A2 Motorcycles! Are they "enough"?

[@spicy110]

Heads up I have started a community Facebook group! facebook.com/groups/spicy110 Why not join say Hi and post a pic of your bike!

[@rickymullane9973]

if you want someone to admin on facebook page Im here to help let me no i no you are busy

[@jammiep96]

I'll soon be on an A2 bike, passed my theory this morning! 😊

[@seanblah12]

Congrats!

[@jonathangriffiths2499]

Well done dude

[@stewartnorton6386]

Nice one 👍🏼

[@Adam-ce2fe]

What do you want to get?

[@jammiep96]

Cheers guys, and I wanna get a Ninja ZX-6R hopefully!

[@100racer]

You're expected to ride at the same standard on an A2 test as the A (full) test the only difference is that you do the A2 on a less powerful bike. I can't think of any situation you would use more than 48 bhp on the test. A2 should automatically upgrade to the full licence after a year or two.

[@ChromeFusion]

That was the law before 2013. Except it was 33bhp

[@ArranD1]

The whole system falls apart when you can pass your A2 and not even sit on a bike for 2 years and then go and sit your full unrestricted test, in no way shape or form a better rider. I understand what they are trying with the category’s but the execution is poor

[@harrybyton3639]

It annoys me that I have been driving for 5 years (I know that this is not very long compared to many people), completed my C1 which was 3 days of driving tuition and passed a blue light driving course for work (9-5 Monday to Friday over 4 weeks) yet I can only get the A2 licence because I am 22. Yet somebody who is a couple of years older with no experience what so ever can just do the DAS course and jump on whatever bike they like. I'm not saying that it is unfair but it certainly is not logical. Although the

[@chrishart8548]

I did my test on a 125cc and after 2 years of 33hp I had my full license. That was in 1997 did it on a Honda cb125rs

[@demonbreed131]

Agreed A2 is more than enough power even for heavier bikes that are restricted. It just sucks that its yet another test to do to get to full A Licence. The most fun you can have on bikes is when you have lower bhp that way you can ride them properly and enjoy the roads without doing stupid speeds. Worst thing about most 1000+cc bikes is having to constantly keep your throttle down since 1mm twist is difference between 70 and 100 in almost any gear.

[@lb7304]

You right m8! After A2 you should not have to do another driving test for a bigger bike... that would be the right way

[@robboone3551]

@@lb7304they do it for money

[@losslessification]

Rode a 500f for 11k miles and loads of days out, never got left behind at all on rides out and really was a great lesson in how to ride a 'slow' bike quickly. Im actually really grateful for the lessons it taught me.

[@thomasjanssen1440]

03:30 I love how how you just made fun of all the of people overreacting in those youtube vids. So accurate hahahaha.

[@morganmadden7655]

It’s so true

[@ChipMcCain]

I've held a full licence for 18 years, and I choose to ride a cb500f. Great bike, fast enough to keep out of trouble and pretty agile too. Love it!

[@robinwells8879]

I still love my 125 Varadero but a thousand miles in and I am already considering a big bore conversion. I am however too green to have anything bigger yet because I am still occasionally an inept danger to myself! Part of me (the diesel driver part mainly) does struggle with cruising at 9k revs😳😬😑. I love the 100mpg though as it makes going out for an entirely pointless evening drive guilt free! As a teenager on an SS50 the height of my ambition was a 250 superdream and I still reckoned it is enough for cruising. Incidentally, I am really loving the camaraderie of the bike community with all the nods and waves! Proper heartwarming!

[@paulsheehan2998]

I have my full license and ride a CB500X Awesome bike and more than enough power, decent acceleration, nice cruise and 80mpg

[@ReevyTCG]

Can confirm the CB500X is an excellent bike! I did my mod 1 and 2 on this bike and had no issues with it :)

[@MrCapri78]

I have been riding since 1976 and had all sorts of bikes. Downsized to a 2019 cb500x and a 2019 cbr500r this year. No regrets, plenty fast enough for today’s traffic conditions . Great fun to use all of the power and cheap and reliable. More fun to ride a smaller bike fast.

[@SlotCar2021]

I tried a 390 duke and I can say these A2 bikes are great. When I passed my test it was still 33bhp for 2 years. I got a GSX 600 f and that was super fun as it makes all the power up top in the rev range or you could plod along. I never felt the need to have more power. The problem is as you feel more comfortable with power you want more and more and a lot of people don't have the skill to match a 1000cc. With 125's and smaller bikes you can ride them on the limit which in my opinion is more fun. I no longer ride after a crash but have good memories and I constantly battle with the idea of getting back on.

[@Kodreanu23]

Props for 3:35 talk. Ive seen quite a few videos where bikers are almost seeking for opportunity to bash drivers. On the main topic, spot on!

[@HippoDrones]

I really loved throwing my KTM 390 Duke about, such a fun bike and that was coming from a hypernaked Ducati Streetfighter 1098 among other larger/faster bikes. It was perfectly capable of covering large distances and often did and handled better than a lot of more powerful bikes!

[@BassOutcast]

I've been on a restricted license for almost 4 years now (partially because lessons here in Israel cost quite a bit and I'm in school), and have been riding an old GS500 for about 3 years and over 50K KM. Honestly the only issues I have is that it's a bit cramped for my size (1.88m/6ft2), and chugs oil at high speeds because it's air cooled. Other than that? Enough power for everything I need, and I love the fact you can ride it to the redline on winding roads and still be in control of the bike, and not be scared every time you open the throttle a bit too much. Took a CBR650 for a spin and that thing just felt so relaxed going 130 kph in 4th...man, how fast do you need to push this thing to have fun? In the city it feels like you're not utilizing a quarter of what the bike has to offer, going maybe to 2nd...and that bike has like 90 bhp, can't imagine what 150 bhp must feel like.

[@tatsukishoyo2617]

love the videos, decided to get a bike and put my deposit down on a 125, cant wait to get started

[@spicy110]

Awesome!

[@snowy-the-gamer325]

I have the cb 500 f and recently did a 1000 mile trip and it happily kept up with traffic. cheers Spicy for a awesome vid

[@3nd0fgam3rs]

Just bought one myself can't wait to receive it and ride it

[@snowy-the-gamer325]

@@3nd0fgam3rs awesome enjoy, they are awesome. Be careful on the new tyre's 👍🏽

[@jackdaknife]

People always want more. Grass is greener and such. I have a YBR125 which cruises at 40-60mph, depending wind direction and incline/decline. I always say "wish I had something that would cruise at 80, i'd be set" but I know that like everyone else the honeymoon period will wear off and I'll seek something more powerful. Happened a month after I got my scooter and then shortly after I upgraded to the YBR. My resolution? Just be happy with what you've got, life is a lot better with the bike you got than without one.

[@MrKuerbiskopf96]

48hp is enough for everything except german Autobahn 😄 The thing with the indicator on the lower position is quite handy, you don't have to reach up so far. But it gets funny if you switch bikes with your mates, at every junction you hear a little beep behind you 😄

[@Tonyx.yt.]

high speed on motorcycle is not only pointless but annoying by noise and wind. i cant ride 120-130 more than few minute before wind noise bother me so much

[@morganmitchell4017]

Old comment, but this week I rode to Berlin and back on my CB500F, and it was fine on the Autobahn. I got up to 116mph, and was happily sitting in the overtaking lane most of the time. Just had to move in occasionally when something faster approached from behind. Not going to lie though, I've had the bike three weeks and am absolutely itching for more power.

[@123JPMG321]

I've been riding around on an A2 licence for 4 years now and I'm not too pushed on upgrading because I've never felt I need more power. However I will upgrade my licence before I get another bike so i don't have to worry about the power limit.

[@boiledelephant]

I've had my full license, and a 250cc, for years. I've gone to France and Scotland on it. I've done thousands of motorway miles. My bike has 23bhp. Nuff said.

[@NorthCust]

awesome! I was hoping to do some longer treks on mine and was wondering how it would cope. glad to hear there's other people doing epic runs on little bikes :)

[@flynnfrawley7587]

What bike is it 😊

[@stuartwatt1050]

I’ve been riding nearly 20 years, my last bike was a Ducati 749, lovely bike and plenty fast enough but I just felt it was too much for todays roads, I changed it last year for a Ktm rc390, it’s much more fun, quick enough to get past most cars, I think bravado comes into it with bikers, got to have the biggest, baddest, latest bikes, a2 bikes are more than enough for me 👍🏻

[@killallsuvivors]

Ive been riding around on my A2 cbr500r for 3 years put 30,000 miles on it (massively reduced mileage in the last 15 months as i got a job around the corner from home and got a car at the same time. And I certainly am in no rush to change bikes so im in no rush to upgrade my license A2 has plenty of acceleration and top end speed is enough and the amount of roads you can keep your license on testing top end speed is rapidly reducing anyway

[@BeckiUwU]

I have an A2 licence and for me personally it's not enough. But saying that I have cbr500ra same bike in this video and I've been everywhere on it, and I absolutely love it. Leaves car drivers in the dust and even my friends who all ride bigger bikes love riding mine just because its fun and flickable But yea the horn and indicator thing is stupid

[@ReevyTCG]

Before doing my A2 I was considering just waiting until I'm 24 and doing my A license but all my friends were selling their 125's and going for their tests so I thought I might as well. At first I was like well this is going to suck having a restrictor on a bigger bike but tbh it's more than enough power for me after being on a 125 for 4 years straight. Every time I go out my bike always makes me smile, has enough power to overtake, sit at legal speed limits without the bike sounding like a dying cat 😂 just everything about it makes it worth it, sure it's a pain having to do the same test once you move onto your A license but I personally think it's worth it. In a way I agree with the A2 because it's basically getting you use to the power and working your way up instead of just jumping straight on a bike that you probably cant even handle yet. So yeah the A2 is actually more than enough really, I'm happy with it.

[@DBMUK]

I also agree with your opinion on 125's being all you "need". However, after the first day on my DAS course I realised what I was missing out on after jumping back on my Cbr125r. 🤦‍♂️

[@Itzak15]

100 horsepower is the sweet spot in my experience, but anything above ~20 horses you could get by with just fine

[@100racer]

I'd agree about 100 is the sweet spot enough power to do most things without being intimidating.

[@paulbudford]

For the road 100 to 120 is ideal I think. I have ridden loads of bikes up to 1200+cc and unless you are doing track days 150 plus horse power is just not as much fun. It's human nature to want more though

[@men5crumm]

Too much!

[@mikegregory3293]

It does beg the question, after 2 years on one of these why do you have to do another full test for the A license? Surely just an assessed 'competency' conversion ride should be sufficient!

[@spicy110]

I agree that's all it needs, half day one on one assessment for an upgrade is far more sensible.

[@123JPMG321]

@@spicy110 That's how it is here in ireland. I've already done my driving test with a A2 licence so I don't need to do it again for the A licence. I just need to do a progression module with a driving instructor.

[@Ohmz27]

I got myA2 right after they changed the laws on the 2 year auto unrestriction xD. But yeah makes more sense to do a progression test moving from A to A2, instead of Mod1 & Mod2 again. The main thing that'll probably be different is the handling and power delivery. Mod1 on it's own should show you're competent enough, so Mod2 sholdn't be needed.

[@RetroRider14]

I wish it was that way. I failed my test for my full license while I had my A2, the instructor said i failed I got my license back jumped on my 400cc to ride home. It's no wonder so many young lads are riding round with unrestricted bikes with the kind of tests they have put in place.

[@cameront7710]

@1066Rider only problem with that is if you're 19 and want something a little more powerful than your 125, 5 years is quite the wait for unrestricted!

[@ryanm.191]

I ride out in Norfolk. Everything here is connected by a roads and are spread out. There are no speed cameras on the a roads out here, so people often go 80+. Me on my heavy lexmoto can barely go 55 for long times. All I need is the ability to get to 70 mph which is why I say that maybe not cbt, but definitely mod 1 should allow 250cc I have my theory test in 5 hours, and then if I pass I’ve got to fork up £600 for a2 training, not including the fees for the exams. Mods should be automatic age and experience progression without exams, or optional examinations for getting onto larger cc earlier

[@timothybartley5961]

The annoying part is that when i go to do my A licence is that im going to be taking the exact same test on the exact same bike which just has its throttle limiter turned off. the bike will behave no different than when i did my a2 and i will have learnt nothing new. the only difference will be at full throttle and if your using full throttle in your test your probably doing something wrong.

[@spicy110]

"If your using full throttle in your test your probably doing something wrong" HAHAHAHA Love it 😂

[@Mrflash222006]

460lb and 48bhp is roughly 220 - 230bhp per ton just to give you some idea that’s the same as a stock Focus RS bhp/ton

[@chrishart8548]

Soon runs out of top end though. Power 2 weight only gets you so far.

[@99mrsir]

I currently have a 96 BMW F650 funduro restricted to 33bhp, good enough power to cruise 100 mile commute on the dual carriageway. The only reason I'll upgrade to A is to not loose that 'nippiness' and top end when loaded up with panniers ect

[@UncleBob247]

Just to add, its actually really beneficial to do your tests as opposed to CBTing it until your 24, cause the moment you complete your test whether A1 or A2, your licence date will start from that date, even when you upgrade your licence.

[@CZ350tuner]

"We're going to make the brake lever the clutch and the clutch lever the brake"...... Welcome to the 1970's Morini 3 1/2!!

[@EpicAdamMotovlogs]

This is the 2nd video of yours I've watched today for inspiration for a video I'm making. You have a video for everything Mr 110

[@duckseverywhere8119]

Currently on an A1 Yamaha YZF-R125 15hp - so from my perspective it will be quite the upgrade next year!

[@thevideogamer0mg99]

glad to see someone else with a small sportsbike lol, i currently have a two-stroke derbi gpr125. you have any plans for what you might be getting for a2?

[@duckseverywhere8119]

@@thevideogamer0mg99 I bet that GPR125 goes like stink! Looking at a Ninja 400 or KTM RC390 - depends on what financial situation I'm in at the time as I'm going to University.

[@chrishart8548]

You must wish you had more power on a steep hill sometimes. Or when there's a strong headwind?

[@oldbastardbiker]

Thanks for doing this video, it has answered a lot of questions for my other half, she has not long passed her CBT.

[@montagemixerZz]

Personally I have a SV650s 2008 under an A2 license. 72 bhp I haven’t restricted it but I feel restricting it makes it feel like a target to max it out. Not restricting it, I respect it a hell of a lot more.

[@1960ARC]

I couldn't agree with you more, you're very sensible. I'm an older guy and only did the A1 in 2016. I started doing part time Deliveroo in 2018, year or to later I added Uber and JE. I've ridden 80,000 + miles over a primavera and SH125i. Few weeks ago I did my A2 cause I didn't want to redo the theory test and the rules didn't allow me to go to A, which I think is pathetic. The examiner said I ride really well. I'd like to be a part time bike courier which I think would still require an A licence, even though I think the CB500x or a limited NC750x would do a great job. I think A2 to A should be an automatic upgrade based on riding experience. This has been discussed, perhaps you should consider starting a petition. If your subs sign and you get other channels involved it could happen.

[@Korsfestelse]

I think it depends on bike type too. I'm on an A2 (can upgrade in the new year) and ride a VT750C, which have been detuned in manufacture to meet the 45bhp limit for years. Now, I've done lots of riding on all sorts of roads (long-distance and short commutes) and it's adequate for both, as well as being good for fuel efficiency (60mpg on average for me), but for a cruiser it is underpowered. However, it is hellishly easy to ride, whether you've touched a cruiser before or not. It's a lot less risky to you and your license than, say, a VTX1800 which can beat up even experienced riders. So despite wanting to sit in lower revs, I can sit fully loaded at 80mph with another 15 to go, which isn't bad for a 250kg 750cc underpowered cruiser!

[@pierrederesistance]

I did 990 miles in 4 days from Nottingham to wales, round wales then back to the peak district and home on my cb500f. The bike was perfect for it and I came to it from three years on an sv650. It also averaged 72 mpg and was brilliant fun.

[@ANDY1985UK2011]

Is the mt 03 321cc okay for long distance and long term up to 50k miles?

[@angrykidplays1587]

Got my A2 test(s) booked for the 15th! Pumped to get a bike soon after that, though I'll probably stick to a 125 or 250cc for the fuel economy.

[@jammiep96]

Good luck! Sure you'll smash it!

[@angrykidplays1587]

@@jammiep96 Thanks :D, hopefully not the bike!

[@chrishart8548]

The fuel economy can be worse on a smaller engine if you need to max the power out more. I used to ride with a 125cc I was on the 250cc the 125 was flat out most of the time and the 250 had no trouble keeping up and used less fuel.

[@angrykidplays1587]

@@chrishart8548 Fair enough. 1 year later and I've been on a 125, fuel economy was pretty decent. Worked out to about 3L/100km which isn't bad since I was always starting and stopping in town, and definitely wasn't light on the throttle haha. Sadly it got written off in July when someone rear ended me :(

[@chrishart8548]

@@angrykidplays1587 the worst thing about a 125 is on a windy day you can get blown off the road completely.

[@ctclothbagco]

I actually prefer the indicator switch position on Honda's, I can indicate while controlling the clutch a lot easier

[@shadowwolfXD97]

Love pushing my ninja 300 it's so much more rewarding when you work for the power, although next year I will deffo be doing my A test

[@BikeMates]

I think most people’s beef with the A2 is that you have to do exactly the same test again to qualify to ride a more powerful bike whereas you mentioned you pass your car test and you can drive what you like.

[@spicy110]

Yep your quite right but the fact it is the rules atm and it's a shame these bikes are looked down on by some for the wrong reason.

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

Most A2 Bikes if you really care about being a speed freak so much will squash the standard in speed and agility. Problem is no matter how powerful the bike is the Laws of the road stay the same and Traffic still exists. Iv'e seen a few wanna be racer boys wreck 1000cc bikes because they cared only about speed and thought it would help them on the traffic packed roads. I would Say ride into your own ability with the bike powerful and Licence. But full A class bikes do not thrive well in the modern day traffic. Don't get me wrong the government's retest for a full licence is just to scam money out of people, because if it really was just about safety they would just offer a cheaper course where for a day or two even a week you are taught about the A class and how to handle it kind of like a CBT lesson but for the biggest bikes. But instead they want to charge you twice for two tests each with the chance of failure. People who moan they can't go fast enough on there A2 bikes annoy me sometimes because you have to wonder why they want that speed, i mean the speed limit is 70 and A2 hit that fairly easily plus extra for overtaking and evasive manoeuvres. Most people who moan about the A2 only seem to care about Speed i tend to found which as i said troubles me.

[@Mafia_x_Phantom]

I’m on a 125 currently and plan on doing my A2 when I’m 19 and then I’ll stick at 500cc for the foreseeable future

[@simonj48]

I've had an Hyundai Coupe, and a Kia Sportage, and they've switched the wipers and indicator stalks over. So when you first start driving, you turn right, flick on what is normally the indicator and your dry wipers start to get pulled across the screen. Worst still, becaues the flash is on the wrong side, when you want to flash someone you just end up squirting the window, then indicating right as you try to clear them. lol.

[@karenrhodes5079]

Riding a Honda for the first time, with my fat fingers, I clipped the horn with my thumb tip most of the time. It took me 6 months to get used to that. Swapping the position sounds like a brilliant idea, wish mine had that (not that I need it anymore). But yeah, couldn't agree more. I mean, if you're taking a pillion, and/or you're lugging a ton of gear. Then the bigger the engine, the better. Because it'll cope better with the increased load and drag. But if it's just you, A2 should be plenty, even on long rides tbh. "The love of a bike, comes from the mods. Change the bars, adjust the final drive, add some beef." - Spicy the motorcycle vendor, Diamond city.

[@Trooper125R]

I'm on a 100bhp bike now and I still don't feel like my A2 bike was slow by any means. It was an ER5 and if anything it was more grunty than my hornet in the lower revs, it had a good amount of kick to it. Pulled like an absolute train, it just didn't have that high RPM rush of a more powerful i4 bike, it died off after about 70-80mph

[@seanblah12]

I just got my 1200 back on the road yesterday after a year of riding my 125 exclusively..... And it's TOO powerful, I mean I love it, and I'm keeping it, but for everyday its just a bit much. I'd love a 5-700cc bike for the everyday stuff plus a bit of fun.

[@HakanKoseoglu]

I've got an 26 year old K1100LT, having 100hp. It's perfect. I guess most of the time I'm using less than half of the power it's still got. I've also got an 600cc Bandit, not an A2 bike but can easily be restricted, for its price bucket it's got Ferrari beating power and 0-60 stats, and it can get me from 0 to "you're banned for a year" speeds within 20 seconds or less. I've also got an XTZ660, which is max 48hp, and it can go anywhere, its power is exactly where you want it to be. Power is overrated. How you ride is what matters...

[@NightEye87]

My wife rides a CB500X and I love it! The torque is amazing from that little two cilinder engine, it's so light and easy to manouvre and has enough grunt to keep you safe on motorways. But yes, that indocator switch is in the wrong position :(

[@Dawidstuglik02]

I’ll be taking my CBT very soon

[@spicy110]

Best of luck!

[@AGardenShed]

I think enough is hard to quantify. I agree What is enough for one person may not be enough for others. An A2 bike is enough for bimbling and commuting on and exploring at the weekend. However if your say riding a lot with a pillion or touring with camping kit then no I would say it may not be enough. Its doable as many have proved but It’s nice to have to bit more on tap if your fully laden. Personally I find 650cc enough for me. My last four bikes have been 650’s. I’ve ridden more powerful bikes but I prefer 650’s. They have enough power for overtaking while two up or fully laden.

[@carmeenamack]

I hold a full A & I have a CB500F, I chose an A2 bike for myself because I agree it is enough but that's more to do with me being child sized than power related 😁

[@johnfisher1472]

I think we should be able to take a single test but choose what category bike to do it on (A1, A2, or A) and be restricted to the category bike you passed the test on, then you should be able to do a CBT style test on a bigger bike to upgrade to a higher category to prove you can handle the bigger bike. I think that would be ideal because riders should be able to progress power in their own time, not what the government thinks is suitable, because we all learn at different rates than others

[@mwpanda98]

I think people worry about 48hp being a little amount because they're constantly comparing A2 bikes to R1s and so forth. In my opinion why do you need a bike or car that does more then 100mph? 80/90mph is enough for a safe overtake on the motorway.

[@steveow40]

Passed my test 25 years ago. We all went from slow 125cc on to 500cc two strokes and 750 super bike. We all crashed and got injured within a few months. Too much power without riding experience is not a good combination. I think the current licensing system is necessary on our now crowded roads. It was impossible to use the power of the bikes we had in the day so can’t understand how the current super bikes can be much fun on the road. I’m thinking of getting back on a bike and I won’t be looking for anything more than 40-50hp.

[@spicy110]

Very well put sir. 👍

[@comicnerd2000]

love the full body wave at 7:24 😂😂

[@barriewilliams4526]

Although I have a full licence I ride a Kawasaki gpz 500s. I just don't need the hassle of a bigger bike & at the end of the day the max speed limit in this country is 70.....

[@redfootballer]

Good advice as always , i'm going for my cbt and theory this year then going direct access next year hopefully .

[@EmilySillyDev]

I'm currently on my CBT, getting ready for A1 theory. Already looking at these bikes like 😳 I don't know how I'm supposed to go about not being able to ride these !!

[@spicy110]

Wait a second! You would only be looking at doing the A1 if you ever only want to ride a 125cc. No not do the A1 if you want a larger bike in the end.

[@EmilySillyDev]

@@spicy110 my main issue is that I want to carry people on my bike. As it stands, I cannot legally do that right now😢

[@ljgarrison6910]

Lol when that car pulled out, great defensive riding and funny commentary

[@Rust3dfaith]

Very much agree! I passed my Direct access a few months ago and went for a Benelli TRK 502, at the top end of A2 and it's perfectly fine for anything i'll ever need it for. And tbh, im not sure i'd feel confident jumping from a 125 to a 1000CC.

[@bigmatt9783]

I’m after doing my test but want a cruiser but I don’t think there are many cruisers that fit in that a2 bracket does anyone know any? Thanks

[@Liam_Bollocks]

My other half only rides really for fun, occasionally to get to work, but she’s only got an a2, she has a restricted sv650 and a Honda shadow 600, she’s not really interested in ‘more’ and the Sv is still quick af with the restrictor

[@MrSlowestD16]

As somebody in the US, A2 sounds like it's enough, 50hp is enough. The sportster 883 (one of HD's best selling bikes) only makes about 50hp, and people ride those all over the US, which is much more spread out and hwy intensive than the UK, and they do it without issues. A guy at my previous job put 125k on his 883. So yeah, they are definitely enough. They're not "get yourself in lots of trouble" kind of power, but they're enough power to keep up with traffic FOR SURE and enough to have fun with in the canyons and what-not.

[@hoogledesigns]

I am 40 years old been a dream to ride a motorbike since a kid but all though confident in my own ability to be cautious always been put off by the fact I could be killed by almost anything else on the road. But now I am just going to go for it and agree pretty much an A2 is good enough for me but at the same time the cost of the A2 I may as well just go for full license and then not have to worry about every time i feel I want to buy a bike and checking if i can legally ride it or not.

[@playthreetwo]

Not even going to lie, i was going to get a 125 but being 19 now im just going for my a2 because I have a car for long distance. I want a bike because they are fun. 100% agree with you

[@N0nManfiold99]

I have a 'restricted' 99' SV650 ;) Only pay £270 a year for insurance atm and I'm 20. I find the whole A license stupid if you've done the A2. When I did my A2, the people were doing their full A license with me, on the exact same bike, an MT07, but unrestricted. On those bikes, the restriction is only really there at the top end anyways, so there's pretty much no difference.

[@RoboNinja300]

the only Gripe i have is that if youre Upgrading from the A2 to the A Licence there should be another way to do it, There was Talk of a Day Course, but also the Kick in the Teeth is that you then have to Fork out another £400-£6/700 to Upgrade, because i ride Long Distance to Work, i do need to Upgrade from the A2, (trust me wasnt my plan, But Life Decided to throw me a Curveball) but its just a case of Saving that money to do so. so for Some its Enough, or as Spicy said, even a 125 is Enough, but i guess it just comes down to Personal preference.

[@OldManTony]

The A2 is plenty, especially if you have just moved up from a 125. When I rode a 125 back in the 70s I used to go everywhere on it and 100 mile or more trips two up were not an issue, and A2 bike would have been pure luxury! My Mrs drives a Citroen C1 with about 60HP for an 800 kg car. I’ve been driving it around for a couple of days, it was OK when I got into that rhythm!

[@Cookieguy97]

I've got my mod 1 in the next few days for the A2 I think it's enough and is a good balance of practicality and fun. It's just the cost of then having to re take the test for the unrestricted license.

[@azzaboi1989]

The cbr 500 r is a really nice bike but I still prefer my suzuki gs 500 e at 47.5 bhp it's a great ride short of long distance

[@ilovecake50]

I've been on an A2 for 5 years, I've ridden to Scotland from Birmingham, done a 1500 mile week tour of the north of England all on a pretty heavy xj600s restricted, it's fine, and on a twisty road you more than keep up with people on bigger bikes That being said I'm doing my full license at the moment, as I do want to step up to something bigger

[@ilovecake50]

Side note I passed my A license today, I will be removing the restrictor plates ASAP, and look to buy something bigger over the winter

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

Nice to hear you passed, The bragging rights alone is worth it.

[@natecharleswatches]

Got my A2 tests next week, gonna be interesting XD

[@mattchapman9379]

I have full licence and was on a CBR600, crashed it & wrote it off. Now am on CBR500R and it’s a brilliant brilliant bike. Can’t fault it at all, handles well, comfy all day, great on fuel AND for the A2 doubters it will out-accelerate most standard cars, you can overtake with ease and do triple digit speeds so.....

[@helzbelz2818]

Agreed. I did some training on a A licence bike and it was great i handled it just fine etc but really heavy and im a weak 5’5’ girlie and to be honest prefer the small engined bikes as it gives me more confidence in all areas of the riding. I was a bit worried to begin with that if i restricted myself i wouldnt be able to do longer distances but i think from watching the travellers vloggers on youtube in the wildest places on no more that 500cc bikes and smaller right down to 125cc and even scooters i think on an A2 you have nothing to feel hard done by about. For me its all about the ride not how fast i get there

[@petethompson1282]

Im tempted just to do the A2 test, as I only ever feel like trundling around on a 300cc, or under 47hp bike anyway. The roads arent fast enough for anything more, and i wont track day. The new A2 test allows 250cc which im used to (big 125) so it would be even easier to pass

[@spicy110]

You could...but, if you are over 24 I would just do the A. It's the same tests at the same cost on the same bikes (pretty much on the test you would never feel the power difference) Not many schools will have 250cc bikes for training yet. Add on I believe insurance would be cheaper on a full licence I really do not know a good reason not to do the full A. Clearly up to you what you do just saying I wouldn't limit myself for no reason. Good luck what ever way you go 🙂👍

[@mattyg4k233]

I've got a KTM Duke 390 and the difference from a 125 is immense. The power is plentyful, but I still want more... :)

[@mau5pilot854]

I had a 500R, they’re great little bikes and great on fuel.

[@RupeWilson]

I love my duke 390, it has more than enough umf for towns and back roads.. ride it like you stole it come to mind.... use all the gears... full gas.... i have so much fun at sensible speeds....

[@36SBC]

I’m more than happy with the power on my Duke 390 and it’ll top out at over 100 mph. More power would be nice but it’s not necessary

[@johna6968]

I have a 500cc twin too, but with 60bhp

[@mhoward181]

Go for a 300 scooter. u can store 2 full size crash helmets under. You will get around 80mpg. You can go upto 90mph. Sorted.

[@easternmenace]

I have my A2 for over 3 years, tried to do the full A test, failed and gave up for now lol. To be honest most bikes I want are not that much over the limit, in fact most could probably be restricted but I don't want to faff around with that

[@benl7070]

For someone like myself the A2 is fine I go down lots of lanes and single track roads and coastal roads and commuting so a smaller displacement bike is actually desired as usually they are lighter and they're sort of zippy, on a litre bike the sort of riding I do I'd only need 2 gears ha ha ha so a 300 hundred 400 hundred single is great its light enough and nimble enough to do the bouncy twisty stuff while being a 400 its gonna be fine for doing longer motorway trips.

[@MrMrhughesy]

I wanted/ needed a big adventure bike, so no, A2 wasn't enough for me.

[@HakanKoseoglu]

XT660Z should tick that box. Perfect for what it is.

[@PaulGSXR]

Tiger 800 can be restricted

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

Want and need are two different things, But are the local roads near you functional for such a bike, i don't want to squash anyone's fun or dreams but it is sadly something you got to take into account.

[@GT.Bugger]

Great video. I've been contemplating this myself lately. I haven't got a bike licence but want to. I'm looking at a duke 390 for my first bike and it falls into A2 category. However I've heard the full licence is just the same as A2 but on a bigger bike? That's where I'm torn. However I'll still be going for the Duke so might do A2 then just get some experience before moving up.

[@robmitchell3961]

I only have a A2 and don't really have a desire to do the full license I ride a royal Enfield bullet 500 a Honda cx500 and a Kawasaki gpx 250 all are great especially the Kawasaki it will still hit 100mph and I ride comfortably 2 up on all my bikes. And that horn thing reminds me of jumping on my bullet with the gear lever and rear brake swapped round 😂

[@monkeydust100]

Does anyone know anything about the KTM RC 390? Because I've heard it has problems stalling at low revs.

[@spicy110]

I bet that is because it's a big single. Most people who come from sport bikes and ride my DRZ 440 also stall it a few times. Just have to get the feel for it.

[@Drunken_Hamster]

I think the A1 and A2 and all that are not well thought out. It's either an outright displacement restriction, or an arbitrary HP restriction. HP means just about nothing. It torque over time. It's that torque that will get you into trouble. And, also, the heavier a bike, the more torque and power it needs to get it to do the same thing a lighter bike will do. Therefore, for BOTH A1 and A2, it should be some form of torque to weight ratio. Probably something like a 400lb curb weight bike can only make 30 lb-ft of torque for A2.

[@safetyfirst5917]

I've been all over the lake district and yorkshire with my 125, because I don't need motorways to get to those places. An A2 bike would be more than enough for me, because I'm guessing you still get much better fuel economy than the average car.

[@DoraKage]

I have a problem, I was originally interested to purchase a CBR 500R because it falls into the A2 category, but after asking a few dealers about it, most of those I approached now only have 650's. But they said it could still fall into the A2 category if the power output is tuned down. What does that mean? Im worried that theyre only interested in making a sale, and I wouldnt want to get into trouble due to my license restriction...

[@spicy110]

Basically it is restricted to the A2 power output. In the old days it was a mechanical part or throttle stop. (basically stops full throttle) these days the brains of the engine the ECU is reprogrammed to only procure the allowed power. The bike will be tested and issued with a bit of paper to say its A2 legal now. The benefit to this is later down the road if you get your full licence you can get it unrestricted again and have the full power.

[@DoraKage]

@@spicy110 Thank you!

[@letni9506]

I used to ride a ninja 250 and a restricted 33bhp z750 and tbh even they were enough. Ok, they didn't have the acceleration buzz you sometimes want but usually I didn't feel like I needed more power. Now I have a Fazer but I don't really open it up that often. But tbh 48bhp is fine. You can go as fast as you really need to be going :) I probably ride slower now than I did when I had the 250

[@corriedotdev]

Im restricted with a CB650R and the acceleration is just incredible. I feel like the top is slows but its effortless to 80 and not ballsy enough for faster yet lol

[@montyclemons4059]

I would like a cb650r but I have been told the insurance is a lot of money is this true ?

[@funkycowie]

The Pull Out - hahahahahahaaaa Indicator/Horn - Having the same issues with my NC750x going from 8 years of Yamaha to Honda... in 4 months of riding I have hit my indicator instead of the horn 4 times.

[@ProbablyBritish]

My CRF250 tops out at about 85mph, plenty enough for any road type without any issue

[@jaybuckley21700]

I’m a real rookie at all the it’s very confusing cbt/a1/a2 then what how many tests do you have to do to get a full licence lol I’m 32 can I not just go straight for a full license once I feel comfortable enough on a bike after having my cbt awhile ❤️👍 (EDIT) never mind bro just found your video explaining it all 👍

[@Ry93P]

Question.?? I'm on a CBT right now My stepdad tells me I can do a full bike license on a 125cc after that I can't ride anything over a certain BHP 500cc near abouts for 2 years after 2 years I can get on anything I want with no further test or license is this true I'm over 25 years old also

[@spicy110]

Few mix ups there from the sounds of it. Anyone at the age of 24 or older can go for direct access but that must be done of a much larger bike than a 125cc, the training school will provide you a bike. Here is my video explaining the bike licences and how you get them kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ-WYZ6nnZake7c

[@mrmurder75]

So is the A2 easier to pass than the full licence then? Not even done my cbt yet but I am trying to decide where I want to go after that...

[@spicy110]

Same test slightly different bike, it's identical tbh.

[@mrmurder75]

@@spicy110 ah OK, thanks. So may as well do the full licence then? Kinda future proof myself.

[@MultiMb77]

Hey mate, the only thing I would say about a 125cc being enough, they are very limiting in the top end, so when I commuted I would be only able to get to 50 due to the wind.. which meant I was holding up cars in the NSL’s a2 I reckon should be good though, haven’t been on one though.

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

I would say A2 would be the minimal Licence you need if your going to long term be a rider or travel far on a bike. The full A is down to personal desire i would say do you want a faster bike or not and can you handle the more power in the throttle. Some can,some Can't i personally think A2 is a public road licence, the Full A licence and bikes is for tracks really and Autobahns and American highway.

[@StrawberryJam99]

Aiming to sit my A2 soon. Most recent A2 bikes are advertised that way and cost a fortune. Looking to get a Transalp 650 and restrict to 47.