Spider-Man 2099 VS Batman Beyond | WHO WOULD WIN?

#spiderman #batman
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In this video I'll compare the feats between Spider-Man 209 and Batman Beyond, as to determine who would actually win in a fight.
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse is a 2023 American computer-animated superhero film featuring the Marvel Comics character Miles Morales / Spider-Man, produced by Columbia Pictures and Sony Pictures Animation in association with Marvel Entertainment, and distributed by Sony Pictures Releasing. The sequel to Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018), it is set in a shared multiverse of alternate universes called the Spider-Verse. The film is directed by Joaquim Dos Santos, Kemp Powers and Justin K. Thompson, in their feature directorial debuts, from a screenplay written by Phil Lord, Christopher Miller (who both also co-produce) and David Callaham. Shameik Moore voices Miles, starring alongside Hailee Steinfeld, Brian Tyree Henry, Luna Lauren Vélez, Jake Johnson, Jason Schwartzman, Issa Rae, Karan Soni, Daniel Kaluuya, Mahershala Ali, and Oscar Isaac. In the film, Miles goes on an adventure with Gwen Stacy / Spider-Woman across the multiverse where he meets a new team of Spider-People known as the Spider-Society, led by Miguel O' Hara / Spider-Man 2099, but comes into conflict with them over handling a new threat.
Sony began developing a sequel to Into the Spider-Verse before its 2018 release, with the writing and directing team attached. It was set to focus on the relationship between Moore's Miles and Steinfeld's Gwen. The sequel was officially announced in November 2019 and animation work began in June 2020, with a different visual style for each of the six universes visited by the characters. With a runtime of 140 minutes, it makes it the longest animated film ever produced by an American studio.
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse premiered at the Regency Village Theatre in Los Angeles, California on May 30, 2023, and was released in the United States on June 2, having been delayed from an original April 2022 date due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Similar to its predecessor, the film has garnered universal acclaim from critics. It has earned $208.8 million against a production budget of $100 million at the worldwide box office. A third film, Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse, is scheduled to be released on March 29, 2024, while a female-focused spin-off film is in development.
Batman Beyond (known as Batman of the Future outside the United States) is an American superhero animated television series based on the DC Comics superhero Batman. Created and developed by Paul Dini, Bruce Timm, and Alan Burnett and produced by Warner Bros. Animation, the series began airing on January 10, 1999 on Kids' WB, and ended on December 18, 2001. In the United Kingdom, it began airing on September 4, 2000. After 52 episodes spanning three seasons and one direct-to-video feature film, the series was brought to an end in favor of the Justice League animated series, and plans for a fourth season were cancelled.[3] Depicting a teenaged Batman (Terry McGinnis) in a futuristic Gotham City under the tutelage of an elderly Bruce Wayne, Batman Beyond is chronologically the final series of the DC Animated Universe, and serves as the sequel to both Batman: The Animated Series and The New Batman Adventures.
Though the initial announcement of the series drew mixed reactions, Batman Beyond received a positive reception and a cult following. Despite being conceived as a kid-friendly Batman cartoon, it was considerably darker than most other children's programs at the time. The show explores the darker side of many Batman projects, such as cyberpunk and sci-fi themes with the issues and dilemmas of technological innovation affecting society, and the psychology of the character of Bruce Wayne. In addition, due to the titular character being a high school student, it includes issues that plague modern teenagers (academic problems, physical and mental health, substance abuse, illegal subcultures, child abuse and neglect, dysfunctional families, school violence, peer pressure, physical images, juvenile delinquency, materialism, relationships, etc.). It is also the first Batman series to portray the hero as a teenager.

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For the comments: Arkham Batman VS Edge of Time 2099?

[@beyond648]

I love Arkham Batman but I feel like Spiderman 2099 got this

[@dustedjotaro3078]

That 2099 is absolutely stomping Batman

[@timdrake7254]

Need that video ASAP

[@epiccraftmine4976]

This gave me a few ideas: Comics Batman vs 616 Spider-Man Thomas Wayne Batman vs Comics Spider-Man Noir New 52 Batman vs Ultimate (symbiote) Spider-Man

[@ragequitgaming2795]

I kinda wished you went over Doc Ock’s tentacles tanking an explosion that destroyed an island.

[@C0LIN.]

Funniest thing about these 2 is Miguel is more like Batman and Terry acts more like Spider-Man

[@BIackSun]

I have always said this

[@benparrish672]

Cuz both originals are the opposite. Alternate universes are usually counterparts to the protagonist.

[@DirtyDev]

@@omegaminoseer4539nightwing as well

[@aidanchaidez7822]

⁠@@benparrish672 both are in the same universes as their original

[@Watermelon_Man]

@@benparrish672They’re not exactly alternate universes since the respective protagonists they’re foiling exist as themselves as historical figures.

[@KeyIssues]

As with all 90s kids, I was absolutely obsessed with these characters for a loooong time.

[@shaunbryantjr2355]

Ayyyyyyy,what's up key issues. Goated channel

[@Mr.DelicateTouch]

The editing in this was really good and I liked how thorough yet to the point you were when discussing this. Great job and I agree with your take.

[@dudewithachannel1163]

Electro actually fights using electricity, not lightning. It's a common misconception. I think Film Miguel is most likely able to dodge light attacks if he scales to other Spider-Men which commonly are able to dodge light speed attacks, but we never really see it in Spiderverse so who knows. Just wanted to point that out :P

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Incorrect; he's made of lightning: imgur.com/Ob9VtEg imgur.com/a/38VTV No one on ATSV is canon to the comics so it's unlikely

[@dudewithachannel1163]

@@CRISIS_COMICS, huh, alright. Well I remember some versions of Electro being made of electricity such as in tasm2, Mtv's version or even Ultimate Electro. But I guess it comes down to whichever version you're going with. Either way great video, thanks for the quick response, keep it up!

[@giosbizarreart9048]

Lightning is electricity

[@Man1fest135]

@@giosbizarreart9048 lightning is a form of electricity but electricity isn’t lightning, there is a difference

[@Raggaratio]

@@giosbizarreart9048 lightning is the near instant connection of static electricity from the ground to the clouds producing plasma.

[@XertiqWasTaken]

Came here as soon as I saw it, this has been one of my favorite debates for years and I'd love to see your take on it

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

THE DEFINITIVE TAKE

[@XertiqWasTaken]

@@CRISIS_COMICS After completing the video and taking it all in, yeah I can say this is the most definitive take good shit bro!

[@c.j.9536]

A few other reasons why Miguel would win is because he can literally counter everything Terry throws at him. Miguel’s suit can protect him from stabbing weapons making the batarangs useless, thanks to Miguel’s eyesight he can see in the dark so Terry turning off the lights won’t help, Terry can go invisible well so can Miguel but even if Miguel couldn’t Miguel’s enhanced hearing can pin point Terry’s location, Miguel’s eyesight is so good he can see you pull out a gun even before you pull it out so if Terry tried to pull a flash bang grenade Miguel would see it happen and counter before Terry would react, and finally Miguel’s talons are strong enough to slice through metal so it should slice through the bat suit. If others reading this are still skeptical the Batman beyond suit is basically and IRONMAN suit and Peter has beaten IRONMAN more than once and keep in mind Miguel does scale to Peter.

[@FoxFighter-HellBringer]

How exactly would Miguel be able to react faster than Terry when Crisis outright stated that Terry is faster and more agile than Miguel? Also, Miguel's enhanced senses can be a detriment. Terry is very quick in his perception. If he noticed that Miguel had sensitive hearing or eyesight, he could counter it with one of the many tools in his arsenal. Miguel doesn't know what Terry's equipment is, so you could easily say that Miguel couldn't react either. It's not as simple as you think it is.

[@ilovehotlatinas5725]

How is he supposed to counter a flash bang

[@c.j.9536]

@Fox Fire-Hell Brigner First of all Miguel scales to Peter who was able to keep up with morlun who moved so fast the spider sense couldn’t pick him up and 2nd of all the Batman beyond suit is basically an Ironman suit which Peter has fought and beaten before and I’m pretty sure Miguel knows who Ironman is and while yes Miguel wouldn’t know what Terry’s arsenal would be Terry wouldn’t know about Miguel’s enhanced senses either

[@c.j.9536]

@ILoveHotLatinas he can counter by shooting a web at Terry’s hand before he throws the flash bang

[@crowwithinternetservice]

​@@FoxFighter-HellBringer That's referencing ATSV Miguel. Doesn't bind his comic counterpart

[@yotengoyotengo7035]

This dude never gives Batman a break 😭😭😭😭

[@crowwithinternetservice]

This goes unimaginably hard

[@personahearts358]

I kinda did expect the comics versions of these characters to have 2099 STOMP but find it funny how Terry has more consistant speed feats and scaling

[@shaunbryantjr2355]

Thank you for pointing out that dcau terry is a little better than his comic counterpart. I mean if we count his earth 12 feats we could scale him really high. But earth 12 is debatablely canon to dcau. Those death battle clowns dont know the difference between striking strength and lifting strength 💀. Thank you for putting some respect on 2099s name. Also i saw the pinned comment. Does ege of time 2099 have any AP feats?

[@SILENTASSASSIN12]

You always hit with these versus, comparison videos. I love them too much.

[@SeseOB2003]

This was a really cool versus video on future versions of marvel and DC’s most iconic heroes. The video had extra appeal as I loved Miguel’s story in ATSV, it was very emotionally gripping and I enjoyed watching it last Sunday (10th June).

[@bobbywilliams4438]

This matchup Hard , another dope vid Crisis

[@zthemartian616]

Great video! I always saw aim dodging, body language reading, qi sensing, and Batman being able to control his own time perception as an explanation of how Batman and the Bat family being able to react and dodge FTL+ to MTFL+ opponents and lasers, not a negation of their feats. Like it really just speaks to how skilled they are rather then them being slower.

[@lakithchandra8901]

Awesome video crisis

[@TKaz10]

god bless you i was looking for a video like that !!!

[@sabishi_black]

This is the only Crisis I love seeing in my life. Nothing more needed to be said.

[@danieldansoowusu4869]

great video bro

[@dustedjotaro3078]

Ah snap is that Crisis dropping another banger?

[@superbad8008]

I always thought that O’ Hara being partially mutated was the coolest thing, even though he doesn’t have the spider sense.

[@higorreis7248]

Perfect video

[@Chuck]

Fire vid g

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

🤝

[@turnerbrawley4715]

Hey chuck!

[@ftg3183]

Batman Beyond vs Spiderman 2099 Strength:2099 Speed;2099 IQ: 2099 battle IQ; Both Skill:Batman beyond Hax:2099 Durability;2099 Technology; Both I'd say Spiderman 2099 wins..

[@Dickinthesenutzs27]

Yep some of these mfs rlly need to see that batman even with prep still loses to mfs like siderman, superman n etc

[@corrinflakes9659]

I wasn’t expecting 1960’s cartoon Spider-Man who was used as a cutaway gag to be animated film Miles’ scaling factor for speed.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

It's not. Spider-Man Unlimited is.

[@corrinflakes9659]

@@CRISIS_COMICS Yet you referenced how Miles dodged that 1960’s cartoon Spider-Man.

[@randallrutherford1384]

Liked, subscribed, commenting, & sharing!

[@gemstonegojira24]

Great video man, I would love to see you make a godzilla power scaling video one day!

[@jwoncollier4412]

I think batman beyond have more martial art skills than 2099 spider-man correct me if I'm wrong?

[@AnnoyingRadioHD]

He does. The dude was trained by Batman! A mf who squabbles with fighters across the world.

[@IngloriousBastard616]

I remember in the spider verse comic run when Morlun went around killing different versions of Miguel, so main timeline Miguel (if that even makes sense) set a trap for him and kicked his ass.

[@AceTheCap823]

I think the guy from the future wins

[@Mr.DelicateTouch]

I think the other future guy might be able to pull of a W

[@NonAryanDuck]

Crisis improves at editing like Batman improves at martial arts Edit: Batman vs Spiderman up next?

[@baki484]

Too obvious Spiderman wins. Let's go with the big boys the flashes (Barry or Wally) since you like obvious conclusions remember Spiderman is not street level.

[@tnmblonewolf8799]

⁠@@baki484Spider-Man isn’t beating either Barry or Wally as they’re are too fast.

[@baki484]

@@tnmblonewolf8799 I know Spidey isn't beating the flashes. Batman isn't beating Spiderman either. The Spidersense and physical stats Spiderman possesses cancel out everything batman brings to the table. It's too obvious that's why I said "since you like obvious conclusions let's go with the one of the flashes" Spidey is always holding back right hell let's give him the symbiote to close the gap (for whatever that's worth)

[@tnmblonewolf8799]

@@baki484 Oh I get it now my bad, I assumed you were saying Spider-man could contend with the Flashes

[@kanekx5962]

​@@baki484 It's funny how street level characters contend with Spiderman and sometimes beat him.

[@luska4515]

Do you plan on doing videos on other Marvel street-tiers? It would be a blast to see you analyze chatacters like Iron Fist (maybe above street-tier honestly), Daredevil and Wolverine.

[@damianstarks3338]

Batman beyond is my favorite version of Batman and Spider Man 2099 is my favorite version of Spider Man. This video puts the biggest smile on my face.

[@user-cf7gt1ne8k]

Man Batman beyond getting the old memories back wish he gets a show again plus he’s the only one I consider as the one who will become Batman after Bruce.😊

[@johnroberto8131]

Honestly watching this mad me wish for a Batman Beyond vs Spider-man Unlimited video. Great video btw, I didn't think 2099 was this strong.

[@jackingram9599]

this would be an insane team up i’ve always wanted them too . 2 of some of my favourite characters ever

[@cesarvictorino4301]

The Annihilator(Mighty Med) vs All For One(My Hero Academia ).

[@brwnieeee]

loved this video was wondering (if you havent already) whos winning moon knight or spawn

[@shymurda]

Very interesting fight I always thought Batman Beyond would win but you changed my mind lol 💯💯 But a fight idea I think would be cool for future videos that doesn’t get enough attention is The Sinister Six vs The Suicide Squad. I feel like both teams can win depending the members

[@S.Drift.1]

Nah I still think Terry would win this if we can use the animated show too, I think Terry is stronger being able to lift 192 tons while Miguel’s major strength feat that I remember is around 100 tons. Terry has more gadgets being able to distract Miguel’s senses and shi, more consistent speed feats being able to go 15,000 mph, maybe more skilled since terry is trained by Bruce n dick, possible durable tanking a giant penny crashing on his legs and got up like nothing happened🤷‍♂️ me personally I think Terry mid-high diffs Miguel

[@broIgottapoop]

Have you ever considered doing content about invincible?

[@Ryan-nh5kw]

Second time asking, what's the name of the song at the beginning of the video?

[@majesticslug3399]

I only watched Batman Beyond and Terry always seemed like he wasn't particularly talented. More carried by his suit than being a proper protege.

[@joshalan5125]

I'll tell you a battle that I would love to see that I don't think any channel has broken down yet: Deathstroke vs Sub-Zero.

[@pattouco]

Great video. This is some of the best suggestions of fights video Batman vs Spider Man's Rogue Gallery Villains Daredevil vs Nightwing Deathstroke vs Taskmaster Superior Spider Man vs Batman Who Laugh Winter Soldier vs Red Hood Falcon/Sam Wilson Captain America vs Tim Drake Batman vs Moon Knight Miles Morales vs Damian Wayne Link vs Sora Darth Sidious/Sir Palpatine vs Master Xehanort Anakin Skywalker vs Terra How Strong Sora is

[@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667]

Well how about that? My profile's namesake superhero is getting some respect! Love to see it! :D

[@revalier3670]

Honestly, I can see both of them becoming friends after beating the shit out of each other lol

[@DT25659]

616 Peter has also been able to destroy Otto’s metal arms who can tank island level explosions.

[@dezaina9961]

Don’t make me choose 😩

[@naon503]

Do a Max steel vs generator Rex

[@dynamiteboy2427]

Do Nightwing vs Daredevil (The normal version of him)

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

It’s on my to-do list 😈🕊️

[@thunderguy6164]

Id be cool to see your take on Miles Spiderman vs Nightwing

[@Artryom]

Any Spider-Man vs Batman character is wildly unfair and a waste of time. Basically, the physical stats of them is waaay too far apart while the Bat characters only have gadgets they use on the daily to counter their powers… physical confrontation is always going to have the Spiders stomp and no diff.

[@DaichiOkami]

To be Fair, the into and across the spiderverse main spider people are all pretty weak and rather grounded when it comes to spiderpeople. most the spiderverse cast doesn't go past small building level feats they probably just wanted to nerf them to not make them appear too busted. cause realistically 5 spiderpeople would've absolutely destroyed king pin and the rest of the 1610 villains. let's take in mind the ultimate comics are already basically a nerfed version of 616 (with weirder characters, random gore, and a bunch of incest..)

[@DaichiOkami]

@@daraghokane4236 I mean, what kingpin version isn't? King pin is always called peak human but by now we should know peak human in marvel means venom boosted bane on average

[@Artryom]

⁠@@DaichiOkamieak human is just a synonym for “superhuman” cuz at “Peak human” these guys are able to contend with directly quoted super-humans. Also, “Venom boosted Bane” is such an ambiguous comparison, just say Superhuman, which is also extremefiably inconsistent.

[@DaichiOkami]

@@Artryom peak human isn't superhuman. What the hell are you talking about. That's objectively wrong in concept. The whole point of peak human. Is the maximum a normal human can e with no superpowers.

[@DaichiOkami]

@@Artryom Venom boosted bane is blatantly stated to lift up to 2 tons and 3 if he pushes himself. I don't see where you find this difficult to understand. This is a very consistent measure of his strength throughout most batman continuities. I'm bassically saying that peak human in marvel is the equivalent of bench pressing a car. And tanking hits with similar force to that same car falling on them.

[@Artryom]

@@DaichiOkami Why'd you wait 4 hours to reply to that same comment? Ain't no way you didn't see it originally.

[@stephenchambers7972]

do another deathstroke video

[@silver______]

Batman with Prep Vs Spiderman with prep? Or none on either side, either way that’s a fight I’m dying to hear your take on.

[@candybird]

Speaking of animation Miguel also makes an appearance in The Disney's ultimate Spider-Man version of the spider-verse arc.

[@dlowmighty9283]

Idk if you’ll see this crisis but I hope you can do Black Adam Vs Juggernaut One Day that match is soooo hard for me to pick with both at there base peak Classic Juggernaut had some Insane Feats and Current Black Adam is a beast It’s so much to factor in I Hope You Can Do that match Soon

[@isabaig6665]

Whats the opening bg music?

[@youngpressure1450]

what do you think about death battle video about these 2

[@cesarvictorino4301]

Hellboy(Dark Horse Comics) vs Devilman/Akira Fudo.

[@dionysisnance4204]

I wish i had a fusion of stark spiderman suit from homecoming and a batman beyond suit in functions in real life

[@ThorG-mg2yx]

What are your thoughts on Nightwing VS Daredevil?

[@stephenchambers7972]

do a video on gabriel dracula from lords of shadow 2

[@Spider-K]

Favorite characters from the future in Marvel and Dc

[@baki484]

Green lantern (Hal Jordan) vs Nova (Richard Rider) Hawkeye vs Green arrow Batman vs Black panther Daredevil vs Nightwing (I know you want to) Batman vs daredevil Captain America or Black panther vs Deathstroke

[@demolishingtank8853]

Pls cover Transformers,Bayverse prime(with feats for the comics,novels and statements vs Knightverse prime( with scaling feat from bumblebee in The prequel bumblebee novel and bumblebee motion comic and rise of the beast)

[@martinabraham6138]

Dude plssssss, do Goku vs Superman/Thanos vs Darkseid My three words to describe what you do 1. Informative/researched 2. Entertaining and 3 objective

[@StigNCO]

Miguel's theme is a banger tho

[@Kenken_the_goat]

I would love to see slade vs Deadpool and or winter soldier or red hood vs daredevil 😂

[@ahtee5106]

Can you do arkham batman vs albert wesker and do how strong is web of shadows spiderman and also do web of shadow vs ps4 spiderman

[@Darklord-wr7wq]

Can you do arkham batman vs tobey spider man

[@Keith_Norman]

Which future will prevail

[@jprice6419]

Fantastic 4 vs Red Hulk

[@kaineisgoat]

hello crisis can you make a video "how strong is the ultimate spiderman (tv show 2012)" plz

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Nah

[@kaineisgoat]

@@CRISIS_COMICS did you watch this show? Do you think he will win Tobey Maguire?

[@aidanshowers8366]

This video is so refreshing. It’s crazy how much people will downplay 2099 just because he doesn’t have spider sense. On the animation front yeah terry would beat him (witch could be subject to change in beyond the spider verse). But with the comics spider man 2099 takes the win no doubt.

[@animations-x1650]

Your Ranking for that like strongest Spider-Man like animated video games what about ultimate Spider-Man from the cartoon or the 2017 Spider-Man show I really would like to see where they rank against the other animated or video game Spider-Man

[@chosenone3295]

Patiently waiting for nightwing vs daredevil

[@FoxFighter-HellBringer]

Doesn't Terry's suit have super strength? If he has superior agility, speed, and enhanced strength, wouldn't he still have a chance of winning? I know his strength doesn't match Miguel's, but it does mean it's probably going to hurt him more than an average human's punches.

[@frostbite2179]

Yes, super strength in the 100 ton range

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

I mention that in the first sentence of Terry’s breakdown.

[@FoxFighter-HellBringer]

@@CRISIS_COMICS So wouldn't that help him against Miguel? He could actually hurt him in a fight as opposed to a regular person.

[@Azeral7]

​@@FoxFighter-HellBringernah miguel whipping the floor with terry

[@S.Drift.1]

@@Azeral7cap💀

[@debussy21]

There’s already a DEATH BATTLE episode on that. I’m not gonna spoil who wins

[@NMbones98]

Ahh yes the true heir's of both the batman and spiderman mantle's.

[@ramirosapo]

hey crisis, at what level would you put alex mercer as a prototype?

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

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[@ramirosapo]

​@@CRISIS_COMICSand Albert Wesker from resident evil?

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@ramirosapo I don't care about RE AT ALL

[@VunderGuy]

So are you saying Death Battle's conclusion in November of 2017 was false or inaccurate or that the feats for both characters since those half a decade of time have allowed Miguel to finally and comfortably claim the victory in a similar way to how if Hulk had his Devil Hulk powers he'd crush Doomsday in their Death Battle with the feats and scaling they provided?

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Death Battle sucks ass

[@VunderGuy]

@@lolstalgic9602 For what? Spouting off boilerplate I can find by just casting a stone into the wilds of youtube? You're easier than your mum last time I met her! XD

[@patricklafontaine5969]

​@@CRISIS_COMICSagreed

[@xxprototypexx5056]

​​@@CRISIS_COMICS lol, with all due respect, your one of the last ppl that deserves to be judging DB. Both of you claimed Cole Magraph would win against Alex mercer when Alex can copy his genes via touch and gain his abilities, and said Arkham Batman dodged bullets in his fear takedowns when the reason for the thugs missing is literally in the name. They aren't missing because he's dodging, they are missing because they're too afraid to aim properly.

[@zuccsucc476]

2099 was in two episodes of the ultimate spiderman if you wanted to watch those

[@doubledewdagod]

It augments his strength as well.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

U didn't make it this far?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/np-5ZHyImc2irac

[@doubledewdagod]

No I was eating chips at the moment. It was when you listed his abilities for the second time is when I heard. I blame the ruffles.

[@user-ce5ry9vw3g]

Plse do deku vs miles

[@turnerbrawley4715]

From what ive looked up shattered dimensions/edge of time 2099 should be faster than Arkham bats in shattered dimensions he is stated to be able to dash at light speed vs Arkham bats who scales to Catwoman who dodged electricity

[@theSageofFire]

Do you think this video might contradict your Batman vs Captain America video, or is Spider-Man that much stronger than Captain America

[@MegaDrainProductions]

Not using this as an anti-feat but more as observations. When it comes to the bat family reacting to speedsters or laser beams I've always viewed it under the assumption that they know these super powered people are relying more on their abilities than actual martial arts. What I mean is, the reason they can react to attacks like this is because they know how they're going to use this specific power because while they're proficient in their super powers they haven't bothered learning how to actually fight except against other super powered people who are also just brawlers than actual martial artists. Take a speedster like Thawne and his death by a thousand cuts to Bronze Tiger in Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay. Bronze Tiger is renowned as one of the worlds greatest martial artists and what does Thawne do? He just fucks with him with his super speed. Other examples are with Darkseid or Superman who use eye lasers, they assume no one can withstand them but as soon as someone even slightly competent in martial arts or fighting super powered people, they immediately know how to counter/dodge them. So in their mind, why learn martial artists against non-powered people when I can just overwhelm them with my powers. Basically Homelander. So you take this logic in mind with the bat family and their insane training regiment of their body and mind, them being able to react to light level attacks is a pretty easy feat for them.

[@adinhansen3768]

If I remember correctly Miguel was able to catch Mjolnir at one point. If that’s still canon and high end speeds are used then Miguel would blitz Terry in close quarters.

[@yashaoftheflames8475]

Daniel LaRusso ( Karate Kid 1) vs Dre Parker (Karate Kid 2010) who is truly The Karate Kid

[@CoolOkay_]

8:49 What if he means that collectively? Like them as a unit are masters of every martial art instead of individually? Should that still scale the same way?

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

That is such a weird assumption to make

[@CoolOkay_]

@@CRISIS_COMICS One may call me a professional at being unnecessary

[@mgood356]

6:35 Did batman just punch the reverse flash or am i dreaming even batman fans know this is to much plot armor

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

"Plot armor" is the worst argument

[@Consiliarioconscripti]

@@CRISIS_COMICS not necessarily, characters are amped up all the time to fulfill plot needs, otherwise loads of stories just wouldn't be possible.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@Consiliarioconscripti If it's a part of the plot, then it's a feat. How is it at all a debunk?

[@fisal8942]

@@Consiliarioconscripti everything in story is part of the plot

[@Consiliarioconscripti]

@@CRISIS_COMICS It's a debunk when you take a look at consistency bro, as an example. Spider-Man beating firelord. Spider-mans own feats don't scale him to that level, taking it further when you look at his rogues gallery as 99% of them aren't anywhere near firelords level.

[@lexmatthewtheurbanavenger8538]

Batman beyond

[@haidynsworld3820]

I'm going to have to vote Batman Beyond for this one mainly because he has more gadgets and he was trained by Bruce Wayne himself while Miguel meanwhile didn't get any of the same training doesn't have Spider Sense and has organic webbing oh and did I forget to mention that Miguel also has extremely bad light-sensitive vision light sensitive vision is so bad he has to wear sunglasses indoors for crying out loud so Batman Beyond could use is flash grenades to take advantage of Miguel's extremely sensitive eyesight so I think the winner of this battle would be Batman Beyond

[@benparrish672]

Miguel O'Hara Spider-Man 2099 defeats Terry McGinnis-Wayne 8/10 times. Miguel fights dirty & for keeps.

[@phill13able]

This fight is a cannon event

[@kristopherdorsey8561]

Wait what's the high end for superman 2099?

[@johnbarnes9303]

Just some broken ribs... dude even one small fracture on a rib bone is enough to make a grown man shit his pants and call his mama

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

?

[@johnbarnes9303]

@@CRISIS_COMICS no you said batman walked out of a fight with just a few broken ribs 🤭 you said that like it was nothing 😂

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@johnbarnes9303 Yeah, I mean compared to being vaporized... he pretty much tanked it.

[@johnbarnes9303]

@@CRISIS_COMICS 🤣 right

[@johnbarnes9303]

@@CRISIS_COMICS I think it's better to be vaporized coz you won't feel a thing rather than living with broken bones

[@Ace-3.]

God bless you all and have a wonderful day ❤

[@Lechgang]

Terry and it ain't close

[@emerald_sustrai2002]

Better then death battle lol