Spotify Just Exposed Themselves BADLY

[@MUFFINWRATH]

The irony of Spotify acknowledging artifical streaming and trying to ban innocent artists rather than swap to an artist-centric streaming issue which would both pay indie artists more fairly and remove the financial incentive from artifical streaming speaks volumes about the company.

[@tassamusiikkia]

It does. This also speaks volumes about the way to come. It seems to me that many independent artists do not enjoy the situation with Spotify, yet they keep using it, effectively coaxing their fans to use it as well. This is kind of like... I don't know, bad analogy but voting for the dictator and getting all your friends to vote for them too. I'm nobody at all, 30-40 monthly listeners on Spotify, and I'm in the process of removing everything from there. It's not like I'll miss a paycheck by doing that, lol. That's either 30-40 monthly listeners less for me or 30-40 migrants to Tidal. Worth it.

[@tracewidth]

Exactly this. Avoiding Spotify like the plague as a listener and a musician is just about the only effective thing any of us can do.

[@countdrocula8852]

From a business perspective, would you rather pay to open and operate a department to combat false streams, or earn money by fining the victims. Spotify was never here for the artists. Just a way to monetize Pirate Bay.

[@Nuke_Skywalker]

yay capitalism

[@bjorn0helander]

@@Nuke_Skywalker It's not even capitalism - it is corporatism. In a capitalist system the customer experience will be a priority, and this would not happen.

[@zorankp]

Serious question. What is to stop a 3rd party buying bot streams for another artists songs? Like what if that 3rd party was a label? This new rule from Spotify looks likely to be abused. You would have the equivalent of 'swatting' another artists music..Taking down a competitors entire catalog.

[@hftl412]

Nothing. It happens. No one did it to these youtubers tho, they're just trying to live up to the expectation that audio youtubers *need* to be successful artists and that's bunk.

[@Juliano_DJOL]

Don't give them ideas!

[@Juliano_DJOL]

As far as the record labels doing it, they r allowed to, so shldnt be an issue...haha

[@zorankp]

@@Juliano_DJOL Yeah mate, I thought about posting that for a while before I did it. But I'm an artist too and hate this situation with Spotify.

[@Maplefoxx-vl2ew]

that's actually what is happening. They are fixing numbers for Universal

[@titovalasques]

I’m not using Spotify anymore. F*ck em’!

[@DragDealer]

If you haven’t realized I been told that Spotify is a criminal corporation and launders money for sure! 😅 You buy food and clothing online. Why not just buy your music from the artist website and play it on your music player and phone. All this bs of having 10 million songs in your pocket all the times is insane and the main cause of not owning anything at the end you are renting stuff! Bring back cds and banckrup streaming

[@GizzyDillespee]

Because people seem to prefer to pay 10 bucks a month to a tech company for the convenience to "legally pirate" any music they want as much as they want, rather than paying 10 bucks for a single album to own it.

[@DJDiskmachine]

Haha yeah bring back the walled gardens of the nineties and beyond that was a lot better

[@marsoblivi0n945]

Exactly I own thousands of albums. Just by a DAP and back all your albums up on hard drive and put them on the dap. They’re far superior than apple iPods and have amazing amps in and digital to analog converters in them. Even the cheaper options.

[@DJDiskmachine]

@@marsoblivi0n945 a Digital to Analog Perverter?

[@DJDiskmachine]

@@marsoblivi0n945 a Digital to Analog Perverter?

[@carlosp.1846]

First culprit is us artist for putting our music on Spotify in first place.

[@FRANKMUSIKOFFICIAL]

I stopped using Tunecore the moment they kept rejecting my artworks and saying my fades were too long. So insane.

[@Bthelick]

Ditto in the UK are similar, way too fastidious over fades 😂

[@justin6point7]

I don't use streaming platforms other than Soundcloud yet, but doubt I could get approval for hiding a track at the end of an album after 10 minutes of silence 🤣 That sucks TuneCore rejected them though, I try to make long outros to crossfade into other songs for DJ's, and because I use to be guilty of lazily cold cutting the tails off abruptly.

[@Bthelick]

@@anthonydavis999 distrokid.

[@Uuuuyyyyuuu]

Routenote

[@Necropheliac]

This reminds me of a time when I was a 10 year old, some grown man at a baseball game came up to me and threatened to bash my head in because I was chanting “hey batter” (I suppose it was his kid at bat). When my dad confronted him about threatening a child, the man said to my father: “oh sorry, I didn’t know it was *your* kid”. That’s essentially what’s happening here. Money is flowing into independent hands and so they are strong arming that money on behalf of the big labels because Spotify is in bed with the big labels. When they did it to someone who had the clout to confront them about it, they weaseled away so as not to alert the press. Benn is right, if this was a lesser known artist, they would have bashed his head in for having the gall to compete for listeners. Spotify needs to get raked over the coals for what they’re doing. It’s not okay regardless of who they’re doing it to.

[@gaymanisfree]

Except Benn botted his streams so

[@CrisPearson]

Good analogy. Humans aren’t the only ones who do this either

[@michaelpaul3481]

@@gaymanisfreewhat makes you say that? I’m just asking because what you are saying doesn’t seem to be the general consensus

[@ameddayr]

@@gaymanisfree get your hurt fanboi butt outta here

[@inperfectsequence7840]

Yes, the stores in New York in 2002 wouldn't let me buy Beastie Boys and RATM albums but that same year I traveled to London and bought them anyway. It was the year where the most banned albums were sold. The Grammys that year were the worst and most corrupt, due to records sold and songs played in the mainstream of the United States and the rest of the world. In 2024, even the business of banned songs and albums is a business for the police and the government, because censorship is also a business, never play a censored song in Central Park, if you don't want to be arrested. A month ago, I saw how a homeless man addicted to fentanyl was arrested for playing prohibited music that was broadcast on a commercial radio... not even the homeless man was arrested for drug use and possession. Censorship is also a multi-billion dollar business in the United States. But Beatport, Tik-Tok and KZbin also commit corruption with multinational labels, to make money with the most viral artists and banned songs, they demand certain conditions and payments from you that they then recover themselves. Influence peddling is a common practice on the internet, but in real life it is much harsher and more blatant. Everyone wants money, everyone is corrupt.

[@happyshadow]

"Hey let's ban this guy who's vocal about how bad Spotify who has a large following of interested followers, that'll stop him talking about Spotify"....

[@CaptHiltz]

I think Spotify is under orders from the major labels to get rid of the indie artists and just artists in general they don't control. It started with the 1,000 stream threshold and will go from there. The 3 major labels aren't competing against each other per say but rather against unsigned indie artists and artist signed to small independent labels. They hold us in contempt feeling we are inferior. One of the big shots at Sony has said that. My question is have the labels taken a good hard look at Spotify's Top 10's? Rick Beato has done this and routinely concludes that on average seven of the tracks don't even qualify as an actual song. They are usually two note or chord vamps over a trap or samba beat with bland insipid lyrics. These songs are coming from UMG, Sony and Warner including their subsidiaries. They aren't good in other words.

[@danderson8463]

"Per say"... if you wonder how they could hold you in contempt or think you are inferior start there.

[@mrblobifier]

I think it’s hard to say. Sure music from big labels is gonna get more push but and at the same time what you’re referring to is mass appeal content that’s easy to get on the charts and is probably going to get pulled off them a couple weeks after when it’s forgotten. And then of course, there’s subjectivity too, a lot of people like simple breezy vamps. But yeah this whole thing is such a big gray area considering we don’t have insider info on what’s going on

[@maykstuff]

@@danderson8463if you feel the need to correct someone’s spelling, for the love of Femto, please use correct punctuation. Pauses are important.

[@DJDiskmachine]

Nah just standard enshittification.

[@StanleyKubick1]

Spotify doesn't take orders from major labels. That's just dumb

[@DavidMorley]

Streaming has been the biggest scam in the music business and having been in it for 40 years, I've seen a lot. It's ruined everything for the majority of artists. And while I am at it, WTF Moog...

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Yes but if You dont use it then basically musically You dont exist.

[@needsLITHIUM]

There are also botted playlists, some of which Spotify themselves create. How is it an artist's fault that spotify's algorithm added them to a playlist which was then botted after the fact? How is it a musician's job, or even within their ability, to police such things? I mean, if they take themselves off the botted playlist spotify's algo put them on, what's to say the algo will not just put them back on. Users can create playlists, which may get botted. What will happen when a major artist suffers something like this?

[@camblackofficial]

It's interesting that no Main Stream artists has had there music removed. I guess they just pay the fines where distrokid and tunecore do not?

[@madden1247]

you answered your own question, they're major artists and typically backed by a label whether explicitly stated or not which also means they're in spotify's pocket indirectly

[@WarmWatermelon]

The labels of the artist's would take care of that. Main stream artists aren't using distrokid and tunecore to release music.

[@myousickoflife]

Kinda funny situation because I realized all those huge artist back in the day could easily buy enough records to make any album they released go platinum. Not to say they did, or the record companies, but its possible as it is one of the most dishonest businesses you can get involved in.

[@DJDiskmachine]

Plenty of mainstream artists have had content removed from Spotify, it's been a big topic lately in the Swedish news. Look up Fröken Snusk

[@prezsha]

@@myousickoflife I worked in the music industry for major labels for many years. That very technique you speak of was employed countless times. The concept of “payola” had many, many tentacles.

[@JayfkProductions876]

Spotify out here behaving like they're Unison Audio 😂 😂 😂

[@ivyx1786]

they probably are

[@djpedrocarrilho]

Best comment 😂

[@kassemir]

It is extremely suspicious and concerning that Benn mentioned "extensive legal resources" in his tweet. I definitely feel like Benn is the type of person who would go for something like that out of spite, and I totally get it, it's a good thing that he did. It's just. If that is what it takes when something like this happens, i.e. serious legal threats, well, then smaller artists with less resources are pretty much just fucked if something like this happens. Not good, not good at all.

[@aaronhedgesmusic]

Spite? If they broke the law they broke the law. That’s why we have contracts. This is a bit Part of his livelihood. I would Go the other way around and say you would be stupid to not consult a lawyer about it

[@1337murk]

Small artists only need to be member of musicians union and then they will have access to big legal budget

[@mrnelsonius5631]

10 years ago when a signed a major record deal, one of the very first things we were told by their publicist was “do not criticize streaming or ANY of the streaming services publicly. Ever”. We knew what was being implied. The whole time I worked in that world I can’t think of a single other thing emphasized that firmly.

[@Rgdonaire_07]

My music was removed from Spotify also during the weekend without any explanation. Cd baby ignores us. It seems Spotify did a cleanup… very annoying!

[@reiniervandenbos2158]

It’s completely ridiculous. There is zero accountability from these tech services. Pretending they support indie artists… our album is taken offline since last Friday from Spotify, but CD Baby is indeed giving us the silent treatment. I contacted Spotify after CD Baby remained silent to ask if there’s a fallback in case the distributor doesn’t respond… *cricket sounds*. CD Baby is aware of our situation, they were informed via Trustpilot - i wrote a review yesterday to get their attention and within a couple of hours I received a notification from Trustpilot that CD Baby required more information - yeah they’re just trying to take that 1 star review down. Our support ticket is labeled as ‘open’ aka not being processed since last Friday. CD Baby also viewed our band’s instagram story where we (politely) outed them and asked them to bring back our album. Our artist stats aren’t showing anything unusual. We had around 350k streams for our album, which was released in 2021.

[@xantux]

"Reason Objekt looks better than Atom for a similar price" - NO! Objekt is 100$ for Objekt + 500$ for Reason. So 600$ for a synth 😩

[@teoswaldri9867]

Maaan what a pain, I really wanted to try it but who wants to pay for a daw they dont want to use. I can't figure it out why they dont just make vsts like everyone else

[@raykay72]

Any and every artist should simply begin to boycott Spotify. We only have to choose one of the streaming companies (Spotify), and not post our tunes there, take off our existing music from there and bring focus to this topic, as well as guide people towards something like Bandcamp…any thoughts?

[@chinmeysway]

yes bandcamp etc and agreed ppl can just leave spotify lol

[@crnkmnky]

wtf are these comments? it's turning into Weaver Beats *2* in here… "hate, hate, hate-hate, hate." I've never understood the Benn hatred. 🤷🏿‍♀️

[@crnkmnky]

​@@MiamiVisor Umm, can you try typing that in regular English instead of the same vague memes? 🤔 Did Benn say something on Twitter during the lockdowns? Why is it suddenly relevant to _this?_

[@apoplexiamusic]

i think it stems from jealously that someone who makes generally non mainstream music can have so much success as an independent artist.

[@crnkmnky]

@@apoplexiamusic Something about Benn's videos rubs many people the wrong way. I don't see it… Apparently they're a rabid bunch, instantly liking each other's comments. A flashmob against the flashbulb, if you will. Imagine celebrating corporate sabotage of independent musicians. 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@apoplexiamusic]

@@crnkmnky they probably think they’re the smartest people around too… could so many people really suffer from Dunning Kruger syndrome?

[@MiamiVisor]

@@apoplexiamusic Benn promoted a crime against humanity, he's a failure as a human being.

[@hiddentechno8266]

Strange. I also had an email saying that Spotify had removed one of my tracks due to some violation or whatever and I don't even recall putting any of my tracks on Spotify....

[@gavinmillar]

There's no such thing as a "fraudulent stream." If your song is played on Spotify, they have to pay you. It doesn't matter if it was a human listening once or a robot listening a million times. It was played by a user. As far as I'm concerned, not paying for that is fraud on Spotify's part.

[@KristianWontroba]

Streaming companies are just begging for government regulation and/or lawsuits.

[@chrishof3917]

My 10 dollars (or something), as a listener, which I pay per month should go EXACTLY to the tracks and artists I EXACTLY LISTENED TOO! THAT would be FAIR

[@4mb127]

Corporations will do whatever they can to achieve their goals, including very vindictive and destructive means. If it's not stopped, they will just keep doing it.

[@NUKELEDGE]

Weaver whats up with your comment section on this video

[@crnkmnky]

ikr

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

As an independent artist that gets a good chunk of my income off of Spotify streaming (500k monthly listeners), this is fucking TERRIFYING. Literally all the blood sweat and tears spent building up a following and business on Spotify can just be eroded overnight. Scary times.

[@chinmeysway]

probably have some beck up then aye ?

[@ChadPhillipsMusic]

Yep. Spotify, Apple Music, et al (along with their digital distribution partners) is an epic trash heap...a raging cosmic dumpster fire, a glorified marketing platform that devalues music. PERIOD. They're exploitive and immoral. We all know this. Ironically, the reason it continues is the same reason it'll NEVER change. Artists keep on using the them. Until we collectively say, NO, pull our catalogues, and refuse to use platforms that don't value our art, we can all expect more of the same abuse and worse. When you lay down with trash, inevitably, you end up smelling like garbage. That's the sad truth about these platforms. Screw Spotify.

[@markquavertune2003]

Yes ATOM is not the first physical modelling synth .But I have found it to be the most easy to use and especially for the price point .It could have some more functionality but I have found it to be the most straitforward to use .

[@sandrasouls]

Sounds cool!

[@bridgesbeats9950]

i bet its easy for bad actors to bot a musician they dont like into oblivion

[@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF]

Yeah, unless the artist target is too big, this would certainly work. It is the music streaming version of swatting someone.

[@vvert1506]

People take down artist's songs on soundcloud en masse with a single complaint. I assume spotify isn't too big of a step (with a little botnet).

[@RobPerreault]

bro... ya hit the nail on the head in a lot of ways... there are so many artists getting fucked by Spotify and that's why I never made an artist account and even bothered... its garbage... would rather make my money on merch, ticket sales, patreon/donation platforms etc... the "new music" industry is not new at all. It's just corporate trash piled on top of online trash lmfao.

[@theblowupdollsmusic]

Couldn't somebody just pay a bot farm to take down any artist they don't like then? Like you could use streaming bot farms as a weapon against competing artists if this is the case.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Yes that definitely happens, and would not be surprised if Benn has peed off a few people in his time.

[@mucy2807]

Bye bye Spotify 😊 I smell a MASSiVe lawsuit…

[@VentureNW]

Looks like a lawsuit against Spotify. Who wants bets on Spotify going down this year? The big players in the music industry are sinking their own industry.

[@AnDrew-oh5uq]

Wow that whole Arcade advertisement I was forced to watch before this was so bad> Bunch of influencers saying the same thing with a gun to there hewad

[@ProbablyLying]

I fuckin hate Spotify. I’m only subscribing because my mom made a playlist for me and I want high quality audio.

[@suitandtieguy]

It's almost like maybe the time to throw a fit about these services would have been when Tim Pool was deleted from Bandcamp with no explanation, or even when it happened to Cyber(mid century German) if you think you actually have coherent liberal values.

[@camgillette7448]

Thanks for the info. Got a similar release deleted for not really any reason that I can understand

[@deamonghod]

Tunecore has also been asking me for money for artist I already had in my roster and now they are asking me to. Pay again... Tunecore is really fucking up my releases and our music.. They are doing something 🤔🤔🤔

[@CrisPearson]

Mafiacore? End up like the fishes?

[@deamonghod]

@@CrisPearson well said!!

[@VisiV]

That dude is an awesome straight-shooter with a very good sense of humor and a handsome-ass face that says he’s already been THROUGH IT and that is what I know. Serves them right getting caught messing with his biz.

[@crnkmnky]

As cheesy as that sounds, I basically feel the same. 😅

[@Juliano_DJOL]

I was worried that another artist music/songs were going to get linked to my account (which happens alot) then they do the bot thing and un turn my account gets banned or my music gets taken down... I've already had lotz of problems w distro and tbh it has almost completely killed my motivation to try and release music thru a distro. I won't even say what company I use now for fear of them reading this and taking my music down for talking ish... Pretty sad IMO

[@gaymanisfree]

If you’re worried it’s because you’ve botted your shit before

[@JRay517]

this is why ive yet to use any of these distribution services

[@stas80800]

"Don't understand why his face is blurred" Because in Europe you are allowed to maintain your privacy. Even if you're criminal. I know, for an american it's hard to grasp.

[@overflowbeats6965]

Here’s your cookie

[@stas80800]

@@overflowbeats6965 don't be mad my American friend. It's gonna be alright.

[@michail_777]

Atoms by babyaud can be downloaded and tried for free. I like this synthesizer, but I need to figure it out. But=at the moment I'm not going to buy it.

[@Bthelick]

I have similar numbers and data to him, and my audience is purely organic. I'll keep you posted. I did get a similar investigation many years ago because they couldn't understand why an independent artist had my numbers, we proved it by showing them how the plays have simply come from their own algorithmic playlists!

[@N8oRMusic]

Keep it greasy so it, goes down easy - Zappa.

[@donnydarko7624]

I think an ipad with an audio interface, and a midi controller is a way better choice for anyone to buy than an MPC

[@averageenthusiast7616]

Atoms doesn’t even sound like physical modeling at all

[@livertiny]

We need socialized streaming, by and for the people.

[@johnisrael5183]

Thats exactly what we need.....

[@i-never-look-at-replies-lol]

tell me you spend too much time on the reddit without telling me you spend too much time on reddit lmao

[@crnkmnky]

What does it mean? How would it work?

[@bontempo1271]

I. want. to. get. paid. for. spending. over a decade. to master a craft. that people love.

[@livertiny]

@@i-never-look-at-replies-lol lol actually never. If it was anyone other than me, you'd probably be on the money tho lol

[@chillwalker]

Benna criticism of Spotify and the music industry, in general, was so on point and brave, that I asked him if I could share this with my students (I am teaching Mediadesign as a sidehustle at uni in cologne, Germany). Aaand we are back to fascism! yeay..!

[@ZackAngelMusic]

Damn, 100 mil Thats a house or two in the right area!

[@futuredog7877]

We’ve had random bot pumps on our account and this worries us now

[@DreamingWhileAwakeMusic]

love the Ron Carter you have playing

[@GG-zv9ku]

karma finally...

[@JayTheLane]

I was one of the people who mentioned the grease. Once greasy always greasy 😅

[@Rustik1722]

Ben has had one too many "drama" "outrage" "victim" episodes. I thought he quit KZbin?

[@user-th6rh8zp3t]

he just loves attention

[@apoplexiamusic]

It think you would be pretty pissed off too if all your music was unjustly removed from everywhere people listen to music

[@MiamiVisor]

@@apoplexiamusic Anyone who promoted experimental jabs on their platform has revealed their real purpose on social media.

[@N1h1L3]

​@@MiamiVisorsource link?

[@MiamiVisor]

@@N1h1L3 Go straight to the source, ask Ben if he promoted Fauci sauce. He not only did that, he shamed anyone who used critical thinking and questioned him.

[@Juliano_DJOL]

Your channel has def grown on me lol if nothing else the news saves me from reading a bunch of spam/filler emails n news lol but the comedy n Humility r refreshing 😶‍🌫️👍

[@petrusberggren3886]

Maby i missed something... but in sweden everything is back on spotify.

[@qfella]

This is what happens when you only pay musicians in pennies and then turn around and show ya ass about it. Sorry for the receptionist and security guard. The CEO should've been the one. Spotify aint got no business showing ass with a move like that. Umm sorry.

[@djJustJay]

Maybe botting is the new swatting. The guy seemed to upset a whole youtube community. Not sure. Crazy tho.

[@Drfresh1402]

That Baby audio synth is truly uninspiring.

[@matrix12x]

Spotify is the devil

[@autecheee]

….in the details

[@iandaley1695]

This just happened to me! United Masters are huge Cons! Unfortunately i dont have the fanbase nor funds to make a big enough riff.

[@SirFreak]

Same story here, but using Amuse.

[@willis8907]

TuneCore's marketing department can't have enjoyed this past week 😂

[@rhn4710]

Spotify removing music because someone said something bad about their platform is pretty much tinfoil hat material. Even if execs or employees at Sporify are not happy they still get a chunk of money out of every stream. Money matters much more than anything else.

[@Kkidzz]

I demo'd ATOM...it's raw tone is lifeless as F'.

[@blkbird]

Also all of it sounds like it was placed in a wooden box first. They hide it with lush reverbs, but it’s terrible. And I really liked it for the first 5 minutes, until I realized it.

[@Kkidzz]

@@blkbird Agreed. The first thing I do testing any VST Synth is to turn off ALL effects…. then I’ll start with a single OSC and slowly open the filter: no modulations. uHe and GForce have set the bar sooo high. 😉

[@Nenko_Music]

check out Objekt from the Reason rack; how BA dares to say they were first at this: and the sound engine in their plugin sounds not as great as the one of Objekt

[@marsoblivi0n945]

Exactly I own thousands of albums. Just by a DAP and back all your albums up on hard drive and put them on the dap. They’re far superior than apple iPods and have amazing amps in and digital to analog converters in them. Even the cheaper options.

[@hansblooeyribbon4207]

Thank you for spelling "Loser" correctly.

[@lukasgruber1280]

Glad to hear I am not the only one who feels like the guy from Baby Audio has some similarity with one of Disnye's Beagle Boys

[@djyellaUN]

It's interesting that all backend Spotify streaming service providers recently purged the majority of their services. Services that catered to record labels and services that catered to smaller indie artists. All gone just recently. These services actually got you paid. Spotify has to be in on the game.

[@Respected_Gentleman]

Wow, I'm from the UK and I've listened to Benn's music since 2006. I think Pale Blue Dot is a work of genius. Soundtrack to a Vacant Life even more so, and I respect his attitude to so-called music piracy. He included a HTML file on the 2009 Louisiana Mourning album that suggested donations but if you do copy it that you just include the HTML file so others may have the choice to donate if they liked what they heard (which I duly did). The guy has quite an international following and his music was suggested to me by other music fans on old social media. Spotify and Tunecore (never heard of that until now) need to act their age and respect the mans talent and history.

[@mygoogle1525]

The problem with object is that ypu need reason, $499

[@Pullover420]

The one world gov is coming together nicely

[@i_jetlag]

The security beeing a victim reminded me of "The Beekeeper" movie.

[@AntiPattern123]

Topic: PMS Compare it with Sakura for FL Studio. That is a beast like Objekt or Friktion. Compare it with Kaivo from Madrona Labs.

[@socialbacon7552]

feels like time for independents to come together start our own platform and take what is rightfully ours

[@dodgingrain3695]

The issue is a lot of people dislike Ben Jordon.

[@apoplexiamusic]

Well they’re wrong

[@joshk2181]

Nah he sucks @@apoplexiamusic

[@mb2776]

@@apoplexiamusic you know nothing

[@apoplexiamusic]

@@mb2776 😂

[@mb2776]

@@apoplexiamusic yeah. Going into a discord of a whole another company going crazy there. Posting homophobic stuff. Man such a nice guy. As I said, you know nothing.

[@danhansson666]

Spotify is trying to get rid of indie artists because they have contracts with the record labels, and they want to get all streams to them

[@-______-______-]

They _are_ the record labels. Spotify has always been the big 3 record labels. It's top level criminal enterprise.

[@rmselector]

Tune core sucks! So many main stream artists and labels use bots

[@Petch85]

I do not get it... Way do they pool all subscriptions, it seems that if they just stopped pooling subscriptions Spotify would solve most of there problems.

[@JA809_]

Tunecore And Distro Kid are the LAST SCAM ! in the MUSIC INDUSTRY , SONGTRUST TO!

[@vimfuego8827]

Love the presentation style !!

[@daciandraco6462]

"It's a private company, bro, what are you complaining for?"

[@protopottygames2648]

My guess is they took his stuff down because he probably forgot to shave his baby smooth chest that day. Still pretty uncool of them, but hey..🤷‍♂

[@rmselector]

Weaver, you’re the best. Watched this in the morning, thank you 😂😂

[@dreamstaticsounds]

"the reasoning is kind of solid" much like what was in the cup that he threw at them...

[@jaddae7099]

Not in it for the streams, so I play it 100% straight in music and life really, but I've never had a single problem in the years I've been with tuneCore. They make money on streams; it behooves them to keep the music up, if they don't, it's not usually a tuneCore issue from what I can see

[@Karlhto]

you remind me of the dude from the camera conspiracies youtube channel. your topic is cool to talk about stuff as a producer

[@fatg_world4605]

We need to union and independent agencies to countdown all the streams On all platforms like KZbin and stuff so the people who are running the numbers cannot play the game they want and I think this would be the answer of this problem

[@sawssman965]

only available in red, huh? Why wont Akai think of the Crips!

[@crnkmnky]

😢

[@TwdlD]

To me it looks like Spotify is using some kind of AI algorithm to detect artificial streams and it has a very broad brush. There was a video of a guy who wears ski goggles, I can't think of his name at the moment, who had the same thing happen to him but he got the majority of the streams from Spotify's own playlists.

[@nathanielbrown8718]

logic pro has had a stock physical modeling synth since I was a kid and it blows that baby audio seahorse shit out of the water.

[@dubmaverick69]

since 2000 we told all these artist stop drinking the koolaid with digital platforms, because THERE IS NO RECOURSE. Vinyl cost is 3 times higher than before, cassette tapes cost more than ever before, and CDs are coming back, it is amazing how all these artist get sucker punched EVERY TIME. You guys are wasting your money supporting a pyramid scheme. Anyone knew who will come and rock the cage is gone get taken out by the majors just look at orchard music. It is time to shut it down completely, you dont need a platform, everyone has basically a cell phone that is as strong as a server. You can just connect with everyone the way you want, we have over 70 years of music history just go look back how every time the artist finds a way to shoot themselves in the foot.

[@overflowbeats6965]

Well damn, gg corporate overloads.

[@t3g3lst3n]

I got posted stuff on yt and facebook about what i found that was shady as back traced stats... guess what i got threats from 'some company's', so i actively removed my music self as had it, as will stop paying anyway now so f them and the major manure they came in, i don't care as don't even get enough from them to pay the fees after taxes. If someone random buys plays on my music, how could I even stop that ? Only way are to remove music ain't it… why don’t they simply remove the so called fake streams, and create a list of fakes streams, removed stuff streams before as numbers don’t add up in the end I noticed. Besides I get more from other platforms, x1000 more actually from one other then sp ever payed, so no loss for me to remove it and no more threats so only win win. Have a nice day.

[@wethegamers870]

This dude had to pay 31k USD equivalent for throwing shit, literal shit...

[@henninghoefer]

5:14 I'm pretty sure you did *not* "link it in the description"?

[@Weaverbeats]

You're right. I forgot I'm going to add it now!

[@XnazxulX]

Wait Jordan was the flashbulb? I used to listen to his stuff all the time.. if it’s the same dude.. didn’t he do IDM stuff

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Watch the whole video, yes Ben Jordan was Flashmob.

[@jeremybenson5782]

People need to go back to building their own thing. We have cloud now. 0.03 cents a gig for storage is unprecedented. Website, with a music forum, videos on server. Collect fans. Sort of like your own beat selling future producers kind of gig. And when you sell the ad space for 2 gs you get to keep it, lol.

[@volpir4672]

shock horror an artist that promotes cancel culture gets cancel cultured, moderna will sponsor him tho so no probs

[@gaymanisfree]

Hahahahahah