Spider-Man No Way Home: The Green Goblin Explained | Comics Explained

[@seanpenn180]

Norman's waves are unmatched 🌊🌊🌀

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Check out Deadpool #12 (The Joe Kelly series.) for a thesis on the Osborn hair.

[@SwagDaSlik]

lmao 😭

[@jojomojofofo]

That boy is swimmin’

[@jamichealruiz8640]

Facts lmao 😂🤣 boy is 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊

[@kamendmtrv]

But the one thing they love more than a hero, is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you’ve done for them, eventually, they will hate you. Why bother? -The Green Goblin

[@kingshadow8782]

Hell Yeah!!!

[@matthewschwartz6607]

That was from the first Spider-Man movie, right?

[@tompotter8703]

@@matthewschwartz6607 Yep. There’s the possibility that he might be projecting the fact that he was fired from Oscorp despite being the founder and contributor, and sees Spider-Man as a kindred spirit in a twisted sort of way.

[@max.m3707]

The Green Goblin: “What about my generous offer...are you in or are you out” Spiderman: “You're the one that's out Gobby, out of your mind.” The Green Goblin: “NO ONE SAYS NO TO ME.”

[@jamieOKD]

@@kingshadow8782 za a

[@econno8172]

Those waves are a brave fashion statement for Norman

[@LeBearax]

beyond omega level: Norman's do-rag. The man has waves

[@GraemeGunn]

I'm not sure what's going on with this "meme", but no, Norman Osborne was never shown wearing a "durag". Edit: oh I see now, some people don't actually know what a durag is. The Green Goblin wears a mask that looks like it's got a cowl on. Edit 2: you don't need to wear anything on your head to be able to slick back your hair.

[@blacksquirdward3301]

@@GraemeGunn lmao u don't like Norman with waves.

[@blaqueboywonder9163]

🤣🤣🤣💯💯

[@JayFadeAwayy]

@@GraemeGunn my guy its a joke

[@djspit8929]

@@GraemeGunn thats why its beyond omega level. We never once see it, but his waves are always undeniably perfect. Thus, he must have a quality durag to craft them.

[@Nickalzz]

I love how nwh did him. It was chilling when he flipped to the green goblin and those fighting‘l scenes in the condo were fucking amazing you really get a sense for how dangerous the green goblin is when he’s power bombing Spider-Man through floors I love the old Spider-Man movies but they just didn’t do him the same justice as this movie did he seem like a legitimate threat like an equal to Spider-Man that could have easily killed him

[@johnnysocket76]

I've always wanted who ever played Norman to try to get the waves in their hair😂😂

[@storiestotell]

Me too ✋ 😆

[@matthewschwartz6607]

OJ already has them.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Harry Osborn has the drip too. He has a chain and turtleneck like The Rock

[@trevorghalt1881]

The goblin cap does wonders for his hair and I'm glad they didn't get some random swinging ditko to be Green Goblin

[@calumhouston3308]

I would have preferred it if they didn't bother with Raimi-verse. Or Spider-verse in general tbh

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

@@calumhouston3308 what do you mean by that

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

I love how Norman's only real theme with his gimmick and his arsenal is "Halloween and my purse." Also, did someone say *eye glows red* Gaaaaaaahblins? The only good Goblin is a goblin who doesn't crawl out of their stinkin' holes!

[@bubblerap415]

I get the reference, but who is down to slay?

[@jeremybrimmer1990]

The subtitles tho

[@GVOSOUL]

😂😂😂 “Halloween and my purse” He’s always pulling something out of there

[@MARCUS98765]

Oh yes green goblin the most wavey Spider-Man villain Norman has top tier 360 waves

[@brendanwade3483]

Son put every black person in the Marvel universe to shame 🤣🤣😭😭 son had that wave cap 🧢

[@RaVisions]

Sandman too

[@darthdever66]

I think Rob has telepathy cause I was literally just wondering the other day if he had a Green Goblin explained video lmao 😂

[@mr.joshua6818]

Same lol

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Maybe The Hobgoblin is next? That would be cool.

[@Teleportdinero__FortniteGod]

@@matthewschwartz6607 greetings i am Super teleportdinero i am friend not foe

[@Zacaplaya]

He held a poll a few days ago of which characters to do after doc Oc and green goblin was one of the options...I guess it won

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Maybe they can do Bart Hamilton.

[@two4328]

I have got to say this and the Casually Comics channel are for me always the most enjoyable to watch, just because of the effort put into and the excitement of the videos.

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

Omg I love Casually Comics too. They have shown me the weirdest things in comic history lol 😂

[@two4328]

@@questworldiangreenknight7455 Some of the weirdest are the Lois Lane stories. Lois Lane marries so many people, even villains and even a monster.

[@jusskb5]

Norman's on Sabbatical, honey... that line was just amazing

[@moongoosemcqueen]

I never understood how they let character like Norman or Luther gain any time of government power with all the crazy things they did lol

[@kylestewart6282]

Because comics...Lots of stuff doesn't really make a lot of sense

[@claytonknudtson7628]

Bro you're reading a book with superheros. People fly and lift buildings and break reality and the unbelievable part is that Americans vote responsibly?

[@moongoosemcqueen]

@@claytonknudtson7628 no if you read what I'm taking about its funny. That's all

[@joenathan8059]

Comic books run off soap opera logic

[@ANite-vx1vk]

Money. Osborn and Luthor are obscenely wealthy, and intelligent. They could afford to pay off anyone with questionable morals. Or, alternatively, get rid of dissenters to pave the way for people who would back them. This happens in real life. The US alone is packed with officials who accept deals that hurt *everyone and everything else* but it gets them ahead. Like. That's unnervingly realistic.

[@Kasheoo]

norman better drop that wave method 🌊

[@GVOSOUL]

Marvel & Sony: *DROPS PUMPKIN BOMB & QUES GOBLIN’S LAUGHTER* Fans: DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IVE SACRIFICED!?

[@ROUGHSEES]

😂😂😂 top tier dafoe quote

[@keyoskss615]

“God speaks Spider-Man 😐”

[@TheeKingRayzor]

"Sleep."

[@chrismichael7374]

@@TheeKingRayzor you're literally both wrong... its God speed

[@TheeKingRayzor]

@@chrismichael7374 I wasn't wrong, in the first Spider-Man, Green Goblin sprayed Spider-Man with sleeping gas, and said sleep.

[@NoVACorpsGaming]

Rob, I hope you talk about Norman’s Waves… or imma be mad

[@bentouta5]

Ctfu Norman really looked like Phil Coulson with a black man's hairstyle.

[@marcelcjr9313]

Headcanon, Norman is lightskin black

[@genkaiba15]

@@anggraenix3566 ...what? Does this relate to hair!?! 🤣

[@two4328]

@@genkaiba15 The persons a scammer

[@samopati3496]

always kinda thought that Norman Osborn’s name was a play on the idea that he was always something different as the GG. As in the name “Nor Man (or no man) was born”…pointing to him being something other

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Ah, good insight. I never thought of that.

[@alexlazzerly3677]

Or it's just Norman Osborn.

[@darkslayer1161]

Normal man is green goblins alter ego.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Or Norman aka normal

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Or MAN because in spectacular Spider-Man TV show he wants Harry to MAN up

[@BovineDesigns]

I remember thinking how terrifying the Marvel Universe would be back when I first learned about Dark Reign. It really felt overwhelmingly hopeless for the heroes.

[@michaelw.8331]

Norman Osborne: All of New York: Wave check, wave check, ooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

[@RealOberonn13]

ya know, I'm something of a comics fan myself.

[@devinturner5356]

Awwww thanks rob buddy idk if you saw my comment earlier but I asked for a video for my bday and Spider-Man is my childhood favorite superhero so thanks for the video made my day that much better big dawg

[@woodbridgesfinest1904]

My favorite Marvel villain, cant wait to see him in No Way Home!

[@two4328]

My favorite marvel villain is also going to appear, Doc Oc. Man can't wait for the supposed team up.

[@denniscleary7580]

I’m psyched to have Toby back in the spandex

[@upscaleunveiled]

Umm what

[@galsameloof5590]

The three spandex spiders

[@RoyalBack]

If he shows up

[@johnlawful2272]

Would if we also get the guy from the 70's too

[@stormylykins1370]

@@RoyalBack i have leaked photos. Hes in it

[@glydoughnut9432]

Rob. Please cover Dark Reign since you love it so much

[@Alejandro333777]

4:29 hmm gives me first movie vibes

[@youngmoneyclutch]

when they were at thanksgiving?

[@frankocana3904]

Since we’re on spider related topics let’s get some more spider-Gwen content on here WE NEED IT ROB 🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@randolphsmith7552]

Can you do a comics explained on Osborne’s hair? What kind of hair is that? I can’t be the only one wondering this. He looks like a white dude with 360 waves 😂

[@kaisolomon5187]

Man's has groundbreaking durag technology

[@k_tess]

White boy chiming in. Can we do that? Can our hair do that?

[@kaisolomon5187]

@@k_tess nah, if you try the waves will be flat

[@jtoonchi6525]

12:46 Rob you missed the chance to say "hither to undreamt of"

[@Jdawgwatchr56]

My all time favorite Spider-man villain.

[@jesster9532]

Love this guy

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Norman’s origin was also told in Amazing Spider-Man #25 and Peter Parker #25. The storyline where Norman kidnaps Peter and tries to brainwash him into his heir.

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Becoming his heir, I mean.

[@thepresence9652]

Gotta do infinite frontier rob and explain that ending. With the great beast and that omega earth supposedly everyone is at

[@corygillis3658]

Stan Lee was a genius when it came to building character depth. Unparalleled talent. RIP legend.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

I love Green Goblin 2001’s mechanical pumpkin bombs Seeing Iron Patriot team up with Moonstone to destroy was awesome

[@donovanjr284]

Beyond omega level invisible woman

[@tygerskull]

Osborn's affair with Gwen Stacy has since been retconned as false memories implanted by Kindred(Harry Osborn)and Mendel Strom.

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Wait, WHAT? How did HARRY do that?

[@JusChez]

"Precious few fans would say that this was a good story." Lmaaaaao

[@justinrogers9122]

Do you think they'll hold off Tobey until the final shot/mid credit scene or just Dr. Strange 2 since that's being directed by Sam raimi?

[@issy785]

tobey’s spidey won’t have a role in doctor strange 2, he’ll most likely be sent back to his world after NWH

[@djspot123]

Beyond omega level: The upside down man

[@tompotter8703]

My favourite version would be Spectacular Spider-Man, mostly because Steve Blum gives the Goblin persona a sense of theatricality and whimsy alongside the menace, there’s the fact that Norman is depicted as a ruthless businessman from the start, to the point he would frame his own son and fake his death to get out of jail. Unlike in other media where the Goblin is depicted as split personality, the Goblin persona is literally a mask, making Norman all the more despicable.

[@novaspacewitch9963]

Every time I hear the Gwen Stacy death story I'm like, there's literally no way Peter is responsible for her death. Even if she was killed by the whiplash, she would've been paste on the pavement if he hadn't tried. He gets a pass for killing Norman too. It's pretty much identical to saying MCU Spider-Man killed Mysterio.

[@two4328]

Well, in all truth he didn't have to shoot the web at that specific spot. There were other places the web could have hit. But yeah her death was unavoidable unless peter just decided to deal with Harry after getting Gwen to the ground.

[@matthewschwartz6607]

In the comics, Peter kills her by accident. But in the comics he DIDN’T kill Norman after! He was going to, but he stopped himself. Norman tried to impale Peter with his glider so that he would kill him, but Peter avoided it at the last minute , and it impaled Osborn instead.

[@MarchallWhite12345]

What if Ra's al Ghul got the Ten Rings What if Doctor Strange got the Helmet of Fate What if Darkseid got the Cosmic Cube What if Deadpool got the Mask What if Darkseid fought The Avengers. What if Thanos got the Anti-Life Equation What if Shang-Chi was the Iron Fist What if Superman landed in Asguard What if the Batman Who Laughs invaded the Marvel Universe

[@marcoa6319]

What I would like to see for Osborn in the MCU would be a major villain in Phase 5. After going through the potential Kang arc with the multiverse, I would like for the MCU to downscale for a bit to focus primarily on Earth. The MCU has basically went from semi realistic to a society where heroes are now common place. Phase 5 can be the Dark Reign era in the comics in which Osborn is the leading figure in the hero community. He can produce villain mercenaries or promote false heroes so that he can profit from superhuman conflicts.

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Actually Rob, Norman DID return before Amazing #96! He returned in the second issue of the Spectacular Spider-Man Magazine. It picked up on Norman’s amnesia from issue #40. Check it out, it’s actually pretty cool.

[@BovineDesigns]

If I had a dime for every Marvel character that had alcoholic parents, I would own Oscorp.

[@cameronh1856]

Please cover Universe X and Paradise X. I loved the original Earth X story you covered and would love to see you cover it's sequels.

[@crithon]

"NOBODY SAYS NO TO ME!" As much as I love Dafoe's goblin.... he didn't have that wave hair.

[@KingChuck47]

I have to live long enough to see a Batman and Spider-Man crossover story

[@buffbeenstuffed]

yes brother!!!!!!! Finally and thank you so much!

[@Djgreatness57]

Why haven’t you done a comic books explained on the hobgoblin?

[@adamquenano8563]

It’s hard to believe that this Green Guy with weird hair, and bootyshorts changed comicbooks forever.

[@cronag4172]

Beyond omega level: Logos (Marvel) Or What if black lantern doomsday

[@cronag4172]

@@100percentNotaBot Well this is just “what if” he already did what if Thanos got all lantern rings, so bending the rules a bit wouldn’t be an issue.

[@GraemeGunn]

It's been a LONG time since I've been this excited to see a movie.

[@future_phonk]

I always thought Spider-Man was younger than Green Goblin.

[@future_phonk]

@ in the video it shows Norman Osbourne's dressed as Spider-Man as a young child. Idk if that was a storytelling creative decision to depict his childhood. Nevermind, it was Peter Parker seeing Norman's childhood through his eyes.

[@simonjoyfool7714]

Hey Rob, can you explain: 1)Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics) 2) The Key(DC) 3)The Mother of Existence 4)Lobster Johnson 5)Reptil 6)Crimson Dynamo (Valetin Shatalov) 7)Blue Beetle(Jaime Reyes) 8)Cyborg Superman Beyond Omega Level: Odin’s Doom(Ultimate Alliance Final Boss Dr Doom) Ultra Instinct Shaggy

[@coreyjasper8329]

Real question is the origins of Norman's waves. His head has been looking like a tsunami forever and I've never seen him wear a durag 🤔😂

[@coreyjasper8329]

@ that's a good question I'm not sure, but I do remember always liking his hairstyle even back in the animated series

[@RaVisions]

Bro he does wear a cap it’s part of the green goblin costume

[@coreyjasper8329]

@@RaVisions you're right that explains it lol

[@austinrosado1938]

I love the dark reign era

[@jimmywilliamson8229]

I think it's worth noting that Steve Ditko actually said himself in a self published essay that he didn't mind the reveal that Norman was Green Goblin and that he even added him to background of scenes before hand to give the reveal weight.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Wow

[@RubeusArchos]

Great video..I think we need video Spiderman first bad guy.

[@alexanderfarmer7315]

I read/watched somewhere (Wisercrack? ComicTropes? I can't remember) that the real reason Ditko didn't like Norman being the Goblin was his Randian/Objectivist views on self-made men (like Norman) being the villain or viewed as negative.

[@zrethor]

I wouldn't be surprised, while ditko was very professional most of the time sometimes his randian ideology would slip through. I remember reading about how there was a panel about some protestors that went from being described as mild annoyance to being drawn as peter looking disgusted cause of how he interpreted it.

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Ditko was an objectivist, but his disagreement with Stan about The Green Goblin was due to Ditko just wanting the Goblin to be a nobody who was of no importance to Peter. Ditko thought that would be more realistic, Stan wanted the Goblin reveal to carry some emotional weight.

[@LibertyBridgeProductions]

Found it interesting that in Spider-Man blue they decided to go the amnesia route.

[@goatlll]

Please please double triple please cover Dark Avengers. It got lost in the shuffle between Civil War and Time runs out but it's a really good story in its own right.

[@MrGeo-EmitFodrol]

Green Goblin and maybe even more so Norman Osborne has always been one of my favorite Spiderman and Marvel villains... my top 5 Spiderman villains are 1 Green Goblin 2 Kingpin ( especially in TAS) 3 Hobgoblin 4 Venom/ Carnage 5 Doc Oc. Shout out to so many of them Shocker ( who was a childhood personal favorite), Chameleon, Kraven, Rhino, Mysterio, Scorpion, Vulture, Electro, Lizard, Sandman, Tombstone, Hammerhead, Aliester Smythe, Beetle, Hydro Man, Black Cat ( who is more of a hero or antihero like catwoman), Herbert Landon, Powler. Jack O lantern, Silvermaine and so many more... Also I love Spectacular Spiderman and get the love for it but Spiderman TAS is still my favorite. Also Ultimate Spiderman definitely is tiers below the other 2 shows but does have its moments. The team ups in thst show alone are worth it existing. The new Spiderman show after that is absolute trash tho... I tried so many times to watch it ( I even watch Spiderman and his Amazing Friends and the 80s cartoon) but just can't get thru it. Also that futuristic Spiderman show that replaced TAS is still my least favorite and hate it for replacing the far superior TAS.

[@stevesalazar9658]

My favorite Spiderman villain of all time. I hope if they bring him back as Green Goblin in this new movie that they do him his justice finally & make him look right!! I have a feeling it's gonna be Norman Osborne influencing Need into the Hobgoblin role. The Tobey series had him in an all green flight suit. Then Harry was in that ridiculous paintball outfit rocking a back to the future hoverboard. THEN....ugh, I don't even know what the he'll Harry was suppose to be in the Garfield 2nd series of movies! He looked like Jim Carey's Fire Marshall Bill after an explosion. I wanna seen the green & purple outfit with his famous pumpkin bomb sash pouch hanging by his side. Oh, & one more thing. I liked the clone saga. It wasn't the best of all time stories, but Ben Reilly's Scarlet Spider outfit was awesome. Peace out!

[@marcelcjr9313]

Norman Osborn is basically Joker and Lex Luther rolled in one.

[@CAPappy]

Marvel: Oh no Spider-Man can’t have kids people may want them to replace him Also Marvel: 'Introduces 50 other spider-people in the main universe and has a whole multiverse event centered around Spider-Man'

[@dj2k460]

Green goblin is my favorite spiderman villain of all time he is the embodiment of spidermans rivals in my opinion

[@Gildorify]

Good video!

[@horicrow2657]

I love how the video is titled "Spiderman No Way Home" Just for algorithm clicks.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Yup

[@rogannmcfall3138]

Haha Ben Yoric 16:25 he looks a lot like Bill Gates. That's funny

[@bigrobwazhere]

Goblin trying to kill Spider-Man on a movie set totally caught me off guard.

[@elijahbaker781]

“You’re struggling to have everything you want while the world tries to make you chose. Gods don’t have to chose, we take”.

[@haitileblanc3075]

Dark reign was fabulous

[@doctorleak5312]

I would love to see a Spiderman story where he's just swinging around and someone just ends all his enemies in unsatisfying ways and every time they come back it happens again and again.

[@kingshadow8782]

Awesome

[@tastemyhammer2757]

I got 1

[@tastemyhammer2757]

S.K.S.

[@enjoyearthjc]

Happen Stan-ce-Lee...😉, did you do that on purpose? 😂😂😂

[@MarchallWhite12345]

Beyond Omega Level: Magus Beyond Omega Level: Perpetua Beyond Omega Level: Impossible Man Beyond Omega Level: The Fallen One Beyond Omega Level: Trigon Beyond Omega Level: Tala Beyond Omega Level: Highfather Beyond Omega Level: Mandrakk, the Dark Monitor Beyond Omega Level: Circe Beyond Omega Level: Serpent (Cul Borson) Beyond Omega Level: D'Spayre Beyond Omega Level: Griever at the End of All Things

[@thegingermessiah5318]

Beyond omega level: Constantine

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Great list. Is D’Spayre still around?

[@digunder14]

far as i know, last we saw norman osborn, he was still convinced he was kleatus

[@khalillunsford8284]

Hey rob idk if u still do what if videos anymore but could u do a what if video on punisher getting a lantern ring

[@A70N1M0US]

Ok I know this might be a bit of an ask, but do you think you could do a comparison of Green Goblin and Hobgoblin? Would be interesting the see what exactly differentiates the two.

[@Frogman1212]

The main hobgoblin is Roderick Kingsley. He was a mastermind type who wasn't even revealed as Hobgoblin until years went by, framing Ned Leeds (employee of the Bugle) as Hobgoblin (after he was thought dead by the way) and hiring hitman Jason Macendale, as Jack O Lantern to do his dirty work, always being secret. Norman was dead and replaced with Harry when Hobgoblin started. When Norman came back to life he was revealed as the Orchestrator of the Clone Saga, which was literally 3 years of spider-man comics (real-life time.) So Osborn was retroactively made a mastermind type at that point, making Roderick Kingsley redundant. Also, Kingsley originally did not possess the goblin formula, so he wasn't as much of a physical threat, but eventually he perfected it, and gained the power of Osborn without the insanity. Harry Osborn died from using the Goblin formula without working on it like Kingsley.

[@worstspytf2824]

I binged the entirety of Spectacular Spider (The show not the comic) in one day and Norman might have been my favorite character, he's done so well and animated so well that I genuinely prefer him to Mark Hamill's joker (In BTAS)

[@alexchism5192]

This, I personally still have to give it to Mark Hamil, but this comparison needs to be pointed out more. I got serious joker vibes from that version of the character in great ways.

[@jaredbuchanan286]

Always thought Norman's hair was wild lol

[@jendersonmohammed443]

One of my favourites EVER!

[@samuelkohi4415]

Even without The Green Goblin serum Norman is still evil af. In Raimi films Norman was a good man and The Goblin was insane lunatic but in the comics he was always evil.

[@mhauser9457]

The green goober!

[@DragonTheButcher]

Rob please do Superman: Som of Kal-El. I feel Jon is actually a better Superman then his father and in the second issue he tells his dad how he views/feels about what he does for humanity in the sense that they could be more of Superman did more. The whole shift with Jon was an unexpected by good change

[@pitua2268]

That wave tho

[@andregyamera2718]

Todd Mcfarlane did not write the clone saga. He was actually long gone before that.

[@vergilrules1616]

Beyond omega level: the divine creator

[@spideraty1529]

I’m so excited to see Tom Holland Spider-Man fight William dafoe green goblin in Spider-Man no way home

[@Bit2brain]

18:52 lets us know where No Way Home pulled that idea from. Interesting.

[@drjubi276]

closes explanation we got for who killed Gwen was the What If story where it confirms Spidey killed her with the webbing.

[@121von]

I just wish Rob reminded people that Norman Osborn has the best waves in all of comics.... ALL OF COMICS

[@max.m3707]

Mary Jane: “AAHHHH, I’M GONNA FALL, SOMEBODY HELP ME. Spiderman: “HANG ON MARY JANE...” Mary Jane: Wait, who are you? Spiderman: “You know who I am.” Mary Jane: “I do” Spiderman: “Your friendly neighbourhood Spiderman”

[@AceDriver2012]

One of the saddest things we’ll be never seeing hobgoblin on the bigscreen like ever….

[@MrShika07]

He might chill

[@Danzroo]

SM3? Didn't you see it?

[@BlackMesaEmployee]

The gwen/Norman relationship just got retconned!

[@TheeKingRayzor]

No one does origin stories like Comics Explained and Variant Comics.

[@santiagocam383]

Remember without Dark Reign, we wouldn't have gotten Jonathan Hickman

[@fatmangaming4232]

Stan has come out to say that technically Spider man killed Gwen Stacy but that if he did not web her she would have died anyways......basically by the time he could save her she had already fallen to far to not die.

[@Korsvejgaard]

Ever wonder if good ol’ Stan was working through some things?