How The 2010 Phaneuf Deal Came To Be & Where It's Gone From There w/ Brian Burke | NHL Trade Trees

Steve Dangle spoke with former Calgary and Toronto GM Brian Burke about his famous 2010 deal that saw Dion Phaneuf become a member of the Leafs. How did this deal happen? What were negotiations like? & Ultimately, what did that trade evolve into?
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[@sdpn]

"I like you Matt, but would have traded two of you to get Dion" - Hilarious

[@sportskids1541]

That’s probably going to be in part 2

[@789sirhc]

Hey Steve, Do the Iggy trade to the flames from the stars! I'm curious to know what exactly came of that through everything.

[@carterchurchill4137]

2017 still gives me nightmares

[@ezramcduffie740]

Do how the Bruins got Nathan Horton from the Kyle McLaren trade tree

[@azharjanjua1]

@Travis Reyna that was in 88

[@stanthemn]

Fans here in Calgary will always love Ragin' Stajan after the emotional goal he scored against the Oilers after his baby son died and for the 2015 playoff series winner he scored against the Canucks

[@geesa87]

Fun fact: Fredrik Sjöström is now the GM of one of the most successful teams in Sweden, captained by Joel Lundqvist (Hank's twin)

[@colecalleri3234]

Joel in nhl21 looks so much like hank

[@evann-t2915]

@@colecalleri3234 it’s almost like... identical twins... _look similar_ 😳

[@Gravy_Jones22]

Loved him with the Rangers. So damn fast.

[@mathieufortier2333]

You forgot about when Ottawa traded phaneuf to L.A.

[@BeastOfMetal1989]

Which eventually ties into Duclair-for-Dzingel with the Jackets via Nick Shore.

[@nolananderson4782]

...and it wasn't even the worst move the Kings made in 2018

[@sportskids1541]

That’s probably going to be in pt 2

[@liltiger3]

Ottawa wasn't in the deal for Phaneuf originally, and these trade trees only really focus on what the two original teams involved did with the assets in the first trade. No disrespect to Ottawa, they just weren't the focus I presume.

[@AverageJosephgaming]

@@liltiger3 then don't call it "& Where It's Gone From There"

[@kode-man23]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: this might be the biggest trade in recent history that was almost completely inconsequential for either team.

[@TopDogLeaveuCripple]

no cares if you said it before

[@Breakthemallsdown]

As a Flames fan, I am happy with how this trade worked out. Stajan is loved by this fan base. His memorable goal coming back after the tragic passing of his baby, the charitable work he has done in Calgary and scoring the series clincher against the Canucks. There aren’t to many Flames fans that can say a bad word about him.

[@crackingtheshell7959]

and he's continued to be a part of the flames family post-retirement. can't even say that of iggy.

[@jotsky3668]

He’ll be involved with the organization for years to come

[@SnipeNScoreProductions]

When I worked at Canadian Tire Centre I talked to Dion a bit as we both entered the loading docks. He's a great guy! Unfortunately he got dealt to LA like a few weeks later lol

[@oliverk.8312]

didn't he sleep with his teammate's wife once?

[@isaacwhelan4502]

As a Sens fan I was at the Ottawa Boston playoffs game 2, where Dion scored in OT. Since that goal I gained an appreciation for the guy.

[@youngo1]

Great community guy

[@jacobchaimovitch8158]

Excited for the J.S. Giguere tree

[@RealWalterWhite123]

Ooo that'll be a big one

[@steveciancone8941]

Is Brian Burke gonna be ft in the second trade video too? Bc obvi he also made that deal as well.

[@sportsnet]

He definitely will be! 😃

[@SirZapdos]

The Dany Heatley for Marian Hossa trade tree would be interesting. Milan Michalek is a part of it, and I think a lot of people forget how long he played in Ottawa.

[@frozen-curmudgeon]

I cant imagine them doing a bit on that because of the reasoning for the trade initially.

[@Wexter0083]

@@frozen-curmudgeon They can just mention that Heatley was in a car accedent which resulted in a death of a team mate. Heatley wanting a fresh start asked for a trade.

[@cragan1145]

These trade tree videos are always cool, but having the GM interview alongside it is a huge plus. It's cool to see the thought process on trading a player, especially a big name.

[@AlanNadeauIII]

Awesome that you got Brian Burke on. Also for some reason I haven't been getting the notifications for these videos but I have been for other Sportsnet videos.

[@ozzydo2314]

I often wonder how Dion career would have went had he never been traded to the leafs. He was a beast in Calgary but had too much responsibility thrown on him starting on day 1.

[@gcmgome]

My thoughts exactly.

[@DropKick-yq6ub]

He had to support either Toronto's defence was trash

[@YLCC23]

It would've been an interesting career that's for sure. 100% would've been somewhere other than Calgary though. Iginla wanted him gone, to the point where he apparently told Sutter something along the lines of "Trade me or trade Dion." and the Flames were not gonna trade Iginla in 2009.

[@2kconcrete]

Pheanuf is a loser . He went to la and ruined us Since dion became a leaf they have not won a round Since he became a sen they have not won a round Since he became a king we have not won a round What a mess

[@ozzydo2314]

@@2kconcrete when he became a sen they went to the eastern conference finals. La was struggling before Dion went there and management decided to away overpay for under performing players like doughty.

[@daveDavoli9737]

Loved it!! Good idea, especially with no hockey being played currently. Keep them coming maybe do some historic misses like a player they picked when there was a gem just sitting there waiting. Thanks.

[@soadboy66]

These videos are awesome, please keep doing them!

[@fg8512]

I love hearing Burke's side of things! Hope he's in the next one

[@huntermacdougall476]

Been waiting for this

[@TiegenCosta]

I met Phanuef a couple days after his trade when he watched his family member play against the Oil Kings. We were a youth hockey team sitting in front of his box at Rexall. The dude was so nice and soft spoken.. kinda crazy to see him dish the body but act like an angel

[@JeffKing310]

Very interesting video - love hearing from Burkie for his perspective.

[@CelicaCrazed]

Loved the commentary by Burke! Great insight behind the trade.

[@chriscollins2147]

Steve you can't just leave a TRADE TREE on a cliffhanger like that!! That is torture! Loving the stuff you recorded while you were taking some time with the baby, congratulations again man!

[@lMike2Dopel]

Part 2: Jason Blake & Vesa Toskala for JS GIGUERE 😂

[@mcj88]

As a Flames fan I remember this trade very vividly, and from our POV I feel that it was a deal of wild desperation - Calgary started 2009-10 really hot (an ominous blown 5-goal lead to Chicago in October aside) but by December had cooled a bit, and in January they entered a total free fall, losing 9 straight - 3 being shootout losses - going into January 30. Then they finally snap the losing streak with a 6-1 win over Edmonton (who Calgary _swept_ that season, one of their only highlights) on Hockey Night in Canada, and then the next day the deal goes down seemingly out of nowhere, at least to me. How'd it work out? Sometimes I've joked to friends that we "won" the deal just on the fact that Stajan stayed in Calgary for a good 8 years while every other piece had been dealt or otherwise moved on, but honestly I really think that for all the hype it was kind of a wash - neither team really improved _that_ much with what they acquired, I feel. I know my Flames at least treaded water the next few years, despite dealing their #1 defenseman they made it clear that they were _not_ rebuilding, instead sticking with the aging Iginla & Kiprusoff core for a few more seasons, hoping for a surprise playoff appearance that never came to be; and while the Leafs _did_ make the playoffs with Dion once, well... yeah. It was common at the time to see people compare it to the Doug Gilmour trade 18 years prior, but aside from being between the same teams and being at the same time of year I really don't think there's much of a comparison to be made - _neither_ team really improved in 2010 the way Toronto did in 1992. (Y'all should totally do that trade tree someday though, just sayin')

[@kirant]

I have to admit that the details from the Flames perspective make this trade very interesting. I think in the course of 2(?) weeks, the Flames punted out both Phaneuf and Jokinen for a pile of spare parts. Stajan worked out and has had some fan favourite moments (penalty shot goal after losing his son, series winning goal against Vancouver)...but the Flames (more accurately, Sutter likely) hit the panic button after building a "playoff" team and seemed to take every trade available. Even if the players coming back weren't that good. A rumbling at the time was that quite a few GMs were quite upset at Sutter over the Phaneuf trade because they thought they could top the Leafs' offer. And, seeing what came out of it, I don't think I can disagree. But at the same time, the Flames would have made out like bandits had they gotten those other rumoured deals. The Flames/Leafs trade does feel like a wash and, when the best piece the Flames got was a role player with some memorable goals, it seems almost inconsequential at the end of the day in terms of impact on the on-ice product.

[@scottmarks6019]

Dangles. These trade vids are the absolute best!!!

[@RedFlameKnight]

hey steve will you do a prospect pyramid this year? Love those videos. Keep up the great work man!

[@michaeltrinkus2415]

Thanks Steve

[@bighubbz7866]

That game against the Cannuks was the first I ever saw in person...excellent introduction into the leafs fan experience! I just wish that I hadn't asked my dad to buy me the book copy of the team roster.... Immediately out of date....

[@ColeTalksHockey67]

I remember waking up that morning and see the trade. I was so happy at the time.

[@robertmunnich742]

One of the worst trades in Flames history. Daryl Sutter was a terrible GM.

[@peterroman8250]

The whole thing with Sutter was such a shame because he was a great coach but a mediocre GM. As a Flames fan it always felt like he was building a team for himself to coach, but not for his actual coach that didn’t know how to get the best out of the roster

[@BasePuma4007]

Hall of fame coach, horrible GM.

[@nancydhaliwal7043]

Hey Steve, can you do the Martin Havlat to Chicago trade? It's pretty interesting and goes pretty deep

[@geraldjohnson7435]

I love how he has the sedins jerseys framed

[@samuellarsson101]

Phaneuf kinda screw Ottawa going into the expansion draft as he had an NMC, therefore obligated to protect him, which lead to Marc Methot be exposed. Marc Methot aka Erik Karlsson's defence partner.

[@TheHenryDuong]

And it was downhill from there ... literally lol

[@jerryjanik480]

I'm not a Toronto Maple Leafs fan I'm a Sabres fan but I'm a huge Brian Burke fan and I'm a huge Steve dangle fan huge fan of these trade trees and your podcast and I'm raining Brian Burke book right now so your book was really good Steve so and entertaining

[@GamingRaptor16]

Can you do the Jason Arnott for Bill Guerin trade tree, it actually had a lot of impact on quite a few teams actually

[@mp40submachinegun81]

I have one of eemeli rasanen's sticks, kingston frontenacs sell players used sticks and this thing is massive. Its cut to like 6'5 and is a 115 flex.

[@DustyAllStar9]

this deserves more views

[@rustyclutch8632]

Wife bought tickets to one game that year, amd it was Dions debut. Best Leaf game I've been too. Was so pumped, aside from the hits and fight, I was impressed with how well he got pucks through traffic and to the net. Honestly, really bummed it ended so poorly. But he gave us identity for a while.

[@Fiedman]

One I would love to see you do is the 1992 trade the brought Doug Gilmour to the Toronto Maple Leafs from the Calgary Flames

[@TheDjsparrow]

Just found this series, please do a tree for when the Hawks sent Chelios to Detroit

[@tmoore4075]

I remember the 2015 trade deadline where Dion was almost traded to Detroit but TO wouldn't retain salary. So very happy, as the Wings were very close to rebuilding, that it didn't happen.

[@ex1st497]

Wow I love hockey and I follow the whole league and every team cuz I’m just a stats and names guy like that. But I never knew Stajan had a 1000 game career. That’s awesome!

[@barryluft4451]

Yeah... not bad for a second round pick. As a flames fan, i love the guy.

[@jackboag6028]

(Leafs fan here) - trade tree for the trades that sent Dany Heatley in and out of Ottawa?

[@rtql8d]

Dion certainly was a beast back in the Calgary days. People forget he was a runner-up for the Norris (to Lidstrom of course). I still remember his hit on Kopitar, I wonder if they brought it up when he was traded to LA?

[@filipnassen9076]

I think it’s fun to hear what Burke has to say about the trade.

[@Schneebauer.]

fun fact: keith aulie and matt stajan both played together in munich/DEL :)

[@strider7557]

Hey Steve, have you thought about doing a reaction/commentary of UrinatingTree’s vid on the Leafs cup drought?

[@SabEric39]

you might have already done this, because the trade tree interviews with Burke were likely done in 1 sitting, but seeing the jerseys in Burke's background, what happened to the flurry of picks that went flying in 1999 that wound up getting both Sedin twins in Vancouver?

[@reidgratz7783]

I'm a Flames fan who absolutely loves Matt Stajan. Class act.

[@nicholasbozec2828]

Keep doing an amazing job, would love to see Ron Francis or Phil Espositotrade tree someday

[@vampirefroggie]

So interesting to hear that about Jamal Mayers (sorry, Blackhawks state of mind here lol), makes me wonder if his views changed between when he was on the Leafs and eventually making it to the Blackhawks, since he did excellent with the Blackhawks and won a cup and is now a beloved broadcaster for the games.

[@kylef4357]

I'm sure jamal was fine. The problem was Ron Wilson was an absolutely terrible coach

[@philiptyka1040]

Rick Nash Trade Tree I will comment until it is done

[@MafiaGuido]

I like the way you think

[@nouh3053]

Ive been using a Bauer 1S stick off sideline swap with Cody Donaghey's name on it. For some reason it has value to me now

[@phreak811]

Since you work with Burke how about a breakdown of the Sedin deal? You know where he moved up to select the twin and how that worked out for the Canucks.

[@kpmanschannel]

More trade trees!! More!!

[@mikestan1801]

You really ought to do the Bure trade (Van-Fla) Jovanoski, Luongo, Markstrom are all in there!

[@nicks9192]

Please do the Brent Burns from MIN->SJS trade tree. That tree gets bigger almost every day it’s crazy

[@OttawaRocks]

Phaneuf was the ultimate professional despite the daily media craziness he faced in Toronto. I felt he was best suited in Ottawa on the #2 pairing and thus avoiding the main spotlight (which Karlsson took away from him) and had a good run with the Sens during their 2017 playoff run. That OT goal he scored against Boston in game 2 was memorable.

[@brendanroe8604]

Big up Steve

[@chubsbunny2780]

We need some trade trees every hour

[@TimoTalola]

He said Matti Hagman lol

[@JackieDaytona420]

I'm a simple man. I see Burkie; I like the video.

[@googloodo]

The next one was the Giguere trade of course, who could forget that day!

[@mikeready216]

Not much of a Burke fan >> but i love your listening to you Steve >> Keep up the good work happy Daddy !!

[@FloydLouisCifer]

I’d love to know who Anaheim was going to offer for Phaneuf.

[@liamthompson-stroud1569]

Lets Go Trade Tree with Burke

[@williamhock5603]

Dion Phaneuf, he was a stud in Ottawa... him in Ottawa was the only good seasons we had of Cody Ceci and he played great in the playoffs.. he was kind of a Chris Phillips kinda player with a great shot.. I liked him much more as a senator and its too bad we couldn't get to the SCF in 2017, because I think Ottawa wins the cup against Nashville.. it would have been close and such a fun series!

[@OttawaRocks]

Agree. I felt both Ottawa and Pittsburgh matched up well against the Preds which ultimately Pittsburgh proved when they despatched Nashville fairly easily.

[@ex1st497]

Steve Dangle is what’s keeping me sane in quarantine

[@chaosof99]

Can we get the Forsberg trade tree from the Flyers to the Predators?

[@theunknownguy5775]

I love these trees. I want many more to be done.

[@keithkayan]

I am waiting for you to talk about the JS Gigeuire trade

[@gregmarkiewicz601]

You did a Ron Francis trade tree for Carolina trading him to Toronto, you MUST do a Ron Francis trade tree for his trade to Pittsburgh from Hartford

[@SerasXHarkonnen]

Can you do the Craig Rivet trade tree?

[@oliverkristiansen350]

Fun fact rasanen, greening and donaghey have all played in the danish league

[@trockgaming55]

This trade haunts me to this day. As a Flames fan.

[@MichaelBrown-pq7li]

Love the trade trees Dangle! I enjoy your content so much. I hope you are never brought into a studio and ruined

[@ChrisMolyneaux93]

Did he mention that he drafted the Sedins? I don't think he's made that clear enough to everyone.

[@CMFT_69]

You guys should do the Patrick Roy trade tree

[@zlinedavid]

That’s actually part of the Lindros trade tree

[@kylemartineau8269]

As a sens fan I liked we got rid of Greening and Cowen at least, wasn't happy about losing the 2nd or getting Phaneuf but like Steve said, he did end up playing decent for Ottawa in 2017

[@Zenith626]

Most people hate Dion Phaneuf but I liked him. People said he didn't score but he was a Defenceman with nobody to play with. For what he was given and his role I think he did really well and if we got another 25 year old Dion Phaneuf with the current leafs I think he would be absolutely great

[@rewing84]

we need more trade trees with bb

[@LAKingssince]

Fratten to LA as well

[@scoldingwhisper]

i think this is one trade that the flames should still be benefiting from but they pretty much got a 3rd line center for a top d man

[@4lifeFanHabs]

Pretty good. But you forgot to mention that Phaneuf was traded to LA with the senators retaining his salary but the kings ended up buying him out after 2019

[@teagankrumin1295]

Do the Shea Weber and P.K Subban trade please

[@feedthesnake3394]

i like how brian burke works there now, but is usually getting interviewed.

[@samuellarsson101]

Fun fact: Fredrik Sjöstrom is now then GM of Frölunda

[@guitarmemoir]

Phaneuf sustained a serious hip injury in CGY and unfortunately played before it was 100%. The hip was reinjured in a playoff game against Chicago and he was never the same.

[@lolxditsadam]

Brian Burke with the undone tie...some things don't change even in quarantine

[@omegacbo]

I liked michalek for the leafs was always perplexed why they shafted him so hard.

[@thanhcollie360]

The Leafs needed more left-handed defensive depth. If they could do that, Phaneuf would have thrived.

[@alexgiglio899]

Marian Gaborik trade tree

[@dgb921]

I think you are secretly a flyers fan

[@dalemurray1787]

The cliff hanger

[@Krokodilius]

damn, i loved hagman. should've asked burkey if that tavares-for-schenn thing was real.

[@Lott.Z]

Now Brian is president of hockey operations in the 'burgh

[@TheTysonson3]

Lets get a trade tree about how the Preds signing and trading David Gosselin led to them acquiring Luke Kunin!

[@edgymcedgelord5297]

Please steve, do at one point Teemu selanne trade from Winnipeg to Anaheim to Sharks

[@SmokelessGamingSmokelessTracks]

Good one likes the burk parts

[@FistyMcStabb]

Love the trade tree videos! Hate the leafs!