Speedrunners have Completely DESTROYED Shadow Generations

[@vi6ddarkking]

I accidentally went out of bounds in The ARK act 2 with the Doom Wings and it seems that there were no kill plains because I just kept falling.

[@DawnSRC]

you probably avoided them all somehow haha

[@MarioTainaka]

I'm sorry, but I'm calling it Chaos Airlines

[@famaki8072]

Thank you for choosing Chaos Airlines ! Remember to faster your boost gauge at all times and we wish you an ultimate flight !

[@isplat927]

"Spear" it Airlines.

[@jimirjuf]

Don’t be That what it called

[@BenjaminBroom-n4r]

Agreed

[@salmankhayat7573]

This

[@Verna-g8l]

4:33 Close enough, welcome back Crazy Gadget Skip and Final Rush Skip

[@stardust-reverie]

i was thinking of the loop in pyramid cave hahahahahah

[@liamdell6319]

Still need to find a new Crazy Gadget Skip Skip

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

Seeing the freaking _yoinky sploinky_ become a name for speedrun tech is a pleasant surprise for my Xenoblade brainrot.

[@kafkacrow6727]

"Reyn! Hit that yoinky sploinky, please!" "Oh yeah, baby! Chaos Control!" "Reyn, you're an ultimate lifeform saver."

[@PhirePhlame]

You can get Chaos Control capsules during Chaos Control, and it's true that the capsule won't actually "pop" until it ends since it's frozen too. I guess that capsule glitch is the game giving you the meter, and the instant activation causing the capsule to trigger again since I guess it doesn't _quite_ instantly clear away the capsule. Kind of a guaranteed "frame-perfect" dupe, if you will.

[@DawnSRC]

Yeah honestly that’s a good explanation of it

[@ExceedRed]

4:19 "SHADOW hit that yoinky sploinky! _PLEASE!_ "

[@tristanbowles7258]

I’m almost certain this has already been found, but I discovered that if you boost the moment Shadow touches water, he and his manta ray will get insane speed through the water. I was doing the kingdom valley challenge and went so fast I went through the bombs.

[@DawnSRC]

yeah this boost is so awesome! its not really something the game teaches you but its super nice once you know it

[@Charisonic_558]

I've figured that out too. Another cool trick is that if you jump and press R1 or L1 (I'm on playstation) to do the spin attack, you can essentially triple your airtime

[@ShadeVortex]

I like to call it Chaos Dabbing because that's what it looks like Shadow is doing while he spams Chaos Spear.

[@DawnSRC]

He kinda is lmao

[@blankedout6966]

4:12 the game is so good that even celebrities like Gordon Ramsay are playing it

[@ghhn4505]

>Spearmaxxing Found what I'm calling it

[@luigines6457]

This is really the perfect combination of the speed from the Boost Formula and the "break me, I dare you" gameplay style of the Adventure games.

[@lucariotrainer16]

I'm convinced the Chaos Spear tech is completely intentional from the devs. Sonic Team embraces the Speedrunning community (for obvious reasons) and even made the Homing Dash an official, hidden ability in Sonic Frontiers as they kept it in during development

[@DawnSRC]

Yeah I’m 50/50 on it because they patched the Homing Dash out of this game but the Spear Tech is really cool so I hope they do something similar and make it official

[@shiranui4918]

It IS intentional. Because several alternatives routes are straight up impossible to reach without using Chaos Spear : In Radical Highway Act 2, if you choose a non Black Wing run, you can skip an entire phase of the level using it, and there is a platform conveniently placed in the middle of the air so you can land a foot and continue. The Space Ark Act 1, right at the beginning instead of taking the green wall or attacking the meteors on the side, you can straight up jump into the void and using chaos spear to reach the 3 platforms, by pure chance, placed there. In Kingdom Heights, you need it to skip all the bald eagle phases and the combat phase in the church. You send the black doom mob on the side, then fly with chaos spear, and reach the eagle directly. And several examples. Out of the strategies players discovered, some routes are clearly made for it by design.

[@ethanmontgomery6132]

​​@@DawnSRCTo be fair on the homing dash, I don't think that was an intentional attempt to patch it, but rather a consequence of having Shadow teleport straight to the enemy instead of just flying at them like Sonic does.

[@DawnSRC]

​@@ethanmontgomery6132 when you homing attack stuff like a balloon or spring, shadow still has a normal homing attack and that doesn't work. trust me, it was the first thing I tried lol

[@Dots988]

Its important to note that capsule glitch actually can have two different ways of being utilized that is dependent on how you hit the capsule. When you run into it, you can get an entire two chaos controls. BUT, homing attacking the capsule will actually give you one partial charged chaos control along with one full one due to how you get chaos energy in this game. See when you homing attack an enemy, chaos energy will actually leave the enemy prior to chaos control because of the lag inbetween inputs, meanwhile when you are running, because there is no delay on when you get chaos control, the energy that comes out of the capsule actually freezes before entering you. Because of this, when you chaos control a capsule while homing attacking, the energy that comes out will be from the first few bits but the rest of the chaos energy will come after you chaos controlled since you froze it before all of the energy could be loaded in.

[@iceheart_115]

Thanks for the explanation! I knew something was weird when I was trying it but couldn't ever figure out what and it was painfully annoying. 😅

[@ShattertheYThog]

I shall call the chaos spear tech The Chaos Launch

[@DawnSRC]

the your choice option lmao lets go

[@idosarts_and_krafts]

Chaos launcher also fits personally

[@Need_RnR]

*_*Chaos_*_ skipping_

[@A-WildCard]

"Spair" (Spear + Air)

[@SPEEDYDIM2]

Oh the speedrunning community how i love the tech you all discover

[@DawnSRC]

they're just too quick with it

[@TheOmegaRiddler]

and how they name it.

[@crynosinso8324]

I like Spear Glide because it's literally the most fitting name and when I think about the name without thinking of this tech, I think of Shadow standing on a Chaos Spear as it soars through the sky, like Mercenary Tao did in that one episode of the original DB with a tree log.

[@cloin1955]

I can’t believe I’ve just actually laughed at “spearmaxxing”

[@timothyward1122]

You did such a great job at respecting the work put into making a genuinely good Sonic game while having fun with all the things you can do with it, i loved this video!

[@DrRank]

Small note for the Rail Canyon skip: it's useless in a full game run, since you don't get the Shadow Emblem from attacking the Doom's Eye, and you need all three Emblems to fully awaken Black Moon.

[@s.proppino]

tech's sick, imma start using it

[@DawnSRC]

its honestly so fun

[@s.proppino]

@DawnSRC i'm starting to think it'll end up like Frontiers, i unlearn how to play without tech (you literally taught me how to hit the Griddy)

[@DoctorRose]

People in the speedrunning community call the spear spam "spear gliding", for the record.

[@DawnSRC]

Ok but people in the Speedrun community call it Spearmaxxing too that’s why I brought it up

[@nelsonvillegas3859]

I'm calling it Spearmaxxing

[@DoctorRose]

@@DawnSRC In my experience, it's more commonly known as spear gliding.

[@Sholver]

@@nelsonvillegas3859never again

[@raulbognar1584]

For the record 🤓☝️

[@Mork_Remus]

In Memory of the Hedgehog Space Program I will deem the Chaos Spear tech the CSP

[@Super_Cinder.Inferno]

I Expected A Few More, Cause LOOK HOW FAST HIT AND RUN WAS FOUND AND EVOLVED!

[@Second_Library_of_Alexandria]

"Shadow Step"

[@DawnSRC]

Ooooooh I like that

[@WykydSpaceCat]

Good video and smooth voice, subbed! You'll be at 20k in no time

[@SavacGaming]

My favorite part about chaos control is that it actually stops the clock for 6 seconds because of... reasons?

[@justasinglesummon3912]

It actually makes more sense the clock stops because time itself is stopped

[@Auricalios]

Because it stops time....

[@CBabb]

@@Auricaliosnew gens man 🙄

[@rejectscorner9939]

Reasons? You know chaos control STOPS TIME right? Lol

[@matthewcorrie3324]

None of these replies actually read the comment

[@pixelpulse11111]

This game is so awesome. Im doing a series on it and im enjoying every moment. great video btw

[@DawnSRC]

Yeah I absolutely love this game. One of the best games in the series

[@pixelpulse11111]

@DawnSRC Totally. For me it's only behind adventure 1, adventure 2 and Unleashed.

[@ShibuyasBeat]

This vid's gonna do numbers

[@DawnSRC]

Lets gooooooo

[@Sparklespeed]

I loooove sonic speedrunners and the cool stuff they come up with. It's amazing to watch.

[@Emerldd]

Spearmaxxing till the day I die babyyyyy 😤😤😤

[@TheWitheredSoul]

I couldn't keep my composure hearing yoinky sploinky. What a great name it is

[@venosho2167]

I like the name "spear boost cancelling" even if it might not make much sense

[@aultra-magawhostandsagains7974]

You mentioned SA2. In that game in Final Rush,Shadow used Chaos Spear and moved with momentum while doing so maintaining his speed. I really don’t think it as a glitch as more of a callback,and I love this ability. What is sad is it took us over 20 years to play with all of Shadows abilities. Then again I think he had the chaos spear in SA3 AKA S06,but I remember it was heavily nerfed disappointing the speedrunning community.

[@bucketbutters866]

What are you talking about Shadow doesn't use chaos spear in SA2 (in gameplay at least)

[@aultra-magawhostandsagains7974]

@ Yes exactly and he moved while doing so,giving my point it’s a callback.

[@bucketbutters866]

@@aultra-magawhostandsagains7974 I presume you're referring to the second shadow fight where he uses it or an attack that looks similar (though I forgot about the multiplayer mode in SA2 so maybe he can use it there)

[@GameGod77]

4:19 Reyn! Hit that YOinKY SPloinKY... Please!

[@whodistoodis]

I just call it Spear-Boosting, and is one of the first times I've found a speedrunning trick completely independently. Feels kinda nice. As for the CC Capsules, I feel like its intentional design. If you just attack a capsule any time while in CC, it won't break until time resumes, giving you another full bar of CC as soon as the previous one ends, regardless of when you hit it. Either way, I'm so happy to see Shadow Generations recieved well, and by precious childhood franchise back on its feet.

[@justasinglesummon3912]

Great video, I’m having so much fun with this game and some of it’s tech.

[@Axxidous]

Also you have to be careful flying out of bounds. My wife kept trying to fly out of bounds with SA2 logic and was pissed that it always killed her. I just found it ironic everyone talks about how much freedom there is to move around but she said she felt very limited with little freedom because she kept dying for not sticking to the path. lol

[@AquaVerve]

yoinky sploinky is something i garuntee only speedrunners have tried

[@NongIng]

Spearmaxing is appropriate Keeping speed maxed with spears

[@DawnSRC]

It’s actually a funny and fitting name lol

[@NongIng]

@ ...I feel like I complete missed what the inside joke was

[@okeefeeo]

I’m glad no one has called it Spear Chucking yet. . .

[@mimictear6788]

I'm calling the Chaos Spear thing 'Spear Step'.

[@ToluwanimiAdeleke]

As a 14 year old I never thought speed runners would speed run in a sonic game .

[@CassiusStelar]

They really called it the Yoinky Sploinky huh...

[@DawnSRC]

the speedrunning community has amazing naming conventions

[@garf7298]

Spear surfing and spearmaxxinng are definitely the best

[@Cyanchicken1]

There is also a tech like the spears by boosting immediately jumping and then holding down the quickstep. You can skip even earlier in Kingdom Valley Act 1with this.

[@Orange_Swirl]

I'm calling it the Sp-Air Dash.

[@mysteryperson1958]

The spear glide helped me with radical highway no doom wings S ranks

[@VGam3mast3r]

I for one want the Chaos Griddy to be the official name. *behold the ultimate griddy*

[@DawnSRC]

THE POWER OF THE ULTIMATE GRIDDY

[@Crow_Rising]

I'd call the Chaos Spear tech "Speardashing" because you mash it similar to revving up a spindash.

[@Throwingwater42]

spear gliding looks so cool

[@JP54704]

Finally, Shadow the Hedgehog 2

[@1DAR26]

SpearDarting is what I call it

[@NotTheWheel]

Spear glide sounds coolest.

[@indominusrex5510]

I would call the first trick: Spear Bombardement

[@MateoMata-64]

How do I submit a recording of a glitch I found to the community. In Rail Canyon Act 1 with the Doom Wings, I boosted to a certain area and went upwards. I call it "Doom Wing Ascend". How do I submit this recording (It was on Xbox Series X, btw)

[@kujo4568]

Chaos Dash🗣️💯

[@DawnSRC]

Oooh that sounds nice

[@hoplabobla]

4:37 😮

[@seto_kaiba_]

This is why Shadow hates this radical left wing trend of "speedrunning"

[@CFodd01]

1:38 I've been calling it spear surfing, can't pull it off very well (hardly at all) but yeah

[@violetpurplegirlvio1223]

i tried it myself..no clue how that even works.

[@Darkdj2874]

Chaos Speed

[@MrFusion]

I think the biggest problem with the game is how the air speed is horrible compared to Sonic Generations, and then it gets worse with the spear spamming. It's really cool seeing some of the techs but I don’t enjoy running it

[@Axxidous]

Oh I thought Spear Dash was the popular name.

[@Phantom_Buggo]

Yoinky sploinky my beloved (when i get this game i am definitely trying it even if im not a speedrunner)

[@BobFauci]

While some glitches/bugs that are game-breaking end up being awful, like Zelda's SRM, but things like the Spear Tech in this game is the epitome of "It's not a bug, it's a feature." It is cool, useful, fun and doesn't break things enough to be obnoxious. Something I hope doesn't get patched out.

[@SuperFusionAJ93]

Chaos Spear Plink Dashing

[@AshyMuted]

I really wish the PS5 version of the game had full button remapping. Spear gliding seems so fun, but being forced to use triangle makes it basically impossible from what I've tried.

[@MOD_UE_Amor_Aswell]

I would Call the spear tech midair-spear-speeding or MSS for Short

[@DawnSRC]

It’s a little complicated but I do like the Acronym

[@MOD_UE_Amor_Aswell]

@@DawnSRCthat is correct, but have you ever Seen a name of a glitch or Tech that isnt complicated?

[@melodycox3711]

I'd call it chaos Speedrun

[@STULF20X6]

SPEAR SURFING

[@DawnSRC]

Ooooh I like that one!

[@RayNheartZ.]

spear gliding my beloved

[@robloxianflexgod347]

Imma say it now before anyone else because I was and still am a trash Apex movement player. Mousewheel for Spearmaxxing. And I geniuely think you can use both roller and mouse to absolutely break the game. Scoll wheel up and down for jump and spearmaxxing. Right click for slide/goud slam. Left for chaos control. Left hand on controller for bumpers/triggers and slides and movement while mouse controls camera.

[@DawnSRC]

not a bad idea but spamming it doesnt really make you go any faster so it might actually make it harder to control

[@robloxianflexgod347]

@@DawnSRC It's less about spamming and more about comfortability and longevity but I might be wrong.

[@JeffJohn-i7t]

no M/D speed😭 my precious

[@GawainW]

If Sonic Team were to ever nerf Spear Gliding, I hope they can make a compromise and adjust air deceleration after boosting. It's why people have been abusing that tech in the first place. Either way, the technique looks visually ridiculous. 😅

[@tardissins7512]

Honestly feels like this (the spear spam) should be patched out and replaced with normal toggle-able momentum conservation for the sake of casual accessibility

[@ghostgauntlet2746]

How do you change the controls for shadow generations? (Not as in normal to legacy, but as in customizing and remapping the controls one by one)

[@DawnSRC]

I’m not sure if it’s on everything but I know on PC you can choose a custom setting and change everything from there

[@joshuaburnett2634]

Spear Speed. I know it's probably not exactly accurate since you don't increase your speed but you don't lose your speed either...

[@dwaynetherockhardjohnson1712]

The Yioinky Sploinky 😍

[@DawnSRC]

Best skip name good stuff lmao

[@mikdan8813]

THE CHAOS GRIDDY

[@franklinbadge1215]

The chaos spear exploit is the kind of oversight that would be easy to patch out, but like... why would you?

[@supermario863]

please sega do not patch this stuff

[@DawnSRC]

PLEASE SEGA leave it!!!

[@SuperPlushTelevision]

Calling the chaos spear tech “spear spamming”

[@dwaitley24]

I SEE DAWNSR ON MY TIMELINE I CLICK SO FAST

[@SupremeSR]

I just got Shadow generations 3 days ago… I need to try the ultimate spear hack

[@poorsoul8492]

It wasn’t in just one week. There were a lot of early adopters like me myself

[@DawnSRC]

Everything I showed was found within a week of the early release :) Video took a little longer to make

[@Rashed1255]

I hope they don’t go & start patching like they patched a bunch of things in frontiers.

[@DawnSRC]

Please Sega leave it 😭

[@TonysGameLounge]

THE CHAOS GRIDDY IS REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Eriorguez]

Yet another reminder that Sonic is meant to have high air speed, no matter what is intended with boost gameplay.

[@Velstrazo]

'Spliding' you should call it Spliding

[@betlek]

5:32 I know what you mean but super shadow already exists

[@DawnSRC]

Yeah, it’s honestly interesting we didn’t get Super Shadow at all in this game.

[@thephantazm5139]

Chaos griddy

[@BritBox777]

Is the sidestep spam still a tactic, or did that not end up going anywhere?

[@PokekaiPJNew]

IT’S BEEN A WEEK, HOW?!

[@jackytale7405]

I want to learn to speed run this game so bad but I don’t have anything to record runs (ps5) to submit any times

[@mrbubbles6468]

Chaos Gliding

[@TheActionTourist]

I'm hoping for a Sonic Fighters remaster

[@DawnSRC]

Ooh that would be cool honestly.

[@Goras147]

Spearmaxxing got a chuckle out of me, good one

[@DawnSRC]

It’s actually such a deceptively good name lmao

[@MontyMoleLoreMaster]

I am curious if these glitches could help with pacifist runs lol?

[@hypedup8081]

me personally im calling the spear tech lunchly skip

[@Pokesonicfan99]

Wait so does the yoinky only work on new save?

[@darkshotmk3]

Chaos javelin technique Cause your using spear but using it to go long distance like javelin

[@UltraZelda64]

So... people have found countless ways to cheat in a popular, highly-anticipated game only one week after release. For some reason I am not the least bit surprised. This is exactly why I think *any* online aspect of gaming as a downright joke, all the way down to something as seemingly simple as high score/time leaderboards. There are a ton of cheap hacks like Billy Mitchell in the world and online leaderboards are full of their trash runs.

[@DawnSRC]

ok