At 10% lighter I can’t consider it a lightweight. I keep saying I’d rather have a different steel than going down in the scale department.
@ohioknifelover4 жыл бұрын
WhiteNewDeal I like both handle materials a lot but like just make it frn and use one steel liner or better yet a titanium liner
@ohioknifelover4 жыл бұрын
David Martin Portmann The Para 3 Lightweight is like that and I’ve never heard of anything going wrong so I dont see that happening
@antoinedoinell4 жыл бұрын
Nailed it. Personally think us consumers need to push the demand for better steels over handle material. It’s the heart and soul of the darn thing! I want better steel
@ohioknifelover4 жыл бұрын
David Martin Portmann I havent used any frn knife for hard use because I dont want to break it so no I dont have any experience with it!
@Johnny6414 жыл бұрын
@@antoinedoinell Better steels ?? you can get better steels if that is your priority, that being said I have multiple knives and never once when using a 8CR knife have I thought it performed any worse in the real world (your mileage may vary) If you are cutting cardboard all day (which seems to be the use case for a lot of the complaining) you are better off using a boxcutter.
@freedomvan29704 жыл бұрын
My first Spyderco was the sprint run Tenacious with blue G10. The build quality and action on it are amazing. It punches way above its class. Not sure if that is a sprint run thing or just the model in general, but I love that piece even among more expensive knives.
@christianhaykus4524 жыл бұрын
The tenacious was my first knife I bought for myself.
@factorsofjack4 жыл бұрын
I actually just bought a regular Tenacious yesterday. The price at Walmart dropped from 51.10 to 42.96, then I had a 25 dollar gift card so I got it for like 21 bucks. Its my first Spyderco and I haven't put it down. Been spidey flicking and hacking things up nonstop. It still shaves hair!!
@Johnny6414 жыл бұрын
I think the lightweight tag on this knife is a bit laughable, still has full steel liners and the same pocket clip. No problem with 8CR on the blade though, it does the job perfectly and I would bet a lot that complain about it wouldn't be able to tell the real-world difference between 8CR and a few other steels if there wasn't a steel stamp on the blade.
@mfreeman313 Жыл бұрын
Agree. If all you do is open a box now and then, do you really need S35VN? Especially if you can sharpen?
@patgervasio7044 Жыл бұрын
I have 8CR on a lot of my knives. Can’t tell the difference from so called better steels.
@johnharris73532 жыл бұрын
Mine's on the way. I really like that the edge goes all the way to the handle, plus I like the hole as a simple way to open, the blade shape and handle shape, plus overall size.
@justinbelcher36794 жыл бұрын
Really nice Spyderco but I'm just in love with those leaf shaped blades on the other Spyderco's
@pm13114 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Just bought this for 77$ CDN. I just got into knives, and EDC. Decided this was my first "getting it to it knife" love the look and suits my needs. Almost pulled the trigger on a para spyderco but couldnt justify 250$+ unless i REALLY like my tenacious.
@deving33704 жыл бұрын
Before spending outrageous prices on "better" Spyderco knives, try a Cold Steel. Lawman, Recon 1, Voyager or Ultimate Hunter. Also the new Airlite is probably great. Once you use a Triad lock, everything else will feel inferior, except maybe an axis lock.
@saxcobra8954 жыл бұрын
I've got a regular Tenacious I still carry from time to time that I still love, but I am thinking about getting one of these too.
@jeffcarter53804 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for this review. I was on the fence between this or the G10. Keep the reviews coming
@jonh40534 жыл бұрын
ive never owned one of these but the first thing that strikes me is the cutting edge to handle ratio is very nice....not a whole lot of spyders you can say that about
@lv4235 Жыл бұрын
True, the fingerchoil is always there, not a fan
@msharmall72984 жыл бұрын
I'll say it again, asking that price for those materials makes me okay with buying Ganzo stolen design versions. Both are made in China. What is the moral difference. None. Spyderco wants to ask ridiculous prices? Well no wonder people buy the clones.
@robertb.3651 Жыл бұрын
The fit and finish of the Ganzos can not compeat with Spyderco. I have a few Ganzos and it's just not the same quality level as the Tenacious....
@mfreeman313 Жыл бұрын
I've got a couple of the nicer Spydies and a while back I wanted something modest as a beater, basically, and got a (Byrd) Cara Cara. It impressed me so much as simply a solid folder that I figured it made sense to get and carry a Tenacious. For a variety of reasons I like more modest knives for EDC and daily use in the kitchen. I'm still refining my sharpening technique so I actually don't want some insane level of edge retention because I need the practice. Maybe that'll change down the road, especially in the kitchen, but for the moment I have no problem with 8Cr at all. Of course there are better steels, and if you want that in all your knives, great. For me it fits what I want in an EDC right now. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. 😄
@keats273 жыл бұрын
Thing with the FRN handles is that without stainless liners, they're definitely not all that--but this has pretty beefy stainless liners, plenty solid.
@kimmonshandtools68494 жыл бұрын
Spyderco definitely seems to do better than others with heat treatment of 8cr13mov. I really think in this price range they can introduce a better budget steel. I mean, I don’t like that spyderco is using the same steel I can get a knife in at autozone lol. That doesn’t say premium brand to me.
@rickkerans84854 жыл бұрын
I like the Tenacious would have preferred instead of FRN scales do BD1 or 14C28N. That small amount lighter doesn't make it a lightweight. Thanks for showing it.
@mikefiles20874 жыл бұрын
I agree 14c28n would have been a GREAT choice
@chrissexton66344 жыл бұрын
14c28n steel would be nice in this knife
@Abby_Normal_19694 жыл бұрын
$45 doesn't sound terrible until one considers the competition in the $40 - $60 price range with Civivis, Steel Wills, CJRBs, and etc.
@FrenchBalisongRyder4 жыл бұрын
I love spyderco for many reasons but they are in repeat mode, their knives are same again and again it’s for that why i prefer Benchmade, however spyderco is still a great company and their knives are very cool.. and the best in spyderco for me it’s the sharpmaker’invention
@davidphillips53104 жыл бұрын
VG10 and I would buy one
@Abby_Normal_19694 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I was even thinking BD1 - a little more budget than VG10. Their China plant already uses BD1 on a couple of their Bryds.
@gnomersy10874 жыл бұрын
I mean they also almost doubled the price of the Raven 2 which pushes it down in comparison by a lot imo. I really do agree that these don't feel like lightweight knives to me too, like sure frn is lighter than G10 so it's lighter technically and thus not false advertising but not lightweight.
@mattmass_music2 жыл бұрын
I just got the FRN version and I have an Elementum in G10 as well. G10 is nice but it’s not all that. I prefer the FRN feels more stable and grippy. Also if you keep wanting the Tenacious to have all these upgrades it won’t be an entry level knife. It will be close to the Para 2 or 3. And there is point in doing that. It’s a great knife for edc and using it for anything.
@Gloern244 жыл бұрын
i truly dont understand why anyone would buy a tenacious when you can get a cjrb with a better steel, g10, and a better action for less money.
@SliceyDicey4 жыл бұрын
Some people just really like the Spyderco designs. CJRB doesn't really have anything shaped like this at all.
@Gloern244 жыл бұрын
@@SliceyDicey yeah I get that. I just personally refuse to support overpriced 8cr stuff haha. To me it's worth the extra $ to get the polestar or the bd1 Byrd knife if you just have to have a Spyderco.
@hervue854 жыл бұрын
I do find the tenacious super comfy and ergo. Blade shape is also really nice. Really wish it's with more premium blade steel. Maybe soon spyderco will realize this is their glagship and release limited runs with upgraded blade steel. This knife has been around for quite some time.
@Gloern244 жыл бұрын
@@hervue85 get the polestar. Same blade shape as the tenacious and a much better steel for not alot more $
@dannyt67984 жыл бұрын
Wonderful shot of nostalgia! This one does look a whole lot nicer than the orig.. Thinking I might bite the bullet and buy an 8cr knife!
@TedOfNod4 жыл бұрын
Things Spyderco could have done to ACTUALLY make it lightweight: 1. Thinner blade stock 2. Thinner liners 3. Wire clip 4. Bigger opening-hole 5. Less liner material The first 3 would cost less, since they would use less steel. The last 2 could be done by adjusting the instructions on whatever machine they use to cut out the opening hole and the liners.
@macro8204 жыл бұрын
Tenacious is made in different factory than Alcyone knives I think and they aren't comfortable with foreign steels.. this is all iirc
@chaddamron38774 жыл бұрын
Centrofante 3 in comparison would be AWESOME- 🎉🎉💥🍺
@deving33704 жыл бұрын
I just ordered this in all black. I've always liked the Tenacious design. I have the Resilience and don't like the quality of the G10 so I never bought the Tenacious. I do like FRN though. 8cr13 is perfectly serviceable for me.
@deving33704 жыл бұрын
This would be the perfect design to eliminate the liners and give a back lock.
@ketodad3 жыл бұрын
Just subbed . You do good reviews , with no bs. and down to business. Thanks Brian and yeah , at least VG-10 or better S35 for that knife .
@SliceyDicey3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@markgoldstein62654 жыл бұрын
Only reason i may not try js my phobia of liner locks. Due to my misuse mainly . intriguing though may have to try again on them
@ivo69tube12 жыл бұрын
Good Point!
@johnkeck10254 жыл бұрын
I wish they did Sprint runs of the tenacious in different steels
@RN-ts2kq4 жыл бұрын
Maybe D2 and a deep wire clip, would’ve been awesome at $50
@BDSwaim4 жыл бұрын
Just call it tenacious frn
@mayscat444 жыл бұрын
Even at 25% lighter than the 5.1 it’s still kinda chunky. That being said, I still want one. My son has the regular Tenacious and I handle it whenever I get a chance. The Resilience is what got me into Spyderco’s to begin with. I found it on clearance at Walmart for $13 about 8 months ago. I’m now an addict and several hundred dollars poorer...
@SliceyDicey4 жыл бұрын
The G-10 is 4.1 oz. Not 5.1.
@bentsparkoutdoorsedc52504 жыл бұрын
Been wanting to try the lightweight, The G10 version is amazing.
@eddiecastellana93392 жыл бұрын
Love to try the S35vn model for just over $100
@dlby34 жыл бұрын
I had a chance to handle this knife today and the knife I had was very nice but the weight wasn't very lightweight. The action was nice but I already have a tenacious and there are so many new knives I want I think I'll press pass on this. Great video loved the edcc podcast you did🤘👊
@mjc77784 жыл бұрын
Maybe they should use your term of “fancy plastic” instead of FRN for marketing. Sometimes I really do like the grip of FRN for certain tasks. But upgrade the steel and get the name right. I would think a “Fancy Plastic Tenacious with BD1 or D2 or something better would sell well.
@mikecarroll2794 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that you see higher prices on knives that come in 8CR but less knives in that steel versus more knives in D2 coming in as low as $20 and M390 and 20CV coming in at around $150. Basically 8CR is more expensive now than a couple years ago and D2 and 20CV/M390 is becoming cheaper than it was a couple years ago. Meeting in the middle I guess.
@M60gunner19712 жыл бұрын
Makes no sense my wizard.
@DieYuppieScum914 жыл бұрын
Previously, the argument for keeping the Tenacious in 8Cr13Mov was avoiding cannibalizing their more expensive knives, with the BD1 Manix at $90. Now that the Manix has been upgraded to BD1N at $100 and the byrd line is upgrading to BD1, there's really no excuse to still be using 8Cr13Mov.
@Braindestructor4 жыл бұрын
looks alot better with those scales
@Killlerbee4 жыл бұрын
As a knife carrier my entire life (50+ years) and a new “collector”, I am questioning my aversion to Spyderco... is it the leaf shaped blade or the hole in it that says to my brain “this isn’t really a knife”. Please, I don’t need haters to respond to me. The fact that I’ve also moved from slip joint to folders seems to be a “growth” in my tastes. I also lean towards “budget knives” ($40-70) so my desire to own a Shaman, or PM2 which would appeal to me the most seems to be a dream. Bottom line is, I am willing to try a Tenacious to bridge the gap... wish me luck and always willing to hear constructive criticism.
@bert25304 жыл бұрын
Kevin Weller just try one, my story is much the same as yours and i finally bought my first Spyderco, a Tenacious, almost accidentally, over a year ago or so. And i love it, its solid as a rock, a bit big to my taste at first but such a useful blade. Since i got it, it has been my favourite EDC by far. Not for the looks but the action, the sturdy built, it just wants to work. Looking for a Para 3 LW right now, i guess 😉
@voidpunkprincess3 жыл бұрын
lifetime warranty between the tenacious and the raven makes a differences.
@javierortiz704 жыл бұрын
I picked up one of these as an impulse buy. I do agree that the FRN version feels better than the regular G10 version. The action is really smooth and the lockup is solid, but the blade goes way off centre when I switch the clip for tip up carry. I’ve tried to centre it, but it won’t work unless I place the clip back to the tip down configuration. Weird. Nice budget Spyderco, though.
@mountainmanwatchreviews80814 жыл бұрын
Man I hope they do a resilience lightweight.
@nicholascoulter37604 жыл бұрын
They halfway fixed it for me. All they had to do was switch to the wire clip and upgrade the steel. Basically anything better would have been appreciated more; D2, BD1, a Sandvik Steel. Even if they raised the price by $5 it would just be so much better.
@lenzielenski32764 жыл бұрын
Please, if they do switch steels, let it be to BD1N, not BD1.
@chademmons5641 Жыл бұрын
The tenacious is a gateway Spyderco,,so br prepared to want a para or another higher end Spyderco,, although the tenacious is a great do it all EDC,,your gonna want another,,and another,,it never ends,,so prepare ya checking account for those $150-$200 deductions,,you've been warned 😂
@LuisGonzalez-gl4wc4 жыл бұрын
Even 9CR steel would be better than 8CR. Seems to be pretty decent on the Civivi’s.
@patrickvanovermeeren45134 жыл бұрын
Nice scales! 👍👍
@evano83124 жыл бұрын
It’s just a Byrd but with the spideyhole instead
@mudrucker36564 жыл бұрын
I wanna see them make an upgraded tenacious with ctsbd1n and a compression lock
@chrissexton66344 жыл бұрын
Would cost as much as a manix though.. they make that in bd1 steel as well
@mudrucker36564 жыл бұрын
@@chrissexton6634 Don't like the manix personally
@lv4235 Жыл бұрын
Wish they made a slimmer version. Most Spyderco knives are so bloody broad
@preppinainteasy99654 жыл бұрын
what's the light weight para 3 weigh compared to g10? think its about the same the 8 cr will hold up as good if not better than the bd1
@andrewhaley89924 жыл бұрын
I need some help from anyone who has any advice. I took apart my tenacious, and have never been able to get it back right. Either it’s too tight, or the blade hitting the liners. I am no noob at taking apart knives, so thanks.
@antoinedoinell4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Haley keep trying till you get it right. Look at what side is hitting. Adjust spacers and liners accordingly. I always tighten my liners top to bottom then sides.
@justinhuffman19574 жыл бұрын
On my tenacious the two washers go on the frame lock side of the scales. Then always have to tighten it as I watch the blade to get it roughly centered!
@isaach604 жыл бұрын
i assume you cant switch the scales out?
@mortuus46014 жыл бұрын
Why all their knifes have that hole??
@frankod1004 жыл бұрын
Not light enough..should made 3 oz or so
@mbyard3564 жыл бұрын
Inconceivable!
@DB-qm4jx Жыл бұрын
are you from WI.?
@preppinainteasy99654 жыл бұрын
if u can sharpen the 8 cr cuts right with 30v ....mighty close go watch Alex /Outdoors55 is his channel but yes your sharpening skills matter....
@ronin36354 жыл бұрын
Which is better the Civivi baklash or the Tenacious? I'm thinking of getting one of these two.
@SliceyDicey4 жыл бұрын
I'd probably go Baklash.
@ronin36354 жыл бұрын
@@SliceyDicey Thanks, ok, how about the manix 2. Had my eyes on the manix and now the civivi. Of course it's hard to pass on the civivi because of the price
@mattpackk91034 жыл бұрын
They could've atleast given it a wire clip
@Biwic4 жыл бұрын
Spyderco is calling it the lightweight because it's .3oz lighter than the g10 version.
@willp9424 жыл бұрын
5.1oz to 3.8oz... 1.3oz difference isn't bad
@SliceyDicey4 жыл бұрын
The G10 is 4.1 oz, not 5.1.
@willp9424 жыл бұрын
@@SliceyDicey ah, thanks. 5.1oz sounded a bit hefty. Great vid!
@antoinedoinell4 жыл бұрын
Very funny spyderco haha a lightweight huh? Anything over 3 oz. should not be considered a lightweight imho. 🤷♂️
@Keith_the_knife_freak4 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@andrewbounds54974 жыл бұрын
9Cr18MoV!!
@SliceyDicey4 жыл бұрын
Seems like Civivi has a monopoly on that stuff in China. I said BD1, because it's another steel they already use.