Spygate! Rio Ferdinand, Joe Cole & Chris Sutton agree there's been an overreaction

Rio Ferdinand, Joe Cole and Chris Sutton reflect on the row surrounding Leeds United's 'spying' mission on Championship rivals Derby County.
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[@regfox2000]

They caught the 'observer' from Leeds because they could hear uncontrollable laughing in the bushes🤪

[@reece42069]

Kawaii_ :3 mot

[@kieran-5585]

Mot

[@CB-xr1eg]

@Darby Lemon But is it cheating? As these guys said, diving is cheating, trying to gain an advantage by falling over and pretending to be hurt is cheating. I'll agree it may be morally wrong but if it's not against any written rules it isn't cheating.

[@famouse6217]

ALAW MOT MOT MOT

[@soupz]

Marcelo Bielsa who’s laughing now lol

[@CCCoNeTiMe]

NOT sending a spy is disrespectful to the oppo.

[@j.m.s.5901]

ahahahahaa that´s it brother, spot on!

[@commandoazbo5266]

Leeds manager is a Legend.

[@randomdaveUK]

Massive overreaction, it happens all the time. Bielsa was just one who admitted it in front of the cameras. If people think staff aren't sent to watch opponent training sessions they're deluded.

[@rudilufc9997]

DaveL it’s because it’s Leeds if it was Man U or a Liverpool there will be no one saying nothing but because it’s Leeds the media gets involved!

[@zkrhmn]

The best part about this is that Lampard was visibly shook up by it, Bielsa was brazen about the fact that he couldn't care less.

[@tombarry6448]

2:21 Derby are 11 points behind Leeds so it can’t be true that there is a “Title Race”.

[@louispride7695]

And 7 points behind the blades

[@John-ov2hq]

Anything can happen in the Championship

[@ukler8]

Could have been 5 had they won

[@jameswallace6494]

Or one point ahead if they won the other game between the two sides. Point proven.

[@kyronhibbert6202]

@@jameswallace6494 or - 1 point if they played 3 times

[@gamingcenter360]

People need to get a grip and get real. Yeah it shouldn’t happen again but it doesn’t change the fact that Derby were completely outplayed by Leeds both times. If they use this as an excuse then that’s just pathetic.

[@discepted9569]

gamingcenter360 because derby can only shag sheep

[@garymckechnie1013]

My god he is such a bad interviewer .

[@nash3001]

No hes not?

[@NN-tl9mx]

@@nash3001 yes he is

[@maditeale4438]

Just remembered Jake is a Norwich fan.and they're 4 points behind us

[@charlierichards7339]

That's probably why he disagrees with the others tbh

[@maditeale4438]

@@charlierichards7339 exactly. Absolutely hammering Bielsa. He's gutted Leeds are going up

[@jorged06]

Oh, the horror! Poor England! The moral reserve of the world...... Come on...

[@LiamK2292]

He came to watch a training session, I don’t get what the problem is.

[@VVIIFINEST]

Hiding in bushes? With binoculars and camo gear on....

[@dylanjacklufc6546]

5007Finest but that didn’t happen? Police said he was stood on the footpath with plain clothes n binoculars, hardly hiding in a bush. It was public property

[@isaacmahon4415]

5007Finest except he was stood on a public pathway in regular clothes and the police took no further action and it is not a direct violation of any FA rules

[@VVIIFINEST]

That was one man they caught. The other guy was named John Cena or something they didn't see/catch.

[@yurties1725]

"it's not morally right" Sanchez is on more than 275k a week nd has played well only once on the piano for the United Ad. "Morally right" died years ago in football.

[@saulward1537]

very true there are billionaires pumping money into clubs buying success and players earning millions whilst rolling around on the floor looking for free kicks and penalties yet this is seen as unethical what a joke

[@flowen_music]

That is literally so irrelevant to this situation lollllll

[@TheLastAngryMan01]

It’s not really the same thing though, is it? As bloated as Premier League salaries are, they are based on an agreement between player and club, and if anyone should be profiting out of the billions made, it’s the players. Spying on opposition teams is something different.

[@superpantman]

I thought teams always spied on the opponents??

[@CB-xr1eg]

They do and have done for many years. Peter Taylor used to go spying for Cloughie wearing a cloth cap and sunglasses.

[@eldio2124]

Love Leeds, hopefully the great bielsa gets them back to where they belong in the premier league.

[@jzilla1234]

Or 7th

[@tombardsley3081]

@Stehuntimari - that's not how football works. It doesn't matter how big your fanbase or stadium is when the on field play is rubbish. Until this year, they haven't deserved to be in the premier league for the last 15 years due to their terrible management. They've nearly gone bust more times than promotions in that time

[@tombardsley3081]

@Tom Paganhandle it doesn't matter what club I support when I'm stating facts. Would rather see more teams like Bournemouth , Brighton and wolves in the premier league than Leeds

[@Vayanovic]

Tom Paganhandle hahahaha

[@flowen_music]

Tom Paganhandle good result today hahahahahhaa

[@LUFCalex]

doesnt half make me laugh that the main reason this has been blown way out of proportion is because its leeds and they're so disliked throughout the country, if a smaller team like say wigan/hull/brentford did it then this would have got about 5 minutes tv time as opposed to nearly 5 days.

[@MattinhoGG]

Chelsea did it under Mourinho (while Fat Frank was playing for them, he didn't seem to mind then). Villas-Boas used to go himself to watch other teams train when he was working under Jose, sometimes even wearing disguises... No one ever kicked up a fuss about them doing it, it wasn't a national football scandal. Plus there are so many conflicting stories on the Derby side of the things. I've heard they stopped for 2mins then carried on, heard they didn't find out until after training was done, heard they called an early end to the session etc. Seems the FA want to find any reason they can to punish Leeds Utd. I'm starting to form the opinion that they're in the referee's ear given we've only won 1 penalty in like 70 games (and had 2 stonewall spot kicks turned down against Derby). It's getting beyond a joke now.

[@stephencooper5155]

Leeds are a sleeping giant mate. I don't know anyone that wouldn't have them back in the premier league next season.

[@pepespliff8980]

It's not the team they dislike it's the fans they hate worst fans in football I would say

[@LUFCalex]

SPLlFF * each to their own int it, imo its cause originally leeds were hated because of how dirty at times (and successful) they were with revie, since then its just escalated, lots of people nowadays grow up hating leeds just because its the norm to do it, so many teams fans in england consider to be rivals with leeds

[@BobbyDB]

There’s so much more wrong with football, why is this made into such a big deal

[@nathanmaguire8966]

Because everyone hates Leeds and it makes a good story for the media (Leeds fan)

[@BobbyDB]

Nathan Maguire I’m a Leeds fan too mate and I know, it’s ridiculous

[@CB-xr1eg]

@@BobbyDB I'm a Leeds fan too. All this fuss just because it was Leeds Utd.

[@charliejeal7199]

Oh yeah because everyone makes a fuss over any championship team lol

[@omarcabreramedina4682]

Bielsas translator in the briefing did a bad job conveying some of his words. Bielsas main idea that he tried to communicate was that he doesn't need to send a spy he showed all the work he has put in, he has an analysis of every team, every player from that team since last season, that saying he wins because of the spy is not consequential. That he does it to keep his anxiety levels low before the match.(he is that obsessed with his work)

[@kaiBigpunisher]

Jake Humphrey is a bloody awful host

[@sheslying7117]

I think he's really good, he's just surrounded by clowns

[@stephencooper5155]

His job is to make sure every bloke at home who cares is having his opinion spoken out loud by a pundit. When the pundits all agree he has to dig out a contrary opinion or the show just becomes a circle jerk and people stop watching. Thats why Owen, Savage etc all get a gig on TV.

[@harisfamilparol7940]

Thats his job to get talking

[@ginganinja2872]

@@stephencooper5155 Exactly. He's playing the devils advocate here. If he didn't the pundits wouldn't explain their points to the detail they did here.

[@flowen_music]

He ain’t bad tbf

[@jamievince6413]

Chris Sutton don’t give a toss

[@liambrady2473]

Jake was dying for them to take a different stance, fair play to the others for going against the grain and not just bottling it

[@CB-xr1eg]

But Rio almost changed his mind near the end. Typical of that Judas.

[@AANDYist]

Be drones next lol

[@ImranKhan-iu5sg]

There was a situation im the bundesliga using drones www.goal.com/en-gb/news/werder-bremen-admit-flying-drone-over-hoffenheim-training/1inqgchutoy2n1f32xhwej02do

[@isaacmahon4415]

Derby used a drone last season🤣

[@thesegundovolante]

Nigel Pearson did this while he was at Derby 😂

[@kmc7876]

Probably being usednow

[@lfcspectre4335]

#Spygate where they come up with these name's??

[@VVIIFINEST]

Pizzagate

[@eivom1]

Never forget Lasagna Gate

[@hmoham]

Watergate happened almost 50 years ago and we've had to live with every little controversy having Gate stuck at the end of it ever since.

[@ricky100593]

From America. Spygate was already a thing in the NFL

[@Kwamya10]

Americans

[@Jdn19]

Jake is such a bellend

[@stephenhodgson3506]

There's a reason top teams build their training grounds the way they do. With areas out of sight of the general public and prying eyes. Lampard spent most of his playing days in such an environment at both Chelsea and Man City so he knows what is going on. To say he doesn't believe that Chelsea spied when the people who did it are on public record as doing it, is just hypocrisy. As Jo Cole said it happens all the time in the States and Lampard played in the States. So to my mind he is a liar. Lampard tried to gain an advantage by bringing it up just before the game, he now claims it happened before the reverse fixture so why didn't he say something then? He tried to play mind games and unsettle Leeds and it backfired big time. But now he has to save face by saying he won't make further comments but then makes comments when asked again. I would hope that if Leeds are called to a hearing they would bring up the fact that Derby in the past have used drones to spy on other teams training and why aren't they been questioned.

[@BobbyDB]

“Title race”😂

[@rudilufc9997]

Bobby Bancroft hahaha

[@sonpacho]

Are teams not allowed to watch old game footage of opponents either? Is that morally wrong too?

[@markhaigh4020]

Spying or no spying over the 2 games I watched leeds were far better than derby, they never gave them a second on the ball and there is not many teams that do that home and away against derby

[@gringopablo]

Then... close the doors!!! haha. In Argentina not every team or coach does it. First, it's a big territory and expensive to send people every week to the rival's cities. Second, the coachs knows it better because of the press or inner rival filtration, than of a scout in the rival training pitch. Third, most coachs have 1 o 2 special days where trainings are at "closed doors sessions", nobody, not even the press or second auxiliars are allowed. There are security guards too. So, my advice... CLOSE THE DOORS!!!

[@thomrik]

Cheating without breaking a rule is kinda weird...

[@TimBee100]

It's alright to take one for the team by trying to pull down or trip a player who is going in on a breakaway but not this? Get your morals sorted.

[@tashrif46]

The usual overreaction to everything and making things worse. A normal day in the British press and their thirst for drama. But honestly Bielsa has gone to Spain, France, Italy and nowhere did he have this issue. So why are we making such big things about here in England?

[@billyrattlesticks6949]

Chris Sutton is spot on here, diving is FAR more serious and yet the EFL and FA just sit back and ignore it. This "Spygate" thing is a joke, had this guy have been tresspassing on Derby's property then by all means, sanction the guy and the club but the fact is, he wasn't, the police took no further action because no offense had been committed, so why is there such a hoo ha over it? Derby wouldn't have beaten Leeds in any of the 2 games they played this season no matter what they did, the gulf in class was so vast in both games any tiny tactical advantage wouldn't have made one iota of difference.

[@bevbo42]

Everyone is missing the point, look at all Bielsa's analysis, does anyone really think that watching 1 training session made any difference to anything. I'm so fed up of hearing about this. It's only because it's Leeds that it's newsworthy, if it was Peterborough, Hull, Rotherham, Preston or the like it'd have been a case of here today, gone tomorrow.

[@davidchantler6452]

If it’s not in the rule book there is no punishment needed, at the end of the day it was an open training session for derby didn’t exactly force his way in

[@stevebell7565]

The police have said the man was politely asked to move on. He was on public land, had no pliers (fat Frank PUBLICALLY announced that he was carrying them) and was committing no crime. Fat Frank, that's called slander....MOT ..forever

[@noobplay1770]

Hate how media are trying to force a change of opinion out joe cole here!

[@sirius1807]

when gather information, scouting have the definiton, then spying is a criminal word then?

[@pratapmishra5278]

Meanwhile Real Madrid livestreaming there whole training on KZbin.

[@chrisbradley1192]

Rio: "I'm doing your job." ....... and doing it much better as well.

[@inextremis7406]

It did work ! It was 90 minutes of intense football + two goals. Poor derby didn’t have an answer

[@Sdea1903]

Docking Leeds points, give me a break. Leeds beat Derby twice because they are a better team, end of.

[@regfox2000]

⚽️💙💛Marcelo Bielsa💛💙⚽️

[@danielf771]

It’s okay today as long as u don’t get caught

[@alexjohnson5711]

(My Club) Leeds, the first club to get punished for doing nothing wrong.

[@nssportstv7231]

Imagine this Frank Lampard as Chelsea's manager Thierry Henry as Arsenal's manager and Rio Ferdinand as Manchester United manager

[@powerllesss2672]

Frank is Chelsea manager now

[@thesegundovolante]

I hope the FA make us play Derby again so we can smash their back doors in once again

[@soupz]

Rhys Durkin hahahahahahahashah

[@judedixontennis8535]

@@soupz who's laughing now

[@jjmarz1001]

The English talking about what's morally right. Hahahahahaha....

[@ekremgokhan5070]

In europe they talk about open training and closed training...

[@scottlamberton9587]

I'm surprised Chris Sutton didn't somehow manage to bring Celtic into the conversation !! 😂🤣

[@alhoppy]

Nothing wrong with it.... It’s because it’s Leeds and they’re actually doing well again plain and simple.... From a Man United fan as well by the way....

[@elgar104]

Someone should ask Lampard whether he's ever sent staff to watch other teams training..... and have him strapped to a lie detector.....

[@zailanayub8051]

Its not cheating is it? Diving's worse..... -Chris Sutton

[@CB-xr1eg]

I don't usually agree with Sutton but I'll make an exception on this occasion. he was spot on.

[@youtubebram4393]

Give over, it's not a big deal! It's just like watching their last few games wtf it's pathetic how some people in the media are acting about it for clout!!!

[@JimmyClose]

Look at how this all worked out 😂🤫 🏆🏆🏆

[@MrMooemoney]

They said same thing about diving...here in Britain we dont dive and now English players are the biggest divers and now its ok "everybody do it"

[@rudilufc9997]

it’s because it’s Leeds if it was Man U or a Liverpool there will be no one saying nothing but because it’s Leeds the media gets involved!

[@anthtan]

Isn’t it safe to assume that everybody does it, and the moral outrage is trotted our only when someone gets caught? Come on...

[@davidnewell7183]

Get over it there's nothing wrong with it

[@doonersdomains]

We All Love Leeds

[@cbourke7437]

Jake Humphries salty because he's a Norwich fan.

[@michaelscott7166]

I'm a Norwich fan and I thought it was a non story. If anything it was Derby's own stupid fault for having a training facility that's easy to spy on. It's not like this scout from Leeds broke in or anything.

[@jameswilted]

The host is begging that someone agrees with him that it’s cheating, but nobody will budge 😅

[@bilalsiddiqui2177]

Such bullshit, why can't Derby just get better security 🤦‍♂️🤔

[@seanypthemc]

No interest in hearing what Rio has to say on football issues anymore. The guy has lost all credibility. I am, on the other hand, interested in his tips on how to commit adultery - something he is clearly an expert on.

[@kalevi7821]

Oh this is an "overreaction" but Salah getting pulled or kicked down in the penalty area is not. LMAO Gotta love this narrative.

[@randomdaveUK]

This is an overreaction. Salah was impeded, no overreaction. Pretty plain.

[@reinspec1537]

He wasn't hiding in bushes. He was on a public footpath looking through a fence. Derby should plant some friggin trees or put up some tarps so folk can't see in ffs!

[@caleblindley7142]

NEWS FLASH. A bloke went for a walk, on a public footpath , and looked over a hedge, with NO cutters. Maybe Derby County should have points deducted for disrupting Leeds, and the whole footballing nation. Also why is it taking so long for the FA and the EFL so long to decide. Bielsa has said everything they need to know, in great detail, but we still all wait. Maybe becuaue their's nothing to investigage, because Bielsa's done nowt wrong.

[@Hanif6706]

There should be no punishment at all even if he does it again moralls arent a requirement just as being a good sportsman isnt a must

[@W3LLcoOL]

The whole thing has been blown out of proportion its honestly pathetic. Bielsa and the guy sent there to observe could easily have denied it but instead he came straight out and admitted it, no doubt the EFL will try and "set an example" and punish leeds but if its anything more than a fine and a warning I'll just be gobsmacked.

[@dannybdjb5852]

Leeds are being investigated. Lol there trying to find a way to punish us. It's an absolute joke

[@CB-xr1eg]

Like your English. " they're ".

[@georgemacpherson1992]

22 Derby County fans don’t like this video. It’s all got to do with that Chelsea knobhead Frank Lampard. He doesn’t much. We don’t care about Lampard let alone Derby. They are like that because they have always been in Leeds’s shadow.

[@waldy187]

“Macht is niks, maar door wat je weet ken je niet verrast worden” - Willem Holleeder

[@garethburch2735]

Okay, he Spied. So what?

[@wasimh2104]

What is wrong with what hes doing? There is nothing illegal

[@david88t]

The true is real, lie is simple and easy.

[@refreshious]

Oh god, when Jake thinks other countries should behave the same.

[@MrRRSODL]

It even happens at the world cup every 4 years... if he does it again then OK, he should be punished. Same thing with players coming here and asking the ref to show a card to opposition players, they don't understand that it's not part of the game here.

[@noelmurphy6071]

I bet the other 22 clubs are a bit insulted that they never saw him bothering to spy on them...Lampard should shut up and take it as a compliment.

[@ajtct98]

Lampards and Derby are just annoyed that they didn't think to do it.

[@mylesfoster9960]

Yes

[@KotakMeister]

Leedss' only mistake was getting caught.

[@vinnyhowe2060]

Overreaction? Just a little. If derby win, water under the bridge. Lampard is a very bad loser, think i saw tears in his post match interview. Bless.

[@ps5stuffguy]

No doubt Ferguson did it

[@bravochamp9495]

Wonder what they think about tactical foul. I saw burnley coach in an interview blaming his players for not foulting on son heung min s wondergoal. Stoping a certain goal by intentionally kicking someones leg seems more unethical but noones crying about it.

[@milankengur7216]

Soon the managers won’t be allowed tvs to watch other teams play

[@marcusclark5330]

Agree with ferdinand 100 per cent

[@facomori3110]

owen, lampard and the host with the typical false morality of british

[@SwimShady_Reef]

We’re Leeds united we spy where we want !

[@tommydarko1984]

Why does the table look like a Crayola Crayon box? Because Chris Sutton is there.

[@abhouston1]

Someone throw lankey threw that window.

[@georgedolman444]

Wenger used to do it all the time

[@Dessienewshoes]

Marching on together

[@maxphillips62]

That presenter is thick

[@garrybastow1930]

Derby was much better in training.

[@zigzag4189]

Of course jake would say that he Norwich! 🕵🏻‍♂️😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@iliketowatchvideos47]

M O T at least everyone is talking about the mighty leeds

[@derekciwell4733]

Can’t see the problem any good coach would alter the set up if the game wasn’t going as planned , just derby being bad losers again

[@ayyub823]

Mind games👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@YoungMulaBaby808]

if this was any other club, it wouldn’t have got this much attention. all the Championship clubs hate Leeds and I know Leeds like that Soooo

[@Nathanstimenplace]

Joe Cole...

[@paulcook7611]

EFL are a disgrace , he didn’t NOTHING wrong !!!