Modern Classic Folders: Spyderco Tenacious vs Ontario RAT 1 | KnifeCenter Reviews

[@ozzlayer]

I own both, and I personally prefer the Rat 1.

[@sergior712]

I have the Tenacious. I love it! I was ready to buy a Rat 1 Desert handle in Aus-8, but for the same price, finally i decided for the Rat 2 in D2! What a beast!!

[@davidhannum5598]

I paid $23.95 @ Knife Center last year for my AUS8 RAT 1 and still cannot believe their is a better bang for the buck under $50.00...Thanks DCA, From DCH

[@richardvirchow3390]

I own a RAT 1 and I keep feeling drawn to the Tenacious. Great video - helped me decide to go ahead and get a Tenacious.

[@billpetit8270]

The Rat is half the price and twice as nice. It's a strong value.

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[@bentsparkoutdoorsedc5250]

Been wanting to get my hands on the RAT 1 for a while now. Awesome review!

[@night23fox]

Got my rat1 a few months ago and love it. Doesnt dissapoint

[@jimq]

I have a QSP Hawk, and it is SO fun to play with. Cant wait for my Tenacious (Green G-10 with Black Steel) to show up Friday, so I Can take it apart, clean and oil it, and get it broken in. I'm hoping I can get the action to be similar to what my old QSP Penguin had, since they are both on bronze washers.

[@tylerbarnes7628]

Love my Rat 2s. The D2 versions are still a great budget option. Okc all the way on this one.

[@bhgtree]

Two of the best budget knives ever, Get both!. For EDC they will last for years and are a nice contrast in style to swap around every week or so.

[@bluevorteck177]

Rat model 1 for me all day , I have 2 in black and OD green . I carry one everyday as my main edc , my son has the Spyderco and I tried it for carry and use , but the Rat feels better in my hands

[@tainemorgan8422]

I just ordered the spyderco in coyote brown with a black finish! In New Zealand, the spyderco tenacious is 129 dollars as opposed to 250$ plus paramilitary eg so that's why i chose it

[@fakeaccount9695]

Just ordered one of the D2 versions from KC can’t wait to get it in my pocket I’ve heard nothing but good things about it

[@night23fox]

Love my rat1 so far, been wanting a tenacious for a while now. This video confirms it. The 4 point clip option is a huge plus for me to LH carry on both

[@FredHenry1850]

I just purchased the RAT 1 as a gift to my uncle. He likes it. I, on the other hand, bought myself the ESEE Avispa.

[@mattakudesu]

The tenacious is one of spyderco's very few knives that actually is aesthetically pleasing to me, I might get one just to say I own a spyderco and satisfy that itch.

[@donv5557]

I know this is not popular opinion, but I’m not sold on Tenacious. I just got one as my entry into Spyderco club, but it just feels cheap. The Spydie has no snap, since it is real stiff. Contemplating selling it and then get a Para3 LW. On the other hand, my Rat2 D2 is great knife for the pocket rotation. It is a fun flipper with a great feel.

[@bert2530]

Maybe loosen the pivot? Use some good oil? My Tenacious blade really goes like a rocket.

[@donv5557]

Very Edgy a lot can happen in a couple days. I oiled the pivot and got it to move quite nicely now. Now it is fun to flick open. I’m now looking to buy a deep carry clip for it.

[@bert2530]

Don V on Amazon, screw4you, only in black. Not excellent finished, but it does the job better than the standard clip. Made my Tenacious one of my favourites.

[@victortan6378]

Considering tenacious as my first spyderco knife as well. Would you recommend it?

[@jackbrightside]

im literally holding both in my hands rn lol theyre my absolute favorite pocket knives. The tenacious is more of a light weight in comparison, I would trust the tenacious for edc, but the rat is definitely a work horse, If i could only have one id pick the rat, it just demolishes tasks, and is a great back up to a tactical fixed blade

[@orangekawi4319]

Being a massive Bob Dozier fan, I grew up on knives in D2. With the recent influx of inexpensive knives in D2 (some of them with decent heat treats) I am finding it hard to go after cheaper steels like Aus8 or the various Chinese stainless steels for knives in this price range anymore. I wish Spyderco would get onboard with D2 in their cheaper lines, I suspect that many current Tenacious, Resilience, and Persistence owners would snap one up in a heartbeat. At least Onario was smart enough to jump on the bandwagon already.

[@chrissexton6634]

There sales are great even people with nice expensive knifes will edc a rat 1 to not mess up a 300$ spyderco shaman.

[@TheTuneAce]

Originally I thought the tenacious didn't have liners. Good to know it does. Comparing the Rat 2 in D2 steel (top tier budget steel) vs tenacious, even considering that both have steel liners, the tenacious bites the dust. The R2D2 has better steel, weighs less, and costs less. If for some reason you have to have 3/8" more blade and the Spyderco look, I guess you'd be inclined to get the tenacious. I'd say an actual benefit of the tenacious is that it's commonly available at Walmart for like $43. The Spyderco look is easily accessible while you grocery shop. And since 8cr13mov is considered a solid mid tier budget steel with better corrosion resistance than D2, you won't be making a bad purchase. The R2D2 you're probably gonna have to get online. Black coatings (probably some kind of paint) is available to aid with corrosion resistance if you don't feel like cleaning your knife. There's a company out there that has a code for 15% off + free shipping that makes the total cost of the R2D2 just under $40. It truly is the gold standard of budget. I actually haven't tried to buy a rat 2 in Aus8, but it would be even cheaper

[@oddsavage]

Couldn't agree more, especially in regards to the R2-D2. I'd throw in the Ka-bar Dozier if you were looking for a $20 option, but yeah, your right on the money.

[@rhonda837]

tenacious and rat1 if comparing rat 2 go next size down in spyderco line.

[@brauss878]

Rat1D2 is my go-to for camping and hard tasks, love it!!! Ergos, flat grind, and the solidity of the whole knife transpire confidence to your hand.

[@roberttosa2560]

I have the Rat in D2 and Aus. Love them both a lot. Thanks for a great review.

[@jeffreyfinney6930]

I like both but my favorite one's to carry are my Spyderco effcient and see Zancudo in D2. I do have a rat 1 and still find myself taking it places.

[@hildolfrdraugadrottin7279]

I have the assisted opening Rat. It's a handy work knife. It's got super fast deployment and the scales have a lot of texture to keep your hand from slipping. It's a really great budget knife imo.

[@stevefoster443]

I love both the rats one and two but a good workhorse us the cold steel large voyager in the same price range as d2 vs aus 10 and 4 inch on voyager

[@SuperBanjo007]

I have RAT 1 & 2 and Tenacious. My ranking: 1. RAT 2 2. Tenacious 3. Rat 1,

[@proudtex]

RAT1 I have given away over 10 of them to folks that need their first pocket knife. I still have a few on hand for more influence...It's a great blade in D2. Yeah, I'm a knife guy! I hand out blades to folks I know that need something! The RAT1 D2 is my go to for that!

[@The66Leadfoot]

I can't get over the liner lock in the forefinger groove of the Spyderco.

[@bigsean2473]

the tenacious takes up more room its much wider than the rat, i dont mind the length on the rat cuz its narrow.

[@milehighac2738]

I’ve owned both. I just got a new tenacious, which is what I prefer.

[@hks956]

The rat came out of the box perfect. I mean perfect. Sharp. Centered and smooth. I have spent a lot more for less. It's just a great knife regardless of price.

[@rioboy2k]

Would be happy to see tenacious matched against avispa. Due to their variety you can match fairly even options as well as very special such as d2 against serrated black edge.

[@koga8100]

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[@kinglerxstbtpc]

Really like the Ontario. I just don't find the Spyderco thumb hole appealing or comfortable. Great review, honest on the strengths and weaknesses of each. Thanks again!!

[@CadillacDriver]

Rat all day. I have an orange Rat 1, it's almost unbeatable.

[@johnj6689]

Yeah but the heat treatment applied to the AUS-8 on the RAT's is only 55-56rc and that's a big contributing factor are cheaper. SOG, Cold Steel, and Ka-Bar aimed for 58-59rc on their AUS-8 but they did cost a little more. You get what you pay for.

[@knate44]

Unpopular opinion: rat 1 > tenacious, but the Byrd Raven 2 beats them both. Only drawback on the nylon washers, but BD1 is a pretty spicy budget stainless and it is slightly more ergonomic with the smooth G10 and less aggressive but still effective jimping.

[@jasonmiller9495]

The Spyderco tenacious is on sale at my local Walmart for 19.99 right now

[@pavlokaterynchuk2762]

I had both of them. Tenacious is still at home, Rat became a gift. The biggest flaw of Rat is that its bulky and heavy, 'cause there is no need for a folder with such thin and narrow liner lock to have such massive liners. Also, I used both knives in the forest for couple years, as a secondary, pocket knife, and I can say Aus 8 on rat isn't any better comparing that cheap chineese steel on Tin, although it's a bit more rusty to my opinion vs aus 8. So I understand why Ontario is popular (price/value), but I think there are lots of even better knives for this price. Peace!

[@serbiansauvage]

Pavlo Katerynchuk Which knives would you recommend over the Rat in the same price bracket?

[@pavlokaterynchuk2762]

Serbian Sauvage Hey there! I would recommend to take a look at Steel Will Cutjack (better steel, better overall quality and less weight against aus8 Rat1); Esse Avispa (same steel, but more robust construction due to another locking mechanism); Kershaw Chill (a bit smaller, but super compact and lightweight); Byrd Cara Cara (cheaper but not worse in any mean to my humble opinion); Fox Blackfox BF-705T (cheaper, a bit longer); Boker Plus Exkelimoor 1 (better steel).

[@anz2441]

Rat 1 D2 is the best edc value out there ! If you have LG hands the rat 1 fits lika glove.

[@toyotrustPR]

Great video. I will take both lol. Thanks.

[@rustyknifelover4463]

OKC RAT1 in D2 and Civivi Naja.

[@PerceptionVsReality333]

OKC RAT1 D2 all the way for me + it's $5 cheaper than the Tenacious.

[@jakehansen3418]

About 15 bucks cheaper now lol.

[@victortan6378]

Yeah. I think they should have compared r1d2 vs tenacious for the price they are talking about. D2 vs 8cr13mov and at a cheaper price. A no brainer for me.

[@PerceptionVsReality333]

@@jakehansen3418 I had forgotten about Spyderco raising the prices on their products to ridiculously high prices.

[@PerceptionVsReality333]

@@victortan6378 The Tenacious isn't worth it anymore, at $50-$55 you could get a Real Steel Terra which has a similar leaf shaped blade & in 14c28n Sandvik better steel.

[@nico-max]

Bonjour de France 🇫🇷 j’ai un tenacious depuis pas mal de temps et il est toujours top A salute ✌️

[@jakehansen3418]

Rat 1 wins for 3 reasons 1 price it's almost 15 bucks cheaper now. 2 blade shape the rat 1 has that drop point blade which imo is the best edc blade shape there is. 3 the rat 1 feels better in the hand it's feels more sturdy and more like a tool.

[@victortan6378]

And D2 steel for just abit more.

[@jakehansen3418]

@@victortan6378 the d2 steel version is 15 bucks cheaper lol the aus 8 is like 25 bucks cheaper.

[@christianhaykus452]

Both of them are great knives for the value. It all comes to personal preference.

[@mikeking6686]

1. We need a Tenacious X.L., 2. We need a premium materials Rat 1, thanks

[@knifecenter]

Larger Tenacious goes by a different name - the Resilience: kcoti.com/3j92Bod

[@mattarchey4436]

I have the rat 1 and tenacious. Deployment on the blade tenacious is a little easier and more comfortable with the spidey hole

[@solomonkane408]

Rat 1 d2 all day and I think it's cheaper than the tenacious . Beast of a knife

[@oddsavage]

Rat 1 in D2, without hesitation.

[@ColdBrewLobster]

Who pays $37 for a Rat I? All mine were Sub $25.

[@netrhyda8761]

David, have yourself a great weekend! And remember----never leave home without your SPARTAN. ;)

[@oddsavage]

I never leave home without a Trojan ...

[@Jam3s99]

RAT 1 with D2

[@The4cp]

I have both original Rat 1 and Original Tenacious. They are equal.

[@thevelointhevale1132]

I weighing these both up ... Spyderco Made in China just sealed the deal for me - Rat 1 all the way!

[@newhuskytwenty]

Yes, but I guess a Taiwan made one is better for you...

[@natek1993]

I think I'll take the Spyderco, which is crazy, because I really don't like the looks of any of their knives. This knife, the Manix 2, and the spydie chef are the only knives I like the look of.

[@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies]

Try the Steel Will Cutjack. You will not be disappointed.

[@danclarke8396]

Spider co by far, I was using the Rat 1 to tap something and the lock failed much to my surprise! Needless to say I lost all confidence in the Rat.

[@thewallcometh1444]

Rat + D2, hands down.

[@perplexingperceptions8888]

RAT1 with D2 all the way.

[@CopperRavenProductions]

The moment I heard made in china i lost interest. I do not care how identical it is in quality. The Rat King for me

[@teddyperkins3406]

both are foreign made. in fact, both are made not too far from each other. the RAT is made in Taiwan, while the Tenacious is made in China

[@disposablehero4911]

To me no contest; Rat all day.(biased Rat2 edc'er)

[@mrsmagik1680]

I love my rat 1 thinking of getting a rat 2 to replace my kershaw link I lost

[@TimpTim]

Rat 2 D 2 is still my favorite. You'll love it!

[@mrsmagik1680]

Tim Brickham I’m looking for a 3 inch folder with d2 and I love my rat 1 so gonna go ahead and get the rat 2

[@TimpTim]

@@mrsmagik1680 😁 Enjoy...mine just feels Right in hand.

[@knifeguy1387]

The Civivi Baklash and CJRB Centros are both better choices in this price range

[@victortan6378]

Baklash for me. But since ontario has d2 for the same price. Its abit hard to best that offer.

[@kendallstout3403]

Cold steel tuff lite

[@peterjanjanin9883]

You need to use Metric measurements when using the Ontario LoL!

[@bert2530]

Like my Rat, love my Tenacious.

[@omens_slays]

Tenacious sucks something fierce. Rat 1 blows it out of the water.

[@oscarmedina1597]

I bought the Rat 1 in D2 for myself and immediately gave it to one of my sons. It’s too big and heavy for its blade.

[@Yungtskt]

Rat2 is so much better. The size and weight feel much more right.

[@CadillacDriver]

@@Yungtskt you too 🤣🤣

[@oscarsalesgirl296]

thank you beedy eyed knife merchant.. but i just want to know what steel is better!

[@nutzy99ify]

Aus8 is closer to d2 than that crap cr mov8. Crkt lost me once they changed metals, that cr8mov is alot softer. Also your not gonna best the love that goes into Ontario knives.

[@The66Leadfoot]

AUS8 and 8cr13 both score 3/10 for edge retention. D2 scores 7/10. For only a few bucks more too.

[@artcianfanojr]

Rat 1 all the way.

[@dustinherrell9610]

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[@AdamAus85]

Aw wtf, I thought all OKC knives were US made. I got a Rat 1 incoming. Lame!

[@knifecenter]

They do their fixed blades in the US, but their folders are imported. -DCA

[@bartomiejbednarz778]

Rat is way too havy for edc knife. Great knife but...