nano, a heap of dogshit produced as cheaply as possible, with no regard for safety or reliability.

[@needsLITHIUM]

The guy saying that Macs overheat, that's a relic of the Intel Mac Ultrabook days, when they would throttle harder than Homer after finding out Bart is the reason Mr. Burns fired him.

[@friedporchetta]

People who have brand loyalty to one operating system are just as bad as those who raise their fingers and explain why their console has the best specs. If you use a Mac, cool. If you use a Linux workstation, cool. If you use Windows, cool. Myself, I use Logic on a MacBook Pro and it just works for me and my needs.

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

yeah. people have brand loyalty towards apple, its even bigger loyalty. i used macbooks. theyre trash closed enviroment overpriced dogshit. keep trying americans

[@friedporchetta]

@ whew bad bait. You’d didn’t even try.

[@drwhave]

I am not loyal to windows. i just fucking hate macs and how everything works just a little off for me as a pc user. Even their mouse moves weird. But then again i record as a hobby and none of my income depends on my uptime and stability. it would be very different if i'd start to lose money due to crashes and i would swallow the mac frog if i had to.

[@coscwyite]

Honestly, I do get brand loyalty for a lot of things. Game systems? In terms of retro ones at least, I am always picking the Sega console of the generation. Computers? I always go with windows. It suits my needs and I can play any video game I want on it. Even in terms of food. I go to Taco Bell almost daily and you will never see me at a Chipotle or Taco Time. However, I've also learned it's okay to turn your back on a brand if you have a reason to. For example, me loving Sega as much as I do originally was not the case. I initially had more interest in Nintendo, until I had a Nintendo console, and realized my Genesis was just better. And as for modern consoles, I have a PS4 and have always had one for years, but I gotta say, most of my friends have always had Xbox consoles and using those has always made me wish I had an Xbox instead. They can play and rip CDs just like Windows does. So, brand loyalty is okay when you're backing a brand that you know actually puts out the better product for you and your own needs. However, that means you have to try the other ones in the market first before making your choice on who to back. Maybe you like all of them for different reasons! As Glenn said, he uses PC for gaming and Mac for editing. But, if the brand you back starts to slip and loses the same qualities you chose it for, do not be afraid to betray it. A company is just a company, not your best friend.

[@needsLITHIUM]

not even being sarcastic, this is big brain thoughts right here. Use what works for you, and fuck what anyone else thinks or says. My only gripe is when people spread misinformation, claiming one OS or another can or can't do specific things, or is inherently more or less difficult to use, when it's simply not true. A computer is a tool, and the OS is just software that makes your tool work. Nobody should care about anything but your end result that comes from the usage of that tool.

[@alexeicrnkovicmusic]

I can definitely understand the attitude of "I don't want to bother with IT stuff when I'm trying to record" and I don't blame anyone who prefers Mac for that reason. But I would argue two points: 1) Yes it does work... until it doesn't. There's a point of failure for every computer whether it be Windows, Mac, Linux etc. And personally I'm a lot more supportive of the philosophy of building the habits of diagnosing problems on the fly rather than having the Genius Bar on speed-dial. Home recording requires some level of IT troubleshooting anyway and the way I see it, the more a person is able to diagnose and fix problems with their rig without being at the mercy of outside parties like an Apple store, the better. 2) Everything connects so easily - as long as it's built to. What draws me to PC recording is that the availability of 3rd party software options seem to lean to PC users benefit. And while it's great if the Apple stuff all interconnects - especially if you're traveling - the idea of being dependent on a particular OS as a cornerstone of functionality leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Eventually someone will come out with an amazing g DAW or plug-in that might revolutionize ones workflow or creative output and the idea of it conflicting with Apple OS sounds frustrating as hell. That's my 2 cents on the matter.

[@metal_helm]

God this thumbnail goes so hard

[@redspecial4102]

...as do I 😇

[@PooNinja]

Hard as the Helm 🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@metal_helm]

@@PooNinja 💪🍋🚫

[@fkat1666]

Am I the only one using fruity loops

[@DerekFrampton]

@@fkat1666 LTFOL OMG I remember FL!

[@TheChrispablo]

dead honest: i am only still on windows so i can use a bunch of cracked plugins and libraries.

[@NabPunk]

The third party shady crap was always the greatest benefit of being outside the walled garden.

[@sharkuel]

I use Linux and have a lot of windows plugins running on it myself.

[@bluetopguitar1104]

I like windows for the flight simulation games.

[@EgoChip]

Each to their own, everyone has their own way of doing things even if you are a very naughty boy.

[@DeadGirlRising395]

@@sharkuel How are you getting the windows plug-in to work on Linux. Are you using wine?

[@chrishammillaudio]

8 years on Windows and I built my own machines, had machines from Dell, Asus, Toshiba and more. Every single Windows machine I had - plugins failed, DAWs crashed, drivers for gear failed, gear failed when it did actually work, Fans blew at max RPM anytime I loaded a few plugins and god forbid Windows decided to function right and not take forever and a day to load updates. 12 years since on a Mac and, surprise, the same plugins, gear and DAW works flawlessly. The only time I had an issue was because of my own error uploading the OS too soon. Other than that. Mac’s have been flawless for me and I’ll never go back. Every client I worked with that had Windows has had issues with their computers. When you have to be an IT tech to use your computer, it’s not worth it.

[@CobraFat2000]

I still think it is your duty to foam at the mouth and fight Macs until the very bitter end to just get the ship's steering wheel out of their hands - so the other ships don't follow and are not lead into the same whirlpool of anti-repair and anti-ownership practices. Keep showing the fat middle finger at Apple so Samsung doesn't feel like peddling their phones the same way and setting the industry standard for Android (you know how a lot of people think that Samsung and Android are interchangeable as terms), so DELL, Acer, MSI and the rest and dozens of other companies are not trying to get into the same market and take over practices. This is the imperative part where you need to spit, claw and cuss at Apple - pile up and don't feel bad for kicking them when they are down. This way you do a good deed - you keep prices down for the rest of the people on tech and we can enjoy our technology as our own - not rent it from some industrial elite. You know - love Wozniak, turn your back on Jobs.

[@chrishammillaudio]

@ Steve Jobs has been dead for quite some time and I prefer my machines to be reliable. Sorry that’s so upsetting for you to hear.

[@CobraFat2000]

@@chrishammillaudio It's not upsetting to me at all. None of this really is. I am merely suggesting enjoying the good parts and fighting for better ones.

[@steve_video]

so you have stone age experience from about the XP/vista era so you know that in 2024 windows sucks.

[@chrishammillaudio]

@@CobraFat2000 I have everything I want in my M1 Max MBP. Zero issues, renders 4K video like a breeze and have not had any virus/malware/crashing issues like I did on PC. Very happy!

[@sentfrombeyond2762]

I do recording on PC, and honestly, it can be a total nightmare. I had an issue with my Focusrite 18i20 for around a month where the audio would hang, or cut out, etc. Turns out Nvidia installed a bunch of audio drivers during a video card update and they were causing conflicts with the Focusrite. I was almost ready to toss the whole rig out the window.

[@f4tb0b]

My confession, I'm a Mixcraft user. I started some years ago as it was an easy entry point. Happy still so why change?

[@ichbrauchmehrkaffee5785]

I mis-read that as "Minecraft", lol

[@AVDRE]

Started on Mixcraft too, it does what it says. Moved on after a few years tho

[@blakeanderson7906]

Windows, iOS, whatever. I just wanna see Glenn flip out about something! Rock on!

[@mephias3984]

I’m with you on all points, Glenn. I’ve been using Logic since 2003 and still love it. It’s not so much about brand loyalty, but when you pay $199 for a piece of software 21 years ago and have never had to pay for an upgrade since, favor kind of leans toward that kind of deal. On top of that, I’ve never had to pay for an operating system. Ever. True that you cannot easily upgrade anything internal, but the Mac architecture is rock solid in my opinion and left me never needing to upgrade anything except for perhaps the RAM. In my experience, Macs are a dream for music producers and composers. They just work.

[@coldacre]

I've been using Mac's since 2006. I'm pretty sure we had to pay for Tiger, Leopard OS's?? they came on a purchased disc remember? @mephias3984

[@BonoboBerry]

12:00 "yeah who would use that ugly ass Mixcraft?" *quietly closes my hideous reaper window*

[@Turboy65]

I don't record, I just enjoy Glenn's content. For my purposes I use my Mac for just two things: To run the Axe-Edit software that controls my Axe-FX digital modelling amp, because a 27" display and mouse functionality is SO much nice than the built-in display and controls on the Axe FX, particularly for my 59 year old eyes, and for facetime. For literally EVERYTHING ELSE, I use a PC and have absolutely zero desire to change any of that. I prefer a PC for general purposes, gameplay, internet, etc. and the Mac does certain things very well for me. That's all there is to it.

[@MorphicStates]

Every tool has a purpose. Even if you use for a purpose it wasn't intended for. 😉

[@christopherharv]

I’ve had a MacBook Pro for almost 10 years, still works amazingly. I’ve definitely closed it with a piece of dirt or two on the keyboard and the screen did NOT crack. The screen has stayed in perfect shape and I’m not exactly the most careful guy in the world, this thing has been through some stuff and still works perfect.

[@garethprice1742]

I was raised on PCs so I preferred PC. I know that's why but I could never understand the price point or UI of Mac. Then I decided to learn to code for work and was told "You have to get a mac, no exceptions". I know coding isn't music production, but I've definitely spent more time staring at my coding Mac thinking "why doesn't this piece of shit work?" than I have my music production PC. The difference was that Mac's just make it easier to get started, so I'm a MUCH better coder than I am a music producer. I'm fully aware that my stubborn fondness for PCs has forced me along steeper learning curves in creative hobbies. Music Production? I picked Reaper! Video editing? Da Vinci mate! and of course I've got an Android phone with a custom launcher so no one understands my homepage. In the meantime have I gotten better at any of these hobbies? Not really. I think in hindsight I should've gone with the easier to learn platforms that all my friends already used. But I wanted to stick with my PC and fart around. Been absolutely smashing Baldur's Gate 3 on my PC however. No regrets on that account.

[@tommykruesofficial]

Brave is amazing Glenn, Watching your videos from brave but no worries your channel gets ad's turned on man.

[@areallyboredguy5825]

The cracked screen dust issue is an actual real design flaw issue but I think that's fixed now. Basically any amount of dust, even minimal (and no amount of taking care of your laptop really prevented this) could cause the screen to stop working because the connection for the screen was unprotected and in a spot where the hinge was, this wasn't an issue in the past, and wasn't an issue with any other laptop because they anticipated and protected against it. So apple dropped the ball with that one for sure. I never had that issue though because I was using an older mac for years before upgrading.

[@larzblast]

Apple are no strangers to bad engineering design. It's a shame though, as Apple come up with good innovations, the new M-CPUs being one of them. Louis Rossman is a very good resource for all that.

[@loganmedia4401]

Modern Macbook Pro screens crack easily too.

[@SantiagoCabezasNQN]

Both Windows and Mac user here. What I found funny in that video is that you did a 180º thing in the Mac vs Windows debacle. Having said that, I don't trust people that don't change their mind AT ALL in ten years. Kudos Glenn for always backing up whatever you say with evidence, and not being afraid of saying "hey, I was wrong in the past".

[@felixallstarbass7663]

So windows dosent give me clearer mixes :(

[@EmperorKamikaze]

Only if you clean your windows

[@AVDRE]

Use Windex

[@LowEnd-DropC]

Your Neve console looks pretty sic. I am not an audio/mixing engineer but am trying to use reaper and windows PC to record my guitar and it’s not fun. Thinking about going the apple way and changing interfaces. Love your channel and try to watch every episode. Keep doing what you are doing!!!

[@DerDurchschnittsmusiker]

I do agree with some of the points that you're making. But the Windows Update or BSOD things not so much. As I work in IT Support most problems that people have with Windows are user error, except Outlook and Teams that's just horrible software. And that is especially true when it comes to the notorouis Windows slow down. Because a lot of the time it's an issue of browsing sites that you shouldn't, downloading and installing shit that you shouldn't and yes I also seen Mac OS slow down and why? The same reasons. But really the price is not an issue on the newer macs? The new mac mini cost 700€ for the base model,ok fine. But I need more than the base model: 2 TB SSD and 10 Gig Ethernet. That 700€ now shot up to 1734 €. And that is the point about the price, if you need more than the base model, the price increase is just insane. Upgrading to the 2 TB SSD cost 920 €... A 2 TB SSD is 120 - 160 € in the PC world and if it dies I can you know replace it, which you can't do on a mac. And also the power button is now on the bottom of the machine? Do people not shutdown their own machines anymore? Do you all have infinite money for electricity? At the end of the day I want to say one thing... Fuck Microsoft and Apple. Both are horrible companies.

[@dan_kay]

No. I don't shut my Mac down. Runs for 7 years only interrupted for 3 hours. The consumption of the sleeping Mac is marginal.

[@loganmedia4401]

@@dan_kay Windows doesn't need to be shutdown either. Just like MacOS it needs to be rebooted when updating, otherwise it can run for very long periods of time if that is what someone prefers. But many people do regularly turn their machines off completely regardless of the operating system they're running.

[@loganmedia4401]

Apple deliberately under-specs the base models to encourage people to move up a tier. It isn't strictly necessary to turn a machine off completely anymore. In fact even when I am turning a machine off I usually use hibernate, and I have that mapped to a keyboard command.

[@DeadGirlRising395]

15 years ago I had a Mac with Final Cut Pro that beat the shit of anything for PC. I can't afford Mac these days and I loathe anything microsoft so I'm using Linux. It's really hard to find good audio recording software. I do have Windows for gaming.

[@ProjectUnknown-k9l]

11:17 I use Mixcraft. I'm a hobby player and Mixcraft serves me well for what I do. I can see where if you needed all the bells and whistles, it wouldn't work. I'm not the most-high tech savy guy so Guitar, Processor pedal, Focusrite, PC, and Mixcraft. Toss in some drum loops and I'm rockin'. Plus I don't have the bucks for professional software. Love the Videos Glenn!

[@Guitarpima]

2:11 in math class during college, we made our way to imaginary numbers. My brain was melting because of quadratic equations and word problems. For the imaginary numbers, I wrote 42 for every answer. The math teacher chuckled.

[@rolithesecond]

No time to fix your computer, so you get a computer you cannot fix instead of one you can.

[@Chrome262]

Only in hardware. Can fix any with either terminal

[@br00talbr00skeez]

Waaaah.

[@dan_kay]

I am running my Mac Mini constantly since 2017. The only time the machine was shut down was on a flight for 3 hours. Never ever - in 7 years - did I need a technician, a cleaning, a service, or had any other reason to open my Mac. I don't really believe that you know what you're talking about and just repeat talking points of Bill's fanboys.

[@snap-off5383]

Yep.

[@snap-off5383]

@@dan_kay Some dudes drove their hondas for 500,000 miles and never needed anything other than an oil change. . . others never made it 5 miles without the engine grenading. . . "YMMV" is a thing. Some of us, have your same experience.... with PCs. Also the BEST way to preserve electronics is "ALWAYS ON". They're solid state devices, the only structural integrity issue they can experience will be a result of thermal flux. Always on keeps the temperature the most constant.

[@CDI647]

Great video! I remember your earlier videos were definitely PC leaning, but I wonder what got you there in the first place. I remember having to switch to Mac during the pandemic bc my then-7-year-old pc laptop just didn't have the hardware to keep up with tracking (without crashing that is lol), so I got an old Macbook Pro (the M1 had just come out so this was pre-M1) and it's gotten along fine. Would you recommend the M1 Air for single instrument tracking and/or small projects (

[@FlameFlowe1337]

People often forget that recording studios/VFX houses/graphics designers and the likes potentially loose a lot of money, jobs, reputation and all this these things with unexpected downtime. For any specialized job that doesn't need something Windows specific and downtime is costly, get a Mac. Setup a time machine vault for when your machine breaks, when it breaks you can get a spare out of storage if you are big enough or walk into nearly any local store, restore your backup and go back to work. The way you setup an amateur recording studio VS someone whose livelihood depends on it is just not the same.

[@needsLITHIUM]

yeah, and pro studios that use windows go through the same painstaking care to back things up, and often prepare powershell scripts to configure and install everything for them. A lot of pro VFX studios actually use Linux, though their workstations are usually a mix between PC's running Linux and Mac Pro towers, and then their render farms are basically a giant Linux super computer cluster, at least that's how Pixar does it. Same with Marvel Studios. It's a matter of using the right tool for the right purpose, and for the best efficiency of whoever is actually using it. If you're playing an RPG, you don't have your magic user character grab a sword or war hammer, and you don't expect your dentist to be an expert at fixing your septic tank and drainage field.

[@cloudrunner7]

@@needsLITHIUM I can fix my own PC and have it back up and running in the same configuration in 5 or 6 hours. I have done this for years. I would choose to spend far less on a PC and Windows and have spares in storage for the cost of 1 Mac. Sounds like people are just addicted to mindless convenience. and will pay through the nose for it.

[@needsLITHIUM]

@@cloudrunner7 meanwhile, I use Linux because I can make an install ISO of my system snapshot, and as long as I make my Home folder it's own partition, I can be up and running as if nothing happened in about 20 to 30 minutes. I can also use that setup to install my same system configuration on other computers, even if they use different hardware.

[@FlameFlowe1337]

@@needsLITHIUM Use the right tool for the right job basically sums up what I meant haha, didn't think of that saying. My problem with Windows/Linux for a smaller company or an individual is that not everyone is running in a virtualized machine to snapshot with, building custom ISOs and willing to pay for a good backup solution and all the maintenance that comes with it, let alone tech savvy enough to properly configure it themselves. Personally, Ive got all my stuff backed up to the cloud, if the machine fails, I'll just chuck Windows back on it which is 15 min, get Reaper/drivers whilst the cloud sync is running and back up in 30 to 45 minutes I guess. I'm just an indivudial who plays with a DAW every so often so I'm not interested in a disaster recovery method that takes the least amount of time. Maybe it would be an interesting episode for Glenn to show us how he does it, maybe he can reach out to people in this space and interview them about it to.

[@needsLITHIUM]

@@FlameFlowe1337 my Linux distro is capable of doing all of that snapshot backup stuff installed on bare metal, no VM's involved - it's called MX Linux. I pay for Mega for the same reason - backups of all my software and recording related stuff, all my projects, all my templates, all my IR's I've bought or made myself, and NAM profiles and Amp Locker presets, etc, just so I don't have to go looking for them on the internet or recreate them again, in case something happens and I lose my home folder. If you use the snapshot feature, you can choose to make snapshots that include all the user files and even preserve your user account on the OS, or not - just little check boxes in the GUI of the program - but it takes up so much room... I had one that was 46 GB, and that was shortly after installing, lol - I probably left all the crap in my downloads and documents folders from setup like software installers. I just make a generic clone disk these days, that clones the basics of my OS, like installed software, and general desktop configuration. I'd still have to set up anything in the userspace, not the core files, but that's not so bad. One of the cooler things is that you can take that clone disk and reinstall that on any machine, and it works, Intel, AMD, Nvidia, doesn't matter, it acts like the official ISO you'd download from the distro's website, and I think that's pretty glorious. You could upload it and someone else could download it and use it, if you wanted. It's called MX Linux, like I said, and it's also the underpinning of AV Linux, a distro made for pro audio recording and video editing, and I'm pretty sure that's how the guy makes the distro - by making a snapshot clone ISO of his system, and just unchecking the boxes for retention of his user account and personal files.

[@szityin]

@13:15 It is not the truth in my case: -I've had driver-related audio issues (popping, strong digital noise from time to time, reoccuring audio pitch issues and blue screens - also caused by the driver) with my M-Audio 192|14 ($300) interface. Windows has always overwritten the driver which I've installed, the new one being the faulty one - sampling frequency and everything was properly set up and matched with the software which I've used. -I did also try the M-audio M-track Duo interface (those are very cheap), which had exactly the same driver-related issues and caused blue screens. -I have a Roland audio interface now which causes blue screens sometimes, but only after startup (my PC is also new since). -I've had driver-related noise issues with an Allen&Heath CQ series mixer ($800). WHAT DID NOT fail on me: -Tascam Model 12 interface and mixer -Zoom AMS-22 interface -Allen&Heath Zedi-8 interface and mixer Is this a joke? So hard to write windows drivers? (And for windows to not f-up what I fixed?) All of these were being used on Windows 10 Pro.

[@DrugabrieL]

How ironic... It was your "shop around" formula that made me realize I was wasting money on Apple's products (and their proprietary OS's which beautify their shortcomings with that rainbow colored wheel) and their planned obsolescence schemes. It's literally the same concept you built your channel around, just applied to guitars and rigs.

[@MorphicStates]

Sometimes the hardest advice to follow is your own. Couple that with priorities focusing on a different area. And it's a recipe for disaster.

[@Turbojugend27]

Lol. Planned obsolescence? I could fire up my 2012 Mac mini and record fine on it. Let's see you do that with a PC.......

[@DrugabrieL]

@@Turbojugend27 Asus M3A78-T, mobo AMD's Phenom II x4 955 CPU, 8GB of DDR2 PC2-8500 RAM and SSD connected to SATA2 (the only bottleneck). MOBO's stock integrated sound system (worth mentioning). It records and plays flawlessly under Windows 7 Ultimate and also all modern .NET apps run without issues. Also, Apple didn't start acting all monopolistic until maybe like 2016, so your 2012 system was still made as if they had competition in mind.

[@MorphicStates]

@@Turbojugend27 I'll take that challenge. Or did you neglect to say Windows PC specifically? Or did you just mean PC? Because I have two PCs that I built that predate your 2012 that run just fine. One from 2009. And one from around 2001. I can dual boot the one from 2012. Which has both Linux and Windows 7 on it. But either would work since they're both test boxes. And do yo have an OS preference. I still have my copies of XP, Vista, 7, and 10. I also have several laptops to chose from. A 2005 HP, 2009 Asus, and a 2012 Asus. I have more, but I'll limit it to 2012 or prior. So you have options. Edit: You can add Windows 2000 to that too. I didn't realize I still had a copy of that. Oh, snap. I still have my Win NT 4.0 too. Along with every server version up through 2012. So you definitely have options.

[@dan_kay]

@@Turbojugend27 My Mac Mini is from 2014 and IS still recording. Running for 7 years and was only once turned off for three hours.

[@maiatun]

Hey Glenn! So I now have a couple of questions I've been trying to figure out myself to no avail: 1. Is the Macbook Air M1 a viable option for recording music and using plugins? I'm choosing this version of MacBook specifically because it's the only one I can afford right now. 2. Is there any laptop (not Mac) that can rival the price of any other versions of MacBook Air (M2 or M3) that is equally powerful at the same task or even better for the same price or cheaper? 3. What would you recommend as an option for baritone guitar pickups (intended for high-gain use, of course) that don't break the bank? I'm having trouble with mine since they squeal like a pig as soon as I run the slightest amount of distortion or gain on my amp, and it is even somewhat noticeable on clean settings as well. Also, everyone else is welcome to contribute, this question is not only for Glenn.

[@loganmedia4401]

You're going to need adequate storage and memory too. The M1 Macbook Air has neither.

[@george.vasilev.reyner1916]

I'm sure all the comments read on this video will completely level-headed and reasonable.

[@SalAvenueNJ]

I have a PC now. When I go out and perform I get video. I have a used and rebuilt cell phone that does 4K video. When I get home I have a 2 to 2 and a half hour long video file. Getting the file from the device to the hard drive takes an hour or 2. Then when I drop the file into a video editing project that'll take a couple of hours. From a performance from yesterday I created a video file with a rough mono mix from my Tascam audio recorder. I made this video so I can review the performance. And creating that video took 8 hours. So that won't happen with these Mac Mini's I'm seeing for around $500 on Amazon ?

[@Afterglow.Studios]

I expected this video so much, if this was a Casino I woulda taken the house.

[@BejiVGM]

I recorded in Windows for aroun 10 years and really never had a problem recording. but with updating windows, bad drivers, formatting and reinstalling windows like once a year and audio software chewing up gaming performance. with those other things I had a lot of issues.

[@ookookook]

I use both and Mac is way less of a pain in the ass. PC hardware varies Mac is standard. Even though it’s overpriced it’s still more reliable.

[@TheLeon1032]

computers make me cry, got ya on playlist mode, we got ur back Glenn and family

[@jloiben12]

It isn’t that Windows or Apple matters. Just that Windows makes your music more gooder ;)

[@dlsproductions]

Felt nice to see a comment from another mixcraft user. I tried Ableton, FL, cubase but mixcraft -for me- is the most user-friendly daw. Love to see you trying it sometime Glenn, love your show, greeting from Costa Rica

[@1eflat]

Glenn, you are the smartest man in Canada and that is not saying much!!!

[@iWinnipeg]

Windows for games, Mac for everything else. Been in IT since the 80's. Made a career on fixing PCs and DOS/Windows. When I get home it's Mac all the way because I don't want to fix anything. Just turn it on and have it work. Same for new businesses I set up. Getting too old to make work for myself. Throw in a bunch of minis and a nas, come back next year or two for checkup. The upgradability is BS. 99% of pc users won't upgrade anything more than ram over the life of the pc. Want a faster cpu? Great. Need a new mb, and by now the ram speed has changed, so you'll need that too, then no point in using the old gen of nvme, etc.. If you're lucky you can save the case. If "overclocking" is in your vocabulary, you've already lost the plot. The goal is not to make a Miata as fast as a Porsche, it's to make a pickup haul a load reliably for a decade.

[@BullFernando-p2d]

Never used Mac, but Windows become more and more bloated. After they done recall stuff, I installed Linux and never looked back.

[@xHadesStamps]

I really want to make the move to Linux. Unfortunately, I don’t currently have the time to

[@sqlb3rn]

Linux is terrible, have fun learning terminal commands to troubleshoot your packages.

[@alexwr]

Using Windows for A/V stuff is perfectly fine, but in my experiences, I've had more problems in Windows than I ever have in MacOS. - Sample rate issues, despite the sample rates on both the interface and PC/DAW set to 48kHz - Blue screen if I unplug or turn off my interface I'd quite happily switch to (well, preferably Linux, but for now...) Windows because I don't like being locked down into one company like Apple. But I can't. I just want to make music and edit videos, I don't want to mess around with drivers and blue screens.

[@TheopticnerveX]

That new M4 Mac mini is a freaking steal at $599

[@competetodefeat4610]

You're kidding....

[@Soshikix]

"Steal" Sure

[@jihamiya5755]

🤡

[@loganmedia4401]

It certainly is. Apple doing the stealing though. It has inadequate storage at that price. They've finally started including 16Gb, years too late, and if it is in the base model I suspect that the system is now going to be consuming a lot more, so it will still be inadequate, just as 8gb was. Now if that Mac Mini came with 32Gb and 1Tb of storage for $600 that would be a decent price for that hardware.

[@mr.mystify88]

what about creating with 192khz, a friends macbook pro couldnt handle it would only playback a project smooth at 48khz using ableton. i know 99.9% cant hear a difference but my alienwares record and playback and render @192khz no problem and i hear that slight edge of fidelity. i run a 6th gen, 11th gen and a 13th gen intel and in that respect they beat the mac. after watching your videos i might be caving in to mac as well i need more inputs and aggregating audio devices looks like the most cost effective route. love your channel and content thanks for sharing all your experiences. rock on!

[@7EEVEE]

who keeps breaking this mans windows computers?

[@x8jason8x]

He does. The vast majority of PC issues are the user. To be fair, if you aren't an active person in the tech side of things, Apple is probably what you should use for recording, no lie. I say this as someone who built PCs for a living, and to this day, still refuse to buy a single Apple product, but I have quite thorough and automatic knowledge of Windows. It's not everyone that can set up a PC to do what an Apple can out of the box, this is just fact.

[@snap-off5383]

Clues given in video. "I've built pcs for years!" - obviously very poorly. So if he's building them, he's troubleshooting them, and "fixing" them. (so his opinion is about a config never actually set up correctly.)

[@snap-off5383]

@@x8jason8x Yep, apple tries to eliminate pebkac errors "Problem exists between keyboard and chair."

[@loganmedia4401]

@@snap-off5383 They turn it into problem is designer and manufacturer.

[@christian_clark]

@@x8jason8x this is not true. Some people are just unlucky. I’ve been in IT and cybersecurity for years and have built maybe 30 pcs for people. Aside from one or two people everyone has had a flawless experience. Myself on the otherhand… blue screens, faulty RAM sticks, faulty motherboards, issues with windows as a whole. I use a windows pc for gaming still. However I haven’t touched a windows device for my creative work in 3+ years.

[@Gainovermg]

Hey Glenn. You mentioned using the touchscreen for a random plugin here and there. I’m looking at possibly getting some sort of touchscreen setup, but I’ve heard that reaper doesn’t support multi touch. I know you have the giant mixer, but I’m curious what your experience has been like with using the touchscreen in Reaper.

[@davel7507]

Who cares what operating system a person uses. I prefer Windows but I'm not going to fault someone for using Apple. If the system works for you use it.

[@racpa5]

Mac for content. Widows for everything else.

[@ThabetG]

I did actually use mixcraft ages ago, probably 12-15 years ago when I was just starting, worked fine for basic beginner stuff

[@jouebien]

Oh I see we skipped over the ODeus ASIO Link Comment, which does aggerates audio devices on Windows - even support joining Core Audio and ASIO devices together.

[@kenabi]

sad the dev passed :(

[@travisjordan1528]

You can use voicemeter potato for the same thing, and its not abandonware (the dev died, luckily his brother released it for free)

[@greylocke100]

I have been using brave for the last 2 years and other than a few minor quibbles I highly enjoy it. On the software, have you ported your SMG software and plugins to Linux? And have you done any work on recording ion a linux machine?

[@TheOnlyJoeyYT]

Element Bass and PRISM are already supported on Linux, Singularity will add Linux support in the next update as well. Lead dev at Spectre Digital here ;) I personally run my recording studio on Linux!

[@greylocke100]

@TheOnlyJoeyYT which devs of Linux? MINT, Debian, Unbuntu?

[@TheOnlyJoeyYT]

@@greylocke100 I personally use Debian, but every modern distro that you like would do the job (as long as it has Pipewire, which most do).

[@greylocke100]

@@TheOnlyJoeyYT Thank you.

[@guesswork]

Again I'll say that maybe Apple is better for recording. I don't really know. But, when you're latest PC experience is based on what you yourself call a "piece of shit Acer laptop" I don't know that the comparison is very accurate

[@dan_kay]

See, and this is part of the problem. I have to know too much about pc. I really have to dig into the topic, compare, research, read, ask people. With Apple, I can go into any Applestore, get the cheapest, most basic Mac from the shelf, and it's still not a piece of shit. For a complete newbie or someone who's simply not interested in knowing how a computer works on the inside, Mac is the togo-solution, if you ask me. Press the button, wait for the music, start working. You don't have to now what a driver is, what a bus does or what the error XHD3545856PP44558775 means. You computer knows it for you.

[@HububkiFilms]

I’m a lifelong PC power user. I know a lot about computers. I haven’t had any malware, viruses or other unwanted software on my systems for over a decade. I have 128 GB of RAM, I have all premium components, and all premium software. And I couldn’t get my two audio interfaces to work at the same time, no matter how many special programs I downloaded, no matter how much troubleshooting I did…something always went wrong. I purchased a Clarett+ 2pre to be my two tracks of vocals to go with my AX/IO from IK multimedia (that came in a bundle with my purchase of Amplitube 5 Max) that would work as my guitar and bass inputs… but I could never get the computer to recognize both at the same time. 🤬🥵😡 Eventually I gave up and since I could only use one interface at a time, and I’m primarily a guitar player, I wound up selling the Clarett since the guitar input control on the IK is just superior. I was very frustrated to end up doing that, and if I’d had a Mac, it wouldn’t have been necessary, which frustrates me. So even though I am very passionate about how good PCs can be, and my system still runs almost everything extremely smoothly…I still from time to time get software incompatibilities, driver issues and blue screens of death…and I bought all premium components‼️ I can imagine how much worse it is for people who buy a “budget” or prebuilt PC that has one or two headline grabbing components, and the rest are the most cheaply sourced generic junk that the manufacturer can get away with.🤷

[@loganmedia4401]

@@dan_kay But the cheapest one is rubbish. Sure its fine if you're just doing some very basic things, but then any Windows laptop half the price, possibly less, will do the same and it also just works. In fact any prebuilt system will come with all the necessary drivers installed and software that keeps it updated. Also when MacOS goes wrong, and it does all the time, you're still going to need technical knowledge and research to figure it out. Or you travel to an Apple Store and wait for someone there to try to figure it out for you.

[@soundmanlab659]

Now that new m4 mac mini is here, would you recommend that for audio production and recordings?? Love your videos glenn

[@carlhardwickofficial]

Former Windows fanboi here (Since 3.1). Win10 pushed me to MacOS when its secure boot/UEFI "feature" made it difficult to dual boot Linux and, more importantly, would instantly re-boot during forced updates. I discovered Macs handle audio WAY more efficiently and allow multiple audio devices to run simultaneously. I've been on Macs since and haven't looked back. It's just superior.

[@Htbaa]

For me it was Windows 11 demanding you have that security chip (TPM?). My hardware was still fine but obsolete for Windows 11. So that’s when I started to look at Apple. Got a MBP M1 first, got used to it, started using it as my daily driver. Noticed the extreme speed difference and as I liked MacOS just fine decided to go all in. Bought a Mac Studio M1 Max and overall it’s been great. Did at one point buy a small mini PC to mount behind a monitor to still have a dedicated Windows 11 system.

[@steve_video]

@@Htbaa With the (completely legal) Rufus installer maker, it's 3 clicks to disable extra w11 requirements like TPM

[@Htbaa]

@@steve_video could be but I don’t like to mess with that kind of stuff. Need to make a living with these devices.

[@loganmedia4401]

Windows always asks me about updates. I can have it reboot at a time that suits me.

[@witchinghourblackmetal]

Glenn, what do you think about using time-dynamic EQ and also stereo EQ? i’m not sure if these are the norm already but i can see the benefits, since the frequencies of a track are always changing and the track placement may not always be in the center, using a static eq might not be optimal. But i’m a beginner so i dont know for sure

[@toxicStudios21]

I'm a windows user, but I will agree the updating part does get really annoying. I use my pc a lot more this time of year so I can keep up with it better, but as the weather gets nicer I tend to not use it as much so when I do decide to sit down and play for a bit my computer needs an update and I lose my motivation to play as I wait for it to finish.

[@needsLITHIUM]

and the worst part is, so many plugins require Ubisoft levels of always online fuckery with their DRM. So if you want your plugins to work, you have to be online, but if you want the OS to work, you have to be offline/airgapped. What. The. FUCK. I have half a mind sometimes to configure my router to block all traffic to Microsoft servers, but then if I actually NEED an update for a security patch, I won't get one unless I disable that blacklist... UGH this is why I use Linux, and when I do use Windows, I avoid the always online DRM plugins. I like when my plugins only need to connect to verify my purchase once, and then after that, the DRM shuts up and gets out of my way.

[@loganmedia4401]

You set your Windows to do updates outside of the hours you're likely to need it. MacOS does not eliminate the need for updates. Neither can you use your computer while it is updating.

[@needsLITHIUM]

@@loganmedia4401 the problem is I have insomnia and a haphazard work schedule where I don't have set times I'm using it. I need a machine where I can completely control when updates are applied, and the system has to be configured for auto updates, or the updating itself won't interrupt my work - Linux meets both requirements. Obviously, Mac OS has updates, both in larger releases and point releases/intermediary patches. Mac gives you more control over updates, to a point security patches still release for older versions up to a point, unlike Windows which has a slower release cycle for major version updates, and likes to sunset it's older releases relatively quickly, and entirely. At least with Linux you can update in place and OS updates are free as long as you're not using a paid distro, and even then, most paid distros the payment is optional and just gets you new releases sooner, and maybe some pro tech support.

[@Smung]

14:30 Personally i use firefox, but as I understand, people tend to have technical issues using it. I havent had any issues yet

[@AnthonyVolpe]

4:59 Computers were meant to make life easier. Period. Full stop. If you’re repairing or rebuilding your computer instead of using it, it’s not serving its purpose. If it slows down, crashes, or bluescreens instead of doing the tasks you need it to do, it’s not serving its purpose either. That’s why Glenn and I use Macs for music work. Hell, I’m still using a 2018 Intel Mac Mini and it still crushes it.

[@mk7073]

PC/Windows users now have the option of getting a Windows laptop based on the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite CPU. This is ARM-based like the Mac M1-4 and offers the same advantages of power efficiency and speed. Stability is said to be excellent. A beta build of Reaper is available for it though plug-in makers may take a little time to release ARM64 binaries. Choice of platform is possibly going to be of less importance in future.

[@Psychlist1972]

You can still use your Intel/AMD x64 plugins on Snapdragon with REAPER or Cubase/Nuendo. The plugins run under emulation while the DAW is native.

[@richardsp2794]

Man alive, I had 5 years hassle free plug and play recording on Windows. High end specs all round and well maintained. But a year ago I started getting blue screens on startup and now it's 50-50 if it starts trouble free. Even with a fresh installation. I hate the Mac way of forcing you to do things but now audio production is actually starting to be work critical, I'm seriously considering Mac for it. Sorry to say as I moved away from Mac years ago and swore I'd never go back. Glenn's point is right, if it's mission critical Windows remains a liability.

[@EmperorKamikaze]

Sounds like your hard drive is failing

[@CoTeCiOtm]

Yeah, your hardware is failing and you blame it on Windows. At least with a PC you can just replace the component that failed (unless it's a laptop) unlike Macs that you have to pay half of what the machine costed to have someone else do the work for you, and from what we know from Louis Rossmann, official Mac repairs are trash.

[@loganmedia4401]

That is more likely to be hardware failure. MacOS will also go to hell if the hardware is faulty. The software itself is also nowhere near as reliable as Mac fans pretend it is. It's not worse than Windows, but it isn't better either.

[@CoolManOfficial69]

Hey Glenn, what’s your opinion on recording songs on an iPad using GarageBand? I’m a broke high-schooler who just wants to record music 😭

[@Htbaa]

It’s fine. And if you need more there’s also Logic Pro for iPad (assuming your iPad can run it).

[@Tkivo]

Glenn is keeping up with the times by making hate-bait content.

[@CuttingteethConcepts]

The late night, 80's style ad for Element Bass is great. I wish Rhonda Shear was available for you.

[@skewbertoescobaresq2327]

Just going to post this again: The Mac vs Windows argument is the same as the iPhone vs Android argument in that Apple users will take a device that is only available as a high-end device, and compare it to an entry level or (at best) mid level Windows PC or phone. You surprisingly left out the amount of tone wood that Apple uses. Sorry Glen, but this sounds more and more like those Gibson/PRS fanboys slamming non-American made instruments for not having their periptery pick-ups or lack of exotic woods. Your starting point is the most expensive PCs on the market (yes Apple is a personal computer,; a "PC") yet are comparing them to entry level PCs or frankenbuilds (which use a mix of old and new parts). Sounds a lot like the gear snobs who turn up their noses at Harley Bentons because it's not a Fender or Gibson USA. Your personal experiences with PCs are anecdotal evidence and influenced by your past dislikes and frustrations with your own Windows machines. You channel is built on taking down myths created from personal experience vs actual data. The lack of self awareness in this case is hilarious. Love you Glen!

[@dindinbre]

He most likely doesn't know much about hardware and software. You can troubleshoot a Windows PC yourself and fix it, yes it takes time to do that and can be annoying and frustrating, but you at least have an option to do that. Audio recording can be done on whatever PC you want, so if you wanna do recording for living, get a Windows machine, set it up, install everything you need and then unplug it from internet and use just for work. A cheap used Windows desktop computer has enough power to do any kind of audio shit you want.

[@Winter-n7l]

@@dindinbre I learned so much just from building and repairing my desktop's over the years, from a poor kid's high school Frankenstein RAID array and multi-workstation network system for file sharing to a gaming rig built around a 4090 nowadays. I took a few classes but basically I taught myself how a computer works, and my buddies who made beats and did some recording didn't have cash for macs so they made a frankenbuild work with windows back in the day, and they were able to make good cuts and record what they needed. I guess I value the self learning of making a regular desktop work no matter what I had for parts and software (not to mention brainpower and patience) was worth as much as then having an optimally configured system for myself to use till I upgraded down the road.

[@loganmedia4401]

@@dindinbre I'll also say that MacOS does need troubleshooting. I use and have used both systems. My overall experience, going back to the 90s, is that Mac users tend to drastically understate the amount of trouble they run into on a Mac and exaggerate any problems that occur on Windows. There were defects in the 90s Apple operating system that would have driven any Windows user to fits of rage, but the Mac fans were completely blasé about it.

[@dylanfrondle7274]

Currently building a PC but your previous video has me contemplating a Mac Studio build and selling off my PC parts i've bought so far. Should i keep building or scrap and save up for a new Mac?

[@ZacxOff]

One of my favorite parts of my week is watching Glenn lay into his comments sections lmao

[@rockfighter800]

GLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!! I'm looking to get better quality voice audio for streaming and recording. Now, at least for streaming, I thought I could benefit from a hardware preamp, compressor, EQ combination so I could avoid complex audio routing and processing latency in the computer. So I am looking for a good quality mic + (single channel) channel strip hardware combo to put in front of my interface. Got any recommendations for me? I see you use the Lauten Audio LA-320 correct? Are you running it through some of the gems you have in your outboard rack? Love your show, even though I'm a poor windows user, guitarist, own a kemper and QC and mostly swear on digital gear... so fornicate thyself and all the best, from switzerland

[@Bobsyourunclebro]

Dude said "lies for a few dollars." 😂 We're f*ckin' for bucks! 🤘

[@rockmovieswithtyler1989]

I'm curious about your thoughts on the JHS Color Box and whether or not you'd use it or recommend it for metal players who are in a pinch and need a decent pre-amp in general in case for some reason the engineer is pulling bass player moves which is rare I know but sometimes worst-case scenarios abound! 😅 Thanks and have a good day Glenn! 😊

[@andrewanderson1173]

Gotta love when Glenn invalidates someone else's personal experience while only using his personal experience as his own validation. Smooth brain.

[@pb25193]

That's because other ppls personal experiences are actually invalid, they haven't used mac

[@pb25193]

I use both and Windows is cancer

[@atomarerAlf]

I started recording and mixing 3 years ago out of curiosity and mostly because I wanted to produce my band's demos by myself. By now I am also recording other bands, but it is still more of an extended hobby than a profession. So for the most part i rely on used gear and therefor I own an old Tascam 16 channel interface which happens to be my only option for multitrack drum recording. The main issue here is, that support for this interface is discontinued and the latest available drivers are for Windows 10 and the interface doesn't even get recognized by any Linux distribution. But I also never even came across an issue while recording and mixing on Windows that made it necessary to switch operating systems. This is just my own experience and while Windows does work for me this doesn't mean it has to work for everyone else. Soon as I upgrade my setup with an interface that is Linux-compatible I might give Ubuntu Studio a shot again, that's where it all began for me and I still like the idea of open source solutions that get better by the day and yet are absolutely free of charge. In my opinion there is no such thing as "doing it the wrong way" - just use whatever or operating system meets the purpose and keeps you satisfied with your workflow.

[@bettoandrade1044]

Man, I don’t understand why people defend brands so much! It’s not a religion lol

[@nicolaslacrampette6975]

Pc is not a brand though, apple is

[@danbeshai6890]

Hey Glenn, I see you did windows V.S. Mac on band instruments. How about for vocals and/or narrating? Does either one matter? BTW I own Reaper, so I'm new to this and yes I do have audacity. Just wondering what is better for what. Thanks, been watching since stupid musician's texts 3.

[@_uncredited]

Anybody who claims having to spent 'hours messing around with drivers' has never owned a PC. They're just fantasizing and fanboying for Mac.

[@kommunismusarbeiterjonny]

I spent hours messing around with drivers... Although I gotta say never had a problem with rme drivers on windows

[@kevindie]

*_It sounds like you’ve never owned a PC. 🤣_*

[@TheREALJosephTurner]

You must be one of those people he was talking about that chime in before watching the video in it's entirety. He was literally kicking the PC that he owns. So your comment is FALSE.

[@_uncredited]

@@TheREALJosephTurner The comment I am speaking about came towards the end of the video. And kicking a PC is not how you install a driver.

[@skirwan78]

I"ve owned 12 PCs dating back to DOS 5.0 and 386's. I also worked in IT for several years and I'm a programmer and I've run a dozen linux distros. Windows drivers have a very long history of problems. Do your parents know you're on the internet?

[@norwegiansmores811]

When i am asked why i don't use windows i am forced to answer. "i can't RECALL"

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

i wonder why people like glenn talk about computers. as if i was yapping about mixing and saying "this mix is bad, it sounds terrible, you should use soldano over 6505 bla bla bla". thing is windows machines are enough for making music and the fact is most musicians are BROKE and cant afford your "superior" apple products that are outdated 2 years after its release.

[@nicholasmullins3693]

You wonder why people who do their work on computers talk about computers? Do you also wonder why people who work on vehicles talk about vehicles? Outdated in 2 years? He's had his Apple for at least that long and it's still going strong... Maybe longer. Is it possible that you can't accept? Other people have personal experiences that differ from you, the ones that you've read about online and haven't actually experienced yourself?

[@travisspaulding2222]

To be fair, he specifies that this is his job, so he uses Apple. If you're broke, then naturally, you can't afford what most of the professionals use. There's a reason you see touring bands use Soldanos, 6505s, Mesas, Engls, etc, and not Jet City, Valvekings, or Bugeras. Professionals need their shit to work and hold up. People playing at home don't necessarily need that. If you can't afford an SLO100, by all means, use a Jet City. If you can't afford a Mac, then by all means, use a PC. That doesn't change which product is more reliable for professional use. I've had an engineer using PC lose an entire album, and let me tell you, you probably don't even know how pissed I was spending 9 hours in the studio laying down guitar tracks just to have nothing to show for it. Fast forward to last year, my band was recording on PC and kept getting a blue screen of death. Troubleshooting for days, we never found out what went wrong. My other guitarist bought a MAC Studio M2, and the rest of the recording went smoothly. I use PC at home, but I understand that Mac is better for recording. Whether or not I can afford it is irrelevant to the truth.

[@hardwire666too]

​@@travisspaulding2222 This is the first time I've ever seen someone use Bugera and professional in the same sentence where they weren't using Bugera as the bad example. Not my opinion, just the first time.

[@travisspaulding2222]

@@hardwire666too Well, it was kind of a bad example. I was saying that there is a reason you don't see professional touring musicians using a Bugera. Amps that are cheaply made tend to go out quickly, especially when it sits in the back of a truck on bumpy rides. Those weakly soldered caps don't hold up over time. They are fine using them at home or for a local band playing out moderately, but road bands need something more reliable when put through the abuse of touring.

[@hardwire666too]

@@travisspaulding2222That makes more sense. However it's a bad example. There's is nothing about a Mac that inherently makes it empirically better than any other computer, at least for Audio. Both can do the same work, and yield the same results. 24bit depth is 24bit depth no matter where you go.

[@wilkinsi]

What specs does your M1 Macbook have Glenn? I have a Mac Studio M2 Max for home, but I need a portable solution as well.

[@Mr.Goldbar]

I would say there's also the thing with budget and the ability to afford yourself two machines. I myself can't afford to have two systems, I need one that works best for everything, both for gaming and for recording, so PC is by far a bo brainer. So far I'm not having any issues with Windows for recording (specifically mine is a Gigabyte prebuilt) and my only blue screen ever was after gaming related experiments with overclocking, so I don't see a reason to switch as far as my situation goes. Maybe later in life if I'd actually have to do huge projects, as so far I have been impressed by Logic Also, I'm much more of a tinkerer and troubleshooter with basically most of my gear, and one of my best friend if an expert PC tech so if I ever have issues I'm not stuck in the ditch. Also what about Linux for recording? That same friend absolutely swears by Linux and even told me all the OSs in many commercial items are Linux based, I'm curious if it's even better than Mac

[@pstudio4096]

Hi Glenn, I have 2 PCs. One for everyday use and one dedicated for recording music. The one with my DAW and interface etc. Is almost never connected to the internet. Do you think this helps? Have a great weekend and hope you had a great Halloween! 🎃

[@funkypigfriday]

I have a 2013 27" imac that I've had since new, it was maxed out with vram etc when I ordered it. A couple of years back I upgraded to an SSD and repaired the stupid plastic washer that holds the screen tilt. The upgrade took a whole day all in, as the screen has to be peeled off and it was a bit of a faff with all the screws and connectors (it's like a French engine bay in there!) The versions of Logic and FCPX are a bit out of date, but it'll basically still eat 4k video effortlessly and is rock solid. I see these machines can be found for a couple of hundred bucks, so if someone isn't scared of the SSD upgrade (re glueing the screen etc) then it's a cheap way in (and that screen is REALLY nice). The downside is that it still works so well and I can't justify buying a new MB air.

[@B.M.Skyforest]

I don't know what some people do with their Windows, but I used Windows only since I was a kid, a never had a problem. I'm recording, mixing, mastering on Windows since 2010, only had a single BSOD back in 2015 I think, on Windows 7, now I'm on Windows 10, no problems. Maybe it is really a miracle or I'm just lucky :)

[@mwmatthews1]

I'm curious, when people say they have all these problems, if they ever look at their start-up folder or check how much software is running in the background for no reason. And they might be letting Windows search for drivers instead of going direct to the official download.

[@jesusrojas9684]

Hi, Glenn. I recently had to return a brand new HP Victus Gaming laptop because apparently, there was "no hard disk installed" even though it was working fine at first. Soild point to your favor!! BTW, I'm planning to change the speaker on my behringer gmx212 v-tone with bugera speakers for the mojotone bv25m, I want to know your opinion, greetings from LA!! 🤘😎

[@loganmedia4401]

Not really since Apple computers have failures too. The big difference with a Windows laptop though is that even if it was out of warranty you could just pop it open and install a new drive to replace the failed one. If it is a modern Mac laptop then it is basically dead once the drive goes. You might be able to get it repaired by Apple, but that will be very expensive and you'll have to wait.