Spinning a Simple Reed Switch Robert Adams type Pulse Motor

[@GuardianEngraving]

Ah this takes me back to the early 2000s, very nice good sir.

[@paulmaher812]

As Aragorn said to the Rivendale and Lothlorien Elves, You are Most Welcome!

[@BrainfooTV]

Firstly fantastic video and super simple to explain the concept. I too have been experimenting with the idea of driving permanent Neodymium magnets around using brief timed pulses from an electro magnet. I guess what we are building here (at least for me) is an electric magnetic engine using the pulses as a sort of 'timing belt' if you want to think of it as a traditional combustion engine terms. The pulse being TDC or top dead centre. My approach though has been to use the AG932-07E: ADT002 Rotation Sensor Evaluation Kit (NVE Corporation) and hack into one of the LED's to power a Mosfet (IRL640A) to power the coil. Both of these use a ridiculously low power draw so we can pulse the coil with minimum waste. I have been fascinated with magnets since I was a child, it seemed to me in very simple terms that a magnet WAS a source of free power... I mean the damn things will stick to a fridge door and defy gravity for FREE almost indefinitely. Even a magnet paper will show you the power flowing through them, yet it gets skipped over as if it were nothing. I think now we are just learning about Quantum physics, what we thought we knew (including text books and convention knowledge) has to be looked at again. Maybe it's us smaller enthusiasts that will have to do it because some people are just so 'well educated' that they cannot be questioned and they are not willing to be wrong. I believe that is why you are seeing 'crazy' and illogical power consumption from the batteries and you have only scratched the tip of the iceberg. Of course you must be thinking the same as me, the spinning disc of magnets can be used to generate power and feed back into the circuit until it breaks the barrier of more power out than in. At least I am. I did some child like maths with fresh eyes in an attempt to get back to basics, this may interest you. A junk yard electro magnet that lifts 1,000 pounds uses approximately 50A at 240V, that's 12,000 watts. However a Neodymium magnet 6" x 2" has a lifting force of approximately 2,645 pounds but for FREE. It would take a lot of watts if you were paying for that power. To even class back a smaller percentage changes everything we thought we knew. As it turns out with a lot of research we are not the only ones looking at this idea such as 'Holcomb Energy Systems' with this fantastic video explains what I had already started to suspect :kzbin.info/www/bejne/goe5qYiZqr1pa9k - 19 minutes very well spent!

[@paulmaher812]

Hi Brainfoo, Many thanks for the compliment. Can't say I'd thought of it that way before but the IC engine analogy does fit great. There is the brief and repeated gas air explosion to drive the piston/crankshaft, just like a magnetic pulse motor has the brief magnetic pulse to drive the rotor. One area where the analogy breaks down a little is that, yes you can run a pulse motor top dead center (you would think that is where you should run it) but, and I did not do a good job showing this in the video but when you line up all North facing magnets on the edge of a rotor, for some reason a weak South Pole shows up between the each of the magnets. You can easily see it with a polarity indicator. So as, Robert Adams and John Bedini pointed out the best place to pulse the magnet is actually a bit (usually around 22 degrees off TDC in a four pole rotor) off TDC. That way you get a pit of Push/Pull action going on. Godspeed on your build and when I get a chance will try and take a look at the Holcomb Energy systems video.

[@BrainfooTV]

@@paulmaher812 Thanks. I will look forward to experimenting with my system once I've taken it further. The one thing 5hat pute off a reed switch was that I didn't like the idea interference or the mechanical aspect of it. But great project 👍🏻

[@tonyrebeiro]

You must extract the inductive spike using a high speed diode, preferably and then the performance will improve and you'd be able to charge a battery from that spike. And you must use the reed switch only, to drive a MOSFET, which handles the current to the coil. Cau you tell me where I can download a copy of that manual from Robert Adams.

[@paulmaher812]

Hi Tony, thanks for the comment, yes, or as in the last video send the signal to an adc pin on an arduino and use that to drive a MOSFET, SSR BJT etc. Just wanted to show a very simple, fun way to spin a rotor. The document url is in the above video description.

[@tonyrebeiro]

@@paulmaher812 Many thanks for the document download info. If you use a BJT, then you can directly drive it from the reed switch. No need for Arduino, unless you want to vary the duty cycle.

[@TheTemporalAnomaly]

Unless there is a reason you are avoiding using a transistor, you could make the reed relays job a whole lot easier by only using the reed to switch the base current through a transistor and let the transistor do all the work. You would also need to put a diode across the coil to absorb the back emf that can damage transistors (and increase wear on reeds.) That way the reed will be only switching milliamps while the transistor, (with correct selection of part) can handle many amps without degradation.

[@paulmaher812]

Hi TemporalAnomaly, First, thanks for the comment and welcome aboard. Not to come across as a smart alec but I have just done that in a video some time back. In the video just before this one I used the signal from a reed/voltage divider to an arduino ADC pin to both a) control the pulse width and b) do bipolar commutation from a single reed switch. The video before that was a half hour video on how to put that circuit together. To answer your question though, rather than always doing complicated projects and getting down in the weeds of details every time just wanted to show people a very simple way to spin a pulse motor that they could have fun with on a coffee table. Really I started this channel just because I would do these goofy experiments and have no idea what I had thrown together a couple months later, so decided video log, then figured well I have a video I'll throw it on youtube to archive it. By that I mean I don't remember a lot of what I did previously so again thanks for the comment and in general, except for the sake of simplicity I don't generally set things up this way. Very last thing though, I would say a physical make and break almost certainly gives you the cleanest make and break so I wouldn't be surprised if at some point I 3d print a timing wheel and glue some copper strips on it for Medieval style commutation.

[@TheTemporalAnomaly]

@@paulmaher812 All understood, keeping things very simple can be the best way for those following along to get their projects working with a minimum of fuss. I must admit, I have not yet seen your other videos so I understand my comment may be redundant. Good luck with your experiments! Chris, UK.

[@Sean-im8bf]

as a viewer, i do appreciate the comments like these ❤ i learned a little bit extra while watching the video, and now know about another video to dig in farther.

[@paulmaher812]

@@Sean-im8bf Me as well. 👍🏻

[@brotherLar]

I have stopped experiments for a while, until I shield my inductor .Through the air core I am using garden wire wrapped around like a toroid so I can confine the field better, then the whole thing in an EMF cage i'm working on. Will also be posting similar experiments on my channel, with a 555 and this caged inductor 😊. Thank you and looking forward to seeing more videos

[@paulmaher812]

Hi brotherLar, Godspeed on your experiments, looking forward to seeing what you come up with, keep us posted. 👍

[@brotherLar]

@@paulmaher812 thank you very much, sir

[@arduinomerkaba6135]

I strapped a bunch of ceramic ring magnets opposing poles together with zip ties and what you described at 3:24 happens and you end up with 4 poles on one face

[@paulmaher812]

Thanks Arduinomerkaba, yea as I learned the hard way, if you don't provide a flux path that magnetic field shoots out with opposite polarity between two similar magnets.

[@L3X369]

Thank you for the video and the explanations!

[@paulmaher812]

😄 👍

[@sparkfishes]

PLEASE! REQUEST FROM ENGLAND how do you stop the reed switch from welding closed ? I have wrecked many reed switches a 6 v to 12v Please help

[@paulmaher812]

Hi Sparkfishes, I'll do my best but notice in other videos I transitioned to a Hall effect -> triggering a Solid State Relay and it was in good part because I couldn't get the reed switches to behave as consistently as I would have liked. That said, and certainly I have fried a few reeds as well, there are a few things to keep in mind. First and foremost what is the amp rating of your reed switch? If you have a 1/4 amp reed and you are putting an amp through it whether at 6V or 12V it is gonna go poof. Second, because of the reactance of the coil, you want to give it a healthy spin to start with. That is to say you might draw 0.1 amps once the thing is really spinning but, say at the worst case scenario, with the rotor stopped and the circuit open indefinitely, you might be drawing 2 amps. So again because of the reactance of the coil the amp draw will go down as the rotor speeds up. Lastly as you go to reed switches that can handle more amps they become slower in terms of how fast they can switch on and off (this speed should be in the datasheet) so if you have a BIG reed switch you can run into a situation where your rotor is spinning faster than the reed switch can switch. Reed switches are fabulous at gathering the inductive spike because they are literally making a physical on/off connection, but one needs to keep in mind their limitations. I have noticed even when everything is set up fine the are still a bit "finicky", but yea I love reed switches I just wish they were more consistent. Lastly, if you want to throw a lot of power to the the machine or just get things more consistent the first obvious choice is to use the reed to trigger a BJT. I don't know I may have had a video showing that but if it really interests you I can talk you through it. Of course then you have lost the physical switch for gathering the radiant as you are going through the PN junction but it still works on that front pretty good and now you can throw as much power at the rotor as your BJT or MosFet can handle. Hope this helps, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from the U.S.

[@BrentLeVasseur]

Hey paul, can you talk about the materials used in this device? Is your magnet ring a 3D printed PLA or is it traditional ferrite? What are the protruding screws for? What bearing are you using? Etc.. Thanks! Keep up the good work!

[@paulmaher812]

Hi Brent, Sure, the rotor is 3D printed PLA, it is a bit lighter than I would like, but sure is nicer than trying to make one out of wood by hand or gluing a bunch of compact discs together. The magnets are neodynium and maybe a bit of overkill as they are quite strong. They are reversible magnets with a countersunk hole in the center (from K&J Magnetics) so I 3d print a small guide hole in the rotor and just use a brass screw to screw them into the PLA. If I start taking the magnets out flipping them over and screwing them back in, they start to not be anchored into the PLA as securely, but if I am not spinning at ridiculous speeds it holds up just fine. The bearing is a skateboard bearing. I actually found a noticeable improvement in how well the thing spins when I went from standard bearings to ceramic bearings, I think they are called Yellowjacket "Venom" bearings. Silly name but those things spin great and I am very happy with the brand. Appreciate the compliment, once I get the 3D printer working well again, will try and do some more in this area.

[@dronemotionlab]

great video man! like the easy motor concept, might print one with 3d

[@paulmaher812]

Thx! They are fun. 👍🏻

[@dronemotionlab]

@@paulmaher812they are, indeed. its great to listen to it again, even more info came through. I made some high voltage, kind of a corona motor thingy, they are fun too if you havent checked them out already hahha

[@doubleooh7337]

Even though it's a monopole configuration on the magnets i bet the coil isn't wound to the same

[@doubleooh7337]

on a coil every LAYER should be wound the same way, meaning starting on the left and ending on the right, i see ppl do one layer from left to right then the next layer is right to left, basically when power goes through that coil on both ends of the magnet there will be a N and s pole and a S snd n on the other end, if every layer is from left to right then there would be to N and N on one end and a S AND S at the other, 2 layers would have double the field strength, after i do one layer i try to get back to the other side with 1 loop or 2loops max to achieve all one way, just tapping a battery causes a really fast spin so probably leads to even lower power needed, i bet even the Bemf would look more uniform aswell, resonating coils are also meant to cause amplification.

[@paulmaher812]

@@doubleooh7337 I don't know, when you use that one or two winds to get back to the start you are cutting across a lot of flux lines. I really don't see the difference with going down to the bottom then back up again to the top, but maybe you are onto something.

[@doubleooh7337]

@@paulmaher812 you cutting across those flux lines with many coils 1 layer 1way snd 1layer another way cancels each other out except the outer wire is alittle bit wider and longer if 2 layers were the same way the poles would be TWICE as stong

[@doubleooh7337]

1st layer wound downwards would have lets say N>S , the second layer wound up has a S>N ect

[@paulmaher812]

@@doubleooh7337 Okay!

[@anthonyjousse3020]

Paul AT 4 minute ....you dont understand ? With tiny wire ,you burn transistor ,why??? Because its Real énergie. Connect the négative AT the hearth and put thé charge in. A middle ..❤

[@evo-labs]

Yet after ~30 years, and numerous replications, the Adams motor is still just a toy for experimenters. Why is that? Probably because it doesn't provide any significant advantages over existing motors/generators. I experimented with this device back in the day, and even wrote to Robert, who kindly replied. It's fun to play with pulse motors, but people need to realize many claims about them are exaggerated.

[@paulmaher812]

Hi Evo, thank you for commenting. It certainly is a lot of fun to experiment with these sorts of motors. In Robert Adams published works he discussed the significant advantages of his pulse motor approach over conventional approaches, see the appended write-up to this video. You state that you had corresponded with Robert Adams and he noted "It's fun to play with pulse motors, but people need to realize many claims about them are exaggerated." I am not being confrontational in noting this is quite at odds with his published works. As this is fascinating would ask you to share more concerning your work with pulse motors and correspondence with Robert Adams. Many thanks.

[@evo-labs]

@@paulmaher812 Ahh, the problem with the written word 😆. The sentence "It's fun to play with pulse motors..." is mine not from Robert! BTW, thanks for posting the PDF of his schematics etc. I think I had a copy of at least some of it years ago, but lost it.

[@paulmaher812]

@evo-labs Dude, If you corresponded with Robert Adams I am actually impressed. What you are relaying is quite at odds with what is in his written work, as I have appended. So I am just asking again would you care to share more concerning your work with pulse motors and correspondence with Robert Adams?

[@evo-labs]

@@paulmaher812 Unfortunately nothing of significance. He replied to my inquiry about using his invention to power farm equipment that basically it was possible and that he was still working on improving his invention. This would have been around 1993. I lost his letter years ago (wish I had kept it). Me? I spent some time in the late 90's early 2000's trying to replicate various 'free energy' claims including the Adams Pulse motor and Bedini devices, Don Smith generator etc etc before realizing most of the claims were bogus (plus I ran out of money lol!).

[@paulmaher812]

@@evo-labs Many thanks. Please feel free to continue to share if anything grabs your attention.

[@YaseenExperience]

🔔❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍

[@paulmaher812]

👍😃

[@VEC7ORlt]

Jeez, why do people insist on building these trashy motors? Just why. We have established math, physics, everything, for every conceivable type - from dc to stepper to reluctance, PM. Yet someone still looking for some ephemeral gains on the fringes of obscurity.

[@paulmaher812]

Okay. But remember if you aren't having fun you aren't doing it right.