SPLITGATE 2 - An Honest Review

[@MintBlitz]

Quick clarification - 1:35 I say class with portals, I just mean my class/faction with the portals is the most overpowered, all classes have portals just different abilities. Game is fun overall, not huge on the abilities, gunplay is good, movement is like Titanfall 2 which I love. Will play the beta and see what the devs change based on feedback Splitgate 1 - Halo with Portals Splitgate 2 - Destiny with Portals

[@gizmoz]

Splitgate 1 only die because halo infinite came out at the same time

[@MintBlitz]

@@Jawsgamez5317she’s beautiful.

[@OlSlickDaddy]

They should just keep it simple and drop the classes and just let us customize our person how we want. other then that it looks fun

[@kaiironic2636]

Mint Blitz I have to disagree with you on it being a hero shooter. I believe it's more like a class-based shooter, like the old battlefields and like titanfall 2

[@shiny-piplup]

hope game dies on launch just because of the changes they made if they remove abilities and the loadouts ill support them again

[@abhijeetpoudel5919]

Portal + Halo was Splitgate's identity. That was why it had the popularity. I really wished that they would double down more on portals, more surfaces, tricks, momentum etc but they're turning it into a hero shooter.

[@adrianlugo1130]

Yeah its sad to see loadout

[@piersonlaplante6921]

They could add wall running like in Titanfall

[@bannedmann4469]

Looks more like classes to me, but ok..

[@danielbob2628]

It's spelled gyro but yeah

[@zynet_eseled]

And it's over. Damnit.

[@RosemaryTheFloran]

It's sad to hear that Splitgate 1 crashed down in popularity. I'm someone who swaps between dozens of games at random, but I do wish I remembered it existed more often. It was very fun.

[@berthein5476]

Didnt really crash in popularity. They killed it in favor of working on 2. When they made sg1 they were working on an old unreal 4 version and had little experience. By season1 they moved to 4.20 or sth newer and were basically updating old content whilst making new. And said " yeah no. We cant continue this workload. We making sg2 "

[@thomase.1529]

@@berthein5476dude it went from a game everyone played to only a few hundred players worldwide…

[@leafdragoon8551]

from what I heard Splitgate 1 died because the developers thought it would be better to start from scratch and develop a whole new game from the ground up. Apparently when they made Splitgate 1 they took so many shortcuts on the games code that it created a mountain of technical debt so was easier to just start from scratch so that would be able to actually create a steady flow of content without having to constantly play whack amole with all the bugs from the spaghetti code.

[@me0w99-u6v]

yea sg1 was rly goofy and wasnt made well at all, so instead of trying to save it they immediately started working on sg2 with over 100mil from investors

[@ginja3609]

It was also because it couldn’t scale up fast enough for those months it was big. The game always had a decent sized community of people who didn’t just play because people were talking about it

[@berthein5476]

Scaling doesn't really work if you are basically updating and upgrading the engine and maps and fx etc whilst making new content. Thats why they canned it. They went " yeah guys. We are basically developing a live game and trying to updste everything to thr live game quality at the same time. "

[@BestHaloClips117]

I feel like the best way Splitgate 2 can avoid dying out after a couple months like Splitgate 1 is just by consistently adding new content.

[@adrianlugo1130]

I hate this new trend of adding tons of content and updates I just wish games were like back then, you get what you see and thats it, sometimes it had updates but that was like after a couple of months like dlc and such

[@BalkanGames]

@@adrianlugo1130 You prefer games that DON'T get tons of content and updates after laucnh? Are you high?

[@xSilentZeroXx]

@@BalkanGames Explain why you think what he said was wrong.

[@meurumtrain4747]

@@xSilentZeroXxhe’s coming from an Era where expectations were different. In a multiplayer game fun gameplay is simply not enough. There needs to be stuff to do, unlock, etc. new guns, maps, or the game becomes stale. The old ways are gone.

[@King0nyx]

​@@adrianlugo1130those days are long gone (for multi-player games at least). If new content isn't being added to keep the game "new and shiny", then its relevancy is essentially going to fall off a cliff. People's attention spans have gotten incredibly low unfortunately, so the second someone gets bored they'll bounce to the next new thing.

[@willwunsche6940]

They made 100 million off mainly a couple months of popularity? That's crazy to put into perspective

[@therealthirst8099]

I hope this finds it's niche, but honestly there's only so far you can go when your game is solely built of the dissatisfaction of players from another game. Rather than organically growing interest. Splitgate 1 had "Halo Killer" vibes around it, and suffered the same fate as one.

[@BuffdaddyJamal]

Splitgate 1 died because it wasn't Halo enough. The portals literally hurt the game more than they helped. Same thing will happen with SG2, only this time the gimmick is abilities.

[@This-is-a-commentt]

Thankfully there’s still tons of people playing the first game, I still play it and matches are very easy to find

[@ginja3609]

@@BuffdaddyJamalThe portals was the only reason I played splitgate 1 it’s the core mechanic of the game and that’s why it’ll still get players that want to portal

[@calus_bath_water]

​@@BuffdaddyJamal said nobody litterally ever, portals are what everyone liked about the game

[@This-is-a-commentt]

@@calus_bath_water THANK YOU! I knew I wasn’t the only one who thought that!

[@dixon137]

yes.. this is why i wanted halo 5 on PC more so the way it was in its beta

[@steve_jedi2511]

I miss Arena Shoters as hell!!!

[@akimbo_K9]

You should play the finals !

[@steve_jedi2511]

@@akimbo_K9 nah, this is almos like CoD, i have played Xdefiand, there are more like "OK", But Team Fortress 2 it's a Masterpiece, i enjoy CLASSIC Arena Shooters, Quake, Unreal. And Team Fortress 2 is based on them. Halo also is more like classic Arena Shooter.

[@steve_jedi2511]

@@akimbo_K9 the finals is more a Military shooter, i want CLASSIC Arena Shooters, Quake, Unreal.

[@Cluxiu]

​@@steve_jedi2511 the finals is the best fps rn, give it a chance you'll love it.

[@steve_jedi2511]

@@Cluxiu this game might be good, but not legendary, Quake, Unreal, Team Fortress 2 and Halo are the true Perfect Multiplayer PvP FPS Games.

[@kstov]

Every class can portal

[@Mr.Mushroom.]

Yeah I don't know what he was talking about. It also isn't a hero shooter, it's a class based shooter.

[@cuz9892]

he's talking about the class that can use portals anywhere

[@Mr.Mushroom.]

@@cuz9892 you can only portal on the portal surfaces.

[@cuz9892]

@@Mr.Mushroom. in the reveal trailer aeros used a portal on the ground

[@Mr.Mushroom.]

@@cuz9892 oh! I didn't see that. I'm gonna have to take a look at that. That map was part of the alpha and had the portal surface on it.

[@Kameron-Nin64]

“I always found splitgate very fun and interesting glad it’s getting a revival”

[@morgboat744]

who you quoting bruh

[@taylorharris6637]

I played SG1 a ton, and I gotta say that I'm so excited for this game. It looks like the best parts of SG1 are in SG2. I think if they can widen the selection of casual content and more party oriented modes it'll be fine. It doesn't need to have 80k players consistently, even a healthy player base of 2k will be enough to keep me coming back

[@shizzywizzy6169]

2k players may not be enough for the devs to continue supporting the game since it's free to play. Across both PC and console I'd say there needs to be a bare minimum of at least 50k players with 10k concurrent (combined from all platforms) to support a game of this magnitude in the long run. There needs to be a large enough casual population to fund development.

[@taylorharris6637]

@@shizzywizzy6169 Across all platforms yes it needs to be higher player numbers than 2k. I'm on PC so I was thinking about steam charts. However there's plenty of games I know of that are getting support with only 2k concurrent players

[@ginja3609]

@@shizzywizzy6169They’re going to keep supporting the first game so I don’t see why they wouldn’t the second, they respect their fanbase a lot

[@Arbiter117x]

My only, and I mean ONLY complaint about SplitGate 1, was that I couldn’t slide. Now I can. IVE BEEN FREED FROM MY SPRINTING SHACKLES AHHHHHH

[@schwibz]

Facts. The movement looks legit in this game

[@morgboat744]

play Black Ops 3 then dude, they chose not to add sliding to the original for a reason. personally i’m kind of annoyed by it

I'm just happy that you covered Splitgate on your channel. Thanks. Also, I hope this game won't die on launch.

[@MintBlitz]

I’ve been meaning to cover it for awhile. I’ll definitely play it again when the beta / full release rolls around.

[@TheoriginalBMT]

The halo music over it has me messed up lol

[@coooooool12342]

Yes lol

[@xSPAZNSPARTANx]

LateNighyGaming put it perfectly, “yeah, it’s another one boys.”

[@paradoxlaboratories8005]

One nitpick that I have about Splitgate is how the portal surfaces look. In Portal (the game) the surfaces that you can put portals on have a noticeable color contrast to the surfaces that you can’t place portals on. Splitgate is so colorful though that the “portalable” surfaces seem to sometimes get washed out in all the colors. They don’t immediately catch your eye which somewhat reduces a player’s awareness of where they can portal to at a moment’s notice or where an enemy portal might pop up.

[@user-dy1vf7lu3i]

Kind of comes down to experience with maps

[@me0w99-u6v]

idk man, i havent played sg1 and on sg2 i can instantly tell from across the map if i can place a portal or not, maybe it was worse on sg1 since there were a lot more.surfaces to portal on

[@Andybananas]

id say it looks fine in slitgate 2, with the new materials and the fact that the dark blue/cyan color isnt really used much elsewhere.

[@ginja3609]

What?! It’s a glowing wall

[@user-dy1vf7lu3i]

@@ginja3609 Same thought. He said it's a nitpick I guess.

[@KingTezGaming]

Split gate 1 was awesome, didn’t play an overwhelming amount but it was still cool, and split gate 2 looks good I just hope it turns out just as good as split gate 1 was on launch and it stays alive for a long time, BUT THEY HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY PLEASE!!!🙏

[@MrMars-sb3yq]

That's what anthem did and look how it ended up.

[@This-is-a-commentt]

Still hyped for this. Splitgate 1 was peak, this looks really good so far, I can’t wait for it to release so I can play it

[@nicholasdelaney1407]

I've heard rumours that Splitgate 2 is gonna be like OverWatch. And I agree it's a bad idea. Halo with Portals is BETTER Thankyou! 👍

[@admanwhitmer]

It’s nothing like overwatch buuut I agree the first game was better with more of a halo focus

[@kaiironic2636]

It's nowhere near being like overwatch thank god. But it's more like a class-based shooter that has halo style gunplay, with portals, and destiny looking artstyle.

[@BuffdaddyJamal]

You know what's better than Halo with portals? Halo without portals. The game doesn't need any gimmicks, what it needed to do was replace Halo.

[@nicholasdelaney1407]

Yeah, we don't need another Concord 💀...

[@This-is-a-commentt]

It’s more like destiny than overwatch bro

[@blocky_luke]

Titanfall movement in splitgate would literally be insane on another level

[@pvprangergod4024]

wallrunning?

[@KrisKlicks]

I love the way it moves now

[@boxes_full]

Yooooo thank you so much for doing this video. I like to cycle around games but splitgate is a game I consistently enjoy playing. I forgot what it was but I’ve been saying to myself “man! What is that game that I like to play no matter when!!!”😊

[@realSPACEYY]

dude this looks amazing

[@Cervaaa]

It's scary to see that pretty much only two large content creators reacted to the Splitgate 2 trailer

[@Mr.Mushroom.]

Why does everyone keep calling it a hero shooter? Its a class based shooter. Similar to the classes in Destiny.

[@_MaxHeadroom_]

This game looks amazing visually. I want to try it

[@kSwissh007]

splitgate game modes was soo fun especially domination/showdown/ and king of the hill 💯 hopefully they bring those back in splitgate 2

[@EnceeAssassin]

I’m so hyped for this game. I still play the game because i have so much fun with it. Can’t wait to see how the sequel is. It looks even better than before!

[@guy_5056]

I'm actually planning to try this game regularly. I didn't play the first game since I wasn't a fan of the artsyle but the second game made a huge improvement. The gameplay looks amazing even if it look a bit too competitive for my taste. Some improvements to keep players in the long run are a gamemode that is more casual (slower movement and fewer portals) and a camping/semi-open world with enemies (similar to Destiny) or a PvPvE gamemode. I am concerned about the portal skill gap but I'll try it out.

[@Hecrocks]

It would be awesome if they just like went all in with the speed of the game, like adding wall running, jump pads, maybe some specials like a grapple. Like imagine a game mode with multiple objectives that appear one at a time, and there is like a full race to get to the objectives in between them with a bunch of movement options

[@Halosnakem6g]

This alpha came out when wukong came out so which is why nobody is talking about it

[@GINGERxADE]

Those games don't have even remotely the same audience.

[@me0w99-u6v]

​@@GINGERxADEyea lol, wukong is huge because its the biggest game in china of all time, i dont think those chinese people would know about sg2 xd

[@kykypy3hu4389]

@@GINGERxADE I think a lot of people who play shooters also like to play action games so i disagree

[@Titanic_Tuna]

​@@GINGERxADE Just like how Elden Ring wasn't like Halo Infinite yet when it came out people dropped Halo and even most creators were making videos saying that they'd rather play Elden Ring? Seems like a similar situation to me.

[@GINGERxADE]

@@Titanic_Tuna Yeah, but that's Elden Ring you're talking about. I'm pretty sure even Wukong isn't at that level.

[@MicahD14]

I had no idea thi was even a project... Thanks for covering it!

[@Altronn]

i think adding a cooldown to each portal would be a good idea. It would slow down the pro players, but it would also give others a chance to retaliate against them. Everyone should have access to the portal guns as it's the whole idea of Splitgate, it shouldn't be confined to a single class. Also, a single player campaign would help to get people invested in the world of Splitgate and potentially retain players.

[@davidcampbell5521]

Much love from Jamaica 🇯🇲

[@Deeeceased]

To make things interesting there should be a public map making mode where you’re map can be marked as a playable map for multiplayer. But also to have weapon attachments and edit each attachment with color or whatnot

[@CYBERWOLF-3000]

Im so glad you call it a carbine. people have tried to tell me its pronounced like carbean which sounds terrible.

[@Phantom_Aspekt]

For an alpha, it felt better and more polished than pretty much every AAA game I've played on launch for the last several years and that's saying something. It has real potential and to me personally it felt awesome to play, I just wasn't a fan of the unicorn spew aesthetic assaulting my retinas, I kind of wish it would have more of a 90s dark scifi UT99 aesthetic than what it has currently but regardless, it felt really good to play.

[@patiszejuicebox]

Played the beta for 3 days so far. Performance wise, pretty good! It ran a pretty good 144fps when I had everything at high. Now gameplay. Gunplay is still very solid from SG1. I feel I’m a bit of the opposite. The inherent portal places are way more spread out, making harder to make some solid portal choices on the fly, and as a result, there’s been a bigger emphasis of abilities. I’m hoping with the feedback, it goes the other direction. I’m generally okay with the abilities, as long as have the main thing be, “Oh hey, I can use my portals effectively”

[@MidnightWyvern]

I feel like I'm not entirely opposed to the Faction system, honestly. I did see a lot of people playing Aeros, of course, but in the majority of my games there tended to be a mix which led to some neat plays. That being said, out of 3-4 years playing Halo 3 the most I could manage was about a 1.2 KD, so shooters are one of those that I like but I don't think I'll ever really be great at. I do understand that that means my own experience with this game is going to differ pretty widely from someone at the top of the matchmaking pool. I was definitely blown away by that clip of portal usage even after they literally reduced the number of portal surfaces on the maps compared to the original game. When I play this it brings back my memories of getting good at Tribes Ascend with a similar visual style to the Wipeout series, and it's giving me almost a yearning for this game to succeed. I REALLY hope the next Alpha brings not just changes to these modes and mechanics based on feedback though, but also some slightly bigger maps with 8v8, more power weapons, and just generally the right mix for fun chaos like back in the Halo days.

[@Nadestraight]

I've played 10+ hours of the Alpha now and said many of the same things in my own video. Yet, some people fail to understand why we say these things... I can see many in this videos comments section too. Yes, Portals are Splitgates identity, but when your games core mechanic creates a skillgap so large that it may deter the larger audience you're seeking, and also a terrible viewing experience, you need to question if this mechanic is good for the longevity of the game. I played almost 1000 hours of the original, I won tournaments in Splitgate 1, and I can confidently use the portals. However, I am a realist, and I understand that the larger gaming community may not be as accepting to the mechanic, and don't want to spend hundreds of hours perfecting it. This is what people fail to understand. This company needs to make money, therefor they need the biggest audience possible. A couple thousand players who love portals isn't going to achieve profit. it's as simple as that.

[@Deliveredmean42]

Which is strange. I thought folks are thinking with Portals since... well the Portal games. But I guess that is the minority we are talking here, and this being a faster pace game than the semi-mind puzzler single player game. Does makes me wish there was single player for Splitgate if that is the case... At least a way to preserve this cool concept.

[@joostfloot5279]

Maybe they could introduce a no portal mode. Similar to fortnite's no build mode.

[@Nadestraight]

@@joostfloot5279 they did this with the original game too, but it was a little too late

[@Andybananas]

@@Deliveredmean42 sadly, even though portal was a huge success. noone in the modern age knows about it or has played it, it can pretty much be considered a boomer game.

[@ginja3609]

I’m getting tired of the ideology that every game needs to capture every player. The hole point of the game is a shooter with portals why would they question the mechanic. People who don’t like the portals can go play literally anything else. The true fans of the series are there for the portals and will stay for the portals

[@noahgonzales7474]

I like how they were like, lets take our game that experienced a brief moment of success and make it more like Lawbreakers, a game that NEVER experienced ANY success 🥰

[@evates7553]

I love splitgate 2 so far from what I’ve seen. I played the original splitgate and I enjoyed the portal mechanic a lot, you can do crazy plays with it. I hope to do more in splitgate 2

[@elijahshmijah]

Why are people upset about the added classes/abilities? Everyone still gets to use portals, so the game still gets to maintain its identity. But if we’re comparing it to Halo- as pretty much everyone is- are we forgetting that the past few Halo games had a bunch of different abilities to choose from as well? I was never mad in Halo Reach (for example) when someone else would plant a drop-shield or armor lock or turn invisible or evade, so why would I be mad if splitgate 2 is doing the same sorta thing. Only makes it feel more Halo-like to me and I think that’s a good thing

[@DefaultMii]

because there's enough hero shooters, every other fps I can think of has classes/loadouts

[@elijahshmijah]

@ Well, that is a fair point, you do see that sort of thing a lot these days. But I have faith that splitgate is going to do a great job with *their* take on the genre, even if it includes familiar elements from other games

[@wrketterer]

This game looks to have come a long way from when I played it years ago.

[@yobobby9]

They should make a sound effect loud when someone goes through a portal/warps. Because it will balance good players flanking through portals really easily

[@yourneighbour3309]

i agreeee the trailers remindedd me of titanfall 2s movement, find that amazing at least

[@Antz3The3rd]

It looks promising.

[@spartanrisk]

Halo, Titanfall, Mass Effect, Borderlands, and Gears of War all share something in common. They have a campaign. I'm not saying that it is a necessity but it does make a difference- especially when looking at the casual player base scene. Call of Duty has killed their campaign scene as they lack focus on that aspect of the game now. COD used to be well known for their campaigns. This is something to consider when delving into making Splitgate 2. It can be extremely challenging to find a way to evade a toxic player base and draw more that only care about the competitive scene. I love competitive shooters and I agree with the things you said in this video. I'm really glad you pointed out that not giving want the majority of players want would likely cause the game to die again. Plug and play isn't much of a focus anymore and while I can understand why- I see without it though it kills the wholesome parts of many of our beloved games. Have a generation grow up only on the version of the game with the most micro transactions and some of the most competitive shooting scenes- you can easily see a toxic fanbase grow out of that. If you look back at the games we first played we were terrible at them. The same can be said today for kids learning how to play competitive shooters. I don't want to hear a kid cry because he doesn't know how to win. Also you don't want to get dunked on. It's a very difficult thing to balance when everyone is shoved into one main style of play- a competitive shooter. As much as I love and hate the game Overwatch, you can see a wide variety of players. Those that only play arcade and the game browser. You also get those who only queue for comp. My whole point is if you don't account for the casual scene that wants to go to the forge to play with their buddies on the weekend, then your game won't live as long. I think Splitgate did more things right than wrong but I find it difficult to compete with AAA games if they only stick to their niche. We've already gotten big it's time to branch out.

[@Soulindex]

The reduced portal surfaces feels like a response to the pro players over-utilizing the portals, but that's obviously not addressed the problem here. The simple solution is to bring portal surfaces back, but make a 1 or 2 second cooldown between each portal connection.

[@jrm371]

I would’ve been hyped had they just updated the graphics and provided better maps and weapons. This doesn’t look like Splitgate anymore. The game is already chaotic with portal placement; adding class elements looks like it’ll be too much, visually.

[@kobus9795]

This review hits the nail on the head when it comes to how I feel about the game

[@gwenby_]

i’d be interested in a playtest where they don’t allow shooting through portals, only movement. i hated the people who would just camp and shoot through a portal without being able to see their body, just a colored circle that has bullets coming out of it

[@troysvids4268]

It needs cool and exciting game modes. Period. Looks like it has a lot of potential.

[@GARYtheCANNIBAL]

I don't see anyone here talking about this so I'll say, the zone control mode is *awful.* Why is capture progress shared between both teams?? If a team dominates all the way to 90% capture progress but then gets wiped, the enemy team only has to capture the remaining 10% and they win. Bizzare mechanic, hope that's not intentional.

[@giacomosantiniguitar]

That is 100% intentional and it feels super wierd. I think they wanted to try a twist on the KingOfTheHill format, but this is super unrewarding for being in control

[@gigathus3314]

They've stated that due to the feedback from the testers they are changing it to be more like classic king of the hill with no shared progress

[@sangoblue9508]

i think as an alpha that went out in just a bit longer but same period spectre divide did way better in his category to be a long terme game

[@BlueStar5077]

I liked the equal starts and old school movement in SG1, but I feel I could definitely have a lot of fun with this when it's available for xbox

[@HankNuclear]

I never played the first game. This looks sick.

[@fripp3940]

we need a big halo competitor right now

[@griff2181]

I will definitely play it when it comes to console. I only stopped playing the first game because they announced they were ending development for it and making a second one

[@ginja3609]

They kept supporting it it’s still fun. Also when the second comes out they’ll keep sg1 running for the people who end up disliking the classes

[@griff2181]

@@ginja3609 they are dedicated. How are lobbies on console, does it take a while to find a game because I remember it being about a minute before

[@RobGThai]

As someone who never play SG1. I think the alpha is fun arena shooter with UT vibe, I like it a lot. Ability to me is fun and when you said it doesn’t matter when you master portals, I agree and that’s a good thing. Portal is SG identity, abilities shouldn’t be so OP than portal. Abilities/loadout should add to the experience, they need to be creative with it. The class identity is something I’m unsure. I think high-tier end game should have full customization regardless of which class you should. The idea of class generally is to role playing and prevent info overload early on. However, splitting into 3 solid classes will hurt productivity in the long run, see Destiny2. As you have to always offer something to all three classes at all time or they’d feel left out. I don’t see SG2 being hero shooter, far from it. Hero shooter double down on speciality and personality of each character. You can’t go that route without losing portal identity. I think the team is exploring new flavors of the product rather than inventing new product altogether. Now I’m gonna go look for portal guide to get ready for beta.

[@franticmonkey-h1s]

I hope it does well

[@TehCakeIzALie1]

Ah, they're making the Quake Champions mistake.

[@katekat7804]

I had so much fun with Splitgate 1 Im so excited for 2! Probably gonna put another few hundred hours into it like last time. I really think they need ti improve skins, and give players something to work towards. Im not very excited for it being another faction/hero type shooter tho honestly

[@chrisjulien7698]

Christ bless you, it's gonna take quite a bit to save this one ngl

[@RuTo94]

Splitgate 2 spiced things up with classes and skills which is not a bad thing but I wish they kept it to the core of old school Halo/Portal style personally I think they should of added more maps and more guns but I get why they did this to get more players to play there game which is kinda working.

[@mat_max]

Truly following Halo's steps

[@redacted_158]

I never played much of Splitgate 1 because despite the interesting mechanic of Halo with portals, it just didn't have enough uniqueness or a satisfying enough gunplay to keep me engaged. From what I've played of this Alpha though, the classes (not heroes, since everyone wants to call this a "hero shooter") give just enough switch up to gameplay mechanics, plus the improved gunplay and movement system, that I think this game has much more potential than the first one. The possibility of it flopping shortly after release is still high, but I will definitely give it my time if they continue to update it regularly

[@lackinganame7857]

The class ability thing is a interesting problem, Off the top of my head I think most hero like shooters struggle with the class ability because they are largely infantry vs infantry in smallish maps, so there just isn't a lot of variables in the match to shake things up. In the older Battlefield games classes had a verity of tools to deal with different problems and with a range of vehicles and lots of players it created a lot of variables to deal with, for example: so you might have tank problem for a bit but then you have a snipers the next. Like I said just off the top of my head, but I think match variables are too few in most hero like shooters.

[@nuteniumtokyo]

One of the biggest things people wanted in splitgate one was wallrunning the potential for wall running in this portal game would be huge.

[@RedBelmont456]

While I enjoyed the original Splitgate, my biggest concern about so far from seeing the sequel trailer and gameplay here in your video is that my worst fears are coming to pass. The first was aesthetically closer to Halo compared to Destiny 2, but gunplay wise it really did just feel like Destiny 2 PvP but actually balanced... One thing many devs today don't seem to understand is that the biggest thing that made Halo so popular and so accessible was the movement speed wasn't that fast, as console shooters were deliberately made slower on purpose so controllers would be easier to use in them when compared to what WAS popular at the time, which was Quake and Unreal... and even CS, which is still best experienced on K&M is still significantly slower than those... another thing that made it more accessible compared to CS is that in most gamemodes, headshots with precision weapons did not matter until the shields were either nearly down or completely down, exceptions to this rule if you understood bleed through damage and the importance of explosive and power weapons is what separated the good player from the bad as this is where the strategy really came into play... Splitgate only has the single regen health lifebar where, like in Destiny 2, headshots matter at all times, but only just enough to make the TTK faster if you land all headshots in a row without missing... even with the higher magnetism, because the head is a smaller target, it means it's WAY easier for the average player to be much more inconsistent with their shots, leading to a lot more lost engagements because they missed a headshot, when in Halo, a bodyshot would've more than sufficed and kept the playing field even... add to that the faster movement and jump speed and mechanics, as well as the additional abilities and perks with the portal traversal itself, and now you have an incredibly sweaty FPS that will harshly punish you for just going for body shots most of the time just to not miss at all, because of the fast movement speed, and this basically means the people who are gonna be good at clicking heads are gonna utterly crush it, which is gonna lead to complete and total upsets, which means players quit out of frustration... one way to alleviate this will be with a ton of casual modes or by having modes where you can't sprint, slide or jetpack and the only way to really traverse quickly through a map is by using portals... another way to potentially alleviate this is to add Reach Style Overshields (the Pre TU ones) where it will make it so that no weapon except power weapons and explosions can deal damage to HP until the shield is completely drained, which means TTKs will get a bit higher and getting headshots won't be as important until the shields are down... I personally still love Halo CE, 3 and pre TU Reach because of how their shield and damage mechanics work, they add layers of strategy without making the game impossibly hard to enjoy after a hard day of work...

[@mattbon4101]

I'm so hyped man! My game rotation is lookin good for 2025!

[@uglyfuji1452]

i rlly rlly rlly rlly hope they fix this game. i loved sg1. they NEED to make the maps bigger and more vertical

[@Gamer-Pinion]

I had no idea that this was even coming out….oh boy

[@Random-th7wm]

the reason me and my buddy's stopped playing Splitgate 1 was because something changed with matchmaking (or maybe everyone's skill level rose significantly above ours) because in the beginning the matchmaking felt very Halo-like. There was a balance to the lobbies, some matches we'd stomp the other team and then vice versa with a good amount of close/competitive matches happening in between. Later in the game's life cycle we hopped back on and every single match was an insane sweatfest with everyone knowing the optimal portal angles. It felt like every casual game we played was basically comp and after getting our heads stomped in for a few days we moved on. Hopefully in this sequel they revert whatever matchmaking changes they made in the first game.

[@ZakTheGhost]

I wish they had the art style of Splitgate 2 but the gameplay of Splitgate 1. Being able to spawn with classes and having the ultimate ability completely changes the feel of Splitgate 2.

[@sora_2342]

Personally I really liked the first game! The portal mechanic was soooo fun and me and my brothers had a blast playing it! The only reason we stoped playing was be cuz the devs said they where going to stop developing the game to make this sequel so we will 4sure be back playing when this launches

[@proud_crusader8563]

Splitgates skill gap is only an issue if the casuals leave. If the casuals leave then anyone new will only face sweats. I also think the abilities should be apart of your class and you can pick and choose perks and abilities yourself to make something intrinsic to you

[@Iki_dp]

6:40 Koth has longer spawn timers the longer the game goes on, this is why you should wait to capture the hill once you kill most of the enemy team as well. (Cause progress to capture the point does not reset ever, so a team can swoop in at the last second and steal a point) If spawns were faster i think the mode would be less fun, imo. Not a problem, you actually get rewarded for kills and punished for dying in this mode, instead of mindlessly respawning and rushing the zone...

[@nazirrhea5841]

When I was playing it, I had two issues. 1. No controller support because I'm a controller main and have been since day 1, and every time I changed my sensitivity settings, it felt like it was either too sensitive or not enough. 2. No noob friendliness because I went in just as it came out and was still trying to figure out the jump booster, my abilities, and how portals worked, and I didn't even get a chance to get used to everything because I was LITERALLY JUMPED by the enemies and rage quit. Rather would play The Finals, at least I understand that and actually LEARNED how to play it and enjoy it.

[@yugene-lee]

If portals are overpowered, perhaps they need to have a cooldown so you can't just spam. Maybe like a gun cooldown where you can shoot them fast, but say you shoot 5 in a row back to back, you overheat? I think Splitgate could benefit a lot from not being a hero shooter and being more like Halo where you have to pick up abilities and guns, just in my opinion.

[@Andybananas]

i really hope they just end up making it a splitgate 1 remake instead of a whole new game. i dont like that there are 2 OP weapons on the map instead of just having every single weapon on the map like a classic arena shooter. i also think that the class shooter idea is gonna work, it has been done to death at this point and i would love to see a shooter that doesnt try adding unfair advantages like these.

[@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034]

Splitgate 2 reminds me of the time Quake 3 introduced abilities and extra perks with the Team Arena expansion. Hope the arena shooter vibes are reinforced instead distancing too much of them.

[@Josukegaming]

I'm really glad to hear and see that the movement class is similar to Titanfall 2, but the other classes seem redundant and gimmicky. I really wish they would've made the portal and movement character the only character, with some light ways to tweak him rather than making it into a fundamentally different class / character like overwatch and destiny. One of the classes be way better than the others, and who in their right mind wants to play a support class or deal with wallhacks in a movement / halo like game?

[@KingKrouch]

I really enjoyed the first game, but based on what we've seen so far, this game really needs legacy maps, dedicated server tools, and a proper level editor to stay relevant. We need more Unreal Tournament style arena shooters around, and the first game reminded me more of that than Halo if I'm being honest. Halo is more of a slow and strategic kind of game, while Splitgate is very frantic and fast paced.

[@T37-y6m]

I think split gate needs a specific style/personality , like halo has the spartans and elites, titanfall has the titans and pilots, tf2 has the mercenaries and overwatch has the heroes

[@cypherlt369]

the main reason i dropped splitgate was because it was just halo with portals. it’s a cool concept but if they fleshed it out more and gave the game its own identity beyond that, it probably would have helped out. like bro, the guns are literally all just more sauceless reskins of halo guns.

[@Ylylguru]

I played the beta today and loved it

[@gabesleeping]

I’m pretty excited to play this once it launches. I will say I’m not too excited about the hero class thing but besides that I have high hopes for this game as I really liked Splitgate 1.

[@LU6TIE]

Definitely needs more portal areas bc the new movement and gunplay feels reaaly good and up to modern standards

[@jamesford2192]

Those few months where splitgate blew up man I had a blast with the game.

[@Aeoss_1]

I think this is just them showing some of the variety available in game and not necessarily the competitive scene. I'm sure they can make ranked game modes where it's all portals and no abilities. But for everyone else just jumping on, they can choose something familiar from another game or concept before dipping into using portals. Adding abilities will help diversify combat around objective based game modes. But in terms of all this available all the time, it isn't the spaghetti the fan base was ready for when it's all buried under hero shooter/destiny ingredients. I'm keeping my eye on this, because it may still be more fun than what else may be afoot

[@Denvious001]

Mint ily

[@giacomosantiniguitar]

Played the alpha. As you said, abilities felt like some useless over complication... Found myself using them just because i had them there, the best solution in every team fight is always to shoot and use portals. Idk, i feel like gameplay would be "cleaner" without them. Gunplay and movement is a 9/10, game has potential but something is off

[@egghead7506]

A bit part missing from splitgate 1 that i really hope is present in this game is incentive. I think splitgate 1 died off so fast because there was no incentive to keep playing the game, no rewarding feeling for winning or sweating, amazing gameplay with no rewarding features. They had loot drops but they were very incredibly stingy with how to acquire them which i believe turned away alot of people

[@semiramisubw4864]

i havent heard that games name in feels like ages lmao. LEts just hope they go crazy with movement like Hyperscale, that BR died insanely fast

[@mcgeeyeeeyeee]

Hopefully they realize what made Splitgate so good was it’s simplicity and classic halo feel

[@il804]

Hope it goes well. I still okay the first game, honestly, I hope they didn't change a lot of stuff from the original

[@wacklemandoe]

Splitgate 1 imo died due to halo infinite’s surprise beta drop. People forgot the massive halo starvation people had because of halo infinite’s multiple delays. When halo infinite dropped everybody collectively moved from splitgate.

[@MysteriousPotatoe]

If they add new factions and abilities and more maps and more things that will increase the different ways a game will play out, will increase the lifespan of the game