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Springfield Hellcat OSP: Removing the Slide Lugs and Mounting the Holosun 507K

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Jonathan Michael

Jonathan Michael

Күн бұрын

The Springfield Hellcat OSP has 4 lugs under the plate. The Holosun 507K does not fit natively. In order for the Holosun 507K to fit the side has to be modified. Specifically, the 2 rear lugs need to be milled flush and the 2 front lugs need to be reduced. Holosun is releasing an “upgraded” version of the 507K in September (likely due to the Trijicon lawsuit). As of the date of this video Holosun has not released a complete list of the changes only that they are “relocating the buttons” and that the “footprint will not be changing due to the fact that the 507K is waterproof.”
I’m not a milling expert, machinist, gunsmith, etc … just your typical “hands-on” type guy. I’m not opposed to paying for work when required (or feeling lazy), but do generally at least consider DIY. The gunsmith at my LGS told me he’d do the job for $50. I already own a Dremel and some bits, so there wasn’t any investment on my part, so I chose the DIY route. Start to finish it’s about a 20-30 min job. It took me a good hour because I forgot to retape the screw holes and therefore had to disassemble and clean.
Tools Used:
1. Dremel
2. Dremel bit #9903
3. Dremel bit #83702
4. Metal file
5. T 10x4 screwdriver
I ran the #9903 bit on speed 1; Dremel bit #83702 on speed 2.
I’m happy with the outcome, really like the 507K and Holosun’s in general. I have Holosun’s on some rifles and other pistols, so so standardizing as much as possible is important to me. This is why I didn’t go with another brand.

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@ColeDedhand
@ColeDedhand 3 жыл бұрын
After watching a bunch of reviews of the shield optic, the romeo zero, the hex wasp, the RMRcc, and the HS507k I see the clear winner is the HS507k. If I have to modify my gun to work with the best optic then so be it.
@wmurphy3416ify
@wmurphy3416ify 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video I thought I had to cut the screws down which was going to be a lot more tedious. The slide cut was quick and easy. Thanks!!!
@benparker2735
@benparker2735 2 жыл бұрын
For future viewers 28 thousandths on front lugs. Use a caliper cheap from harbor freight. Anti rust or ceracote shaved area. And please torque screws withlock tight blue.
@JesseWalker-ti2qp
@JesseWalker-ti2qp Ай бұрын
Is this taken off or what the height of them should be?
@selfdefensejujitsu-mizumar7221
@selfdefensejujitsu-mizumar7221 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! I’m going to have to do this to mine as well now for to reasons. 1. So I can see my sites better 2. So if the battery ever dies on me or Red dot brakes I’ll still have the fixed sites available.
@bearbrewer8517
@bearbrewer8517 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Been looking for one like this that shows how you mount it. You should post more 👊🏼
@Anthonyg909
@Anthonyg909 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I just knocked this job out with a dremel without a hitch. 👍
@we6871
@we6871 3 жыл бұрын
Corded or cordless? Which grinding bit did you use? How long to complete?
@Anthonyg909
@Anthonyg909 3 жыл бұрын
@@we6871 corded. I used the small stone bit.
@Anthonyg909
@Anthonyg909 3 жыл бұрын
@@we6871 I knocked it out in less than an hour. Set the slide in a vice and grinded slowly. The steel was pretty soft, and the dremel and grinding stone made short work of it. A hand file will take forever. The front lugs is the most time consuming, having to shave off a little at a time and test fitting several times to get it where I like it.
@Anthonyg909
@Anthonyg909 3 жыл бұрын
@@we6871 yikes. He probably made it more difficult than it needed to be. My local shop who cuts slides daily said it's a 15 min job for them on the mill, but need to charge their minimum $100. They told me what needed to be done and insisted I do it on my own. I will be sending them my slide for refinishing though.
@andrewcramer7214
@andrewcramer7214 4 жыл бұрын
This process will be the same for the new Glock 43x and 48 mos as well. If you include that in your title you may get more traffic. Thanks a ton for the video, haven't decided if I want to put a plate on or DIY mill my 43x mos but this helped a ton thank you!
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
Maximizing the co-witness was a hard requirement for me. A plate is obviously gonna force it to sit up higher, reducing that % of co-witness.
@joshuabruce9920
@joshuabruce9920 2 жыл бұрын
I just put a hellcat on layaway today. Had a 507k on it, hardly used for 469. Basically new. Someone made maybe 2 trips to the range with it. As I was looking at it I seen light under the dot and thought that's not right and I could see those locating lugs and figured that was the fix. Glad to know it's an easy fix. I don't want no damn plate lol to hell with that. Just another failure point and possibility to shift zero
@moechawki7251
@moechawki7251 4 ай бұрын
Did this to my HCP. Looks great 👍
@masterbuilder6375
@masterbuilder6375 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man! You did a damn good job EXCELLENT! I noticed a few others that mounted any optics on any hand gun use a little blue lock tight but whatever lol great damn job!!!🤩🤩🤩
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, MB. The screws included from Holosun already had some thread locker pre-applied. Otherwise, yes a *little* bit of blue Loctite is always a good idea.
@masterbuilder6375
@masterbuilder6375 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 Cool! Awesome job! Thank u
@Turbo6019
@Turbo6019 3 жыл бұрын
I had to cut the screws down on mine for some reason by 3 threads but the guide pins on min looks almost flat compared to original.
@62dobie
@62dobie 4 жыл бұрын
My local firearms shop milled mine for $20 in 10mins.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
For $20 I'd have handed it over as well. :-) I asked @ 3 local shops and was quoted between $60 and $100. All 3 said, "I've never done it before, but willing to try and figure it out."
@62dobie
@62dobie 3 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Michael, he had never done it before either. But he was confident in his CNC skills. It came out perfect. Just as if it had been done by Springfield. He did it while I waited.
@62dobie
@62dobie 3 жыл бұрын
@@we6871, no. Up here in Washington state.
@caseycouch12
@caseycouch12 3 жыл бұрын
@@62dobie did he do anything to prevent rust on the bare metal?
@62dobie
@62dobie 3 жыл бұрын
@@caseycouch12, yes. He used some rust coating. I forgot what brand.
@dcooper1994
@dcooper1994 3 жыл бұрын
CHPWS now makes an adapter plate for the 407k/507k if you don’t want to take a file to the slide.
@fazoodle7972
@fazoodle7972 Жыл бұрын
I wish you would've shown co witness. Since that was the point of this Dx
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 Жыл бұрын
photos.app.goo.gl/MgGqGSyMTQEC3UgaA
@jn3750
@jn3750 3 жыл бұрын
I'd wait for the new version that fits the hellcat without modifications.
@tyranitarxd2819
@tyranitarxd2819 3 жыл бұрын
there's a new version coming out?
@jn3750
@jn3750 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyranitarxd2819 They must; otherwise, swampfox, rsmc, springfield... will eat them alive. My guess is within 6 months the revised version will come out. Right now, you can get one from the above manufactures that drop right in without any mods.
@michaelmontanez2137
@michaelmontanez2137 3 жыл бұрын
@@jn3750 holosun is better then all those IMO
@captainamer71
@captainamer71 Жыл бұрын
And here it is a year later and holosun never did.
@ubreakitirepairit3569
@ubreakitirepairit3569 2 ай бұрын
It's interesting how people call this hacking up their slide as if they'll ever see those milled down lugs again. Once that optic is installed, it should never have any reason to be taken off.
@centermass4962
@centermass4962 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I own a hellcat just not the osp model. I do own the 365xl with remeo zero.
@truthtalker7774
@truthtalker7774 11 ай бұрын
Nice video. Well done. What is the real benefit of co witness? Doesn't it make the irons a distraction from the red dot?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 11 ай бұрын
It's not a distraction for me. I actually prefer it and the dot generally sits above the front sight. You can kill the dot; still practice with irons, and on the off-chance your dot fails, they're there for you. Personally the only thing I ever found distracting was a green dot, b/c my tritium irons glow green.
@Tools-at-work
@Tools-at-work 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the detail of the video. After mounting the optic are you able to use the iron sights
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. They cowitness nicely.
@brandongraf87
@brandongraf87 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was in the comments for
@t3webb
@t3webb Жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 did you ever have any problems with rust after doing this? Or have you taken the red dot off to ever see?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 Жыл бұрын
@@t3webb No rust. My Holosun glass cracked a year ago, so it's been off to confirm. I trail run with my Hellcat, so it does get some regular sweat.
@t3webb
@t3webb Жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 okay thanks for sharing that. That was my concern with doing this. Did you go back with Holosun or try something new? I want to have co witness for sure. Haven’t been impressed on what I have heard/read about hex wasp and SMSc. Any other suggestions?
@midiaz1319
@midiaz1319 2 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks for sharing.
@t3webb
@t3webb Жыл бұрын
And we still don’t have a direct mount from Holosun do we? I haven’t found one at least.
@TheJpo911
@TheJpo911 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike awesome vid!
@ysidroavila6454
@ysidroavila6454 Жыл бұрын
How's the cowitness working? Factory sights? Thanks for sharing
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 Жыл бұрын
photos.app.goo.gl/MgGqGSyMTQEC3UgaA
@stephenboldrey9973
@stephenboldrey9973 7 ай бұрын
If your putting the plate on under the optic why mill anything out . The plate correct’s everything . If you want the sight to cowitness. Better just get the replacement sights for the suppressor height sights . No hacking up your gun is required that way
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 7 ай бұрын
If you're using a plate you don't need to mill the lugs, nor should you. However, your optic will sit higher because of the plate. Therefore your factory irons will not cowitness. With the flush mount and the 507k I have roughly a lower 1/3 cowitness. So with a plate, you won't have backup irons or you'll be buying taller ones (NightFision is a great option).
@TheJpo911
@TheJpo911 4 жыл бұрын
Hows the rear sight? Can u still get a low cowitness with the rear sights?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
Co-witness is still good with the factory rear sight.
@subbiesalaki
@subbiesalaki 3 жыл бұрын
I just got 507K as well for my Hellcat. What do you think about drilling small hole into the Holosun red dot itself instead of altering the slide. Is that even possible? I know I can get CHPWS plate but I like the idea of better cowitness but w/o removing some metal.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
The 507k is waterproof, so for sure that would break the seal. I also don't know where anything "electrical" is located. Personally, I would not go that route.
@subbiesalaki
@subbiesalaki 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 Thank You for the reply! You are right.. I wish we knew the thickness of the Holosun base :) Running Swampfox Sentinel now on mine but I like Holosun better like on my full size. Thinking of changing it to 507k. Do you know if this 507k's adjustment is tactical click or freely turns w/o clicking?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
@@subbiesalaki It clicks. I looked pretty hard at Swampfox. They're from my home state of CO which made it hard, but like you, I have Holosun's on some other pistols and also some rifles. Standardizing on a brand won out along with the fact that the large circle-dot works better with my astigmatism vs. the single tiny dot.
@MrScott-yk4kr
@MrScott-yk4kr 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Swampfox and it covers the bottom 2/3 of the front sight. How much of the front sight shows through that cowitness notch in the Holosun?
@peterl358
@peterl358 Ай бұрын
if i decide to use a optic plate, can you use the iron sights that come stock on the slide or will it be too low?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 Ай бұрын
Without the plate I've got ~ lower 1/3 cowitness. With a plate I would *guess* you'll see the top of your front sight. Not sure about the rear sight.
@dans6476
@dans6476 6 ай бұрын
Does it co witness with the irons?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 6 ай бұрын
Yes. ~ Lower 1/3.
@dans6476
@dans6476 6 ай бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 Excellent, Thanks for the input. Buying a hellcat pro shortly
@galnadjar
@galnadjar 2 ай бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 do you mean u have 1/3 of the front exposed or 1/3 hidden
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 ай бұрын
@@galnadjar it means that you can see the iron sights through the lower 1/3 of the optic window.
@matthewblocher6315
@matthewblocher6315 11 ай бұрын
So I got the rear lugs flush, left the front ones alone because if I hold the optic on the slide, there is 0% light coming through. However, once I torque down the screws, there is the tiniest bit of light coming through - maybe the height of a piece of paper. If I back the screws out, the front is again perfectly flush. Is this gap anything to worry about?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 11 ай бұрын
I'm not sure about that one, but if I had to guess it's probably because you left the front lugs alone. Personally, I'd want it flush.
@chrispass101
@chrispass101 2 жыл бұрын
My POS CT 1500 finally died on my xds mod 2 osp. Just got my 507k yesterday, it is the same footprint as the hellcat so I should have no problem doing this right? And is the optic still holding strong... I had already planned to only take off as little as possible up front before seeing your video
@ele1017
@ele1017 7 ай бұрын
I would like to do this but I’m afraid of the possible rust raw metal exposed
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 7 ай бұрын
No rust for me after ~ 3 years. I also don't take the Hellcat on underwater missions. :-) If you're concerned there are plenty of products you could dab on when you're done (nail polish, Rustoleum, etc.)
@stevewendling8480
@stevewendling8480 Жыл бұрын
My shortest screws are too long. Do you know what length screw you used ? thanks
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 Жыл бұрын
My Holosun is old. It came with a long set and short set. They don't anymore. Best advice I can give is to put a bolt on your screws as a guide and then grind them down a few threads until you got the right length.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 Жыл бұрын
That said, I *think* M4 torx 8mm will do the trick.
@matthewblocher6315
@matthewblocher6315 11 ай бұрын
8.75 right, 10mm left, per calc Kinetics
@thegreatchancho
@thegreatchancho 3 жыл бұрын
Any advice on treating the metal after you grind it? I’ve heard that blueing still will allow rust and in a humid part of Texas, I really don’t want to deal with rust on my EDC weapon.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry man ... I'm not sure. However, since the optic completely covers it, it could be as simple as a little black Rustoleum dabbed on there with a QTip?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
@Jason Sinatra All blemishes are 100% covered up by the optic. If I chose to remove the optic the OSP plate would also cover them completely. Springfield professionals have already adapted the slide with the OSP model. I just undid 1% of their work to accommodate the 507K.
@YouLookinAtMe-Bro
@YouLookinAtMe-Bro Жыл бұрын
​@@jonmichael1974Ha! That's exactly what I did!
@MrScott-yk4kr
@MrScott-yk4kr 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Swampfox on mine but it cuts the front sight in half when you co witness. Doe this show the full front sight or does the housing split the front sight as well?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
I have the full front sight.
@brucecook502
@brucecook502 6 ай бұрын
This is an uneducated opinion here, I am for the first time here soon going to put an optic on one of my handguns and I have been doing lots of research on optics, optic plates, and all sorts of related stuff and my question is, instead of grinding those posts off the slide, couldn't it be possible to just drill holes deep enough on the underside of the optic itself so you could take advantage of all four mounting posts on the slide? Like I said, my suggestion is an uneducated opinion because I have never had an optic before, but I just thought it would make more sense to do the modification on your optic rather than your more expensive gun itself, or would it cause damage to the optic? I would have guess if the bottom of the optic is thick enough to have holes on the front, wouldn't it be thick enough to do the same on the back so you don't have to modify your slide?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 6 ай бұрын
I asked Holosun this question. Their response was two-fold: 1. It will break the waterproof seal. 2. They cannot tell you where any electronics are located and would therefore in all likelihood break the optic.
@brucecook502
@brucecook502 6 ай бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 oh damn, that sucks. Well anyways thanks for the response 🙂
@Jamie-pn2xj
@Jamie-pn2xj 3 жыл бұрын
I’d use a plate from C&H precision myself just my opinion that’s what I’m gonna do I just bought a hellcat. Would be nice if it were directly on the slide though. 🤙🏻
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
There weren't any plate options when I got mine but, as you know, the lower it sits the better the co-witness. So even now, I'd still lean towards the slide mod for that reason. You also probably saw too, C&H will mill it for you.
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 3 жыл бұрын
Did you go the plate route and if so, can you still use your irons?
@tyanunzio
@tyanunzio 2 ай бұрын
Is there really no optic that fits a non cut slide??
@GranTigerGaming
@GranTigerGaming 2 ай бұрын
There are many optics that fit without modifying, Vortex defender CCW is a great option, roughly $200 USD, direct mounts with no adapter, has full co-witness. Some other options are shield rmsc, and crimson trace 1550, but I think the vortex is better of these options. I like Holosun, its a bummer they use a "modified" footprint that ALMOST fits, I would prefer a 507k ACSS vulcan but I prefer direct mount without modifying, so the Vortex CCW is the best option I found.
@jackschnabel856
@jackschnabel856 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have a dremel but still want to do this, would I be able to use just the file for it? I know it would take a lot longer but is it still reasonably possible?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
The file I used would have taken *way* longer. I also would NOT use it on the lugs that need to be flush. The edges of the slide would end up getting scratched.
@jeffburch5903
@jeffburch5903 9 ай бұрын
This may be a stupid question, but here goes, why not mill the mrd instead?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 9 ай бұрын
I actually asked Holosun this before, I started. They gave me 2 answers. 1. You will break the waterproof seal. 2. Some electronics will likely get damaged if you cut into the optic. Obviously, I couldn't risk the success of an underwater mission because the optic on my Hellcat failed. 😉
@jeffburch5903
@jeffburch5903 9 ай бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 4 posts are better than 2. 1 or both of these manufacturers are assholes for not collaborating on a standard. All of them. Plates are crap. They all piss me me off. I'm not cutting up my gun. I refuse to use a plate.
@makerofmanythings8447
@makerofmanythings8447 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like you could use your rotary tool and just take a little bit out of the bottom of the 507K.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
I do know you'd break the waterproof seal do that. Holosun responded to one of my contact inquiries stating this was a primary reason for not having a "Hellcat native footprint" and the reiterated that the Shield is not waterproof and the 507k is. I assume the risk of damaging something electronic would also be high but don't know for sure.
@kevin86670
@kevin86670 Жыл бұрын
Did this on my xd osp for the 407k and the screws won’t work that come with it. One set to short and other set to long
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 Жыл бұрын
And the right size is nearly impossible to find. I spent WAY too much time rooting through all the bins at Ace Hardware :-) The best thing to do is find a nut that fits, put it on the longer screw so only a few threads show at the bottom and then cut it off and grind it smooth. Without the nut on there it's easy to take too much off or end up with an angle that won't let you thread it.
@kevin86670
@kevin86670 Жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 thanks for the info
@matthewblocher6315
@matthewblocher6315 11 ай бұрын
per Calculated Kinetics, right is 8.75mm, left is 10mm - they will sell you a set.
@JesseWalker-ti2qp
@JesseWalker-ti2qp Ай бұрын
@@matthewblocher6315I have questions regarding these numbers. Not saying there wrong what so ever. But how did you come up with the numbers.
@anthonyortiz4538
@anthonyortiz4538 Жыл бұрын
Hey bro what size screws did you use? I did this and now obviously the screws are too long
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 Жыл бұрын
My Holosun came with a set of short screws, but they don't anymore. Put a nut on your longer screws and grind them down a few threads.
@lilclm64
@lilclm64 3 жыл бұрын
What about the RMRcc would you recommend it over the swampfox?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
I'm partial to Holosun. I like having both the 32MOA circle/circle-dot and the 2MOA single dot. I also have Holosuns on other pistols and rifles so "standardization" weighed into my decision. If the Hellcat were my only pistol and didn't want to remove the slide lugs, and only wanted a single dot I'd lean towards the Swampfox.
@robluxuryvegas
@robluxuryvegas 3 жыл бұрын
Once you do this, Can you go back to a Shield optic ?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, you can go back. The difference is the 507K does not have recesses for the lugs; the Shield does. "Going back" would just mean the Shield is now only held by the front lugs and rear screws.
@edcaddict9538
@edcaddict9538 3 жыл бұрын
Did you have to grind dow the screws that can with the optic also????
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
I did not. However, if you have the X2 I'd probably take a little off.
@edcaddict9538
@edcaddict9538 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 gotcha. Thanks for hitting me back!!!!
@penname5050
@penname5050 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 What do you mean by X2?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@penname5050 X2 is the second/latest version of the 507k. X1 was what they called their first release.
@penname5050
@penname5050 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 So, if I got the X2 would I then need to file down the short screws if I did what you just taught me in the video?
@davidmoore5099
@davidmoore5099 2 жыл бұрын
Did this co witness after words? I want to do that but don’t want to do it if it it won’t co witness like the wasp will. But not a big fan of the wasp.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Cowitness is good.
@threebanger
@threebanger 2 жыл бұрын
What screws did you go with? My 507k screws are too long.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
My 507k was a gen1 and came with 2 sets. I used the shorter ones. If you gotta cut/grind your screws down use a nut so you can keep it straight and count the threads. GL.
@jevtec2286
@jevtec2286 2 жыл бұрын
My holosun 407k didnt cane with screws I dont know why. Can you let ne knoe what is the correct bolt tread pattern to instal the red dot ? I will apreciate the info thanks
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@jevtec2286 I *think* M4 torx 8mm but I'd check w Holosun to confirm.
@jevtec2286
@jevtec2286 2 жыл бұрын
Thak u SR m4 by 8mm you save me 50 bucks
@sandworminc.6941
@sandworminc.6941 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you just drill out the holes on the front of optic a bit, so it had better support rather than milling the slide.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
I actually asked Holsoun about this before I started. (1) It would for sure break the waterproof seal. (2) They also said the odds were high something electrical would be damaged if drilling into the optic.
@scoeybrabham2119
@scoeybrabham2119 2 жыл бұрын
Can I do this for the XDM Elite 10mm compact?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
The 507c (or others that same size) would be a better fit on that slide.
@scoeybrabham2119
@scoeybrabham2119 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 thanks
@jaredaymond5506
@jaredaymond5506 4 жыл бұрын
Any clue where to find a 407 or 507k right now?
@danielk0106
@danielk0106 4 жыл бұрын
Find a site and get on the Waiting list.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
They're starting to show up at local shops now.
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work! I would assume going this way your sights are still visible through the optic window?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. The cowitness is great.
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍@@jonmichael1974
@talonsearch5965
@talonsearch5965 3 жыл бұрын
Can you still co witness with your iron sights?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Co-witness is excellent. It's also a reason I chose to remove the lugs vs. attempting to buy or fashion a plate ... wanted it to sit as low as possible.
@caseycouch12
@caseycouch12 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 is there any real wiggle room to use an adapter plate and still co witness or is the optic sitting flush just barely getting you to the necessary level?
@blakechadwell239
@blakechadwell239 2 жыл бұрын
Are factory sights still usable?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Mike-cu6gk
@Mike-cu6gk 2 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity why didn’t you purchase the plate adapter?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
Two reasons: 1. There weren't any plate adapters available at the time (They came out after I made the video). 2. I wanted as much cowitness as possible with the factory sights. So even now I'd still take the same approach. In fact I just did with my 43x MOS / 507k. 😁
@Mike-cu6gk
@Mike-cu6gk 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 thank you for the reply. With the plate can you use the sights at all ? I’m asking because I don’t want to grind mine and then later on I can’t use a different red dot so I’m not busting chops or anything just wondering that’s all.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-cu6gk I've never used the plate on my Hellcat but ... I did it on my 43x. There wasn't enough cowitness for me, so I returned it and milled those lugs too. :-)
@DonHawkinsPhoto
@DonHawkinsPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
I saw on another video that at least one of the screws was a little too long so they milled it down so it wouldn’t interfere with that spring inside the slide. Did you do that? If not, do you know if the screw protrudes down too far into that space? Im wondering if you can see it with the back plate removed.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonHawkinsPhoto I have a gen 1 507k that came with a short and long set of screws. I did not have to cut the shorties down. With the new ones I think you're right b/c I had to do it for my 43x. Put a nut on the screws when you cut/file it down to get a straight cut. GL.
@gsj0810
@gsj0810 Жыл бұрын
I want to do mine as well...do you regret it?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 Жыл бұрын
Nope. Not even a little bit. Still holding zero. Factory sights cowitness. Got the no-plate footprint I wanted.
@gsj0810
@gsj0810 Жыл бұрын
I really want the co witness improved from my plate. Thanks for the how to because I will do mine this weekend
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 Жыл бұрын
@@gsj0810 you may have to trim down one of the screws. At the time mine came with a shorter set so I didn't have to. If you do, put a nut on it so it's even and you can control the # of threads you take off. I did the same thing on my 43x MOS and it worked well.
@gsj0810
@gsj0810 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I may have some that fit but prob not
@gsj0810
@gsj0810 Жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 I just finished and good call on the screws....I had to grind them down to fit. Thanks for the video!
@black79montecarlo123
@black79montecarlo123 3 жыл бұрын
So you used the factory fat screws?
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. There were 2 sizes that came with my 507k; used the smaller ones.
@zdw4914
@zdw4914 3 жыл бұрын
The screws that came with my 507k will not work help?
@black79montecarlo123
@black79montecarlo123 3 жыл бұрын
@@zdw4914 do like I did. Go to Home Depot or Lowe's and head to the fastener section and grab you a couple of cap screws. M4 - .7 x 10mm. I filed a little off the end just to be on the safe side. You can also just file down the screws that came with it. They are 12mm. I would shorten them by 3mm and add a tiny bit of blue Locktite to the first 3 threads then torque them down to wrist tight. Zeroed in fine, no movement and I've been carrying it for a little over a month. Zero is still spot on.
@joeberryhill06
@joeberryhill06 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jonathan so you've had no issues with your screws? Just wanted to double check I had the romeo Zero on there an I had to file the screws down a bit so they would fit. Just wanted to make sure I didn't need to modify the 507ks screws. I did get the 507k x2 I'd assume it comes with the same screws tho.
@black79montecarlo123
@black79montecarlo123 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeberryhill06 you will have to replace or file them down or they will hit the extractor spring. Unless they sent him shorter screws. Mine were 12mm. About 3mm too long.
@TXLorenzo
@TXLorenzo 2 жыл бұрын
Use a vise dude.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 Жыл бұрын
If I had one ...
@TXLorenzo
@TXLorenzo Жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 Harbor Freight, $19.97
@fazoodle7972
@fazoodle7972 Жыл бұрын
Why the F does this gun have these dumbass metal pieces lol I just bought the gun too
@captainamer71
@captainamer71 Жыл бұрын
To try and sell their own optics
@baconatordoom
@baconatordoom Жыл бұрын
​@captainamer71 The Hellcat has an RMSc footprint. The same as the Shield, Trijicon, Romeo, Swampfox, etc, and they all direct mount without a plate or modification. Springfield optics have the same footprint as the others. It's the Holosun that changed the footprint, not springfield. Holosun says it's for more room for the internal electronics so they could keep the side battery tray on such a small optic.
@danielk0106
@danielk0106 4 жыл бұрын
I'll stay with a SIG or Shield optic. I'm not tearing up my slide for anything.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 3 жыл бұрын
Check out SwampFox (if you haven't already). If I didn't already have Holosun's on other pistols and rifles, they'd have been my first choice.
@DKCUSTOMJEWELRY
@DKCUSTOMJEWELRY 2 жыл бұрын
IM A JEWELER AND HAVE BEEN IN METAL MANUFACTURING FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND I WORK WITH ROTARY TOOLS EVERY DAY ALL DAY AND YOU NEED TO HOLD THE DREMEL BITS HORIZONTALLLY FROM THE SIDE USING THE TIPS IS NOT THE CORRECT WAY AND NEVER START SO AGRESSIVE U WANT TO TAKE OFF A LITTLE AT A TIME TO MITIGATE IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE IF YOU NEED FURTHER TIPS LET ME KNOW I AM A GUNSMITH SO THIS KIND OF MADE ME CRINGE
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
Comments in all caps and run-on "sentences" make me cringe.
@robertflocco1445
@robertflocco1445 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 Well said, Michael!
@robertflocco1445
@robertflocco1445 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry...I meant... Well said, Jonathon!
@YouLookinAtMe-Bro
@YouLookinAtMe-Bro Жыл бұрын
​@@jonmichael1974And what he doesn't understand is... Those lugs are REAL close to the slide, and the bit would mar the slide if held horizontally. Great job bro! I did the same thing to my Shield Plus. I wasn't sure if it would rust, so I just dabbed a little black Rust-Oleum on the bare metal. Thanks for sharing. Liked and subbed.👍 Be safe!✌️
@KendrasEdge757
@KendrasEdge757 2 жыл бұрын
😂 OR buy a plate from C&H 🤷‍♂️
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
OR ... check the date this was posted. No plates existed at the time. :-) Further, any plate will reduce the cowitness % so it's still a great option. As of today, I'd either still take the same approach or hold out for a Holosun SCS direct fit.
@TheCubanGeneral
@TheCubanGeneral 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonmichael1974 I bought one and it arrived faulty. Loose af, light shining through so its not flush. FML now I gotta deal with customer service.
@jonmichael1974
@jonmichael1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCubanGeneral are Cuban soldiers issued Hellcat's or just the generals? 😁
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