DIY WELDING OUTLET.....Step By Step Installation By An Electrician

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

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[@thomasbonse]

I'm very disappointed. Current code requires the use of a GFCI breaker for all outlets in a garage, including 240v. Yes you're using it as a shop, but the space would still be defined as a garage for code purposes. You also made no mention of using a torque wrench/driver for the terminal screws. Neither of these would've made an appreciable difference in the video length.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@thomasbonse its very unlikely anyone is going to install a gfci for a welding outlet including myself. They only way would be if its new construction and its getting inspected. It never used to be that way and is totally unnecessary. And ive never used a torque wrench on a residential breaker. In a commercial MDP, yes definitely . I also mentioned to follow all local code requirements. Get real with what your nitpicking my video about. Its residential and you know it was a clean install.

[@thomasbonse]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC You are the one presenting yourself as a master electrician on an otherwise instructional video for DIYers. I pointed these specific issues out because there's good safety reasons for both and was part of the reason they made it into recent editions of NFPA 70. Too many DIYers don't know the relevant codes or even how to find the right information, so end up doing their project unsafely. I'm not pointing these issues out to nitpick, but rather because some of your audience may have only seen this video before they go off and try it themselves.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@thomasbonse a “master electrician” is a non union foreman. I would never call myself a “master electrician”. I have been a union electrician for 20 years and been exposed to every aspect of electrical work. The arc fault breakers were a joke and the gfi on a welding outlet is a joke. Its just insurance companies trying to cover there ass. Nothing i presented in this video was unsafe. Are they making people go back and install gfci’s on welding outlets when it wasnt code just a short time ago? Whos enforcing that? If you dont agree with my install you are welcome to make your own video.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@thomasbonse to be clear, i live in Indiana which has not adopted the new code requirements. Were still operating from the 2008 code. So nothing i did in my video was a code violation. Thats why i said follow your local code requirements If you want to get technical about it. Even if we were i still wouldn’t put it on a gfi.

[@TheDesertRat31]

The deeper the box, the better... words to live by, my friend. Words to live by.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Hah! I guess thats one way to look at it.

[@fidenciorojas7646]

My native brother that was funny.... the deeper the box ... lol ... 😂😅

[@frenchonion4595]

But not wetter "according to electricians"

[@ColdWarVet607]

From a Prior US Navy Nuc Electrician, Nicely Done, Very Nicely Done! A note to those doing this. Before you check the panel de-energized, first use your meter to check it energized. This is not for checking the panel, its for checking your meter so when it shows zero voltage you know its not due to it being broke! I've been lit up by 440v on my Sub, blew a section of skin right off.

[@tiddybagel]

You're telling me a zero contact voltage tester isn't a substitute for a 3 point check? Lol

[@TatumScibetta]

Anyone becoming remotely close to handling a live circuit at my factory is taught and tested on the simple 3-point check for this very reason. Not something to play around with for sure

[@Neufman1]

Very very good comment, excellent advice! I’m an auto technician certified in high voltage, and I always try to emphasize the importance of checking and double checking meters before getting anywhere near the high voltage system.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I have another video from a while back where i explain the 3 point check. Its about fixing loose outlets.

[@edgarbonilla2032]

This is the best how-to video on installing a 240 receptacle. Thanks.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you!

[@BiggusDickus2]

It's a banger. I'm ready to go touch my buss bar just for funzies.

[@GuardianPressureWashing]

Agreed. I watched a whole bunch of other ones and this was by far the most well-informed and clear to follow tutorial.

[@MrElrond330]

Can't thank you enough for just explaining it! I'm installing 40 amp. service for a powder coating oven. I've been talking to electricians I know for a while, and they can't seem to stop overcomplicating it; like starting with Ben Franklin's freaking kite for historical prospective! You told me the wire size I need, the proper way to do the installation and the safety requirements in under 22 minutes, and did it with a little comedy. Again, much thanks and, I'm now a subscriber......... and owe you a beer or 30 if you're ever in the area...

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Glad it was helpful for you buddy! Thanks for the sub and good luck with your project.

[@CascadePacificNW]

I’ve been watching videos on this subject for a few hours, and this is by far the best one I’ve watched. Everything was very easy to understand. Thank you sir.

[@dandan1364]

Love the humor. Thanks for not caring about what people think. And not asking us to “smash the like And subscribe button” (till the very end). Learned a lot!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@gthree0239]

All of the stuff about the mud ring and that tubing to help mount the receptacle flush was very helpful. I’m going to go back and check my welder’s outlet and see if I need to do any of those.

[@elaczi]

Great job! Enjoyed the video and love your sense of humor. 😂

[@SeanLeonDrumz]

As a JW myself, this is a great video and safe for any competent person to follow. Thanks for sharing.

[@norman311]

Thanks Kyle. I already knew the basics on how to install a welding outlet but it's super helpful to see a pro do it first.

[@NathanHarrison7]

Dude is funny. And informative. Subscribed. Sure is comfortable in that hot box. Scary.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks Nathan!

[@NathanHarrison7]

I’m a new electrical DIY… Home Remodel. I’m just doing all the cold work. Electrician friend doing all the hot stuff. At this point my palms sweat when I take the panel cover off! Haha.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@NathanHarrison7 sounds like you have a smart plan. I have a couple other electrical diy videos with some good tips. Good luck with your project!

[@Tukn6s]

I've watched a ton of 220v receptacle installs over the years and this one hands down is the best by far..

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks! I appreciate that. I tried to break it down the best i could. Thanks for the comment.

[@SollessGarage]

killed it!@@SpicerDesignsLLC

[@snmrenn]

I am a professional LV contractor. I love the thoroughness of this video. I don’t think you could have done it better! Thank you!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you! I appreciate that.

[@williamschmidt8944]

Most informative video for this install on KZbin. He knows his sh*t! Thanks!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks buddy! Glad it was helpful

[@Microphone73]

I love your sense of humour. Cheers...

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@richardization1]

Great Video, great detail, Funny Humor, Thanks!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you! I appreciate the feedback

[@Bob-le9jd]

Thanks for the great video. I believe this is a sub panel. Would you use the same wiring on the main panel?

[@JMLUSA1]

OUTSTANDING Video! I love the attention to detail. I also enjoyed your NO BS, straight forward and CLEARLY understandable process description. Thanks !

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you! Glad you liked it.

[@georgef1176]

Thanks man! Definitely one of the best 240v videos on KZbin. You should do a video on 3 phase install.

[@estynusca4006]

Love the video! Little bit of humor but full mention of safety which is always required!

[@ivanrodriguez8988]

Hi, it's super helpful to see a pro do it first.

[@MrGascon26]

Great information. No BS. I like the detail and pro tips

[@NomadSaga]

You don’t miss anything! You answered all the questions that I didn’t get on any other video in weeks. Now, just now, I know the way I am going to install my 6-50 and it is going to be correct. Thanks!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thats great! Glad it was helpful and good luck with your project.

[@NomadSaga]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC Thanks for doing what you do! I have one question I can’t find not related to this exactly but maybe you know. The info on my welder says “Insurge amps”: 31A. Is that how many amps it takes before damaging the welder? And will a 30A breaker still be good? Operating amps is 25A.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@NomadSaga thats just the inrush current when you start welding. It will spike momentarily and then settle to the operating current. Rule of thumb is to size you overcurrent protection/ breaker at 125% of the full load amps. Id recommend a 40 amp breaker. The manual should spec out the breaker sizing too.

[@NomadSaga]

Ok thank you very much I’ll be hooking it up this weekend 👍🏻. I’m really enjoying your content.

[@Bearking-ij6qe]

This was the best how to on this I’ve seen on you tube! You nailed this dude good job!!!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks! I appreciate that. Hope it was helpful for you

[@phendrix9476]

Just installed the same outlet for my welder & this was invaluable. FWIW, your mom told me she’s always proud of you……😂 Fellow Union craftsman here btw. Appreciate your skills brother

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Glad it was helpful

[@robertwikeljr-1522]

Really nice the way wires (under panel cover) were also labeled to make IDing each wire later much easier [don't have to keep going back to cover panel for referance].

[@jimkonrad2528]

Great video! I bought a Lincoln Power Mig 210 and need 240V in my garage. Very helpful video! I feel relieved to know that other people also provide colorful commentary while working! Lol😂

[@michaelknight9918]

This was so nicely done, straight to the point and detailed. Unfortunately me and anything with electrical current have never mixed so i definitely wouldn't trust myself doing something like this but the video was a 10/10 😁😁😁💥💥💥 ⚡⚡⚡⚡

[@jb510]

Refreshing to see an someone actually show how to do electrical work. I need to do almost exactly the same (240v welder recept next to garage sub-panel).

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@jb510 thank you!

[@johnrosas2606]

Great how to video. Well explained. Thank you !

[@Adri_57]

Your sense of humor made the video! Just subscribed.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Hah. Thats great! Glad you think im funny, my wife doesnt.

[@christosvolikakis1523]

Absolute perfect video for those of us looking too, add a welding plug to our garage, or to double check the work of our general or subcontractors!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you! Glad it was helpful. Thanks for the comment Chris

[@paulyedinak2183]

Thanks for explaining about the different types of receptacle boxes. Wasn’t sure what to use🤔, now I know.

[@josephtischler9556]

Subscribed! Needed this how to video and liked your style. Keep up the solid work.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you!

[@Neutril]

I’m about to build a shop. This channel is about to be so helpful.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Perfect! Congrats on the new shop

[@Karootie]

Excellent instruction ! I do love your use of the " electrician"s" hammer when securing the lock ring in the panel and your choice of cable cutting tools!! ! Love it! 😁

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you!

[@mikefixesit]

Great video...especially love the vertical orientation of the plate screws...true pro!

[@OneEyeCustoms]

I need to know more about the red black alternation. Not heard that before.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Whats your question Doug?

[@OneEyeCustoms]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC is that only for 240v panels? Because a panel with 120v mixed in will screw that up???

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Im not following. You might have to call me on this one. Ill have to unblock you.

[@thesobersailor308]

Super helpful, best video out there on the subject.

[@mrfixit7743]

Good content. I enjoy the commentary....Sounds just like me, when i work in the shop or on wiring! LoL .

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you! Ya thats usually how it goes while working on projects. Lots of conversation with myself. Pretty relatable

[@dawsmik]

Excellent tutorial. Thank you.

[@saranjesse23]

Very nicely done! Very informative on why and why not. very precise on how to. Thank you.

[@prow6586]

Thanks-Great Installation instructions with good tips and techniques for the DIYer. 🤠👀🍻

[@graftedin3]

I love the way you trimmed that wire . Good instruction

[@TiK2theToK]

The tubing to make the outlet flush was pretty slick.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

It works really well. Never had it break down over time. Stays nice and solid.

[@bobbyblair6862]

I'm a week out from wiring up my shop. Super helpful vid. Thanks man!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@bobbyblair6862 good luck with your project Bobby!

[@ednowliniii]

Like the trim boards around the panel. Think I’ll borrow that idea. 👍🏼

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I didnt do all that but it looks nice.

[@UnconventionalMetal]

Thanks for this. Ver useful

[@jdc2433]

Big fan - your videos are very informative. Thanks

[@Bob-le9jd]

Thanks for the great video. I believe this is a sub panel. Would you use the same wiring on the main panel? I have a separate ground and neutral bar. (the neutral bar is grounded)…

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

The main panel is typically your first means of disconnect which is where your neutral and ground are bonded. You can do the same install for the outlet in your main or a sub.

[@Bob-le9jd]

Thank you so much. Happy Easter.

[@PackedFunk]

Good Job! Thank You!

[@samdang5246]

Great video. I like the detail and pro tips

[@mxcollin95]

Nice work man! I’d def trust that socket with my welder. Lol It definitely looks like you “know WTF” you’re doing. 🤙

[@bartdaw6681]

Good video, step by step and clear instruction. Nothing is ambiguous.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you! Hope it was helpful

[@rickbradley5085]

Thank you for doing it right. Fixing to start my own build out.

[@Group-Five-Industries]

Great job Sparky!!

[@fidenciorojas7646]

I always like to have a good 8 to 10 inches in the box omg this guy is awesome then we slip the mud ring in😂😅😂

[@BOSS_DOG]

12:02 the amazing moving box!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@BOSS_DOG hah! Your the only one that caught that. Good eye!

[@russguar59]

Found your video because I needed a refresher and it was great. Thx man. Liked and Subbed

[@cchrisfish773]

Could you use the white neutral as ground and not use the bare copper?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

You could if you want but thats specifically what the bare copper is for. You would have to identify the white with green tape though.

[@fidenciorojas7646]

The deeper the box the better lol my friend 😂😂

[@Eddy63]

Excellent little job ... I always ran my screws vertical as well ... Thx

[@rogerlehr1176]

I always clock the screws when I rebuild a car carburetor....just for fun, might make the car go faster.

[@AerialLensVideo]

SUPER WELL DONE -- Thanks!

[@jimireland7299]

Finally, an answer to the neutral wire versus ground wire issue, was thinking of using the neutral wire as a ground, taping the panel end green, I like your solution best. Many thanks. Now to rip out the blue box…..lol

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Hah! Glad it was helpful and good luck with your project.

[@raysno8367]

Exactly the video I needed

[@paulshannon4576]

I’ve done a fair bit of 120 and I’m getting ready to do the 240 for a welder and plasmas cutter. I’ve done a fair amount of research but a lot of the information is not consistent. Finally a video by an electrician. I don’t like the way I was going to add a second box just for the breakers for the 240 so I ordered a larger box to house all the breakers in the garage. I bought a pair of 30 amp breakers and I’m using 6/3 copper wire.

[@dcgo44r]

You tried a couple times at the beginning but only by the end you succeed, you make laugh.. "see that mom, I did something right". I dont have a welding machine, nor a garage and still find this entertaining and useful! Good job keep at it, you have a sense humor that knows when to get serious and when to joke. Well I don't laughing a lot for anything, so yeah. I enjoyed the clip! 👍

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks for the nice comment. I like to have fun on the channel. Some of those DIY videos can be pretty boring. Glad you got a laugh out of it.

[@robthewaywardwoodworker9956]

I made a cord like that, except mine is 105'. It weighs about 80 lbs, though. It makes work in the yard way easier. Good video.

[@justinobello1378]

Question: is that a specific wire nut for that gauge wire ? Or can you use any nut that will fit on ?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

There are specific wire nuts for different ga wire and theres a limit on how many conductors can be splices too. In this care the wire is not connected at either end so you could use whatever you want. Could tape it instead too.

[@justinobello1378]

Oh ok good to know thank you sir !

[@medicmike4906]

Best 240-volt welding wire install I have seen on KZbin. You explained it well enough for me to understand the Home Depot electrical expert gave me the wrong information. You cannot install 12 gauge wire on a 25 amp breaker. I intended to use 10 gauge but he said not necessary. I subscribed as well.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I appreciate that! Glad it was helpful for you. If you have any questions feel free to ask in the comments or email me.

[@mbrick]

That's not necessarily true. If you are using NM-B, yes due to the 60C derate 25A requires 10ga wire. But if you use individual THHN in a conduit then 12ga is OK. Per Table 310.15(B)(16).

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@mbrick i would still use 10 awg

[@nooneyouknowhere6148]

​@@mbrickhowever code states max of 20A breaker on #12 wire

[@mbrick]

@@nooneyouknowhere6148 is that only for NM-B or all wire types? could you cite the section so I could read up and learn?

[@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369]

Thanks COOP ...

[@moisesabaga9478]

Thankkk you kyle for sharing this very imformative video to us, God bless 🙏

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

No problem! Hope it was helpful to you. Thanks for watching!

[@robletto841]

Well done!!!

[@albertoromo2012]

Thank you so much, this tutorial is exactly what l needed. l subscribed already. from Baja Mexico...

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you! Glad it was helpful

[@walterdowns9012]

I have seen the neutral wire connected to the ground hole on the plug coming from the neutral bar together with the ground wire that was connected to the breaker box

[@streetfit909]

Good Video! Nice job.

[@Michael-w3z4b]

Great video just subscribed. I have a random question what is the max draw of your Hobart welder at it's highest setting?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Im not sure. I can tell you ive never tripped it on a 30 amp breaker. Thats what the manual specs too for the breaker sizing.

[@LivingstonWeldFab]

Great video...I like to use the NEMA L15-30 style in all my welding applications because they make the male and female in a plug setup that is way less bulky for making an extension cord and they are twist lock and hold up so much better than the dryer plugs. Also my shop has 3 phase power so I make sure I always color code my hots so that I can still use the same setup on single phase like off of my gas welders.

[@ericmcniff1]

Thanks for the vid - great for a novice like me. One question, I have seen other vids that use the green ground screw on the back of the outlet for the white wire, and run that to the ground in the box. I noticed you didnt even use the white wire, and you also did not use the green ground screw on the outlet at all. Can you please explain why others would do it the way I explained? Thanks!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

The white wire was just a spare conductor. Just had that cable laying around. I did land the bare conductor on the green ground screw on the device in the video. Maybe it was hard to see. I cant remember. Not sure why people are landing the white wire on the ground screw. Thats not typically done.

[@ericmcniff1]

THANKS! @@SpicerDesignsLLC

[@RuggedFish]

Any advice for putting on out side.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

If you put that outside i would consider using a gfi breaker, which is technically code now. Indiana has not adopted it yet so i can get away without one. But being outside i would recommend that and a weather proof bubble cover. Otherwise the install is the same.

[@kipbreitmeyer8517]

50amp 2 breaker box brought into my shop. Do you have a video on this? Ty.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I dont have any videos for installing a sub panel unfortunately.

[@bloocollah8492]

Good video, pretty detailed and good explanations of materials and how it all works together. Not sure if your AHJ requires nail plates for your conductors when run on the face of the stud, but other than that great work dude!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks. It is a temp setup right now. Its a little different set up than a typical studded structure being its a pole barn. Yes you are correct, it would require nail guards.

[@walterdowns9012]

I hooked up my motorhome up to a 220 outlet by just using the one hot wire and ground on the 220 outlet and by doing that there was no wire on the 110 plug in connected to the ground just the two of them hooked up to power the appliances. And it worked giving me the 30 amps I needed for the motorhome. Even though it was a 50 amp breaker.

[@k6outdoors]

Love the channel man, cheers from a fellow Kyle!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks buddy! Cool name btw

[@ldiazmdiaz]

Hone FC140 welder is a 120 voltage , ...What circuit breaker amperage do I use?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@ldiazmdiaz no clue. Try the manual

[@walterdowns9012]

I'm not sure but is the ground wire in the panel box connected to the neutral Bar.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Yes if thats the first means of disconnect where the panel is bonded. Then the neutrals and grounds land on the same buss

[@walterdowns9012]

What I understand about electricity for 110-- you need the power coming from the source and the ground going back to the source that's what the neutral is (going back by cable) but my understanding is you can make it go back to the source by hooking it up to a ground bar into the ground instead of the neutral which also lets it go back to the source.

[@tankerboysabot]

This is a great video, i have one question. I just got the Eastwood TIG and Plasma combo deal, the TIG calls for 23.8 amps and the plasma calls for 44.5 amps.....would I just run a 50 amp?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Rule of thumb for overcurrent protection is 125% of full load amps

[@tankerboysabot]

@SpicerDesignsLLC oh no, not math's!....🤣🤣🤣.....so wait is 50 too big to use on both? I'm confused, do I need a seperate breaker for both?

[@tankerboysabot]

@SpicerDesignsLLC ok so the plasma is 1.25×44.5=55.625, round up to 60 amp? And the TIG welder is 1.25×36.2=45.25 round up to 50 amp?

[@jstjohn11]

Great Video!!

[@stuartkorte1642]

Are you going with surface mounted conduit? If so how will you tie into the flush mount panel?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Im not sure yet. I have a plan to remove some of the wall panels and run pipe inside the walls. If i did surface mount i would probably install a couple chases to a small trough above the panel and then run my conduit out of that.

[@fitnesslibrarian9013]

One thing I’d add is after you screw your connections in, jiggle and wiggle and then give the connections second tightening. Just don’t jiggle and wiggle too much or else you are playing with it.

[@TheNezfamily]

this was a great tutorial, can I replace a extra dryer outlet in garage with a welder outlet

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Its likely you can. Dryers are typically 40-50 amp circuits. You can always downsize the breaker on a larger conductor. Then just replace the receptacle to match the welder.

[@BearOffRoad]

Great video! Do you have a video on the extension cord?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@BearOffRoad thank you! No but i will be making one very soon. Hopefully in a week or two

[@b-ryanistryin]

Definitely the best 50 amp video, and I think I watched them all! Most other videos are using the shielded wire as their neutral, and cutting the ground wire short. What do we say to people doing it like that?

[@aatossalmu1655]

Lookin at you work made me want to go get pint of Sandels.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

What is a pint of sandels?

[@aatossalmu1655]

Best Beer you can find here in Finland.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@aatossalmu1655 hopefully that means i did good. Ill have to try to find some of this Sandels.

[@garciarosa100]

LOL, Funny, well done electrical.

[@parkashland]

Screwdriver! Where'd you get that offset fast spin thing?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I cant remember. I got that a long time ago. You should be able to find them at Home depot in the electrical section. Its a Klein

[@abrahamvaro5482]

Very nice video ,thanks!!

[@ricardofredeluces1187]

Kyle thanks for the showing us on how to install an outlet for electric welding.. I’m planning to install one too. My pro ble is where to buy the outlet as well as the male and female plug couse I’m planning to make an extention cord too.. will you inform me where I can order the things that I need.. more power. Thank you very much..

[@k.lamareyev4418]

Do you have a video on making that extension cord?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I don’t unfortunately. I made that a while back before i was doing youtube.

[@fidenciorojas7646]

My brothers i have to stop my girlfriend looking at me crazy ... my friends this guy made my weekend ...