MLB Not Knowing the Rules Moments

[@PatrickHogan]

“That’s ball four. No one really knows.” *Close up on Angel Hernandez*

[@alanhess9306]

Angel knew it was ball four, you can see him raise 4 fingers toward the dugout. It was the batter who was confused.

[@DanStrayer]

Only thing I’d add is this: after the Expos D effs up the infield fly rule in SF, their manager (Frank Robinson) saw his players confused and arguing with the umpire. Robinson ran out and told his players to get back to their position: they blew it, nothing to argue about.

[@LeglessWonder]

“A standing boo” lmao

[@douglasmagowan2709]

For that last one, you should use Jon Miller's call "that was the worst baserunning in the history of the game."

[@lowandoutside]

2:17 One out, bases loaded. It's an infield fly. You can see the home plate umpire call it. Bonds was automatically out (unless it bounced foul). When it hit the grass in fair territory, it's a live ball, and runners can advance, but there's no force. Expos were up 4-3 before this play! This tied it. Expos did win 6-4.

[@HealthyHearts]

What I love about this one is the manager coming out and yelling at his own players "Learn the rules!"

[@camicawber]

@@HealthyHearts That manager was Frank Robinson, and I wish it had been included in this clip. I can't remember another time when I've seen a manager storm out of a dugout and tearing into his players instead of arguing with the ump like everybody thought he was going to.

[@anf-2abuffalo603]

I’ll never forget a call-up catcher for the Yankees, Robert Brantley or something like that, last year was on first and forgot that there was only one out in the inning. The batter hit a fly ball. He rounded third and the defense realized he never tagged up, after which they tagged first. That was probably one of the most frustrating fan moments in my life.

[@stevebuhrt3504]

I like how Greinke was the one to remind the ump it was ball four, what a gentleman

[@alanhess9306]

Nobody reminded the umpire of anything. The umpire knew it was ball four, you can see him gesture to the dugout holding up 4 fingers.

[@jdon2638]

Alan, clearly you know nothing about umpiring, stick with talking about coffee.​@alanhess9306

[@redneckgamer1888]

I feel like half of these aren’t forgetting the rules. Like the missed ball 4s and the guy picking up a fair ball. They know the rules, they just didn’t know the situation

[@dahammer044]

In my head canon, these pro ball players forgot that it takes 4 balls to invoke a walk

[@psymar]

Sometimes they do know there are three balls but they want to make absolutely sure it has been called ball four. Sometimes if you leave early the ump gets mad and calls a strike out of spite.

[@amantedelcane420]

@@psymar Umpires don't call strikes out of spite. You've watched one too many movies.

[@docf3605]

@@amantedelcane420 I thought The Naked Gun was an Umpire documentary, am I wrong?

[@amantedelcane420]

@@docf3605 Good point. Umpires typically do tend to keep a Hoover on hand for messy home plate cleanups.

[@MagnetoJones]

2:50 There was a situation the season before where the ball got lodged under a wall, and the player attempted to get it instead of calling for a dead ball timeout. It’s tough because if Cespedes attempts to get the ball out, and it’s actually stuck, it’s no longer a dead ball because he touched it. It also helps that this happened during a spring training game, so no great loss

[@alexh8613]

1:30 the umpire's ruling on that was a complete joke. Somehow they ruled that Holiday didn't interfere, even though he kept playing long after he was ruled out, sliding into 1st Base as a throw was coming in. Causing the 1st baseman to miss the throw

[@bwburke94]

You're correct. Once Holliday started to retreat toward first base, he was no longer protected by the "retired runner continuing to advance" clause and can be called for interference. Because he's already out, the runner out on interference would be the runner on which the play was being made, Ellsbury. The rule was changed the following year in response to this play.

[@alanhess9306]

MLB agreed with the call of no interference. You should learn the rules.

[@benjaminmorris4962]

It was ruled not interference because it also prevented his teammate from touching the bag. Notice how after jumping over him, the batter sprints back to the bag. He never touched it cuz his idiot teammate got in the way of everyone.

[@chawk678]

So, are you saying that Angel Hernandez messed up something as simple as counting to 4?! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!

[@alanhess9306]

No, that is not what happened. We all know it's popular to bash Angel but save it for when he screws up. He called ball and the batter did not realize it was ball four.

[@chawk678]

@Alan Hess it has zero to do with calling out Angie for his calls. They're horrible. He's an awful person who uses race to hide his galactic level incompetence.

[@alanhess9306]

@@chawk678 Yes, we know his reputation, but for you to call him out when he did nothing wrong is rather lame.

[@ronmcmartin4513]

@1:07--Don't be searching for somebody to blame, Angel Hernandez is Right There behind the plate

[@alanhess9306]

Angel did nothing wrong here.

[@ronmcmartin4513]

@@alanhess9306 --Do you work for the Umpire Union/Police Internal Affairs(Professional Stds) Dept.?("We investigated Ourselves, and found No wrongdoing!")😁

[@brianarbenz1329]

In that 1951 playoff game between the Dodgers and Giants, Bobby Thomson made one of the dumbest base running errors, not noticing that a teammate ahead of him had stopped at 2nd until he reach that base. That would have gone down as the boneheaded play that cost the Giants the pennant, except for Thomson’s later plate appearance, which I believe everyone knows about.

[@carlwitt3934]

Can we get a breakdown by someone who DOES know the rules? I'm confused by a few of these myself.

[@MrMaelstrom07]

Would be nice to let the replay run a bit. With the Yankees play, R1 didn't know he was out so he's not out for interference. Play on. With Bonds, that's got to be the shortest RBI in the modern era. The last one, he missed 2nd base and had to go back and touch. So he was late getting to the plate. Any other questions?

[@Aaron42J]

On the Bonds play (Giants-Expos) the clip is missing the context. If you go here kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6KVp5Rjgq6Kptk you can see the whole context. The batter was out due to the infield fly rule, so none of the runners had to advance. The Expos forgot that, and thought that tagging home plate prevented the runner on 3rd from scoring. The runner on 3rd forgot as well, or he wouldn't have advanced down the line, since he could be tagged out. Instead, while the Expos relaxed, he realized what was going on, and snuck around and tagged home plate. The full video is hilarious, because the Expos manager comes out to yell AT HIS OWN PLAYERS, not the umps for once.

[@steveroyer1628]

@@Aaron42J Bond was out because of the infield fly, even if the fielder drops the ball. Moving around the bases is up to the runners. Very stupid move from the guy at 3rd. Can't believe the 3rd base coach let him run like this. 🤣

[@jackgibsxxx0750]

@@Aaron42J ..... Thanks. I wanted to see that at another angle and that clip did it. I was thinking about how far that runner stepped away from the plate/out of the baseline before tagging home. Not far enough to be out. Just enough to NOT draw attention to himself before tagging. Heads up thinking on the runner. But like you said he should have stayed on 3rd. But he fixed his mistake and came out ahead. The other 2 runners advanced too so they paid attention. Do you know who won that game??

[@bernier42]

@@jackgibsxxx0750 Expos won 6-4.

[@CinemaDemocratica]

That Cespedes play still breaks my brain.

[@boybawang1981]

DAMN!! Even Angel somehow f**ks up a bases on balls!!

[@alanhess9306]

Angel did not f**k up. He called ball four and the batter didn't realize it.

[@boybawang1981]

​@@alanhess9306 his strikezone is still atrocious!!

[@alanhess9306]

@@boybawang1981 Not disagreeing, but save your bashing for when he screws up. You will have plenty of opportunities.

[@boybawang1981]

@@alanhess9306 u also have to realize tho...that woulda been called a strike on a different day for Angel Hernandez!!

[@alanhess9306]

@@boybawang1981 Now you are being nonsensical. Try to get real.

[@docf3605]

These videos always seem to relieve my stress.

[@CinemaDemocratica]

There's one that always does it for me: Batter hits a long fly ball and the corner outfielder -- I think it was left field -- goes full Spiderman up the wall with his glove over his head as high as he can reach. The ball lands in the grass about 20' in front of him. He even realizes at the last second and kinda throws himself in the general direction, resulting in a lovely little planking face-plant for good measure. Damndest thing I've ever seen. Like, what *exactly* was going through his head?

[@dylanpetty2469]

Smart play by Holliday. He was breaking up the double play 😂

[@Kirkshelton]

Bullpen on the field. Pitchers hitting. The good ol days.

[@SucramRekcirts]

That Ruben Rivera play is still amazing hahaha dumbest baserunning ever

[@jradko]

Baseball is my favourite. Complicated rules that make the players think, the cat and mouse game on each pitch, spectacular plays in the field, small ball, dingers, the fact that field dimensions don't have to be all the same. Etc... I love it

[@markokuhar670]

Need a Byron Buxton running into the wall and injuring himself compilation

[@HenryFrederick]

This video segment is ludicrous - what the heck was the result of each??????????????????????

[@chawk678]

A video with a homework assignment.

[@robpierce4712]

I wouldn't call the ones where they forgot the count as examples of not knowing the rules.

[@red5llaw]

EVERY MLB player walking out on the Diamond and seeing Angel "Scumbag" Hernandez- OOOOH SHIT NO!!

[@preston1916]

Matt Holiday in a yankees uniform is bizarre

[@Zwerggoldhamster]

Me, randomly watching this video: "yes, indeed. I don't know the rules"

[@Alexanderthesportsfan1]

1:56 what happened here? I have been watching for all of my life and I am Confused here?

[@Maky6171]

The expos one is funny cause they all argue it

[@billytcat]

What was the situation on that Bonds pop-up?

[@benjaminmorris4962]

3:35 Wasn't he already on second base??? How did he end up in a run down between second and first??? If he didn't know the infield fly rule let's you stay on base/eliminates force outs, wouldn't he be in a rundown between second and third???

[@camicawber]

That's the runner on first. You can't see it very well in this clip, but in the longer clip posted by MLB you can see that the runner on second actually made it back to the bag. He's obscured by the 2B here, but search KZbin for "Mets take advantage of infield fly rule" and you'll see he's back at second base. Then I assume he breaks for third when the rundown starts. The Mets have the runner at first dead to rights for the last out of the inning, so there's no need for them to start throwing the ball all over the yard to try to get the lead runner.

[@ghostdogzx-1474]

Santiago was probably dropping a deuce. It happens.

[@lowandoutside]

0:52 As you might have expected, he struck out.

[@andrewjohnson1573]

3:49-4:10. And both coaches agree after the game, everybody runs suicides!

[@paulbilger3782]

It amazes me that these guys get hundred of thousands, millions of dollars and they don’t know the rules. I mean they even lose track of how many outs there are, and all they have to do is look up at the JUMBOTRON scoreboard

[@carterpao]

Can someone explain the clip of the expos and giants

[@jerryvesselmusic2448]

I think the infield fly rule was called so Bonds was automatically out. The runner on 3rd scored amid the confusion

[@Spirit0502]

Is it just me or do the Mets get way too many extra outs from people not understanding infield flies

[@rumalo]

the giants-expos one someone explained what happened? the forced out at home don't apply ?

[@dereklee918]

not sure how many runners were on base but I think they need to tag perez for the out.

[@baseballdude13000]

It's an Infield Fly which means the batter's automatically out and the runners are not forced to advance. Therefore you cannot "force" him out by touching the plate, you have to tag him.

[@tuckerupkes1663]

as what ​ @baseballdude13000 said, if they would catch it the runners need to tag if they don't batters out but runners can do as they please

[@MikeDCWeld]

@@tuckerupkes1663 not quite right. Whether they caught it or not, the runners were free to stay where they were at or advance without tagging up. Therefore, there were no force outs available to the defense.

[@mph7282]

@@MikeDCWeld To clarify...if the ball is caught, the runners still have to tag up. There is no force either way and runners advance at their own risk, but they still have to tag up on a ball caught on the fly.

[@aplynx]

Why do these videos always show a setup with no payoff. The umps are going to look at this and the ruling is next video.

[@jacksonsettles7490]

Put the yordan alvarez 4 strike at bat

[@masonrodriguez5334]

Make a video where players harass the ump alot but don’t get ejected

[@GlucoseGuy]

Perhaps I don't understand this infield fly rule @ 3:35. I understand that it's to protect the runners that are supposed to be holding up on base. It's not easy to see, so maybe the runner started after the ball hit the ground and then got caught between the bases? It just seemed like he was really far out there.. so didn't look like he'd been tagging up so I thought a throw to 1st would have done the trick.

[@AEMoreira81]

It’s to prevent the infielders from dropping the ball and then try to get a double play. There must be a force play at third for that to apply. There is also an intentional drop rule for line drives that requires a force play anywhere on the diamond (that is, first base is occupied). Also, Neifi Perez didn’t know the rule either. If the ball was caught, the Expos could appeal for not retouching third.

[@alanhess9306]

Runners are not supposed to be holding up on any base, they may run if they wish. There is no need to tag up because the ball was not caught.

[@camicawber]

"so maybe the runner started after the ball hit the ground and then got caught between the bases? " That's exactly what happened. The ball hit the ground, the runner didn't realize that the batter was already out and so he thought he was forced to run.

[@deanmachine7971]

Good video 👌

[@chadwedul1787]

Obviously the players aren't paid enough!

[@joshuasteward6097]

Given that the owners are billionaires and we go to games to watch the players play, I agree.☺️

[@mikeslater6246]

Personally I think the whole video is poorly done. It showed a bunch of plays but most of them I have no idea what rule they allegedly didn't know. Just a bunch of confusion edited end-to-end with no explanation of what the problems were. A couple of them were obvious but most of them there was no explanation whatsoever.

[@PatrickHaskins]

Several of them had nothing to do with forgetting rules. In the ball 4 clips, the players just forgot the count, not a rule.

[@Alexanderthesportsfan1]

what happened here? 3:55

[@K1OIK]

stop cutting video short

[@billcary30]

the catchers foot is in contact with home plate iether that's a put out or not. i looked up the game they ruled it had to be a tag? if bases were loaded how the hell is that u got to tag him out isn't that a force? and it was bases loaded because they said everybody moved up. SOunds like the damn umps didn't know the rules

[@vonskyme9133]

No, the rules error here is with you (assuming the play you're talking the one with the fielders standing around the plate). The ball was ruled an infield fly, correctly, which means the batter is out even if it drops. That removes the force.

[@HealthyHearts]

Even the Expos manager yelled at his players for not knowing the rules.

[@marybethchavez3740]

Why do the Giants not now the rules smh

[@Alexanderthesportsfan1]

2:42 this is so stupid! How is he in the majors?

[@ellieandronansvlogs7081]

bro relax people are human not robots these things happen stop sounding so snobbish and saying "how could you" like you know everything

[@awoopa_paul5867]

👍

[@SorokingProd30]

Fun fact I’m the 65th and 66th like. I liked it on my school computer and my iPad. Also the last clip when he was going to 3rd bro said fuck it I’m running home

[@Andrew-qy8vj]

I hate the infield fly rule. If you hit an infield popup with a runner on, then that double play is on you. If you don't like it, make a better hit!

[@jonnyb1021]

Tell us you dont understand the rule without telling us you dont understand the rule.

[@alexh8613]

@@jonnyb1021 He understands the rule. He's saying that the rule is stupid. That you should be punished for hitting a ball in such a shitty place when you have runners on base. The infield fly is a bail out for a poorly hit ball.

[@Burt1038]

ez fix: just make it to where instead of being an automatic out, the infield fly guarantees each runner advances one base if the fielder drops it. If you don't like it, make a better catch!

[@MikeDCWeld]

@@Burt1038 or better yet, simply have it remove the requirement for runners to tag up. Keep both sides honest.

[@Burt1038]

@@MikeDCWeld I thought of that also, but no that would be awful to have a player get 2-3 rbi's on a friggin' pop-up lol. Scores would go through the roof...

[@Camdencorrea18]

Do MLB players outfeild from home throw

[@geoffreyhooker9005]

Should have included Josh Paul rolling the ball out the mound after not catching the third strike in the ALCS on Pierzynski

[@andyhighroller8217]

….why does SF make up like, 75% of these clip😭😪🤷🏻‍♂️🫠 My bet? _Sporting Videos_ is either a Giants fan with humor or a Dodgers fan with spite, either way, *respectful golf clap*