Spider-Man 4 & Avengers Doomsday Plan Revealed by Tom Holland?

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[@oliviafrancis-g7y]

15 minutes ago.. but the video released 4 minutes ago. WITCH! WITCH!

[@KantoKait]

When will Deadpool 3 be on Disney Plus?!

[@BeerGeek21]

I've actually had one of these masks for quite a while, and they are worth it.

[@fructosefatherprime]

Does the possibility exist that Spiderman 4 would be similar to Civil War? an avengers film not titled an avengers film

[@Powerful-Primate26]

Why didn't you include or do a whole video on the Production Weekly info that dropped all about Spiderman 4? I'm guessing you didn't have the info yet?

[@ChristopherJohn4389]

SpiderMan: Homecoming SpiderMan 2: Far From Home SpiderMan 3: No Way Home SpiderMan 4: Dude, Wheres My Home?

[@eugenevakulenko4229]

Home Gone

[@cheguenikos]

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[@DanKing-f6f]

​@@cheguenikos Home alone

[@PedroPerez-w5j]

Where's your home, dude?

[@chaseb4720]

Dooms Home

[@littlereddstar5264]

Tom Holland has basically become Sony’s RDJ. Which is why RDJ approached Tom to give him advice on how to negotiate/renew his contract with Sony. RDJ said something along the lines of “Sony needs you(Tom) more than he needs them.” It felt like Tom hadn’t necessarily been 100% sure he wanted to be back at first . That’s when Kevin and RDJ told him about RDJ Doom and why they needed him back. Talking about the bigger picture. Which is why he and Zendaya got the scripts.

[@stevenmoffett3460]

11:53 not necessarily. Antman and the wasp came out between infinity war and endgame and was set directly before infinity war yet still set up endgame. Spiderman 4 could do that too.

[@dionringgold]

My exact thoughts when he said that.

[@rahulg5271]

But keep in mind spiderman is main character in doomsday. Antman was not in infinity war. His story was unknown to people hence they showed it even after infinity war. But here spidey will be main lead then Whats point of showing his backstory when you already know his future.

[@TheMagicalScientist]

@@rahulg5271yea it only works if Spidey isn’t in Doomsday

[@spookykouki8970]

I would enjoy this idea

[@wyattangle]

I came to say this!

[@sparkfadingspark]

Jeez it sounds like Tom and Zendaya won't be sleeping next year with their filming schedules 😅

[@davidletarte214]

the degenerate in me hopes they don't do too much "sleeping" when they're together anyway 😱💘

[@nic8689]

@@davidletarte214 weird

[@ashley.taylor174]

@@davidletarte214 Romantic. 😂

[@IndianaJake]

@@davidletarte214 really weird & obsessive

[@soultheinterrogator]

They might not be sleeping with each other either hahahaha 😂😉😜 JK

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

Holland would be crazy to not ask for a bigger role. He's essential to the franchise at this point. He knows it. Sony knows it. As a fan he knows what works and it can't hurt to have someone else keeping an eye on Sony so they don't try and do 'No Way Home 2'.

[@magister343]

Hard to see why though. He is without a doubt the worst of the Spiderman actors.

[@mr.iiconic]

​@@magister343 not saying much

[@nuvjoti]

I wonder if Fiege had a talk with Tom to make sure Tom can be the Marvel Studios advocate in the room to talk Sony out of doing dumb shit.

[@cantevenandrew]

​@@magister343what a trash take, no way home literally proved that all three of the spiders are as good as each other

[@JordanWest-w3f]

The one thing that NO ONE wants except for Sony lol. They’re literally the worst. Spider-Man’s worst enemy to date.

[@WhiteRaven696]

Tommy boy was fighting for dear life in that interview, my GOD. LMAO

[@JB-1138]

What?

[@evelynwashere13]

How?

[@keithwoodcrest]

10:14 I don't think it means this is certain at all. It could also just mean that Tom Holland and Downey Jr are just really close friends and he told him about his return. Could also mean Holland was just a part of this conversations in general since he now has more power. We gotta stop assuming so much

[@mailyak442]

I thought that too but like NDAs? MCU actors can’t tell literally ANYONE

[@Gemini-Lion]

Marvel NDAs are no joke. Tom Holland being made aware of this means that he was SUPPOSED to know

[@Piryce_Christian]

It's hilarious how careful tom is to answer questions. i can guarantee he thought at least 5 times in that interview "Am I allowed to say that"

[@Blackwingdesigns]

I don’t think the whole movie will be Doom destroying alternate universes. Having a Doctor Doom destroy universes we have no attachment to won’t emotionally affect people. It would have to be specific iterations of characters because with a multiverse there’s always another version somewhere, there are stakes but not really.

[@leafmamba]

Wait if Doomsday ends up about Dr Doom targeting anchor beings from all other universes and not yet coming into contact with 616 universe... maybe it's setting up that Spiderman IS the 616 anchor being, which is very fitting imo

[@mathiasfrandsen5468]

you know what that actually explains why marvel all off a sudden introduced us to anchor being i think this will be the story! i like the way you think

[@emilyniedbala]

That’s so interesting that Tom knew about RDJ since I just listened to a podcast with Sebastian Stan where he said he had no idea even while in the back room at comic con until he took off the mask

[@jaleiamorris7818]

So does that implicate that Holland was also at the retreat? So they might have contacted him after.

[@jennimurphy1779]

not sure how likely it is but i know that tom and robert are just really close anyway, so it could just be a case of rdj letting him know a bit in advance?

[@evelynwashere13]

It makes sense. Tom and RDJ are really close.

[@mathiasfrandsen5468]

@@jennimurphy1779 thats so sweet of rdj if thats the case, that was also what i was thinking

[@c.h.gproductions3589]

I feel like spiderman is currently under equipped to face an end of world threat so during secret wars he’ll probably have to meet up with Reed Richard to get his future foundation upgrade.

[@mackenziesizemore5392]

8:54 LOVE the sneaky Uncle Ben/Aunt May quote there. Tom now has great power and great responsibility in the MCU creative process. Love that.

[@erinich17]

I was wondering if he even realized he said it, like is it just stuck in his brain now

[@jonsturgill6508]

Holland has said he doesn't want to play Spidey into his thirties and would only do Spidey 4 if it was worth it. I'm thinking we're getting Miles by the end of Secret Wars.

[@StridentCandy35]

He literally has a contract for another trilogy dawg he ain’t going nowhere till after that

[@jonsturgill6508]

@@StridentCandy35 "til you're ninety."

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

That's not what he said

[@mr.q337]

Nah, Tom is just trying to cover his ass =))) They gonna milk him until he's 90 =))))

[@ewanjmcgregor]

He said that wasn’t true.

[@femiogundipe767]

I think marvel shouldn’t have announced RDJ as Doom. It should have been left for audiences to see in the movie so people would go ballistic in theatres worldwide.

[@jcIIXVIIIVII]

There would be NO WAY they'd be able to keep a secret THAT big for THAT long lol RDJ isn't Tobey or Andrew lol

[@TheScottishArtist]

Marvel Producers when Tom Holland spoils everything he knows about a film: "Let's make him be more involved with plot and writing."

[@gamerghxst]

I think they need a break apart the story a little bit. Instead of everything revolving around this Multiverse BS they should have three stories going simultaneously that overlap once in a while with an avengers crossover. Sticking with a street level story, a worldwide story, and a cosmic story. Put which heroes match with which story and just tell those with them overlapping once in a while for an avengers crossover that is too big for any one team to handle. Let people pick which story they follow and we can all just enjoy avengers movies that way from whichever team we’ve chose to follow’s point of view.

[@gamerghxst]

Example: Spidey, Daredevil, etc. for Street Level. Cap, Bucky, Thunderbolts, etc. for Worldwide. Strange, Thor, Guardians, Eternals, etc. for Cosmic & Magic.

[@deggyG]

Doomsday needs to focus on building Doom’s plan and background. Very much like Thanos. However, the creation of Battleworld (which would be the equivalent of the Snap) needs to be saved for the end of Secret Wars. Having Doom introduced and defeated in the same phase would a disservice to the character along with the actor himself. Therefore, phase 6 needs an extension or they move to a phase 7 to close out the saga. This would give us time to have a whole phase potentially set up on Battleworld - that way they get to tell the stories that they need to tell. They just don’t truly need to rush the ending. RDJ Doom needs to be defeated in a later set of Avengers films after the many characters have traveled thru Battleworld and made their way to Doom in God Emperor form.

[@KaiyeWest]

Spiderman 4 could be how they introduce the young avengers with avengers doomsday focusing on the avengers guardians etc, spiderman 4 bringing together all the heroes (which we start to see at the the end of the marvels) then secret wars having both avengers and young avengers

[@craig1669]

How many mcu fans would have refused to watch any movies/series/specials etc BECAUSE Jonathan Majors kept his role as Kang? It wouldn't have stopped me happily paying at the cinema and my Disney+ subscription to see how that story unfolded.

[@bluephoenix_z3364]

Same

[@MyLibertyTV]

None that actually mattered. I think most people think he was innocent anyway.

[@virtualrealityfitness283]

👍

[@akinsey11]

I still would've watched. I believe the relationship was just toxic af.

[@galactecisglasius4346]

I didn't cared about Jonathan major or what he was doing. As long as he played the character well. They could easily build him back up in one or two projects before avengers, but instead we get nostalgia Doom, not even permanent doom for the mcu.

[@huncho8967]

Spiderman surviving doomsday confirmed

[@Eforeverything_3000]

Why are we assuming this, Spierman could be like atman and the wasp, not nescessacarilly set after Doomsday, could be set before?

[@foreign_maddogmamorris809]

It’s not assuming it’s an educated wish

[@graciegirl2658]

I hope they talk about how RDJ played both Tony Stark an Dr Doom so I hope there is a plot line where Peter is dealing with the fact that his mentor who died looked like a variant of Dr Doom. I will be so upset if something like this doesn’t happen

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

You can't not take advantage of him being both Tony and Doom and it'll be the big question on so many people's minds.

[@swizzrilla5969]

They could easily ignore Tony Stark completely, and pretend that RDJ's Dr Doom is someone else completely unknown to the entire MCU roster. Don't be surprised when Happy Hogan show's no reaction whatsoever if Dr Doom reveals his face.

[@Nate-616]

13:53 I’m so glad your taking your time during Halloween Candy, Costumes, Candy, Scary, Candy

[@bantuboi3131]

I was hoping for a smaller story with Daredevil and Peter fighting Kingpin and Scorpion.

[@uzii7291]

Honestly coming from the mcu timeline it’s been 3 years since no way home so technically Peter would be almost done with college. If he went anyw

[@lordofninjas1]

No, not really. No Way Home took place near the end of 2024 (like it's literally around December), and the MCU is currently in 2026 (going by In-Universe time, not real world time like you are), so Peter would really only be around the start of his Sophomore year (year 2) for college, which is a nice parallel since Homecoming was during his Sophomore Year of High School.

[@MiorAdibZulkifli-ni9qh]

​@@lordofninjas1Eh, why the MCU's in 2026, according to what source?

[@lordofninjas1]

@@MiorAdibZulkifli-ni9qh the source is the literal timeline of the movies and shows themselves, you can look in the timeline book they released, many articles around the internet, or even figuring it out by what's said and shown in the movies and shows. Infinity War is in 2018, then Endgame takes place 5 years later in 2023, Wandavision states it's been about a few weeks after Endgame, and Agatha All Along says it's been 3 years since Wandavision, so 2026. There are other ways to figure it out from the shows and movies too, that's just the easiest way to figure it out.

[@Forriedude]

Why does SM4 have to be a bridge? Captain Marvel wasn't, other than the credits sequence.

[@Nob0d1KnowsTarot]

“Hello Peter” Peter: “Mr Stark??” Doom: “No, Mr Spark HYEH🧟‍♂️⚡️”

[@zom8680]

That's so lame, and it actually works

[@stevenmoffett3460]

If Disney wanted to play hardball they could let spiderman 4 get into development with the intention that they are going to delay doomsday last minute to effectively make it impossible for Sony to release the movie on time

[@blowc1612]

Then they would get sued sabotaging Sony on purpose.

[@RockPlays]

One can dream!😂😂

[@lordfarquad229]

Sony would still release it and Marvel canon be dammed

[@blowc1612]

@@lordfarquad229 they won't be able to as their contract says that Marvel have rights on the film as a co-producer.

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

As much as I'd love that Kevin Feige would'nt do something like that that unless Sony does something to really piss him off. He likes to find the middle ground where everyone can be happy, Sony does'nt deserve that level of respect but well we're not the ones in those meetings.

[@Itstotallymyname]

I wouldn’t assume that zen days will play as huge of a role this time, he could have just meant it as he as his SO read it together?

[@wheattoast1971]

This pitch makes sense except for one thing, Doom would not be trying to destroy the multiverse. I don’t know why everyone pitches that. He would be working to save it from someone else, someone like Kang’s variants ORRRR Knull. Think of this. In Fantastic Four: First Steps, Reed asks for Doom’s help against Galactus, and Doom says that while Reed tries to save their world Doom is busy trying to save ALL worlds. In Doomsday (this could also be the plot of Doctor Strange 3 instead of Strange facing Dormammu) we see him working with 616 Strange and maybe Clea to stop the universes from being destroyed. Maybe Knull also wiped out all the Kangs, but the Kangs could also be this bigger villain. Maybe Knull goes from universe to universe destroying all of it. Doom Strange and Clea go from place to place trying to save the heroes they can including Tobey and Andrew, Ghost Rider, and Deadpool and Wolverine before their universes face annihilation. That should be the case. I would say there is that bit of symbiote in the 616 reality, but Venom 3 retconned that.

[@KylaSpruce]

It always Tom telling 😂😂😂😂

[@jaimemitra2003]

Thank you please have more of these especially for those who don’t watch Agatha

[@NinBarson]

He can't keep getting away with this

[@Scifi4life]

We want scorpion for a 4th film.

[@PowDerFul]

8:50 "What having that kind of power means and that responsibility" "With great power comes great responsibility" Intentional or not that's funny and cool as hell

[@Castor7666]

Are going to get Ned as a secret villain mastermind to go against Peter? They no longer have a shared history and friendship..... MJ rivalry?

[@Fnaffan777]

I’m really curious as to how street level/cosmic this next film will be, because it can go either way at this point.

[@vinylmogwai]

i think they’re just going to swap the movie release dates or push back both the avengers movies

[@abigailkmayuni4844]

No

[@ahmedshayan4818]

Really excited for it all ,let’s go 🙌

[@petertomshany]

Excellent expectation management there at the tail end .. y’all work so damn hard

[@turtumurtu3295]

i like your predictions for the plot makes a lot of sense

[@itsAvP_]

yeah he wants to introduce miles morales here

[@PrecariousPorcupine]

I hope so, I love Miles Morales!

[@nordicsilver9675]

Tooooo early for that, like no

[@trevcar]

​@@nordicsilver9675he could be used to lead the young avengers since they dont have a popular character

[@casterivo]

They said the live action for him will come after he spiderverse saga

[@TheBlurReturns16]

I think he should be in the last 3rd trilogy.

[@jakebutler9808]

The multiverse Saga is Kang/Doom focused, both have a role to play

[@ribottostudio]

I think it's really great that Tom and Downey have this mentor mentee relationship. He's so open about it, and I can easily see him being in that same mentor role to someone else, who might want to be a live action Miles Morales.

[@cursebarklee41]

He needs a small cameo in Dare Devil Born again

[@skersein]

no

[@_DreamzGaming]

It releases on my birthday

[@HudsonJesusisKing]

Happy birthday 🎉

[@Ajwilkie]

As Tom Holland intended.

[@themrnoob0]

Cool, now you have to hope its a good movie and not shit lol

[@MadamWilson]

@@themrnoob0and you’ll still go watch it lame

[@themrnoob0]

​@@MadamWilsonI don't go to movie theaters. I will watch it if its considered good after a few days of release not just because its spiderman

[@nuvjoti]

regarding SM4 having Avengers 5 elements, I feel like D&W had that too. I wonder if part of that story just swapped Kang for Cassandra Nova in the void, and Avengers: Kang Dynasty would've just been Avengers characters fighting the Kang Dynasty in the void with multiversal cameos.

[@angelcervantes9782]

NR putts out great content.

[@spiderwraith0]

I dont think Doom should say "Hello, Peter" but i love the idea of watching Doom go on a rampage for 2 and a half hours

[@Pamalou815]

Two words responding to your theory….nailed it!

[@SeanWright-py8it]

Disney definitely lead the charge against Johnathan Majors as an excuse to bring RDJ back

[@Tom-_-Hanks]

Thanks, thumbs up, have a great day.

[@Comixknowledge30]

I don’t know how they are doing Secret Wars when that’s Marvel’s Crisis on Infinite Earths.

[@Kllgg]

Good for you for putting your family & personal health over work. Your kids are worth it.

[@kori-ander]

I feel you made this video before the release of Venom 3 🤔

[@Yoona_lim_friend]

That would be crazy Peter meeting Downey as Doom

[@KastorCigma]

Mr Holland lookin’ all sun-kissed

[@HotboyGaming81]

That would be awesome to see Peter as a struggling KZbin Creator that would be hilarious…but would bring the character to date instead of working at the daily bugle since we all get our news and gossip from KZbin in this day and age

[@maxcondie75]

Venom on a mentally broken Parker is obvious plot on its way

[@Thee-_-Outlier]

Im still waiting for the live action Miles Morales spiderman film titled Spiderhomie

[@BiancaFyre]

3:41 I just realized this. WTFFFFFFF is Spiderman hooking his web onto swing away on lol

[@Jbell_marvelking]

Uncle Ben 💀 or more accurately Tony stark 💀💀💀

[@kyleashby882]

Wait a minute what if and just hear me out on this spiderman 2 the game was hopefully a test to put symbiotes in different places and see how people react so they can do it for the mcu and know how to do it right

[@damonijohnson4752]

Exactly!!!!! I’ve been trying to tell ppl they are going to time skip sm4 and make it exact to the game

[@Benlovescheese]

My theory is the first either 20-30 mins or first half of SM4 is street level and warps into multiverse level after, the compromise both sides would have liked years ago.

[@b.c.animation4518]

Oh my God =))) The way you guys can squeeze 15 out of "... yeah there's going to be another spiderman movie..."=))) And I can't help myself and I still click on the video

[@cj1684]

$100mil is fk'd up, how about some of that money, travels further down the chain into VFX and crew pockets rather than managment ?! and the suits who do very little

[@michaelencinas7855]

I think they should give them a few million or so each for the main stars and then put the rest in cgi and etc

[@williambowers4903]

I think part 4 will take place in Battle World. Didn't Marvel just reveal everything in between Doomsday and Secret Wars is in Battle World?

[@carinahatlevoll153]

Yes but someone said last night that doomsday can be push back to november 10. Also if the leeked script is true then sony need to get beyond apiderverse out before spiderman 4 wirh tom comes out and last time i checked that movie is delayed to late 2026 or early 2027

[@DiorLouis]

So does venom , morbius & etc not count when it comes to Sony having to release a “Spiderman” film..

[@thefragranceapothecary7281]

I’m thinking time jump to either senior year or year after college graduation.

[@16_bit_Jitu]

F4 sets up Von Doom as a Character who wants to be strongest being in the multiverse ,Doomsday sets up Doom as a Villain who becomes the strongest, Spiderman 4 fights a being from another universe who tries to do everything so Dr.Doom doesn't find this one but goes wrong. last act Dr.Doom enters. Doom sets up the Battleworld in the first Part of Secret wars and Spiderman ends everything with 2nd part of Secret wars .

[@damonijohnson4752]

Tony’s alter ego vs his prodigy

[@DixieMunroux]

I believe they’re doing the story where Doom & Tony swap bodies or minds if you will .

[@SubRaider]

I wonder if we’ll ever see the bombastic bagman😅🤣🔥

[@tmcrae433]

I think you're right about Holland and RDJ facing off in Spiderman 4. Spiderman 3 left off with him knowing that no one will remember him and I think a key part of Spiderman 4s story will be that Peter simply thinks "Mr. Stark" just doesn't remember him vs (Doom) not knowing him. I bet that picture of him and Tony from Endgame will be a plot device.

[@CalicoEvrywerigo]

Doom gives us the SinisterSix

[@Dustinmrr.mp4]

Do the 5 Years and 9 Months only count for live action movies or animated as well?

[@tdlmat_]

But you are forgetting that doom will probably create battleworld in doomsday so he probably has already been to 616.

[@ogutierrez82]

I'm still not on board with Downey Doom.

[@akinsey11]

I would've been like the next big villan. I still wanted to see the Kang story unfold

[@bishopwhite1822]

I was very excited for Nathaniel Richards. I hope that Doom keeps the mask on.

[@parkerfitness7173]

I need some doom seeds before we get there!

[@gamerofthesith5275]

My wife bought me the Agatha shirt with all of them flying past the blood moon from your shop for my birthday, and I'll be proudly wearing it on Halloween.

[@DyaalSamra]

takes forever for these movies to get made

[@XeRo333]

So, are we ever gonna get anything regarding the Sinister Six tease we got at the end of Homecoming, or was that just tossed aside?!

[@John_Zatanna]

so we wont have another neighborhood sp movie after homecoming?

[@CalicoEvrywerigo]

❤Franco showed up in No Way Home and wasn't sent back… but thinks his dad is still in 616 when he finds Kingpin 13:46

[@whomilloo]

ATP Marvel is definitely telling Tom to do this to build hype 😂

[@Silver-o1h]

13:36 Peter if that moment happens: WHAT THE F-

[@grahamsmith2487]

There is no symbiot left in the 616 universe, Venom the last dance made sure of that 😭

[@damonijohnson4752]

Oscorp has it

[@TomE.V.]

Spiderman 4s main villian should be his Barber

[@timmanto1022]

Empire State University. Silver Sable or another mutant like Emma Frost love triangle with MJ and Harry Osborn would be crazy. I hope they do an Ultimates alternative Avengers (maybe use that name instead of West Coast Avengers) and do a Miles Morales movie with Rhenzy Feliz as Miles Morales. I would think that would be the perfect casting given his popularity in the penguin. You can do a Spider-men type story.

[@NeuvilletteHydroDragon]

WAIT JULY 24???? THATS ACTUALLY DURING MY BIRTHDAY

[@TheBamaman88]

I still think they should have waited and kept secret about Downey as Doom. Imagine in Avengers Doomsday not only Peter Parker and the Avengers but all us seeing Doom unmask himself and the surprise on everyone's face.

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

Are you kidding with how whiny this fanbase has gotten revealing that right upfront was the smartest thing they could've done. I can already picture how that would've gone if they decided to keep that hidden until a trailer or something. This way it's out in the open and most people will be more level headed about it by the time we do get the first trailer.

[@DrNaviMD]

The movie HAS to be about addiction, a lonely Peter gets the symbiote, you can make a reversal on how the symbiote was "addicted" to Peter and how mad it became when Peter left it, this would be a Peter dealing with the symbiote and it is HIM who can't cope with losing it.

[@itsavdr3]

terrible idea

[@IndianaJake]

sounds awful

[@yoshuaj.2912]

wait but didn’t the piece of symbiote left there was taken by the tva?

[@Tylerwag214]

I think that the whole plot

[@OfficialKoharu]

Marvel should have casted me as Spiderman, i'm American and Spiderman is American not british and i'm more handsome than Thomas Holland who even admits his heart is not in it anymore and i think he should relinquish his role as Spiderman to me.

[@larrylouie]

Still waiting for the Clone Saga...

[@DanielBuckwheat]

13:45 isn’t that just doc oc tho 😭😭

[@Jeboyyy69]

Spiderman: ❌ Spoilerman: ✅

[@therealangelosettler]

Does Captain America 4 and or the thunderbolts have a role in stuff too?

[@ujjwalgupta228]

Venom is alive

[@KingKeiigh]

5:34 no that’s just the interview referencing Dr Strange’s qoute

[@DEXODUS]

because hes likely to only know because its relevant information. Another way to say this is they wouldn't have told him if they didn't have to.

[@KingKeiigh]

@ no he’s likely to know because he watched the movies of the person he’s interviewing