Everything you can do with relics in AoE4

[@oliver_ai]

Side note: you can mass convert neutral units from players already defeated. I won +30 villagers and enemy army that way on last game I played

[@JDSileo]

Note to self: if conceding and not the last one standing kill all my units and buildings

[@redif8889]

@@JDSileo or send them to you teamates.

[@gsxii1292]

Done that and they where French cavalry and i was HRE it gave us a huge edge

[@ZawaRandom]

...wow! this is BIG!

[@elizavetapanina3540]

Hello! Someone could help me? I don’t know is it a bug or whatever but I can’t put a relic into monastery - a monk just put close to building and that’s it. It stays close to the wall building so not producing something. I tried to do it playing England and Rus - the same thing…

[@noradrenalin8062]

As a little sidenote: You can also convert neutral units. I was playing a 3v3 recently and one of my allies got destroyed but I could still convert his units to my side giving me 20 addional vills instantly.

[@samdumaquis2033]

Thanks for the info

[@holoqofholoqqia9503]

Holy shit thanks for the info

[@Nathan-rt5vj]

Amazing idea to implement in that moment

[@michaeltulus4582]

You can also convert their town center bt garissoning villager inside I think?

[@Muenni]

You can also build their buildings and units with such captured forces!

[@Binarokaro]

I like the idea that if the monk dies the moment the conversion happens, all the units just become neutral. They just stop fighting. War is done, pacifism is their new ideal now.

[@davidmatlock3149]

Having witnessed the death of the holy man, the soldiers were overcome by solemnity and lost the will to fight, spending the rest of their days silently and immovably pondering the effects of their violent actions

[@Zalazaar]

Their prophet died and they form a new religion around it

[@HowDoYouTurnThisOn_]

The ausence of religion ends war, seems right to me

[@doe6974]

I knew that HRE buildings got bonuses from relics. I didnt know they ALSO could get the gold income AND the building bonus at the same time. This will massively change how i store relics

[@davidmatlock3149]

Same, the wording seemed to imply to me that it was a trade off but now that I know I get the gold too I’ll definitely be using that castle benefit

[@berkut3919]

Still keep those in regnitz. When you are defending, mind that a relic in elzbach costs you 200 gold per minute

[@davidmatlock3149]

@@berkut3919 oh yeah I mean after the regnitz, should I get 4 relics. Definitely think that’s the best benefit

[@sambauman69]

UPDATED ON HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE: A recent patch changed the Regnitz Cathedral. The gold boost is now only double instead of triple, but it is also a global boost that will always apply no matter where the relic is stored. The cathedral itself now also acts as a monastery to produce prelates and research religious techs.

[@sarahd2623]

I often hear from people that age 4 lacks depth, but I think it's brimming with it. Maybe depth = micro management potential for many people though.

[@holoqofholoqqia9503]

If you ask me people are complaining way too much for a game that is 2 months old, not even 2 months. But I guess that should be expected. Me personally I like the game as is. This game is like a mix of Age 2 and Age 3, and I like it. There's a macro and micro aspect to it. And it's developed by Relic. Any RTS game developed by Relic is bound to be good. And no DoW3 doesn't count.

[@TheArbiterSux]

I think it's a large part because there's so few civs to choose from, so matchups follow expected metas with few viable deviations. Combat being simplified also just goes to reduce viable options too.

[@dj_koen1265]

I feel like it isn’t the way i want it and i am extremely picky Its a cool game despite that tho But my biggest want is higher pop cap

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

@@holoqofholoqqia9503 Out of curiosity, why does DoW3 not count?

[@holoqofholoqqia9503]

@@ArawnOfAnnwn lmfao I don't know I haven't played DoW3. But the reviews are quite something else. I'll leave you to your curiosity and take a look around

[@Hunwutzzzz]

Would be cool if the HRE has a landmark that trains Teutonic knights, when you put relics in it.

[@HandsomeGamerGuy]

yes. Each Relic gives a single Teutonic Knight.

[@FullCavGuy]

Crusade

[@TBPetitP]

They totally should change their totay useless unique unit with the teutonic knight

[@MagisterProcellas]

Maybe if it didn't need relics. I think replacing the Burgrave Palace with a landmark that let you train mounted and/or dismounted Teutonic Knights would be pretty cool, and perhaps a viable alternative to Regnitz Cathedral. They could use Marienburg Castle as the landmark.

[@peter-bu5tz]

Im not sure teutonic order has been abolished during the hre empire

[@hybralisk]

Fair warning for anyone unaware. As of the current patch when posting this comment on 12/15/2021, the Relics placed inside Holy Roman Empire Docks unfortunately seem to give the +5% stacking attack speed buff to ALL ships on the map. Including at least enemy ships, though I haven't tested allied ships yet. But yeah, till they patch it, just know that it will be buffing everything, even ships you might not want it to. xD

[@zephloc3632]

I would love to see you do a mathematical breakdown of exactly how Scholars work and how they actually affect tech research times. The tooltips say that they "increase building research time by 12.5%", but there seems to be some kind of diminishing return on each Scholar and, for the life of me, I cannot figure out how that "12.5%" actually plays into it or what the actual equation is for how each Scholar affects the time.

[@the_philos5102]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think the bonus is multiplicative. So, while the first gives the full 12.5%, because the research is at 100%, the next can't give the same amount. The research time is at 87.5%, so the next scholar only gives his 12.5% on these 87.5%, that's 10.9375%. So your research time is at 76.5625 and the next scholar gives his 12.5% on this and so on and on, every following scholar gives less and less discount on research time. Would still be interesting to see a SotL Video about it. There must be some ideal number of scholars.

[@cybersteel8]

@@the_philos5102 It should be 8, I don't really know how it works mathematically, but I believe that if you have 8 scholars the research times are back to normal.

[@jigzo78]

I dont think it's worth doing until devs actually sort them out so that they work properly.

[@Muenni]

100.0% of Delhi research time with 0 scholars (increased by a factor depending on Age and bugs) 88.6% with 1 scholar 78.6% etc. ... 69.9% 62.1% 55.3% 49.4% 44.2% 39.6% 35.6% with 9 scholars 32.1% 29.0% 26.2% 23.9% 21.8% 19.9% 18.3% 16.9% 15.6% with 18 scholars 14.5% 13.6% 12.7% 12.0% 11.3% 10.7% 10.2% with 25 scholars

[@zephloc3632]

@@Muenni Yeah. I got all of that. All the way up to 50 Scholars to reduce the time down to the regular time for Imperial Techs. Anyone can throw some Scholars into a Mosque and record the time, but what I am interested in is the actual mathematical equation that is going on behind the scenes to get those numbers.

[@philosophiabme]

Yes! I need this video lmao, never touched a relic in my life

[@WallahianKnighttHorseRider]

i've never touched an relic in my life too,i tought they were usseles

[@philosophiabme]

@@pougetguillaume4632 guilty as charged

[@naummw6328]

You def should they are very powerful to getting ahead in the game

[@Zylos3]

another little sidenote about Mongols is they can pack up the monastery with relics inside it. If you are worried about your monk dying to a couple enemy units guarding the relic you can send the monastery with the monk and unpack it next to the relic allowing you to immediately place it inside, so even if you lose your monk chances are a small force won't kill your monastery before it makes it back to your base.

[@MytzerL]

lmao

[@AtticusKarpenter]

In Mongolia entire fukin monastery rushes to relic, not just some monk

[@christopherg2347]

They did want Relics to play a large role in AoE 2 but failed. Looks like they finally got around to that. Really a lot from that old "dropped ideas" video has been added to 2 or 4 by now. One reason against putting a relic into a HRE fort is the risk of loosing it if overrun. Which was propably the intention.

[@suddenllybah]

AoM also had a lot more relics with different bonuses.

[@DeJake]

Relics play a huge role in AoE2 on default settings. The player community however prefer not to play with standard win conditions. There was no fail on the Age2 creators part, it was the player's decision not to use them.

[@mikesully110]

@@DeJake yeah plus with the older unbalanced maps it could be seen as lame, team 1 could have better skill but because the relics spawned more on team 2's side, they hide all 5 relics in the corner, fortify it, and win that way. So relic and wonder victory is always turned off.

[@mikesully110]

@@suddenllybah yeah most of the effects were tiny though. Typically they were half of 1 regular upgrade, e.g. the farming bonus relic was 10% when a normal farm upgrade was 20%. Or the wood/gold gather boost was just 5%. Some of the bonuses sound huge for AOE2, like an extra 10% archer range, but due to AOM's gameplay they are barely noticable due to fast paced cavalry and myth units. Is it worth going out of your way to grab a relic that doesn't give any gold, all it does is make your archers have 82hp instead of 78hp? or makes your rams 50% stronger when buildings are so weak anyway? Or giving your ulfsarks 16.6 attack fully upgraded, rather than 16.2 etc. And I'd always get the most outright useless ones, like making temple technologies 20% cheaper, when I only had 3 of them to research. Or giving my scout 20% extra LOS when chariot archers have better LOS anyway... Walls costing 20% less but even if you wall in your entire base you'd save at most 150 gold... that relic should apply to the upgrade cost too. IMO the AOM relics should have gathered gold as well as providing those upgrades. Or they should have removed the useless upgrades, and made each relic the equivalent to an upgrade e.g. a relic is equal to the copper weapons (blast furnace for AOE2) upgrade for a specific line of unit (archer, infantry or cav), so you could have 1 tier above your opponent.

[@blakebeshires5859]

Keep it up my man your statistical insights in valuable in my business life even beyond the game. You're the man. Subscriber for life one of my favorite content creators.

[@SlimyGreenSlime]

As a guy who mostly only plays HRE, I approve of this video. Landsknechts for days. And people seem to not park units next to the relics, so you can park prelates next to relics relatively safely! If they chase ya, well then try to go for a wololo

[@Half_Finis]

Always feels so bad when they slowly walk away from my wololo, then back in to slap me

[@SlimyGreenSlime]

I managed to get like 7 horsemen+scout group converted with one hit left when I was running away once. That was fun.

[@laszlomolnar5744]

I love they make relics more usefull, I made a lot of personal "mods" for age of mythology in my primes to made relics powerful :D (not game-changing but interesting)

[@MrDwarfpitcher]

Yeah AoM was hit or miss "This relic makes your heroes have more hp" Oh nice "This relic gives your armory a 10% discount" I already researched most of my armory upgrades...

[@Harai_Ulfsark]

"This relic spawns a monkey on your temple"

[@Sids1192]

@@Harai_Ulfsark No way! They wouldn't have a relic as useless as that. It spawns *3* monkeys!

[@childrenofthesun471]

@@Sids1192 it was kind of useful

[@gm2256]

Great stuff as always, Spirit!

[@thomasfplm]

One thing I want to know is: What happens if you convert an Imperial Official.

[@TheArbiterSux]

Good question

[@dj_koen1265]

You can use it to supervise probably

[@mathewcurtis9401]

Love the way you present data, clear and easy to digest. Thanks!

[@natalinovakova9276]

Thank you. I didn't know about all the relic bonuses for HRE faction. I have some recent experience from playing AoE2 HD, but in my first playthrough as HRE I get beaten in AoE4. I missed Tutonic Knights and I didn't use relics much. I watched some tutorials and now when playing HRE, I focus more on relics, economy, defence and agressive building.

[@jaroslavhruska7123]

I would swear I saw you on onlyfans.

[@htf5555]

turtling is the way in this one

[@mariuspretorius7913]

@@htf5555 nope, hre eco is very strong you should be massing archers and m@a in feudal and send them on a ram rush. You either win the game then or go fast imp with swabia and outboom and crush them.

[@Muenni]

Isn't the moving prayer tent another advantage towards relic collection for Mongols?

[@noduh629]

Who care!? Aoe 4 sucks dick

[@vitorgas1]

@@noduh629 imagine having so little of a purpose in life you spend your days going to AoE 4 videos to tell AoE 4 sucks

[@warmesuppe]

@@noduh629 lame troll

[@BeckJoseR]

@@noduh629 credit where credit is due: Your profile picture fits

[@Johan91NL]

No? Why would it be? The prayer tent is Castle age building, and why would you then move around that building to each relic or whatever?

[@Denis-gh9bi]

I really like that the relics in AOE 4 can generate gold, just like in AOE 2. I always loved that feature.

[@donxnik]

thanks it was very informative. I didn't know many of this. definitely gonna play with HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE

[@drakmendoa]

At this point, I would want to see a AOE4 SOTL Intro. :D

[@20xd6]

Other YTers: 10:01 length videos for max ADDs Spirit: 9:58 for max VALUE

[@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961]

To be honest, I like the idea when monk mass converting to the surrounded enemies and those enemies who were not able to converted by the player due to exceeded population will turned themselves into neutral instead of killing themselves.

[@TheArbiterSux]

Agreed. It gives you an opportunity to re-convert them later once you have the chance.

[@smugshrug]

wow, relics are so much more important in AOE4.

[@Red-wb5jj]

Hello Spirit of the Law. We need a video when a new lumberjack is worth it in Age of Empires 4? Which distance to the trees is the right distance to build a new lumberjack? Thank you very much. I'm a big fan!

[@Astigos]

Having one relic monk in your army is super strong against an opponent using primarily melee units because they can't snipe the monk, meaning they can never real engage you.

[@1un4cy]

Then they can just get like 6 archers for counterplay

[@TheArbiterSux]

@@1un4cy A lot of times they don't diversify if you aren't fielding any obvious counters for them to make archers.

[@elizavetapanina3540]

Hello! Someone could help me? I don’t know is it a bug or whatever but I can’t put a relic into monastery - a monk just put close to building and that’s it. It stays close to the wall building so not producing something. I tried to do it playing England and Rus - the same thing…

[@davidpereira5969]

Wow i never saw that the HRE relic bonus was that big on defensive buildings, no wonder i've seen people call Elzbach Palace with a relic inside very hard to break through. Also its good to know that Tithe Barns afects relics on the Regnitz Cathedral and docks/defensive buildings

[@Igneousak]

Yeah the full list of bonuses a Elzbach Palace gets with a relic is as follows: +50% hp -33% damage taken +50% armor +35% weapon damage +30% LOS range +20% weapon range the only problem is it still dies super fast to bombards even in 1v1

[@warbrand2]

One thing to note, you can't convert siege with mass conversion. So if you have rams, just put your units in them and boom no units for the enemy.

[@MaxwellCovington]

Thanks for helping us learn!!! :)

[@Corvinus1]

8:55 Look at that, my sexy game. Btw i had so many games like that, after enemy units went neutral, i went back and do the wololo again to get his units :D

[@LarryCroft111]

Relic mechanics are so cool in new Age of Empires game!

[@DiamondKingVideos]

Wait, where's the intro? I love the intro!

[@edwardfontaine7108]

As Rus I always go for the warrior monks as it makes grabbing the relics a breeze and the extra gold is always useful.

[@AokiZeto]

6:23 no the scholar isnt cheap it is regular prices, the prelate is cheaper tho.

[@SpiritOfTheLaw]

What I had in mind is if you make Dome of the Faith scholars are 1/2 price for Delhi.

[@EvilGenius-k9o]

Yes, but they can be if you make dome of the faith as your landmark

[@redhammer92]

Its half cost out of the Dome(75g), im assuming thats what he means.

[@AokiZeto]

@@SpiritOfTheLaw ok gucci then my bad

[@onescenewonder8904]

Great vid~!

[@ejnaygfantzcg]

2:02 Ah yes, the mighty starving vulture with huge biceps.

[@ChocolateMilkCultLeader]

Barbarians and lesser factions from Endless Legend would be a cool additions

[@berkut3919]

Mass conversions main use to me is to protect siege units from a kamikaze horse charge

[@Silver_Knee]

Ah, wrong percentages, an AoE classic.

[@jaafit]

Last I checked, Tithe Barns does not work as Mongols but Improved Tithe Barns does.

[@Irythia]

Tbh, pagodas are super strong but i have used them ONCE in almost 500 hours and i play a LOOOOOOT of customs/4v4s, the only time going for ming dynasty is worth is when theres a wonder as your wincon, and very often those pagodas are left behind, you either forget about the existence of the pagodas, dont have any relics or youre maxed and cant train any more unit to change the location of your relics from the monastery to the pagodas, i wouldnt mind if they were changed to Yuan or made significately stronger, because right now its just a decoration building lmao.

[@mariuspretorius7913]

Pagoda also produce tax and for the grenaders alone ming is worth it.

[@timoboy19]

Then you're playing it wrong lmao.

[@subinct]

Future Video Idea: Healing in AOE4. Do multiple monks speeed up healing?

[@birdfacemd]

I just realized, is the font you use the crash bandicoot font?

[@justincburns]

So helpful, thanks!

[@javierititin]

I don't play aoe4, waiting on scenario editor before I buy, but I love SoTL's videos so-

[@tomzicare]

Age of Mythology has relics with a lot of different effects!

[@havefun37g36]

Etimos, balista, prostagma, esvoli,

[@wildtrickster4135]

9:30 yes, as someone who doesn't have AoE 4 that's exactly what i'm gonna be doing

[@thekeybuoy9547]

When are we going to get civ overviews? Much needed right now

[@yahyamusseb]

I love the idea of converting units to neutral its like they lost their purpose or cause

[@biogoo]

"Pregnancy cathedral", the pinacle of auto subtitles.

[@matthewdwight4328]

If you garrison a relic in a monastery , is there a way to ungarrison it?

[@wbRosario]

Found in comments below. Right click the building holding the relic with a monk who does not have a relic in hand.

[@YadonTheCat]

I sure hope the bugs and wrong descriptions get taken care of, the game feels like it's in Early Access right now

[@deadzeye9007]

This is my kind of ASMR.

[@Maggelito]

Best info ever. Do you have a life? Or did you develope this this game yourself?

[@Mormegilius]

Relics in Clash of clans 4! Thank you

[@zwojack7285]

You can do one thing. Put them into the Reglitz Cathedrale

[@johndane9754]

Relics can bring peace, convert workers, enlighten soldiers, generate wealth, get inspiration, generate motivation, assert dominance, do your taxes, bring bountiful harvests.

[@lucas9430]

Can you please explain sacred sites? I know if u capture them all you win but do they do anything else??

[@joshuacantin514]

You also get 100 gold per min for every scared site you have captured. I don't know if there is anything else on top of the win condition and the gold, though.

[@erickauffmann_official]

Sweet

[@arangelrb]

An important question, the relics placed in the cathedral Can the other resources produce once the relics are placed?

[@fads90]

Does tithe barn work on the hre docks?

[@SpiritOfTheLaw]

Yes

[@konradruhe6266]

@@SpiritOfTheLaw does tithe barns income get tripled inside a regnitz?

[@HenryElfin]

Pagoda generated tax even if it's empty, especially within the area of imperial academy

[@Kackpuh]

Since when is the building the Regnitz Cathedral? Wasn't it Aachen beforehand? And shouldn't it be called Bamberger Dom?

[@michaelandreipalon359]

OK, not gonna lie, they better make that neutral Relic glitch a feature.

[@LONEWOLF-yq9uk]

i can not put relics into monastery idk why i do the same press E into the monastery but monk alws leave it outside, why does it happen?

[@andrewstuart4609]

Actually the gold product by a relic is 1 and two-thirds of a gold per second

[@havefun37g36]

I tried to put relic in all ways you said inside the monastery but it doesn't work, it's frustrating and annoying

[@elizavetapanina3540]

Same thing for me. I can’t understand how to do it…

[@havefun37g36]

@@elizavetapanina3540 Ikr 🤣 i almost finished the all campaign, then i will try multiplayer, i am very noob, i played at intermediate

[@elizavetapanina3540]

So you still can’t find a way how to do it?

[@havefun37g36]

@@elizavetapanina3540 No, i didn't

[@elizavetapanina3540]

I’ve found an answer. It stop working when you are loading the saved game.

[@philipkelly7369]

well I just learned from this video that I should really stop skipping the tithe barns tech as HRE

[@PurpleWarlock]

HRE's monasteries get exclusive technologies. Sadly, monks get less attention in AoE4.

[@DanielMescoloto]

I wouldn't say "sadly" 😅. I always hated relics/monk conversions

[@TheArbiterSux]

I might need to try out sneaking a mass enemy vil convert sometime. Can you garrison a relic-holding monk within a siege tower?

[@mensakachun]

Very good

[@andreidragomir4961]

and zones? what change's if you have the zones and the relicts?

[@Kwambomb23]

I am trying this in my next team match

[@sonman3694]

I was so confused on how to convert people haha

[@Ihem777]

Relic entertainment is Relic. 💗

[@rahal0077]

Yooo Graphic is so gooood , name your gpu ?

[@ambulancekun3142]

What happened to the intro are you going to make a aoe4 version or you simply abdondend it?

[@vlafed4690]

Have they increased building size ?

[@GeDruchy]

Does a relic placed in the Regnitz Cathedral after Tithe Barns is researched give +300% to the stone, wood and food generated as well?

[@mallenwho]

Interested on the payback rate of Tithe barns for different situations. Should I get it after a single relic? after two? after five?? How does the number of relics help offset the investment?

[@TheArbiterSux]

Tithe Barn Costs 500 gold, and you get 100 gold/min with or without it researched, you just need to decide if 30 of the other resources per min per relic is worthwhile to you.

[@Zapnl]

With resources weighted equally it pays back for itself in 6 minutes with a single relic, 3 with 2, and 2 minutes with 3 relics.. That about balances out with Food being infinite with farms, Wood being abundant but cheap and Stone being limited by the map, while Gold is inifite due to relics and trade. I'd say just always get it if you're in a safe booming position. If you're under pressure the gold is probably better spent on units.

[@tkzsfen]

I asked Memb, if we are going to watch on stream your video, which just dropped, and he said, "Not, until SoTL gives me 1000 dollars to promote him", of course joking :D He is always on the move for cash :D

[@SpiritOfTheLaw]

lol love that guy

[@mouzgeilpapx]

@spirit of the law make more aoe4 content plx

[@konradruhe6266]

Anyone know if the regnitz cathedral multiply your tithe barns income 3x?

[@Thunderbirdmovies]

Is it intended that any building with more than 2 relics inside only drop 2 when they’re destroyed?

[@fads90]

Sometimes they drop the relics on top of one another but ive always experienced that the relics are there. You just have to pick them up to see the other relics beneath them. This happens very often when the monastary is on the edge of the map

[@Thunderbirdmovies]

@@fads90 I’ve never seen more than two? I’ve destroyed monasteries with 5 or 6 relics, and I go to pick them up, and there’s only 2, and the buildings are rarely, if ever at the map edge

[@Johan91NL]

@@Thunderbirdmovies I have never seen that. What Prez mentioned happens sometimes tho, that they glitch into eachother. When you pick it up another one appears as if the 3rd and 4th are inside it. But sometimes they correctly spawn, never that they are gone.

[@anettera3460]

for mongols, the images for tithe barn said +20 but you assert +30 as does the wiki. is it different for them?

[@SpiritOfTheLaw]

It's just a tool tip error. Tithe barn gives +30 food/wood, +20 stone for all civs, including Mongols.

[@Johan91NL]

He already explained that in the video.

[@neubtuber]

I think relics is based on map like previously, i just 100% had 6 in a 1v1

[@reggiexp69]

That relic building sucks cause even if you destroy the building the relics stay in... That are 3 relics gone they might need to fix that up

[@Spruble]

When we gonna have a BOARing video on aoe4?

[@VittamarFasuthAkbin]

isn't the HRE getting 200 gold per minute from relics, rather than 100 gold (without regnitz)

[@v4enthusiast541]

No, closest thing to that is Delhi getting 200g/min per sacred site

[@Lightningdude]

Lmao in aoe2 pros mostly don't care about relics that's why they all say HRE sucks

[@TBPetitP]

I agree, at least on paper the 900 gold per minute = 20 vills on gold seems insane! You can put all your gold vills on other resources and swim in resources really really fast, not to mention the late game advantage when gold runs short... Sadly is probably still less powerful than the Frank's economic bonuses, which are broken, 0 investment and managing for 100% succes.

[@Xavier1415]

yesss

[@obesechicken13]

hre docks are bugged. Never put relics in docks unless opponent has 0 ships

[@danthiel8623]

Interesting 🤔

[@alfredojuan6453]

How do you eject a relic from a building in AOE4?

[@SpiritOfTheLaw]

Just right click the monastery with a monk who isn't already carrying a relic.

[@DCdabest]

If only you could over pop yourself with relics lol. That'd be pretty insane haha

[@darkroy610]

Sad that the intro is still missing

[@Mike-Risumfeldt-nielsen]

Only old legends know that the blue white cobra can kill everything Yes i tried using commands plus i could set end game temples everywhere 🎉😂im 33yrs old and played aoe 1 2😂😂😂